all right ladies and gentlemen um so
glad to see you on uh
this september 28th meeting our last um
meeting in september
[Music]
here mr klingler here ms lamke here mr
markham
here ms robinson here assad
here mr sharpe
to the flag of the united states of
america and to the republic for which it
stands one a nation under god
indivisible with liberty and justice for
all
yes thank you so we are delighted to
welcome back after a two-long hiatus
mr darris blackford
the president and ceo of the columbus
marathon i'm not sure i've made that up
sorry darris
who is here
to regale us with our uh what what is
typically an annual update on uh the
marathon coming through our
amazing awesome
city thank you you did promote me i'm
just the race director but it's still
still a pretty big job so yeah actually
uh this is my 11th time before council
so some of you i've uh
some of you i haven't met or i have met
last year i didn't i didn't come but uh
11 out of 12 years so
um
the marathon columbus marathon has been
coming through bexley for this will be
our 41st year coming through uh the city
this is uh the event is on october 17th
which is this is my first time being
here in september usually i'm here in
october
and
basically we have been blessed to um
have a partnership with nationwide
children's hospital since 2012 we've
raised more than 10 million dollars for
the hospital
and uh
in large part because the community of
bexley grandview heights upper arlington
allow us to uh to to borrow your streets
for a little bit bexley has the uh
wonderful distinction i think on your
behalf that we're out of your
neighborhood by about 9 15 in the
morning so most residents many residents
don't know we come
but i also
we really feel feel honored to have the
opportunity to come here
i personally do the door
hangers i did them yesterday on uh
throughout the course sections in bexley
and i want to share a story of one of
your residents
where marathoning and politics collide
so i i was going up to a door and i
don't i don't knock i'm actually i go in
the morning uh because i really
don't want anybody to get uh to bother
anyone and as i'm going to a door the
door opens and a resident of drexel
avenue who i'm not going to share this
part
says to opens the door and she says what
is this
and i say oh i'm sorry it's it's just a
flyer with information about the
columbus marathon
and she looks at me and says oh i
thought it was about the sewers
i fully support the columbus marathon
so
yeah so needless to say uh i i got out
of there uh pretty easy but uh whoever
whoever is in charge of this sort of
project uh may need to watch out so
but no sir
seriously um
we're just
we're really honored to have the
opportunity to come through uh bexley
every year and and it's just a highlight
for the for the athletes i mean
you know you do a wonderful thing you'll
make the leaves change here in just a
few weeks and uh you know
it's um
we'll have great weather and but in all
honesty just thank you so much i i have
no no agenda except just to say uh
thanks and see if anybody has any
questions or uh anything at all that uh
might come up
thank you for hanging up all those door
hangers for all of us thank you
you're welcome
we all know what that's like so we
appreciate it
actually
are you are is this
is this year are we doing the mile chan
is the mild champions is that what it's
called yes so so uh since we partnered
with the hospital since 2012 we have one
of the patients uh every every mile on
the course is uh
in honor of one of the patients from the
hospital they're not a current patient
but they're they're someone who've been
uh supportive and helped by the hospital
so the um i don't have the list uh but
there will be two champions mile four
and mile five in bexley that um
uh
you know i mean the the family comes out
and and it's just it's a great it's a
great time um so they'll be i believe
one is typically located right at the
apron there or columbus school for girls
uh or in that general area and then the
one on the one probably mile five is is
not on it may be on maine down by kroger
a little bit past
uh across the across the creek
so all right but thank you again if
there's anything the mayor knows how to
get a hold of me so so he'll uh keep me
posted but thanks everybody i really
appreciate it thank you thanks
um
we are having um
one of my absolute favorite main events
this week
the tower
a celebration of
uh
metropolitan club so i'll be back
tomorrow and i'm excited about that
and um
some of us will be participating in uh
voters so those of you who want to come
and attend attendance here are all the
candidates from board and auditor
and city council
and
our great city approved will be sharing
information about uh
thank you um so a couple things first of
all it turns out i needed to be out of
town at the last minute for work
tomorrow thursday night so jim wilson
will be doing the five-minute
presentation
he has also spearheaded a pack that is
supporting uh the um
supporting the five issues apparently
there's 50 signs they've ordered to be
divvied up and some a flyer to pass out
so that's great um give them a lot of
credit the um other thing i just wanna
the president of fibel asked me you know
so there have been a bunch of emails
going around and so president fivel
asked me to speak for a minute about
some of these first amendment issues
that have arisen in emails um and so you
know a couple of things and i know we've
had conversations about this more than
once but first of all
the um
again just so folks know is that there
is no legal obligation for city council
or any legislative body to allow for
public comment i'm not saying you
shouldn't i'm just telling you that that
is not a legal requirement
but once a
a body such as city council
decides to allow public comment you need
to be consistent in how it's applied
irrespective of the message
so
the fact that a particular group
believes and maybe rightfully so has a
very important message about race in
bexley and wants to be invited as a
public
as a as a guest as opposed to speaking
during public comment if if that is
allowed then other groups then
for the most part
there's some exceptions but that for the
most part you will not need to allow
other groups who make such a request
have equal participation on a whole host
of issues because the first amendment
says essentially we can't tell people
they can or cannot speak based on the
content of their speech so the fact that
one group comes because they have an
important message
doesn't necessarily mean that that's the
only message you're going to be able to
hear and again that applies in
and council does this appropriately and
applies that standard in its public
comments at the beginning and the end of
the meeting that folks can talk about
anything they want for up to five
minutes
but the minute that people are now
invited to make a powerpoint
presentation on a particular topic of
interest i shouldn't say of interest of
a political or quasi-political topic
means that the door is now open for
others to do the same and it's really
hard to close that door once it's open
so again it's been my i have shared this
with you via email but i'm going to say
it here for whoever wants to hear it to
hear it is that is that it has been my
recommendation that
in this particular situation brayer is
not the type of group who needs to be
invited to
a speak as a special guest and put on a
powerpoint presentation
similarly to many other examples i can
think of where those groups would not be
appropriate
or necessary to be allowed to come to
city council and speak again my concern
is that once you do it for one you got
to do it for many not necessarily all
but for many so that's in a nutshell
what i've tried to explain via email the
past couple of weeks
mark just a point of clarification you
just said not be allowed to speak i
believe that any group can come speak at
public comments the the the only
discretion you're just distinguishing
between a special guest yes public
comment thank you let me make that clear
any group can come and speak during
public comment period
and subject to the rule public comment
rules and any individual can as well my
point was if it wasn't clear i apologize
that being coming as a special guest
being allowed to do a powerpoint
presentation and essentially be being
given unlimited time if if council
chooses to allow a particular group with
a particular message um then the first
amendment is going to make it hard to
close that door to other groups who
would be expect to be allowed to come
during as a special guest and do their
full presentation and as i've said many
times before
and i've said a lot this past week
these meetings are business meetings
they're not town forums now again you
have and rightfully so a loud
massive amount in my experience of
opportunities for public comment um at
the beginning the end of the meeting and
during ordinances but again
my my biggest concern is that the rules
need to be enforced con with a co on a
content neutral basis
i probably said way more than i needed
to there
well we are grateful for that so thank
you so much uh ms lamke has a question
for you mr fisher
mark i just wanted to ask if you could
confirm that uh the required mailing for
the proposed charter amendments went out
to uh registered bexley voters
as contemplated for in our charter i
think so on natalie
and it'll also be published no actually
i'm glad you brought that up i was wrong
before the charter says mailed to every
elect elector or published
so
bill caught that i i actually caught it
before that but i still was was wrong
initially so i apologize but it is going
to be again it is going to be uh in the
in the um
the blast the water bill yeah
we felt that the
that
sending it to every elector was the
safest best coverage
a lot of people don't get the dispatch
or necessarily turn to the section of
the dispatch where you would read the
language so
uh just seemed like a much better way to
get notification out
anybody else have a question for our
city attorney
all right then i'm going to go ahead and
move on to administrative updates
is mr bayshore around
i'm madam president um i have my written
report report attached and i do not have
anything to add to it tonight
thanks andy does anybody else have
anything
to afghani it looks like miss massage
has been handed up andy we just talked
about it in the budget meeting but the
planters on livingston look amazing so
thanks for getting those installed it
really adds to that corridor and uh
it's a great feel coming into bexley
with those
i also want to say congrats on the
vernon project it's completed
[Laughter]
and um
wanted to just ask really quickly your
matt was talking about the street lining
on drexel i live right off there so i'm
on drexel every day four or five times a
day
um
i know we had a pretty big repair
near csg i'm assuming we're going to be
fixing that street
here as soon as we can get to that i
know
that there was one area that um
received a little bit more
um
work
so um
just running through there and on the
golf cart through there it looks like uh
the community could benefit from
getting to that sooner than later with
for a little further repair
because it's a lot of high traffic
and then just wanted to ask you the 300
trees
that we have going out where are those
going in bexley
those are in every uh section
spread out um
we actually didn't do a tree planting
project last year so that's why we're
doing 300 usually we do 140-150
and we're doing 300 this year to make up
from four last year but it's spread out
through the whole city
i did get one of those trees this week
in front of my house so thank you
thanks
keep up the great work looks like mr
clink
question also
uh yeah thanks andy for um all that you
guys do just a review of the new street
sweeper how's it going
the guys are extremely happy um it's
been a news pretty much every day since
we've had it it's working really well
looks really fancy i love it while
you're on that i want to thank you andy
i was i was driving uh downtown today
and i noticed our our ramps were very
pristine and i assume that was our
sweeper because i didn't see any other
evidence of odot doing any sweeping so
thank you
that was our sweeper you're welcome
all right you did the service guys
thanks so much andy
take care have a good rest
all right moving on to the police
department chief reinhardt are you there
the chief is out of the office today
so i can answer any questions the best
of my ability might have or
refer them on for future answers
anybody for the good mayor stepping into
the shoes of the chief
nope all right
michael price
and the recreation and parks update
sorry about that thank you madam
president uh i have nothing to add to my
written report
okay we talked about budget for the rec
department and i'm thinking that mike
price needs some new chairs in his
office
he does that on purpose
yes for these meetings i pull the worst
chair i can into the office just so you
guys
every year of budget season he pulls
that chair
next meeting you might see a hole in the
wall behind me as well so
i'm sorry i saw that last week and i
almost said it last week and i couldn't
help myself this
could you move that chair next time this
isn't my first budget process
[Laughter]
anybody have any any questions or
comments for um mr price
all right mike hey have a good week
take care
as well
all right we are to the finance
department updates and our good auditor
mr harvey uh you see the august report
um as several of you have alluded to we
have
lots of money
it keeps rolling in we've got another
seven hundred thousand dollars that i
don't think see even in this budget that
we're getting from from the whatever
they call that newest federal money
um but we're looking we're in we're in
good financial shape we're going to end
up the year with
you know
i would guess at least a million dollars
over budget
um the
tax revenue looks like it's coming in
correctly
and positively
so
keeping our fingers crossed
happy to answer any questions if anybody
has any but any questions for uh mr
harvey
all right it's called the american
rescue plan that's the latest friend of
federal fund he knew that he just
couldn't remember
i liked the way he said it
it was good um all right
i have uh
sort of a wordy update i noticed i did a
very thanks bill did a bad job taking
pictures this uh
this past couple weeks but um i wanted
to draw attention coming up on the 13th
at 6 30 is our livingston avenue work
public workshop our next public works
with our second public workshop
it will be occurring actually at the
auditorium of christ the king school you
guys recall we had a we had a
candidate's night there or something oh
yeah four years ago didn't we years ago
so it's that it's that space um which we
figured was really spacious would handle
you know people uh coming and going and
would be a good way to to hold it on
livingston so
that's where it will be and at that
meeting you can expect to see some early
concepts for short and long term
improvements to monique's point
um
so please please do participate if you
get the chance
um to do so
also uh
our trick-or-treat is on the 28th of
october
um
so that's thursday evening the same as
other local communities it's just
something to keep in mind
um
you know it was difficult to sit through
the the the meeting earlier and hear all
the talk about the senior center because
i wanted to announce this evening that
we did receive a grant from the bexley
community foundation to provide
wait hold on wait for it
provide i believe it's forty thousand
dollars for furnishing a interim
uh space here at the former art with
anna for the next couple years at 420
north cassidy for a senior slash
youth center so
yeah now we're going to clap
foundation
so um
this is the letter of intent uh where
we're asking for it but you know it's
it's interesting uh although the concept
is still under development we said
the concepts to create a usable space
for senior citizens with occasional
intentionally programmed use by other
segments of the population including
middle school and high school-aged
children
so our rec department is is is jamming
on this and we are all buzzed to see
what we can do uh to take the space
what we're viewing this as
um
with uh you know with with sincerity
because we understand once we open up an
idea like this we can't really walk back
from it too easily right so we
understand that this is a commitment of
sorts but what we're reviewing this as
is essentially our fees if a component
of a feasibility study so we have about
a 2 000 square foot space
um
it's uh it's roughly the size of what we
had pictured we would be building out
over at the historical society cottage
when we first started talking about this
so in in experiencing a space like this
with little cost and by the way the
community foundation money will be used
for
everything that will be put in there
will be able to be put in some other
space it's not going to be
uh fixtures that are permanent to that
space so it's going to be furniture it's
going to be equipment it's going to be
things that can be adapted into another
space
but the idea is we'll get a feel for is
this you know it's just like when you
move into your house for the first time
all of a sudden you realize oh i didn't
realize i didn't realize that until i
moved it so it's a space of good size
what would be missing and so it'll
really provide really
valuable information about
how that might work you know if it's the
right size if it's if it's being used as
much as it could be used and so um i
know that our senior coordinator is
active right now and helping steer this
and
um and we've been having lots of great
meetings think about it so thank you to
the community foundation for funding
that um we think we're going to be able
to do this with our existing feasibility
funding but we'll know more as we get
into the budget process and i hear
everything you guys all said so
good news is i just thought you might
mention that so i started working on it
a couple weeks ago before uh before that
meeting
um
this is the letter that is going out to
all of our residents signed by your your
own william harvey
with all the charter language so that
that will go out in time for our
deadline is technically
october 1st or 2nd but this will go out
uh in before that so can i just clarify
again ben said what i've said a million
times residents it's actually just just
for clarification it's going collectors
all the folks who voted in the last in
last year's election as reported by the
board of elections so some households
might get two
right last to last municipal election is
it our last job
the 2020 election right last year which
was last year
time flies it's 21.
it's either the last year's election or
the one in 2000 can we all just get
along but anyway the um the so some
households might get two and some might
get none if they didn't vote last time
or whatever right just fyi
um
speaking of which totally kind of
unrelated but we just got certification
from the ohio secretary of state good
news we are still a city
based upon the census
thank you yup all right that's good but
we're our population is 13
900 and something as of the census so we
are really edging up
to that 14 000 number that i've been
telling people for years is where we
actually are at 600 more right
um
we are going to be sending out a uh
so the border control me met last week
about our electric electrical
aggregation
and we decided that our next step would
be to send out a survey to the community
to just gauge the interest given some of
the dynamics we've been talking about so
that survey we are rushing to get it
into our water bill
our water bill
um so that we can get
mail mail back responses from people we
think that will help us reach people
that wouldn't necessarily be on the
blast
um
and i'm going to skip real quickly to
that
so i think we're going to you know we'll
start to see them in the next couple
weeks we're also going to send them
electronic on the blast we're going to
have separate results from our paper
ballot or survey and and from our
electronic survey just to see what that
looks like
uh
speaking of which paperless billing is
coming to our water bill uh i believe
that system is ready for this current
water bill that's about to come out
so people will be able to residents will
opt out of receiving a paper bill and i
want to give credit to the auditor who
has been dogged in his determination to
pursue that so
thank you for pushing that project along
he's been working with our water
department and our i.t manager
in conjunction with that change
counter-intuitively
we will be now distributing our
newsletter separately from the water
bill and the reason we decided to do
that is
we consistently hear communication from
people that say we never know what's
going on in the city and and it doesn't
quite make sense because you know every
water bill has those key pieces of
information and the next thing we hear
is oh the water bill i like pay it and
throw it away so they don't look at it
so
we think this is a good time for us to
separate the newsletter from the water
bill it's gonna it's gonna go out in a
form that's sort of similar to what the
library sends out with their programming
uh material we would already move to
that kind of fold out newsletter the
past couple times have you guys seen
that
to try to get more information and have
it easier to read so we'll be using that
new form but separately mailed and that
will mail to apartment residential
addresses as well which our water bill
does not so that's a another advantage
of that
um
project taillight i think i mentioned to
you guys we we have been pursuing
columbus to see if we could join in on
their project taillight initiative their
initiative in theory is where a if
somebody was pulled over with an
equipment violation
um
an officer could refer them to a free
resources income dependent potentially
free resource to help repair that issue
looking at our equipment violations
ninety percent of equipment violations
are warnings not citations investigate
often those citations are coupled with
something else that's going on
um but
we in talking to columbus they have not
gotten to the point where they're doing
officer referrals they're doing they're
they're doing like open workshops with
the community but they're not doing
something where somebody gets pulled
over and they can get referred on to so
they think it's gonna be a while before
they're there so we're working on
developing our own program and that's
something that you can expect to see
in the budget as well next year and i
just wanted to give you guys that update
and monique has her hand raised
will there also be maybe referrals from
mayor's court whether it's the
magistrate or prosecutor public defender
so that
people who actually do get cited for
that are aware of what project taillight
could could do to help them
absolutely i mean and in theory they
would have already received that
information at the time of the
interaction because i i would primarily
like it to be
leave that officer interaction with a
positive
you know follow up but yeah that's
that's something that certainly will
make sure marriage reports aware of
um and finally uh youth interaction
working group update we are we're full
of surveys right now we're also be
sending a survey that the group has
created
uh via the blast via our newsletter and
mailing surveys to residential apartment
units
so that'll
help
us index police interaction and inform
the working groups
process
and that is my update
and opened any questions any further
questions for mr mayor
all right and with your permission
council i'm going to move on to the
consent agenda mr
the attorney all right we have three
items on the consent agenda agenda
september 14 2021 city council meeting
minutes ordinance 35-21 to enter
into an agreement with odot for urban
paving project along u.s 40 including
resurfacing and partial pavement repair
along with other associated work in
accordance with preliminary
participatory legislation rc
5521.01 introduced by mr markham and
resolution
11-21 confirming the mayor's appointment
of rachel lang to the civil service
commission that was introduced by ms
lamke
all right thank you
are there any questions um or concerns
from council about the consent agenda
any comments or concerns from those who
are joining us this evening
can i have a motion on consent agenda
please motion to pass
consent agenda thank you mr klingler
second second
second
thank you ms robinson um
ms robinson
yes mr assad yes mrs
yes mr klingler yes ms lamke yes mr
marco yes
thank you
we do have a we do have one uh ordinance
um with the visiting presenter um
mr uh
the attorney okay so this is the second
reading of ordinance 39-21
to amend the bed and breakfast at 519
south drexel avenue in the city of
bexley ohio that was introduced by ms
saad
[Music]
yes so um as we had our first reading at
the last meeting and um we
were read the ordinance here with the
bed and breakfast
at 519 south drexel
and the consideration of capital
university entering into the contract to
purchase the bed and breakfast
so if there are not further questions on
this currently i would love to
ask that our presenter from capital
who's here tonight
come and speak
on the ordinance we can hear from them
and it looks like mike and leslie are
here in the audience too who currently
are the owners of the bed and bexley bed
and breakfast so thanks for coming
tonight
great well thank you mr mayor council
members thank you for having me i'm bill
may i'm vice president for business and
finance at capital um we were presented
with this opportunity shill straub gave
me a email and said hey i think there's
a great thing you can do
this would be a great addition to kaplan
university and we agree david kaufman
our president and i talked about it we
went and toured the property it is
beautiful as most people know
and we thought this be a great
additional tour you know we have been
obviously
community members for
you know our life basically and we
thought this is an additional
opportunity to involve ourselves in the
community quite frankly it's it's a
well-established well-respected business
and
we would like to you know be part of it
as they're moving on we would like to
take that over
uh we as the ordinance
we worked with the mayor and council on
was
we would have a full-time employee
living in there running it
we would not be housing
students there we would be running it
exactly as it is today it would be for
visitors to the city visitors to capital
visitors to the columbus area whoever we
can get to be there we would run it
exactly the way it is right now we would
and actually our students have developed
previously a marketing plan uh for for
them
uh and we would like to continue
involving our students in
the understanding of the business again
we would have the employee running it
but we would like to have them
understand what it takes to run
effectively a like a small business
participate in it we would like them to
help run the the website for it help do
the marketing work associated with it it
would be an opportunity to
you know put themselves around a small
business and see how it is
um and you know again it would be we
think it's just a perfect opportunity
for us to be involved our organizational
sustainability committee meeting met uh
met today they approved it it goes to
the board of trustees to be approved uh
tomorrow so at this point
we would like to continue moving forward
would obviously uh in talking to the
mayor we would need this ordinance
passed to allow for that certainly and
we would ask for your approval
thank you
council does anyone have any questions
um i just had a quick question regarding
capital and the programs that you offer
when you're um i love that you're going
to engage students into the bed and
breakfast concept and let them run this
business model do you have a hotel
management program at capital we do not
okay now in fact um
columbus state has you know a
hospitality type program we thought that
would be a part an area that we could
reach out to too
one of the things i want to do too is
continue the relationships
that mike and leslie have done within
the community here so
if there's a group that they're sourcing
the food from in the morning we'd like
to continue with that and
keep those relationships moving and such
so
no we don't have that program but we do
have a school of management and
leadership and that would probably be
the group that would most likely be to
be involved and our students are all you
know i think even some of our students
help without some of the housekeeping
right now too
there you go thank you sure
i love that you're trying to keep it um
the way the current owners
did it their their hearts and souls i
know went into
creating that and it will
forever to me be
theirs even though it is gonna
potentially be capitals i look at it and
i think of how hard they worked on it so
there's no reason to fix something that
ain't broke
i like to hear that
counsel anything else for
nope great well thank you so much for
sharing your thoughts with us we really
appreciate it
all right
council anybody have anything else to
add
all right with your permission we'll
move on to third reading
okay we have a third reading of
ordinance 36-21 to establish the america
the american rescue plan act fund and to
appropriate 1 million
twenty dollars 442
ten forty twenty two dollars and ten
cents from the arpa fund mr markham yes
as mr harvey had mentioned previously
this is uh
the money distributed dust from that uh
american rescue plan act
uh and uh just establishes the uh fund
for our city deposit that money in and
then of course uh in the coming months
year we'll be uh talking about how we
want to utilize that money
all right does anybody have yes
question please miss lamke
my questions actually for for bill bill
can you remind us generally what the
timeline might be that we would
receive these funds and any other care
zach money that we might
have on the horizon
we we have already received half of this
700 and some thousand we expect to
receive and we might have actually even
received the other part but in the next
you know
weeks
not months we'll get the rest and
what we have not yet received is a lot
of guidance on
what that can be used for but we
anticipate that pretty soon
unless you've seen something else
it's i mean they've
they have fairly it's broad right right
right that's fair to say uh and there's
there seem to be pretty decent guidance
coming out at this point but uh it's
you know it's it's what everything
carries that covered
plus infrastructure needs specifically
sewer and water infrastructure needs not
not paving paving is not mentioned
in broadband
so currently that money's sitting in
bill harvey's personal account we need
to get this actually set up
actually with with the 540 million
dollars in the lottery tomorrow night
i've already invest a little bit of that
in that lottery fund oh good
so i hope to have good news for you at
our next one
let us know are there any questions or
comments from council before i asked mr
markham to
if he's ready to make a motion on this
any comments or questions from uh those
of us joining us
mr markham uh this time i move that we
adopt ordinance
36-21 there's a first is there a second
second there's a second from mr klingler
is your uh city auditor
yes mossad yes mr markham yes islamic
yes mr klingler yes ms robinson yes
all right if we could let's move on to
second readings all right so we have a
second reading of ordinance 37-21
accepting the donation of a recreation
easement consisting of two sites
0.981 acres and 1.471 acres respectively
adjacent to and west of sheridan avenue
to the city of bexley mr klingler
thanks mark this is the second reading
of this ordinance
i don't think i need to read it again
does anyone have any questions regarding
this
is vader are there any um
any public comment slips um for any of
the rest of the ordinances
no okay i just was making sure so that i
don't have to continue that you know to
keep asking
um any questions on ordinance 3721
all right moving on please uh is this a
possibility for consent agenda uh
i don't object to it being on consent
agenda mr klingler yes yes please okay
we add that to consent agenda
usually bill harvey's on that but
i gotcha
okay second reading of resolution 1221
it's to accept tax amounts and
rates as determined by the budget
commission and authorizing the necessary
tax levies and certifying them to the
county auditor mr markham this is
probably a good consent agenda item as
well
any questions about this this is our
standard tax amounts and rates these are
given to us and we
certify them
questions
everybody okay with this being on the
consent agenda
all right
resolution 13 21 please all right oops
okay resolute second reading of
resolution 1321 to adopt the 2021
recommendations of the bexley tax
incentive review council regarding tax
abated properties in the city of bexley
mr markham so we talked about this last
time
and now we have
mr kessler has thoughtfully attached the
extra information and hopefully
you may have had a chance to look over
these
if not
you will probably want to do that before
we
vote on it
any questions about
these properties
their uses
the
decision
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making process that goes into
all right
no questions is it okay if we move on
ordinance 38 21 please all right
again
second reading ordinance 38-21 to amend
chapter 13 12 30 i'm sorry to amend
chapter 12 30.42
impervious cover definition and chapter
12 30.49 lot coverage overall definition
in order to specify the treatment of
article artificial turf as impervious
cover for purposes of lot coverage
calculations ms sod thank you mr fishel
so this basically just helps define
um artificial turf as an impervious
condition
and then it also gives
then it applies
that you would have a only a certain
amount of artificial turf via the
coverage calculations
so we're defining artificial turf as
impervious
and we are keeping uh
our residential space from having
artificial turf
all over where everywhere
although adam saad and troy markham may
want that green space for their golfing
but um this helps define and also
put coverage calculations in place
that's what this ordinance does
any questions counsel
matt
just the
statement artificial turf is presumed to
be impervious cover unless otherwise
proven by engineering specifications to
satisfy the runoff coefficient
requirement above
is that meant to say that if i hire an
engineering firm that proves otherwise i
can bring that to
our
building department and it could be
granted as a
variance or
right there bold it says unless
otherwise proven
so so um
it wouldn't be a variance it would it
would be administered through our
building department so if the uh
installer is able to prove that the
artificial turf meets the runoff
specifications then it would not be
viewed as impervious cover how
ever
and that's a good question because i
think we need to tease this out a little
bit more
however
it does say
impervious cover surfaces including
artificial turf
uh are part of lot coverage overall
so
and i have to refresh my memory because
i wasn't uh
i wasn't in the zone just now on this
but when we did this i think there are
other applications of impervious cover
in our code
and so
i don't think you get out of having
artificial turf be part of lot coverage
no matter what
but i think there are situations where
having artificial turf
not be called impervious cover
can be helpful for you and i can dig a
little deeper into that does that make
sense
okay couldn't you just say including
applicable artificial turf or
so designated
yeah artificial such designated
artificial turf well i think the intent
was
as drafted and the council can modify
this intent for sure i think the intent
was that artificial turf does not
perform the same way as
organic you know plant plants
so um
even if it does have decent runoff
characteristics it's still not absorbing
you know it's still not helping with the
stormwater issue so that's the argument
behind it including it regardless but
what this is opening the door to is if
someone has the resources and the will
they could possibly
include an artificial turf that still
does not
create
that sort of stressful uh runoff uh
situation as long as they could prove it
to uh
that's true for impervious cover
um that wouldn't
still wouldn't be uh
plant material
yeah right i like plants i'm just saying
but but isn't what
is more likely to happen that
nobody's going to hire an engineer
somebody's going to develop something
that is more right impervious is less
part of their specification and that'll
be a part of the spec when you buy that
yeah
so oh i'm sorry so this leaves it open
it would be like mulch or some other
other
cover that's not impervious
and create versions of that i'm on a lot
of turf different grades of turf for
different athletics and it is constantly
there's investments in improving it but
i think that this ordinance currently
with the language leaves it
open to exactly what you just said
that as improvements are made
improved
mr official is dying to say something no
i i just thought you were done and there
was a more a pause and i didn't mean to
interrupt but i do have i do have want
to follow up on this because i want to
make sure that we're talking through it
and understanding it or that i'm
understanding at least so under 1230.49
basically
12 30 49 is 0.49 is listing out and this
is a question not a statement
is it intended to list out
what is lot coverage i mean
what what what is the purpose of 1230.49
so
the purpose of that is to
i think limit the amount of artificial
turf that would be on a property so i'll
go ahead i'm sorry essentially it
includes artificial turf regardless of
whether or not it meets the engineering
specs for the stormwater design manual
as a lot coverage
as part of the law coverage
calculation so there's a limit to how
much lot coverage you can have from
um
all of these things combined including
artificial turf so the intent is that
even if somebody goes gets that
engineering
specification to prove that it it
satisfies the runoff coefficient
requirement it still
is included
it's still included as all impervious
surfaces under
1230.49 is that the intention that was
the intent because i think otherwise
would have say including artificial turf
um other than that that qualifies under
12 yeah other than that right exactly
right but so then what's the purpose or
what's the benefit to a homeowner of
going to the trouble of and again they
prob most people won't but what's the
purpose of going to the trouble of
getting engineering specifications to
satisfy the runoff coefficient
requirement so
there are other areas of our code that
where impervious cover comes to play one
of them is our riparian setback along
alum creek
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where you have to
you have to limit the amount of
impervious material you have so you
there are some okay very niche
applications where having that
language and impervious cover
would make sense and has nothing to do
with a lot of coverage ratio okay that's
what i wanted to make sure so it's this
language has specific meaning so people
don't view it as contradictory in fact i
have a real life example of that if i if
i may entertain you so there is a
putting green
right next to the creek
uh
in a on a residential home in bexley
within our riparian setback
if that individual wish to install it
might be artificial turf i have no idea
wish to install artificial turf in lieu
of grass they would have to
it would have to be uh not impervious
cover in that instance and then this
definition would come to play regardless
of law coverage
but even if it
even if it was engineered to not be
impervious
1230.49 would come into play in terms of
that lot the ratio for the ratio yeah
let's say they have ample amount yeah
that could totally do with a lot of
coverage ratio but then perviousness
matters okay so this is really doing two
very different things really with the
artificial turf
i don't mean to say vary by making that
seem but it is those are two really
distinct things there's a third thing it
does
which is the front yard
yes right section three yes and what i'm
sorry what how does that read again
that reads that
no artificial no matter what
yep okay
further questions on turf
where do not just weeds
oh never mind
ask troy
all right artificial at noxus if it's
okay with everyone we'll move on to our
first reading coordinates 40 21 please
all right first reading of ordnance
40-21 to specify overtime paid
provisions for city employees who were
community events events on july 4th 2021
september 5th 2021 mr markham yes mr
mayor want to uh go and describe the
circumstances that lead us to introduce
this ordinance
so we had um
an exceptional need for employees both
at our fourth of july and at our labor
day block party event just due to
um
the for the fourth of july we had a lot
of extra safety considerations and then
for the labor day block party event
um it was just a lot more setup than
typical
and it required because of the nature of
our
staffing and where it is today it
required the use of staff that is
overtime exempt
otherwise
so essentially they were in
those dates and not getting compensated
for those dates so
while
some of those employees sometimes do
that from time to time this required a
lot more all hands on deck situation
and uh
we felt it appropriate to provide for
uh those employees the ability to
gain over time from that that that those
those two events
and then with the labor day block party
uh you'll notice it says double time for
hours worked um
both of these are real kill joys they
don't apply to me that's that didn't
apply to me no matter what but uh anyway
um the double time is is labor day block
party was on the sunday
uh wasn't technically on
labor day itself but
you know it's labor day weekend
that particular event also
many employers were working past
midnight
while they are eligible for double time
for those sections after midnight we
just felt like it was appropriate to
provide double time for the sunday work
and then there were people that came out
on monday as well i mean
yeah
talk to him that is true
jen
um do we have an idea about what the
cost will be that's a fantastic question
thanks um
i will get that for you that would be
awesome yeah
i have it somewhere but it's not in my
fingertips
yeah we know
i just didn't want it
um marker or bend the 262 o2 c3b is that
ohio revised code or is that a bexley
statute that would give us the
applicable rates
do you know what that is
well two 260 2.0 whatever that you just
read it's double time it's bexley yeah
and it just means that it's july 4th so
they're paid double time
it's it's they're saying over time
worked on a holiday in that section
which normally applies which does apply
to the non-exempt employees employees
who are subject to the fair labor
standards act so this is just including
them
my second question is depending on what
the monetary
total is if we pass this
um do we want to keep in mind as to
whether would it actually be cheaper to
add
a regular part-time or full-time
staff to parks and rec and other
departments rather than paying overtime
to current existing employees if we
think the need's going to continue
it's a great question i i don't
so in the instance of the fourth of july
like any one given employee added to our
roles wouldn't have helped that much we
needed 12 employees to to man to person
sorry they get the gates
um which they did quite competently and
it was very it was critical to what we
did so
i also think it was unusual i don't
hopefully we do not have the gate
control that we had at fourth of july
this year in the future so that was an
unusual condition
it's probably immaterial this is cares
act eligible expense but nonetheless i
think it's important we're smart with
our dollars and we're conscientious of
them but to answer your question having
another employee would not really have
made a meaningful difference would have
ended up costing us a lot more money
elsewhere if we didn't otherwise need
them
and the cost is not i mean again
whenever you get the numbers is not
going to be close to even a part-time
employee salary and and just so council
knows we tried really hard
to get volunteers to fill those
positions
and ps nobody wanted to be away from
their families on the fourth of july and
so guess what these people were a lot of
them were away from their families in
the morning
for the fourth of july doing the race
and then they were away from their
families again in the evening so
i mean i tried really hard to get
volunteers i personally had a sign up
genius out and it just didn't and and
beyond that i think what we found as we
really started thinking through it is
like some of what we're asking people to
do was a little bit more required some
training and authority
we ultimately ended up using for example
private security for the perimeter and
we used um our own employees for the
gates just because we knew that and
there's a physical aspect too in
addition to the training yeah i mean you
know
it's it's more than just sit down and
check off
something with a pencil you needed some
people who are qualified to do the work
right but we'll get you the costs so we
have a dollar figure scissors that's
a very fair and predictable point should
have had it in hand my apologies
mr marple
do you anticipate though that we would
need to do something have some sort of
provision for labor day next year and
future labor day as well then would this
be an ongoing need right
um
something i'd like to talk to mike about
okay and just
think through that a little bit more
any further questions about this one
i just wanted to thank the mayor for
exempting himself from this thank you
but the charter exempts me already i'm
just making sure section one section
super clear because i made so much over
time for those two days
so i assume city council members who
work the labor day yeah you guys get
over devil time for that you get double
times for sure
yeah
we all would have just banked some over
time they're from one to ten
okay
uh
everybody okay to move forward
i do i want a presentation
ordinates 41 21 please
ordinance 40 sec first reading of
ordinance 41 21 accepting the proposed
donation
of the columbia place private street in
the columbia place subdivision by the
city of bexley for a public street ms
assad thank you mr fishel so um
we go ahead and pull up the ordinance
this is basically um to kind of
summarize this columbia place
i'm sure everybody here on council is
familiar with that unique
area right behind city hall right off
brighton extension
and uh those streets are private they
were zoned that way
i'm curious to know what year do we know
ben
70s someone said the thirties day i said
no i think it was 70's or maybe 80's
right because
so um
private uh
streets that they are looking to
donate now to the city of bexley which
would make it public streets
and us as council basically what that
means is um
the legislation before us we can accept
the donation with the deed
which is laid out here as well
people can give government land
but government has to accept it so that
is what council will uh make the
decision on we get to decide what we own
and what we do not so this is just a
great reminder of the small
example here tonight of what this means
with that being private at one time in
the 70s and now they're donating it and
it would be public so
um i think this is laid out pretty
nicely catherine cunningham our zoning
attorney laid out the plot and the
replot
and
we're looking at some of that right now
um
and then the auditor's map of columbia
place is that what we're looking at
right now yes
is on here
so
with that i would just leave it up to
council
who may have questions
on this um
donation
so when it's donated we are then
responsible for it
which means we although i believe we've
been plowing the streets
anyway correct
we have over time i know as i was
service partners sometimes we did
sometimes
well it would require that
we're now responsible for
um sewers were also responsible now for
the street maintenance and we're now
responsible for leave collection i would
assume sidewalks and sidewalks no i
don't know that there are sidewalks
there
yeah and actually can i do a little
history like a little bit absolutely a
little background on this so a few years
ago
a coalition of residents on columbia
place approached me um and our service
stretcher at the time about
columbia police um they were surprised
to learn that it's a it's a privately
held street they were not aware of that
now that's on them bill and i just
talked about this recently
they're uh
apparently every single one of the
homeowners on that street had a terrible
title agent i'm not sure how that
happened but
they all were part party to a
essentially home a defunct homeowners
association that was not meeting
and they learned about it when they
tax assessment on a piece of property
was not being paid and the franklin
county auditor tried to foreclose on the
hoa
and i'm i'm i might some of my terms
might not be quite right but essentially
that's that's kind of what happened so
uh residents approached uh us with a
request that
the city take over the maintenance of
columbia place now over the years like
bill said we've had questions from
residents saying why aren't you planning
our streets i've had to say well
it's your street to plow you have to
figure that out and again
they had no hoa so they had no way to
figure that out so we have helped plow
their streets
we have done leaf pickup from time to
time
and the residents asked a question which
was i think a fair one which is we're
paying the same street levy as everybody
else
why are we not having our streets
maintained
and i said to them
i
i for one thing i knew there was no
street levy back in the 70s whenever
this is part of a pud
and i felt that it was worth asking
council the question
of whether or not
the city would be willing to take
ownership of the private street
as i've thought through this over the
years because by the way this is three
or four years ago was the first contact
and then
we've asked them to survey the lines to
check the condition of the water and
sewer so that we knew what that was
we've done a lot of assessment of it
ourselves internally just to understand
what the condition of the infrastructure
is
and uh just to satisfy that there wasn't
some sort of disaster just waiting to
happen when we took if we took over uh
ownership of
the improvements
um
i lost my train of thought was it what
was i saying so so uh
one of one of the questions was
what was i saying before i talked about
assessing the property
yeah there were a lot of assessments
assessments and then what we were
already taking care of the taxes
yeah yeah so back then there were no tax
levies uh and and sorry as we thought
through it we thought well how is this
different from what's going to stop
sessions village from coming and asking
for the same thing or lions gator bishop
square some other puds that we have
located throughout the city the one
that's most analogous is jeffrey place
which is the private street off of
parkview and the difference is
those
locations
value and want to preserve the privacy
of their street and they want to say
we're a private street
stay out
columbia place residents are willing to
have this be an open street that is
integrated with the rest of our street
grid it really kind of is already but um
it says private street i think on it
that sign would come down that's really
the only thing there it's different
whereas lions gate sessions those other
gated communities they want to preserve
and they want to control entirely that
infrastructure so they're willing to
give that up
um
and i feel that it's a worthwhile
discussion because the fact that they
are paying explicit taxes towards the
the maintenance of streets
now it's true that they're paying the
maintenance of main street and other
streets they drive on to get to their
their house i get that
um
i would
i would think to in my in my opinion
this is a fair request
um
but i think ultimately you guys need to
make the decision
uh i do owe you
before you ask
a uh cost estimate of what it would cost
to pave the street to replace all the
sidewalks to do work on the water and
sewers and what we'll do is we'll do a
life age life estimate where we
basically say
um
you know
sewer will last so long here's what it
would cost us here's our annual takedown
of that and then we can compare that
with what they're paying with
if you want street street levy money for
example sewer capital fees which also
they're paying
and uh get you that but i'm i have
requested that engineers estimate and i
do not have it yet so we will have that
for you mr auditor and then mr martin
ben is
city and the schools will evidently give
up some tax revenue because this will
this is now private property will become
public property the street itself the
street itself and whatever is associated
with that right i mean
if it's private they gotta be paid
somebody's gonna be paying taxes on them
right it depends how the auditor looks
at it i'm sure check that out and i have
no idea
how that's significant or not but we
gotta keep that in mind as we think
through the cost factor well they would
still be paying put taxes on their
individual property i know but not the
streets
if the street is we don't know right
right
can you pull back a little bit i'm just
having a hard time figuring out where
this is and what what
so this is us all that solar right there
yeah
right here and hanging out here
and how how how long is this
how long has this stretch was straight
i've never been on this street it's like
five houses it's a cul-de-sac
yeah there's a gate from our
porch over here that goes right to the
gate there so this is brighton right
here short what we call short brighton
yeah and you can see where it says
private drive into columbia place
um columbia place does have sidewalks on
both sides it has an unu it has a couple
unusual features that are different than
our other streets it has a different
curb structure it's kind of a it's kind
of what it's called a mountable curb so
it's a curb gutter combo
it's not as high profile as our curbs
you see them parking on the sidewalks
they have been warned that they will
have to comply with brexit law as it
pertains to parking so that might you
know that might cause some
some ire with some of them
it's just a call to say well they say
it's not a public street people drive
down here if they want to but nobody got
a reason to unless you live
theoretically they could say it's
joining the the grid here but really
nobody but the residents would ever go
down there so it's not really yeah and
so
are i saying that like all this time
when something when they have a pothole
on that street
that they have hired private contractors
to come in and do that work
um
in theory i but bill might have to i
will tell you as service director when i
was service director there were times i
had problems and they called us and said
can we work something out and we'd say
find it if it was a minor thing we take
care of it and say here's a bill for you
know a couple hundred bucks or something
but
and and
as i've mentioned to the mayor my only
real concern is if there's a significant
problem there that we the city doesn't
get stuck with it
ben's assessment
that he's requested will give us an idea
of you know these streets should last
for another 15 years
or whatever
yeah that's all the way and
one more factor i think to keep in mind
is that sessions village
successfully petitioned council
to take over the water sewer
infrastructure in sessions
ten years ago or so i think maybe less
right um
so
there has been some precedent created
with just water sewer
but there's only six six cars drive on
this every day right not like it's not
like a big truck stop right that's what
that is that's
that's right and sessions said um
you know we don't want you to touch our
streets and you know we want to control
all that which is different i mean it is
a closed off so they've got a big gate
in front of theirs this is just
these residents should charge them for
that
right now it's an option
so uh one question
i think mr klinger had a question yeah i
was just curious how this water and
sewer worked for these five homes
how is it do they pay it they pay the
water they've paid their water bills yes
so they pay the water bill to us
and they pay the water sewer capital fee
they come they they're serviced by our
our storm sanitary and water lines that
come from brighton over to columbia
place
but if there's a break within their
infrastructure they are in charge of
repairing it
today
so that's different
from most conditions yeah
and i think that's when they started to
kind of like freak out as i thought
about that now we did assess it so we
looked at the water sewer uh determined
to be in good condition there is uh 10
or 15 000 worth of concrete work that we
have i believe asked them to perform
before we took it over but it's been a
while since
since we talked about it to them last so
i'm not sure if that's
did you hear that as well well the good
news is we are going to have someone
come in and speak more about this at our
second reading
yeah
so we will hear more that is exciting
it'll either be
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bill
bill settle down um
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super excited so it'll either be bob b
hall and if he cannot make it i was told
it'll be
someone else
all right
mr markham
so so the reasoning behind this though
just to be clear is this is what
we are sort of saying well this seems
sort of like a fair thing to do for
these residents this is no there's no
benefit to the city to
taking this over there's just cost
really
there's there's an intangible small
benefit i say it's slightly
tongue-in-cheek but we spend a lot of
time every year
listening to residents on columbia place
complaining about the fact that we don't
take care of their property and they're
paying taxes so i mean i don't
it's it would be nice to settle the
question one way or the other how about
that so the benefit of reading an
ordinance it exists
i agree that there is no legal reason
that we we are not compelled to take
this property and there is a financial
cost associated with taking this
property
and so then i think you think about what
is the right thing to do
and i think that
uh any
i don't know that's for you guys to
decide i'm not going to tell you what
that is
and i guess the
part of that conversation troy or just i
think would be
if this is the last piece of property
like that in the city
that's one issue if this is one of you
know under seven more and i don't know
that i don't think there are but
we ought to think through that a little
bit you guys ought to think through that
a little bit well there's one other
thing i think to consider that too which
is
is is there an option
i think what you're saying is that this
is this will be done but for us to make
an assessment of what needs to be done
or what could possibly need to be done
because
here's the other thing is
i i it's also
it's it's opportunistic maybe to claim
this as private property for decades and
then if it's on the verge of having some
serious
upkeep done
then turning it over to the city at that
point that's that's where i would feel
like the city does not necessarily have
a moral obligation to
to step in if it's a timeliness issue in
terms of yeah of us taking of us paying
the bill
for something that's come and do and
that's why ben's assessment is so great
yeah okay so
i'll have uh
maybe at our next meeting we also have
dave cope come or he sends an email or
something but we've done that work we
don't believe that that's the case um
i agree with you i also think
that it's while it you know i just told
you that sessions was a precedent
certainly was for water sewer there is
no other condition like this in the city
even jeffrey place
isn't wide enough to have curbs and
sidewalks it's not wide enough to really
present and connect to the rest of the
city so
this is an outlier
when it comes to the street
okay well we will look forward to
someone coming and speaking about that
uh in october
with your permission we will move on to
table ordinances i believe that um i
know that the ones about aggregation
richard had suggested to me that he
would like to take off the table and
discuss
um information about the survey but the
mayor has already done that so we're
going to leave those on the table but i
know that jessica
has
some action on resolution 10
21.
yes um i would like to
take resolution 1021
not off the table yet right we want to
talk about decision first
okay so let's i'm going to make a motion
to move that off the table okay is there
a second mr klingler second
all those in favor voice vote please
aye aye those opposed same signs
[Laughter]
all right
jessica yes so last week city council
met
in a closet for a quasi-judicial hearing
on
this resolution 10-21
regarding the variance of proposed
variants for 407 northview
thank you for those in attendance
tonight being here and thank you for
waiting
as we've concluded other city business
and for being very patient we know your
lives are busy and we appreciate you
being here tonight so we had the
opportunity to do that last week
and we were all presented with the
decision that council
had
made last week at that quad judicial
hearing
so right now i
am going to just speak to all of you
about the decision
before we actually get
back to this resolution
and
with that being said everybody was
copied on it from our city attorney our
city zoning attorney
and um
so you should have had the opportunity
to look at that it was circulated so at
this time i'm just going to ask if there
are any comments or discussions on that
and i'm going to start there
because um the next step we would take
is to go um to move just so you guys
know how this works um we'd go to the
then
ask to have the resolution 1021 but off
the table and make amendments to that
resolution so we'll start with the
decision tonight um any comments or
questions regarding that i know everyone
had a chance to read it
it was very thorough
okay
so no questions all right
so then we would
i believe do we take a vote on that mark
to approve that decision before we go to
the resolution
yeah okay
okay because of now i understand that
the decision is not made public until we
actually vote on it and then that
decision would be made public as far as
our facts and findings from that
quasi-judicial hearing
okay perfect trying to put monique
lampke's hat on here and mr officials
and mrs cunningham
okay so with that being said i'll
would like to make a motion to approve
the decision
um
from uh
resolution
1021. second
okay there's the first that there's this
i'm sorry
i i what i would suggest is that you
may the motions say that the
to approve the decision
granting the variance request with
conditions
okay
that way again it's clear what the
motion is even though it'll be clear
when everybody reads this as well okay
so so i would like to make a motion on
the decision
granting
the proposed variance for resolution
10-21
um with
conditions second
perfect
any questions from council on that
any council any questions from um
those in attendance
uh mr auditor mr klingler yes mossad
yes israel robinson yes mrs
yes mr markham yes mrs lamke yes
all right thank you council so with that
being said what we'll move to now is i
will would like to make a motion to take
resolution 1021 off the table
you've already done it i think we've
already done that so now i'm just going
to open it for discussion
[Music]
at this time we can make amendments to
the res does everyone have a copy and
everyone was able to see
the amended resolution 10-21
um
that would be great
that's the advantage of incumbency here
okay
so um
basically what this
amended resolution is doing is it's
offering
via the decision that council spoke on
that um the facts and finding findings
and conclusions
of the application we did find met the
standards for the variance that the
proposed variants that they were looking
for
but council
did recommend that with that proposed
variance being approved that there were
conditions um that would apply to the
variance so
that's the part
and c
of amended resolution 10-21 i'm going to
read out to counsel right now to make
sure everybody feels comfortable with um
with these conditions that uh
were discussed in
the decision-making process last tuesday
i love it
and that was just recommended that after
i um go over these conditions i would
love to hear from the property owners
and if you're comfortable with those or
um comment that you have okay
so the variance is granted in this
resolution to allow for division of the
property and separate residential
development of lot 19
and lot 20 are all subject to the
following conditions
no lot split can occur during the
existing structures on lot 19 and lot 20
have been
have been demolished a separate
landscape plan for each lot must be
reviewed and approved by bexley tree and
public gardens commission or the city's
landscape consultant before any lot
split
no tree or shrubs shall be removed from
the property before any demolition or
the approval of a landscape plan for
each lap without prior approval of the
bexley tree and public gardens
commission or the city's landscape
consultant
the owner shall prepare and file with
the bees app
board of zoning and planning an
application for a subdivision without a
plot as provided and required by bexley
ordinances including bexley city code
section 1236-11
any such subdivision shall be subject to
the conditions of the variants
all other provisions of the bexley city
code shall apply including but not
limited to
and you'll see each one of those codes
there including
the
other code as well
so um
i'm going to go ahead with that
assad can i real quickly expand on that
just slightly yes so items number two
and three are already required by our
code
the sections of code that are cited
include the one that requires um
landscape plan and um for demolition it
also requires
that no tree or shrub be
removed uh prior to demolition so
those are covered um
and it's yeah it's reiterating which is
good right
so by putting those in there we were
just wanting to make it more transparent
and um since we're not all attorneys and
we may not be all familiar with all the
codes yep then uh just reiterating that
do you have questions or comments
for us
if you do if you want to come up and
state your name and your address that
would be great
hi i'm kristen ross and i'm here on
behalf of the applicant the applicant is
here as well it was my pleasure to be
before you last tuesday and then also we
were before
bzap last thursday
bzap also granted
the um
lot split which i believe is number four
on the variance conditions
with conditions which are substantially
similar to what you've proposed so it's
clear to me that everybody's on the same
page which is great
one of the two questions that we have
paragraph two
c2 would require landscape plan for lot
number 19. i'm sorry lot number 20
which um right now is planned to be a
vacant lot
the home is going to be constructed on
lot number 19.
so
not sure what the wisdom of providing a
landscape plan for a vacant lot
presumably
when
when everything is completed the home is
built on lot number 19
um
a new buyer would come and make
proposals
to the city on
you know what is intended to be built
there and a landscape plan would in
theory be
um as part of that proposal
um
it would seem to me that you would want
the lots bit and plate a lot split in
place
when you're marketing lot number
um 20 for sale and so um
i guess that there's a questionnaire as
to whether or not
we need to have a landscape plan before
we identify you know the the how the how
the house is going to situate on that
particular lot
and then the second question we have
is in paragraph number three the
applicant has already received
approval for demolition what we don't
know is whether or not
landscape has been part of that process
already and that's just because we don't
know
um you know whether or not that's
occurred certainly we're happy to
to work with
the um the landscape board or the bexley
tree and public gardens commission
when selecting trees for removal
whatever but we think that may have been
already done as part of the approvals to
get the existing demolition approvals
i can answer the first um and what
council
how they came to that decision and some
concerns was since they would be two
separate lots and one would be up for
sale
um council was just concerned with being
neighborly in the community that there
would simply just be grass that would be
there and so that it wouldn't be a
deterrent and just a lot that was
not
taken care of and demo was done and then
it wasn't kind of brought back to
just a simple beautification of making
sure that grass was simply there so
that's where council was coming from on
that
then maybe it just
maintained
the
long care
according the city code but not
to apply the new like new trees and no
new design landscaping those kind of
things you know what i mean because this
is empty lots so
i can address this because we have past
precedent with this yeah so
we do require landscape plans for
demolition even if it's an uh interim
use so an example that is a lot of
casting hammond maine
has recently been demolished it was a
former commercial property a landscape
plan was required just to show even if
it's simple as we're filling its compact
thing we're putting grass in
ensuring that
trees and shrubs are preserved so those
are existing sections of our city code
that require that
i did speak with the attorney a little
bit about this when i saw this i just
want to double check that she had
intended that in writing it as well and
the intent is that it matches our code
which is not to do a landscape plan for
a new home
it's to do a landscape plan for that
interim use and it doesn't it doesn't
specify anything other than just
landscape plan if it's as simple as a
lawn
that's okay
yeah because even that plan would show
that this tree exists this trees this
this tree exists they're not being taken
away right
they already indicate yes my archetype
will
address that yes and then it's going to
be
removed where is why it's not going to
remove
so that's yes okay uh archetype of world
you know
which ties in directly with the next
point which is that in
1026.16 we have pretty specific
provisions for
non-removal um and approval of a
landscape plan prior to the demolition
taking place so there is
there is some additional work that needs
to be done even if
these app might not even be aware
necessarily that section of the code
just in terms of that process so just be
careful that you're looking at that
section
any other comments
thank you
thank you so much thank you thank you
good luck with your building yes
we're ready to see something really
beautiful
all there
um so we need to
um
vote on amending
so
and then vote on the actual thing so go
ahead so i would like to make um
a motion to
vote on amendment uh a resolution
10-amended resolution 10-21
first for voting on the amendments
themselves second
and ms robinson did that yes all right
are there any questions on the
amendments to this ordinance right
i'm not sure what the motion was the
motion was to amend not on the amended
version right so we're amending now
we're a man okay
all right no questions no questions from
those in attendance
yes mr markham yes mrs lamke yes mr
klingler yes
yes ms robinson yes asked now do you
have action on amended ordinance
uh
ted 21
yes i would like to
make a motion to um on to take action on
the amendment
to approve
the amended resolution 10-21 thank you
is there a second second thank you ms
lamke
mr auditor assad yes ms robinson yes mr
markham yes sir klingler yes miss fibel
yes ms lamke yes
pass
wonderful
all right okay
so much
good luck with everything
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all right we're going to move on to um
our reports
uh finance committee mr markham chair
no i don't think so all right well thank
you for that
he was really busy for the first hour
from five to six okay uh safety and
health committee ms robinson
it's really really important that we get
feedback from the community about the
experiences that we have as individuals
and families have had with our police
department it's really that this kind of
information is really important to help
formulate what that policy will look
like so i encourage everybody to uh take
a few minutes and answer that survey and
uh do some service for uh for our city
so that's it other than that i have
nothing thanks jen we will make a point
of that and we will make sure that we
share it with all of our neighbors and
friends etc
zoning and development committee jessica
chair
yes um just real quickly i was gonna
report on the cic meeting that we had
last week um please make note that the
next one is actually going to be on
election night november 2nd
[Laughter]
busy night 5 o'clock here in city hall
we're getting started early so write
that down
we did hear from nicole boyer of tcb
with a resubmission of livingston and
the cassidy project
as as of this time no partnership is
expected to happen with the cic
because of the hit the no history of
building housing so they're looking at
prospective partnerships
so i'm sure we'll hear more at the
november meeting
and then
the mayor spoke about 420 north cassidy
which is super exciting
to
to do something with that space
currently and i love that it's going to
be a senior
teen
space i think the community is going to
really respond to that so i love the
creative thinking
um
and then quickly here i have a note from
pam glasgow from the bef of what she
wanted to
report tonight
so
she wanted to make sure everybody knew
that
the bexley education foundation has
initiated this year's annual fund drive
they are planning to publish their fall
alumni magazine in october
and they're taking a big initiative on
making sure that alumni are more
doing just a better job of
engaging young alumni as well as old
alumni back into the community and
really using
you know the
futuristic databases to be able to to
grab a hold of those alumni so it's
pretty cool what they're doing there
they are planning for a new and improved
bravo save the date march 26
2022 is what they're planning
and they have undertaken a rebranding
initiative and the first step is a
community-wide survey which anyone can
take
there's a qr code that i'll copy
everyone sitting here tonight on so
i would love for everybody to
participate in that
the education foundation as we know does
a lot for extra for our schools and
allows us to have the top education that
we expect in bexley schools so that is
my report thank you jessica
moving on to recreation and parks
committee mr klingler nothing to report
thank you mr klingler judiciary and
strategic committee monique lamke uh two
things first of all i know that most of
you attended the very successful taste
of bexley i think that our vexa area
chamber of commerce really hit it
out of the park what we thought maybe
was going to be
ruined by some weather ended up being a
wonderful night in bexley so thanks to
all of you for volunteering thanks to
the chamber and also thanks to the
vendors and businesses and sponsors that
took place in that
and the second was just a reminder
october 8th a hispanic heritage food
truck celebration in the parking lot of
the bexley library come and have a great
time
and just also very quick thank you again
to the community foundation for their
generous grant to
see what's possible with
the property up on north cassidy for our
seniors i applaud them um so much for
doing that and a report
madam president i was also corrected by
mike price i was so enthusiastic it was
a thirty thousand dollar grant not a
forty thousand dollar grant so i just
set the record straight
so you don't get mad later on
you know what's what's ten thousand
between friends maybe don't forget
all right um it's the end of our
committee uh reports and we are to the
point of public comments towards the end
of our meeting
is there anyone um that has any comments
to share with us this evening
all right is there a motion to adjourn
motion to adjourn thank you is there a
second
second thank you all there's a favor
please signify by saying aye aye aye
um that was a pose same sign
all right meeting is adjourned at 7 33
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