council further approves a certificate
of appropriateness for the pool and pool
house as recommended by the
architectural review board and the
landscape wall proposed at bsap
all located in the front yard and as
modified and in accordance with all
final plans before be zap on april 28
2022
and the conditions of counsel which
shall be identified in a certificate of
appropriateness with landscaping subject
to final review and approval by the tree
and public gardens commission as
recommended by arb
and i will make a motion to grant the
appellants the second assignment of
error and reverse the decision of the
board of zoning and appeals
all right
if not i can send it to mr mcpeak i
think right
yes mr klingler yes miss lamke yes mr
markham yes miss fibel yes ms robinson
yes and mr marcelino yes
okay so just just for purposes of some
housekeeping there will be at some point
um later in the meeting certainly by the
end of the meeting a copy of the
findings of facts and conclusions of law
and a record of council action regarding
the um
what you just heard the vote that you
just heard um taken um we just don't
have signatures formal signatures on the
documents but they will be available
sometime this evening and will be mailed
to the proper parties
thank you mr official
i think we move on now
we are
at
now we can move to ordinances
resolutions with visiting presenters and
we are going to introduce ordnance 34-22
the second reading
actually i guess mark needs to probably
read this but we will have
some folks presenting on that this
evening all right so we have a second
reading of ordinance 34-22 to amend the
use variants at 216 south columbia
avenue to allow for expansion of the
exis existing carriage house introduced
by matt klingler
and again this is going to be in the
form of the nature of this um the nature
of the
ordinance is um in the form that
requires a public hearing this is the
public hearing um so i know that um
individuals who any any any individual
can speak on this at the proper time
which we'll explain you do not have to
have filled out a um
speaker slip to speak on the sector
reading of this ordinance
we're going to
set up the structure here so we know
what we're doing and you have to bear
with me a little bit i do not have the
experience that mr klingler has in
running these things so this will be my
first one all right
and we're going to start off though
we'll have 10 minutes for the applicant
to uh to uh speak on this uh we will
allow
opposition
uh
anybody wants to speak and opposition
will allow up to five minutes for each
of those uh we will allow uh folks who
want to speak in favor up to five
minutes for those and then we will allow
the applicant to come back up for a five
minute rebuttal from from what they've
heard i will also of course allow
council to uh to weigh in with any
questions
uh
miss and i'd remind you
let's
be efficient with our words let's avoid
invective
make your case we're here to hear
everybody we're really happy that you're
here uh to speak with us and you will
have our full attention have i covered
that sufficiently mr fischer i think you
got it all right may we have the
applicant up here for the opening
remarks thank you and please state your
name and address with you
can you turn on your turn on that
microphone please yes
okay nathan sampson uh and our offices
are at 990 west 3rd avenue columbus ohio
okay
i'll try and be concise with this so we
don't uh check it out for too long but
uh the background in this case is we
presented a
modification a renovation addition to an
existing carriage house at 216 south
columbia
through that process uh we worked
closely with
city staff
we got a unanimous approval from arb
for the architecture presented for both
the neighboring uh project and the
addition to the carriage house um and
then there was also a separation of lots
which
was passed by the beez app four to one
so i think we
definitely were working to adhere to the
sort of zoning guidelines of the city of
bexley
and also using that to balance out uh
our clients needs for their future home
um
i think that
what we're looking at today is simply a
amendment to a use variance that was
granted in 1997 for a living space above
a detached garage
the amendment that we are proposing is
that we increase that second floor space
by 255 square feet so if you were to
compare this to what is allowable by
zoning code it is you know within you
know a couple dozen square feet of what
would be considered an in-law suite it's
allowable by code if it's attached to
the house
so with that you know the conditions
that we're dealing with is simply that
space as approved currently exists
within that uh detached structure
um
i think that you know
with
there was conditions in 97 placed on
that
use variance and i think that you know
in working with our clients to balance
out what was needed
for them
the modification or amendment of the
size of that space
was the only
condition that we're here to
modify so you know
with good reason i think that some other
conditions were placed on this including
you know no reduction of off-street
parking
occupants are required to use a portion
of the off street parking on site of
course
um accessory structure shall ever be
rented you know that's not the intent uh
of our client and um i clearly
understand and they understand the
purpose of that condition and then of
course a technical consideration about
it if it was destroyed uh to be rebuilt
it would need a
special permit granted by city council
the
purpose of the carriage house renovation
edition uh is carefully considered you
know with our guidance and with our
clients um to
be
you know within
all architectural and zoning guidelines
for a physical structure on the site
it's actually five percent smaller than
what would be allowable for a detached
garage
so really we're just focusing on what
that second floor is used for
you know the appropriateness of that
structure was uh confirmed by the arb
with the unanimous vote for approval
um
i think that you know
this has been sort of a tricky project
to unwrap just because of the conditions
over time
but working closely with staff you know
we have not asked for additional
variances throughout this process for
lot size lot coverage setbacks
and
the height of the structures so really
we're just trying to accommodate
the needs of our clients as they look
forward to moving to bexley
we welcome the board's questions
as stated throughout this process our
clients are excited to become your
neighbors right
they have a great
or put a great deal of thought into this
project and developing a proposal that
meets their needs for their family
in a manner that aligns we feel with the
spirit and intent of the architectural
guidelines but also the zoning code you
know this is an existing use simply
being amended and modified
um
i will leave it there for the moment and
let anyone else speak that would like to
i'll be back to answer any questions
thank you
right now
we'd like to take this time to bring up
people that would like to speak
in opposition
to
the variance please the ordinance
please approach us
and ask you to stay within
five minutes if you can
please state your name and address okay
i'm erica mcintyre i live at 172 south
columbia avenue
i was here i think on the first reading
i think you all heard what i had to say
here's my next thing i'm going to say um
go ahead and lean into that mic a little
bit or or bring it back to you maybe a
little bit um is that better yeah
so nate hasn't shown the pictures i i
don't know if you plan on showing the
pictures of what it looks like
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okay anyway so if you look at it it
looks like a house it and i don't know
what constitutes a house but to me a
house has a front door it has an
entryway it has lights around the door
and it looks like a house if that house
were somewhere in north actually it
would look like a house anywhere in
bexley it looks like it what they're
proposing looks like a house and if it's
a house
what constitutes
a house
compared to another house and why
wouldn't it be its own lot and why
wouldn't we get taxes from that house so
that's my first question
and my second question is for an
ordinance to be granted the use
what the ordinance says that the use
will not alter the essential character
or be detrimental to the neighborhood or
to the neighbors adjacent
to me this is
altering the essential character of our
neighborhood having three houses
where there was one is altering the
essential character
i think it's detrimental to my property
value i think it's detrimental to the
property value to the south and i think
it's detrimental to the property value
to the north south east
thank you
thank you do we have
others who would like to speak in
opposition
if not do we have others who would speak
and support
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if not i will uh have some time for uh
closing rebuttal if you would like
president markham one
we have one hebrew
you may not necessarily ask a question
you can come up and give us
some thoughts but this is not a question
and answer period
i can't compel people to yeah
my name is matt eschelbrenner i live at
225 south drexel um it's the property to
the east
um my
i'm not speaking in favor or in
opposition yeah i just honestly had a
question to
looking back at the
um
ordinance maybe that's not the right
term that was passed in 1997 where it
said the
existing structure could not be expanded
i did not live in bexley at that time
and was honestly just wondering if
there's anyone who could shed some light
on why that original statement was made
i'm sorry to clarify that question for
you the statement about
which statement are you in 1997
ordinance yep so in 1997 it sounds like
there was an ordinance that originally
said the structure the size of the
structure could not be changed
and i was just wondering if there was
any background if anyone had any insight
as to
why that was originally said all right
thank you i'm gonna i'm gonna ask mr
fishel and the mayor maybe to hold that
uh and either get back to you or answer
it when we get to the council's time if
that's appropriate thank you
i'll go i'm gonna pass it over uh maybe
i didn't look carefully either i'll see
if anybody else wants to speak here real
quickly and if not go ahead please
okay
um well
i think as we sort of touched on briefly
at the
start you know this was originally two
historic lots right and throughout this
process we had we separated the lots
um
to release uh a condition that was
placed on them when the pool house was
built originally this is for a different
lot so i won't go into that all that
much um but uh as far as uh my
understanding is at the time when this
variance was or this use variance was
granted in 1997
uh
the there was a climate within bexley of
uh just being careful about
people
renting out spaces or carriage houses
and those conditions were placed you
know
on
this project back then for those reasons
um there was also uh documentation at
that time that this um
structure would only couldn't be
rendered could only be used by family or
a nanny in this case for the house
to alleviate some of those concerns but
i think that
back then it was a holistic picture now
we want to carry on with that and this
project is designed you know
specifically for this family's use i
think that you know the
design and use of it is specific to them
there will be it is designed for one
family member to live there with their
family to have some independence living
close by
um
and we certainly looked at this the
zoning code that is in place now and for
just a detached structure as i said we
are certainly almost five percent under
what would be allowable
so you know it's not necessarily about
the structure at this point
as much as we were talking about simply
the use that instigated those conditions
previously and the use that we're trying
to amend now specifically for these
clients and for one particular occupant
all right thank you
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i think we will uh
bring it back to council here with
questions and comments it looks like mr
marcelino maybe has a comment or a
question yes thank you very much and uh
mr samson i believe this question is
going to be for you if you want to stay
up there um so this is going to be its
own standalone structure the carriage
house itself will carry its own address
no
okay
um
how will it be taxed
uh just as the rest of the property is
uh will the city suffer a loss in
regards to it not having its own address
and being taxed as a separate parcel no
it'll be the property we tax on its
value whether it's a separate parcel or
not have you done an evaluation in
regards to what the difference would be
if it were separated from the original
structure as its own resonance because
that's what it is it's a primary
resonance for an individual typically in
the community that would have its own
address its own number
has there been any study done in terms
of
whether the city will lose by it not
having its own taxable address
i don't uh i don't think so i don't know
exactly because only because that as
this being wrapped into
the value of a property the comparison
between that being incorporated or
separate um i don't happen to live in
bexley so i'm not super familiar with
the taxation
i can you know state i have concerns in
regards to that
behoove the family to look into that and
provide some information
to that extent because i i tend to agree
that this is going to be
an independent
dwelling for an individual
that would be treated like a home in all
other parts
and that's acceptable you know so long
as it's under the code but the taxing is
a concern for me
the um
the structure now and the use now is
existing
right and so
the owners of that property would be
able to
use it for their family certainly as
outlined before um
our renovation modification of it is not
you know per the design
it's a carriage house it's a garage and
and the design uh reflects that almost
entirely where this is not presented to
the street actually the addition is back
tucked back further behind the house so
it's not meant to appear or
you know act as a primary structure may
be uh perceived too i understand your
question but that was just a little bit
of insight from a design standpoint
if it's okay before we move on i think
maybe mr official could clarify some of
that too yeah mr marcelino's question
raised an issue that i think i want to
make sure we clarify it is currently the
1997 um this is a question for council
over for you mostly but the 1997
ordinance that was passed allowed the
carriage house to be built
and be
occupied by a separate
somebody who's either a family member or
an employee of the family who live in
the house
that that's not changing in this
situation great you just want it to be
bigger correct okay i just want to make
sure that that we are all on the same
page that that
if council denies the the uh use
variants what does that say right
usefulness
if the council denies the use variants
that the there's still a carriage house
that can still be used in the manner
that it's been used up to this point
and presumably will continue to be used
that way that's not really your call so
i just want to clarify that because i
don't want any confusion about
the you know that that there might be a
change in anything other than the size
of it
correct yep
that that's right and then the use would
stay the same um it's simply you know
the modification that structure uh to
perpetuate that
existing approved use
assad did you have a question or comment
yes i'm just wondering
how the ordinance reads um how do we
define
family of the property owner
are you i'm
sure family member yes
in the ordinance or in our particular
case in your particular case like how
would we know
how are we defining the family
that would live in that property
the uh family member for this uh project
is the property owner's brother
for this project but um
i guess that's something i'm hesitant
about of how
you know
if that were to change who could that be
um maybe
a clear that might be also a question
for mr fisher yeah i think i can give
you
i mean
a legal definition is going to be
that it has to be somebody by blood or
marriage it can't be oh uncle joe raised
me and he's like my grandfather that
would not fly it has to be somebody by
blood or marriage and if there's ever a
question the city has the right to ask
for documentation to establish that it's
being used the appropriate way either
now just like it's being used now or
should if the variance is granted or
denied it would be the same
ms lamke do you have a question or
comment
i do um
could you share with us other than uh
miss mcintyre who just spoke were there
any other residents or opposition
that had either reached out to you or
uh were at the arb meeting on august
11th
yes uh i know other residents have
reached out to me with questions uh but
uh
i think
two or three other residents that are in
that vicinity um
came to
i think it was our arb hearing
uh and i think that
two of them spoke there their concerns
at that time which i think the record
will show would be
uh were voiced as far as the shared
driveway
um for the two properties which is i
think my client's purview of how to use
that there's certainly enough room for a
second driveway down the road if if
somebody chooses to to do that for the
properties
but at that time their comments were
focused on
the new structure the proposed house
which is on a legal lot
and the access to those
via a shared driveway which is allowed
by code as well
and my follow-up question was given
those concerns uh have there been any
efforts between your clients and
the neighbors or other residents that
have concerns to try to find common
ground and
work through it um i think that you know
i've met with the mcintyres twice to
understand their concerns um we have
most of the concerns at that time were
about the new structure to the north of
this which is adjacent to theirs
so we talked through screening and
providing agreed to provide
additional screening in the rear yard
for equipment which isn't required by
code um
you know certainly understanding that
this is a change for them and i get that
but within the
guidelines of bexley's zoning code and
architectural code we're certainly
within
design this and prepared this proposal
and design within the zoning codes
applicable today
so
it was i think that we've made measures
to improve that situation although we
haven't of course
answered every single one
sure mr klingler
oh i'm sorry mr official i think
just quick clarification because this is
not a quasi-judicial hearing and there's
not a record any council member is
welcome to go back and look at and
consider what happened at arb and those
other residents who may have spoken you
don't have to it's just your call
okay
i was wondering um
this is a single parcel correct so it's
not it's not two separate parcels so it
wouldn't have its own address but we're
we're focused on
the
just the 255 square feet that it's being
added on
correct
mayor do you have any
knowledge do you have any knowledge of
to
detrimental to property value or i know
your background is in
real estate tax appraisal correct
your microphone you need your microphone
on too into a spot appraisal that's
right i i did used to do in a past life
um
yeah so a couple things to think about
when we talk about value with this
property um
first off our code would not allow it to
be split into a separate parcel it would
be a non-conforming parcel
it would it would have to the line would
have to happen somewhere along here you
would need an easement for access
and if you imagine what would happen if
this were a separate parcel separately
sold which it couldn't be because it can
only be
occupied by a family member let's just
pretend for a second it could be
imagine what that does to this ancestor
to the primary structures the primary
residence is where most of the value is
in this property by far
when the auditor when the franklin
county otter looks at the valuation
they apply a square foot value to
finished area
it's different than they're applied to
unfinished area so in theory when
they're valuing this
they're applying a square foot value to
the finished area in the single family
residence
and they're applying a square foot value
to the finished area above the garage
which is what we're calling the carriage
house
in theory that value should fully
encompass
the value of that living space
in theory if they're doing their job
correctly
if you were to split it apart what you
would do is you'd actually damage the
value of the primary residence for a
couple different reasons it wouldn't
have a garage
it wouldn't have a place to put a garage
and it would be having this separate
unknown smaller residence right behind
it which is an unusual situation so i
would submit like it's definitely worth
more not split off with its own address
um
but that is uh as good as you'll get
from an armchair appraisal as we just
look at this i think the key is the
value is in the finished space so
if we were concerned about about making
sure we capture that value one thing we
can do as a city and we have every right
to do this is make sure that the auditor
is fully on notice that there is
finished space above that garage
has understands that it has some
independent access and and that there
are some additional amenities above and
beyond just you know an office above a
garage and in doing so in theory we can
fully capture that finished space value
and here speaking of the franklin county
franklin county editor yep yes not the
esteemed auditor to my left
although he's welcome to make that phone
call
any any more questions or comments
ms robinson are you queuing up there
all right i see you making a move sorry
all right if not thank you and uh we'll
conclude this portion of the agenda all
right thank you very much just to note
we of course two weeks from now we'll
meet again there will be a third reading
and a vote on likely a vote on this uh
this ordinance and again any resident
any res any person is permitted to speak
for against or in between um about the
any third readings this will be a third
reading um i can say i don't have any
insight about 1997. and um i don't know
if the mayor has any thoughts on that um
sorry that's as good as it gets for me
i can say it's a common condition of a
variance the the the key being the use
variance
was set in place on a certain
model of size
and so
that applicant can't just at any time
come back to the building department and
say i'd love to double the space because
it really changes the character of that
variance so it triggers a return back to
council if they want any changes
but again we weren't here in 1997. i was
on earth but
not in this room it you didn't vote on
that vote on that one all right
i reached the point in the agenda where
we allow public comments with a speaker
slip mr mcpeek do we have any speaker
slips
um we have a speaker slip but i believe
she spoke i'm tied to this
you may uh sure
about things that are not on the agenda
correct isn't that
right
it's not allowed at this point you could
do two one or two thing two of two
things you can certainly submit if
anything in writing to counsel all
council members and you can come and
speak at the next um the next um council
meeting on this
oh we're done with this issue for now
for tonight
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there is so this is an unusual situation
if i may yep an usual situation because
it requires an actual public hearing as
opposed to
regular in air quotes legislation so in
this because this was a public hearing
the opportunity there isn't there's not
not a second opportunity for a rebuttal
your arguments or anybody else who
opposed
the who opposes this uh ordinance that
your opportunity was after he
he made his first comments which is how
it commonly how it works in court too
and when there's an appeals argument the
person advocating the their position um
goes first the person opposing the
position goes second and then the person
advocating gets a short time to rebut
that's how those are the rules that we
set for this one
it also allows counsel and us
opportunity to ask questions of the
applicant but you know we just simply
don't want to get into a situation where
we have community members out here going
back and forth into an argument but we
would love to hear your response to that
and i would invite you please to email
us and we will read that email or phone
us we'd be happy to have conversations
with you we just don't want to make this
forum and extended back and forth over
over this issue again we will be doing a
third reading uh next time and we invite
you of course to come speak at that
point as well and and make your case
yes ms fibel
and i think that item number 24 the very
end of our meeting
um takes public comment on on anything
well that's true too so if you don't
wait till the very end of the meeting
you are welcome to or if you want to go
and come back
you can do that too
so yeah you don't have to stay for the
whole meeting to take part in that share
though yep
absolutely
um any more speaker slips mr mcpeek
troy
yes can i just mention really quickly
just so you know because you're here
tonight and we appreciate you being here
is that
if you want to reach out to council it's
city council at bexley.org just that
easy city council at bexley.org
it comes to every one of us including
the mayor and the auditor and i know for
you as a resident that might for the
first time being here that might take
you a while to navigate that so
um there you go
you got it
and as um mrs fiable said we would love
to hear from you
it also is entered into the public
record when you when you submit that
if not we will move on to item number
seven the president's report
i just want to highlight
you know
highlight a few council members here i
think who have done just a fantastic job
lately and somewhat in the past and i i
did make a joke about mr klingler but
thank you mr klingler for stepping up uh
and taking us through that appeal
process as miss odd will testify it's
not easy work we do appreciate the
service that you do and and and that you
did it so well for us
also i i want to take the time because i
don't know that we have and maybe we
haven't for some of the new council
members but
uh ms fibel will testify that our old
agenda structure did not look like this
agenda structure and as i go through
this in my duties each week and putting
together a meeting and agenda i am
actually much more appreciative as time
goes by of the new way that we have
structured the meeting and that is
thanks to ms lampke who came to city
council with fresh eyes took a look at
that and introduced uh
and i just want to say that a a couple
years later it is it's wearing well i
think it uh i think
very very good
the third uh person i was going to
recognize is maybe not here but i was
going to say
natalie richards
did she disappear it's it's her birthday
oh
it's all right i was going to recognize
that it's her birthday oh everybody
wants her
all right she's not here maybe when she
comes back can i
what's that
we can both do it when she comes back
all right
okay she's anyway she's almost always
here because and she's not here because
she's probably doing something important
so
yeah uh i'm going to move this to the uh
city attorney report all right the only
thing i want to say is i am not
recognizing natalie's birthday that's
all i have to say
well that's great
that's because he had a birthday what
yesterday
mr mcpeak you can give us your auditor's
report please
thank you um
yep and um this is again just
every every month um i'll give an update
on just the various different items um
so i'll bullet point some of these here
but um you know the first thing i wanted
to just mention is um you know as i've
gotten settled into the role um what i'm
trying to do is think of different areas
to focus on in certain quarters or
months um and one of the things that i
wanted to dig into was just the
procure-to-pay process so that is just
in general um how do we go about as a
city um
purchasing items approving that spend
and all of those items so you know one
of the things that i've done is um
started to review uh some of the capital
purchases which is really just you know
tables chairs those types of things um
so i'll get in the habit of publishing a
report just of those capital purchases
so that um
those are are visible um in addition uh
i'm interested in just understanding
what other communities are doing that
are like bexley um and what those those
processes are like so um have reached
out to our auditors uh just to start
having some conversations to better
understand what is the environment like
um in in communities like bexley
um so i wanted to let you know that
that's that's occurring and then
the next bullet point here which is
really something the bearer facilitates
um with and you guys have been through
this more
but it's the budget process so i know um
you know i've been collecting notes of
just different changes that we've made
um throughout the year and just things
to be captured as we go through the
budget process but you know certainly as
you guys are thinking about the budget
um
certainly share those with me and the
mayor and and you know monique because i
think you're
uh you know actively involved in the
budget process but it is important that
we just start gathering these things and
make certain that you know all ideas and
thoughts are captured as we build out
the budget for 2023.
um and i know um we talked briefly about
an hr assessment um
spoken with the mayor um through emails
and i think he'll have a brief update on
it but um you know some progress there
we'll be evaluating for some some firms
um to um consider doing an hr assessment
of our our internal processes as well
um so some good things going on and um
and certainly if you guys think of
things where you'd like me to focus on
please please let me know
um what i'll also do um i guess any
questions on those before i move on
the only two things um we'll touch base
on um here would be we've got a snapshot
of year-to-date operating fund balances
and performance i'm not going to go into
that because beecher
will speak to that and spoke to these
results
um last month but you know as you can
see here we're ahead of budget and
revenue we're under budget and expenses
those two things coming together is a
beautiful story for the community
um
the other slide which i really like is
the one on the right
i'm sorry graph is that's just cash and
investment balances so as you can see
here we began the year at about 20
million dollars in in liquidity um we're
now uh north of 24 million dollars in
liquidity um through all the collections
and and various different city
activities so that is a good trend um
and uh you know throughout the year
we'll have peaks and valleys and and
spend money and and that'll go up and
down but um
a good trend
any questions here
question over here ms lamke i was just
going to ask given the economical
climate and the recession and inflation
the trend that you just referred to are
you expecting that that's going to
continue to benefit us or could that
potentially impact
our performance um and would you say
that just like our gross receipts and
all of those types of actions
everything's costing more rates are
going way up yeah i mean it i mean those
are great questions i mean i think um i
don't have a crystal ball um but it's
something that we'll just have to
continue to monitor i think it's
something that we'll be digging into
more through the budget process i think
it is going to be important that
throughout the budget process we're very
mindful of
the tax trends which which have been
favorable um despite these activities
that have occurred over the past couple
years
but i think the area that we we will
need to focus on would be expense
structures um
you know in my day job um you know we're
going through insurance renewals and all
those areas and i i have not seen the
price increases but i do expect them to
be meaningful um so you know i know
we've kicked off some conversations
internally at the city uh so i think it
is just important that as we are going
through this budget process that we um
we get the facts that we can get um and
then certainly take into consideration
the macroeconomic conditions and and how
that could have a ripple effect through
us but um you know we are a highly rated
community um so
um
you know i we we continue to be in a
very good spot but um you know there
will be other communities that are
impacted uh certainly more so than we
are
okay
i i heard a little eruption over here
sorry i'm not tr i didn't mean to i just
want to make sure i'm understanding this
correctly because the so and the the
trend of cash and investments that's
phenomenal yeah that's across the board
that's all our money not just general
fund right that's correct everything
that's everything yep that's what i
assumed but i didn't want to assume
that's everything
we do love the graphs thank you mister i
i try and do it
yeah i like the uh i like the color
scheme that you've chosen here i think
we're
we like blue here it's very yeah reading
the room very well i hear about you know
a good point to bring up and put in
everybody's vision is budget is is
coming up really really quickly uh it's
something that makes me tense for a
second and then i relax because i
realize that ms lamke is in charge of
taking us through this
and so uh okay yeah
now now i know why uh lori ann looks so
much more relaxed during that period
all right so and then the next slide
you're you're not done with me yeah you
have another slide
it's a weird uh it's google sheets um
while you're pulling it up um and again
in the spirit of um transparency and and
going through um you know historically
um we have
shared primarily the operating result
financial or the
the general fund results what
really does exist in slide two would be
snapshots of our sewer fund and our
waste funds
and you know what this is intended to do
is to create visibility for the
community and for city council um as to
how we're doing in these funds
and you know in both of these cases
these are funds um these are pretty
simple funds to discuss this month these
are these are instances where we're
collecting fees uh from the community
for both waste and sewer and then we are
primarily paying out monies to third
parties like the city of columbus and
rumpke to support those those funds so
um you know this is pretty much a wash
we tend to do a very good job of
budgeting this where income matches
expenses and in these cases um that is
just the case so
um
at this point in time i think we'll just
make sure that it's in the there to
discuss and we'll talk through it and
then furthermore they we have strong
cash balances in those accounts and then
the next snapshot is just something that
was a public record request um which i
also just thought i would share and that
is that shows historical um tax trends
um from
2019 through 21. so this modi kind of
gets back to your question which is what
is our what are our trends been and this
is just a good breakout so whenever we
get public good public records requests
like this
i'll always want to make sure that the
city council um and those in attendance
um are aware of what's what's been
requested and what's out there um so
you know that is
the extent of the auditor's report um
any questions
all right sorry mr mink figure i didn't
mean to play you off like they do with
the emmys and stuff you know i mean
i'm just waiting for the music
you need more time you give me that
point all right before we get to the
administrative update i do want to point
out major problem with the agenda
tonight natalie and that is that during
the president's report you left we're
getting ready to say happy birthday to
you
and uh i think we all know
we all know how hard you work but i
think it definitely merits mentioning
that natalie works very very hard for uh
for the city and for especially for this
city council and we've all gotten those
updated agendas at 9 00 pm on friday or
or whatnot and emailing and responses so
happy birthday to you and we really
really appreciate you
[Applause]
and now uh now i'll turn it over to
mayor kessler
thank you mr president it is my pleasure
to welcome to the first time to our
council meeting in his capacity as chief
of police our chief gary lewis chief
lewis thank you for being here with us
and as part of your hazing ritual
you get to present your first ever chief
council update
which is in the screen in front of us
here uh so chief
you may take as long as you want thank
you and um first and foremost thank you
to
city council and to members of the
community um i would be remiss if i
don't acknowledge the hazing comment
after working at universities for so
many years that they're you know that's
the hr side we can't talk about hazing
oh it's like fight club you know
sorry i didn't mean to trigger you with
that
um but my family and i just ecstatic
about this opportunity ivy has been
absolutely loving her time at
jeffrey mansion and just continuing to
assimilate here and back sleep uh first
and foremost just want to provide an
overview of just what's been happening
that's kind of been ongoing and then
just talk about a couple of quick things
that have happened in my beginning of
week three
one of the dynamics that we've
implemented is we're doing um
face-to-face business checks so we're
actually conducting foot patrols where
we are out meeting with individual
business owners up and down main street
and we started this um on monday and the
interaction has been extremely positive
on the number of business owners who
have just been elated at that
face-to-face
interaction
working with some of them doing some new
best practices on how to keep their
building safe from looking at adding
cameras to
conducting some lockdowns and some other
things i'm trying to minimize potentials
um from homeless to to others um
types of incidents so it's been very
very positively uh
received each officer will be required
on days and afternoons to do at least
one business check
that should last probably anywhere from
a half an hour to 45 minutes done
properly and so we'll start tracking
that to ensure that everyone's
participating and getting that buy-in
additionally one of the things that we
started yesterday is we have a heavy
presence now at broad and cassingham
in the morning and afternoon hours we've
partnered with a group of concerned
parents that really express some
concerns
focused around safety so we have
committed to have our personnel there um
this is a beta for us this is new and so
doing this utilizing existing staff um
upon completion this beta in december
we'll meet with that group see the the
good bad and indifferent we're also
hoping to get some volunteers to assist
us in aid in this initiative and effort
and we also last we kicked off our
citizens police academy uh absolutely
ecstatic about just a very
a great group
who's a part of that also our alumni
group that makes it up so so that's also
been a big positive
um again on the proactive side we're
we have um recently received some
federal grant monies that have trickled
down to the state
and looking to capitalize on
that grant application with body-worn
cameras and that would be added to
to replace some some existing cameras
that we have
on the reactive side
as many of you may or may not know the
city of columbus and many metropolitan
communities to include bexley
have experienced a number of vehicle
thefts in particular kias have been
targeted and we've seen that around the
short north campus and adjacent areas um
also and so
year to date we've seen a pretty good
number and we've had 43 thefts this year
12 of those have just been in the past
month and so there's been a lot of local
media attention that's been generated
around that um predictable is
preventable there are ways to prevent
this from happening from using the um
auto
theft
mechanisms to steering wheels so there
are some ways to deal with it and trying
to to reintroduce that
additionally
our senior community continues to be
targeted with some phishing scams et
cetera so we just want to
make sure we put that out there and
remind them the mayor and i will be
working on some communications on how to
not only
message what we're doing within the
police department but in the community
so we're looking at probably doing a
quarterly newsletter to provide updates
and also um really get some feedback as
to to other things that are happening
and and some of the best practices that
that are taking place within the
department
questions for me
it's probably pretty easy but i just
want to make sure i see special duty
posting a giant eagle i assume that's a
cause completely johnny eagle correct
absolutely and on my apologies i did not
capture that so we were approached last
week from their management they are
providing the off-duty rate um for
officers that would be during the peak
in which they've seen some theft
that are happening friday to mondays and
that will be during the day and
afternoon shifts but those are
monies that are associated to them
compensating officers yes sir
ms robinson
i mentioned this to you earlier before
the meeting but i did want to say
publicly
that i'm a north bex leader who takes
kids to school at the high school at
various times depending on when they
need to be there and i really have to
say not only the no turn from casting
hampton abroad but the presence of a
police officer has really made a
difference and i loved this morning the
officer who was on duty was chatting up
the kids as they were walking across the
street just i loved it i loved every
second of it not only do i feel safer as
somebody turning from cassingham or from
broad onto cassingham it was just great
to see that community building between
our kids and the police who are on on
duty there so thanks for that thank you
and some that may not know the signage
really was not very specific in allowing
that so we've worked with the engineer's
office to have that corrected okay
thank you
you have something sorry no okay okay so
yes mr martin
yeah i have the fortune of being in that
citizen police academy class and uh the
uh the other members keep trying to talk
me into volunteering to be tased and i
i'm not
i'm not gonna do that but
i tried
my answer is no
completely
uh because i've learned a few things
uh but
but really i wanted to say
that the chief did an introduction there
and you know you said something that
really resonated with me that i wanted
to bring here uh to to city council and
you talked about um the allure and maybe
the misleading allure of statistics you
know
and and i want to say that
that that's something that i think
uh this year especially as we bring on
you know you can see our new auditor uh
mr mcpeak as he sort of helps us
navigate through statistics because we
are not you know we're not trained in a
lot of this and and and when we rely on
an interpretation a lot i'm gonna say
something that's a little embarrassing
here but every two weeks uh we do get
the report here and we see the number of
incidences number of arrests or whatever
we're never quite sure whether to be
happy when arrests go up or down you
know does that mean we arrested more
people does that mean there was more
crime you know i'm not exactly sure
i'm happy to have you here and i'm happy
to have your fresh perspective uh i
encourage you to uh when you come here
to speak with us and make your
presentation to bring your own style and
your experience and in the way that you
feel like you can communicate uh
best with us
and uh help us kind of navigate our way
through you know what's going on the
city here and uh thank you for coming
aboard and
taking this job and being that for us
yes sir and i thank you for the
opportunity
before we move on um and along the vein
of
lies damn lies and statistics um i do
think it's something for us to to be
cognizant of um you know we watch these
figures ebb and flow among these
categories through track theft motor
vehicle theft burglary robbery
um you know some years they're up a
little bit some they're down a little
bit and i think that there's national
anxiety around crime and there's
regional anxiety about crime as much of
it's quite appropriate
but
i do want to celebrate the work of our
agency because i do think it impacts
some of the stats we're seeing here so
we have chief just talked about an
increase in motor vehicle theft that's
something we're seeing the region's
experiencing nationally is experiencing
but we've seen a
and i want to knock on wood as i say
this sort of stuff but we've seen a
reduction in in other types of theft
um we're about break even on burglary
robberies are down now that's just a
small number it's really hard to address
statistical significance from that but
it is something if you're
interacting with members of the
community and there's alarmist sort of
discussion about it i think it's just
important to kind of temper that with
you know our detective bureau is working
hard and what they do is they do and
what when when they and as they work
hard they do great work uh and i think
have been very effective in many
different ways so i think that's helped
us
navigate a time of uncertainty
regionally and nationally so thank you
to you and to to the officers
um we are moving on to
mr price with the rec and parks update
hello everyone yeah nothing nothing to
add to the written report happy to
answer any questions
uh mike before we get to questions will
you talk to us a little bit about the uh
halloween bash
that's happening
yes be happy to with support from the
uh celebrations and events team um
we are going to be putting on a
halloween bash
at jeffrey mansion on
saturday october 29th
it will be an adult event um
we're encouraging people to come in
costume with prizes for uh various
costumes
we're going to have music and food and
drinks and should be a should be a
really good time
thank you mike any questions for mike
uh jess sorry
i'm like
um mike i wanted to let you know i
signed up today for the um family camp
out next friday at jeffrey mansion so i
wanted to give a little pr shout out to
that
as you and mayor kessler myself it's
such a great event and um just want to
remind families because we haven't had
it for two years correct so it's all
right yeah we're excited to sign up
bring that up bring franny we can put
her in a pack and play and i know
i know you have been there many years so
i appreciate the support over here
it is it is really a fun community event
um
it's the first time since since the
pandemic obviously and um
it's a great opportunity to get out and
especially for young families it takes a
lot of time and energy to prepare for a
camping trip and this is sort of
a simplified camping experience and
you're right around the corner if if
maybe the young ones are not quite ready
for it you need to head out that can
happen all the food will be taken care
of it's just bring your tent your
camping supplies and it's a nice
opportunity just to hang with your
with fellow residents get to know some
some new people and
it really is a fun evening right now
knock on wood the weather is
looking really good for it so we'll see
sometimes you are able to really test
those rain flies though yeah some work
better than others yes i've had
are the boy scouts back helping or girl
scouts helping yes we are we are in the
process of reaching out to we haven't uh
since we haven't done this for three
years we've lost a little bit of touch
with some of the girl scout contacts
that we've used with the troop
previously so we're trying to work
through that boy scouts are back in and
we appreciate
all of those groups support they help
make this event go
uh the scouts will be involved in um
overseeing the uh campfires and helping
with food prep as well as the scavenger
hunt the following morning so we really
appreciate all their help
they're also very generous and if you're
having trouble putting up your pop-up
tent which is supposed to be very easy
they will help you
it always it always looks easier on the
box
for mike
thank you mr price oh mike before you
leave yes uh
we've all enjoyed the community events
that you sort of outlined
i know that the amount of work that your
staff and the service staff and your you
yourself
uh put into it is uh often goes unsung
and this season uh this summer more than
any other summer i think probably in the
history of our community i wouldn't say
probably absolutely definitively in the
history of our community has put more uh
more
stress on uh on those employees so thank
you
for rising to the occasion and really
appreciate the hard work and uh the
often thankless work that goes on behind
the scenes thanks mike
mayer i appreciate that i i would uh
reiterate what you said uh ron gould
with our parks maintenance staff and his
team as well as andy and their team are
really take the
take the lead on making those things
happen it doesn't work without all of
their efforts i appreciate all the work
that they put in so thank you
thanks mike
um
mr bayshore
good evening mayor and city council um
tash is my written report i do not have
anything to add to it but be more than
happy to answer any questions
any questions from for andy
uh matt
how's the electric mower working out
um we've been using it um and i think uh
the mayor's gonna have maybe a
small announcement later maybe in his
report um
we've been using it um
so far no major complaints with it
i mean if we're dead dead honest it's
it's uh not quite as comfortable as like
the huge cadillac
all gas version am i right we're just
not quite there it's comfortable the the
biggest complaint i've got so far
is it rides a little rough compared to
the other mowers um i mean it's new
technology you know they are continuing
to improve it um but i mean as far as
performance and you know the outcome of
the mowing it you know it does fine it's
just it rides a little rough for the
guys
so uh we'll but we will still do that
back to back with uh
the try to try the two
smooth it's quiet too
any other questions for
andy thank you andy appreciate it
yes sir
um
that brings us to mr hale do you have
anything for us feature
i do not have a report this evening next
meeting i will
have uh
have the monthly update for you i can
say that we are still doing well
through
um august i actually completed the
report today um but i will have that for
you
next meeting
and that's it
thank you beecher
appreciate it
um all right i have a couple updates for
you all first off i want to welcome our
visitors thanks so much for joining us
this evening
um and i have some news that you guys
aren't aware of but today is natalie's
birthday so natalie happy birthday
more more applause
what does she milk that it's
unbelievable natalie i just want to say
you know we're recording this whole
meeting so if at any time you want to
take off it's your birthday you are
welcome to do that you know that
um
troy markham
helped fry tater tots at the smoke and
fire festival thank you troy for doing
that
matt klingler uh helped volunteer at the
labor day block party cookout as did
lorianne
and
i'm missing account yes you helped and
natalie helped
and sam helped oh my gosh you guys all
helped but what i was about to get to
with matt which you none of you really
accomplished this is cole klingler
as as like
ancillary support was unbelievable but
the rest of you guys were great as well
you were you were like sick
wins like the volunteer one it's
unbelievable so thank you everyone for
all of your help it was really super
appreciated we served like five or six
hundred meals or more
and it was just a well-run smooth
running machine
um and
alex silverman was there for most
everything this that i just mentioned so
alex silverman
uh stood out this year with all of his
work on those community events
um couple things coming up to be aware
of this sunday is jazz in the park
next week is taste of bexley at jeffrey
park
uh
september 28th we have our ask an expert
panel for allie of the future contest
and there's some other stuff on our
calendar there
as mr
mcpeek mentioned we have three quotes in
for human resource audit
um i want to thank you for working on
those and and mark for working on those
as well we're going to be um reviewing
those and choosing
a
vendor to go forward with i'm really
hoping that we have something back from
that prior to our completion of our
budget process in case there's anything
there that impacts our budget
uh thanks to the chief for the broadcast
and ham crossing support
a couple things i think i just want to
highlight with council we have put like
all the bells and whistles in
in terms of what you can possibly put on
an intersection that's not actually
technically in a school zone at
broadcasting so
those no turn signs went up uh earlier
this year they've uh you know they were
it took two years
to design them and get them up there but
they got up there
um the flashing lights to come up as you
get there the lead the lead
pedestrian interval which we've since
added to actually all of our
intersections
there um main street in cassingham is
also has some additional protections to
it it's a little different because it's
already in a school zone essentially
and often has school zone patrol right
there but it also has we are adding as
well
no turn restrictions during those school
hours to that intersection does not
currently have it so i just wanted to be
aware of that
we did have our alley of the future
launch event
it went well video is still being
hobbled together because we had some
technical glitches but we will have
video of that up
and uh the panel discussion comes up on
the 28th
our directors are starting to work on
our budgets it's uh
the most wonderful time of the year so i
know monique will have some more to talk
about that but i just wanted you to know
that we are working on that and
taking notes
as is matt compare notes
see whose are better okay
year of the parks update we've continued
to hone that list of what it means to be
a year of the parks project uh you'll
see some of those in our budget
hopefully we'll get them through our
budget um we're working with
the uh
youth in bexley uh to talk about some
active space concepts um
that's been a lot of that's kind of like
a missing component of this that we've
sort of we've sort of hovered around but
haven't really solidified what that
means so we have some workshops with
middle school high school kids coming up
and
have some really interesting ideas
percolating around that so i'll be
sharing that with you guys in the next
month or so
if you have heard from constituents i
know we got at least one email and if
you if you have eyeballs you've seen
them but the scooters have finally
arrived in bexley uh
they're not prohibited from use on the
streets
but we don't have any sort of
arrangement with any vendors that they
can drop them off on a public sidewalk
in fact we have
restrictions against putting plopping
things on sidewalks
so
um when those it was about a week ago
that they started showing up i think
more in it on mass like they've been
staged here
we have
moved to
when we see them on the sidewalk our
service crews are bringing them in-house
to the service department where they're
getting picked up by those vendors
today one vendor showed up and got a
like nice large shipment of scooters
that worth a service crash
we're letting them know if they want uh
to discuss a permitting process then
we'll discuss it
i am agnostic oh i'm actually not
agnostic i have my own opinions on that
but that's a council decision what about
whether or not you want to allow that
currently it's not allowed so we don't
have a legal route for those to operate
to stage in the city
i'm surprised so none of them are
proactive in actually just coming right
away
yeah we've we've noticed that over the
years interesting
okay
what's that
they get dropped and it happened with
when bird entered the market it was sort
of a ask forgiveness later model
mr klingler just a
couple things is there a potential for
revenue um income with
um
fining or some sort of come get your
scooters uh five dollars fifty dollars
hundred dollars per scooter it might
help incentivize
um
we can look into that i mean i think the
deposit of the actual scooters in a drop
location that's been specified i'm aware
of at least one
i think we might have some traction
there when it comes to a random person
who's used them and dropped them on the
sidewalk
i don't know that we know who that is or
if we're able to find the responsible
individual
no but i mean when we confiscate them
and the vendor wants to come get said
scooter
i was getting that personally my
enforcement tactic is this is a warning
right so
give them a chance to not keep doing it
and if it continues to be a problem
after this week or so then i think
that we could get more stringent
we could just recycle them
i mean we do have code do it for us
again so we could enforce against code
as i understand it you can make money if
you bring them in and plug them in and
they'll pay you so there you go there's
a revenue stream
how many hours
not enough
to just to be clear though one of the
problems we're having is literally
the scooters are charged and dropped off
in these places right because the nature
of the business is that people rent them
and then they just leave them wherever
they're done with them so that is
you know somewhat out of everybody's
control but certainly the drop point the
drop point is well within yeah so they
have drop points established near
capital at least near the high school
um and some other spots so if i mean
again we've we have sent those
communications out to them
um yeah
we're i have my my proclivity is first
couple times has been after the doubt
and then it's not bounded out so
um i know that from previous experience
operators were surprised to learn that
they weren't in the city of columbus so
we'll were
they know that now because they have to
go to the service garage to get them so
yes
monique
chief lewis since you come to us from
university of louisville i assume the
scooters were well used on campus
what are some of the safety concerns
that you've noticed regarding scooters
so this goes back to
all three institutions i've come from
where the scooter is significant issue
institutions cities would enter into
agreements
they were then compensated however
geofencing
where they would be deposited over time
would be started to become more and more
of an issue
scooters would be left in front of
entrances etc so we got to the point
where they were disbanded and so
keeping them away from so sidewalk use
those types of things being limited um
not
having the ability to be on the sidewalk
and then working directly with those
companies to make sure that they
couldn't drop them off within those
areas from that geo fencing because they
can all be programmed as such
um what andy was any other scooter talk
no i don't talk all right what andy was
alluding to was havenwood park uh is
going to be a zero emissions landscape
park
so we will be using only battery-powered
equipment and havenwood
our mower our blowers our uh string
trimmer so we'll be our first park that
is a zero emissions park
um i think that's what he was probably
alluding to about the mower but i just
want you guys to know that and we'll
have like a little plaque there
do you mind if i correct you a little
bit there that yeah
the park will not be a zero emissions it
will actually remove
emissions from that's true yes you've
got the canopy yep
and we are powering our our battery
powered equipment with wind yeah exactly
sorry but you know
i speak for the trees here yeah plant
biology where will the scooters go
yeah it's a good point
uh have some photos from the past couple
weeks oh the the
cleanup of the river for rapid five was
really cool uh there were like
100 150 200 volunteers
and
we've done some we've done river
cleanups before we go in the water but
usually it's like mike price and i as
the weird outliers there was like dozens
of people in the water like pulling
tires out and all sorts of stuff it was
really neat
um
and amy acton is directing that
initiative now so uh that was exciting
i've got some stats on the cookout
services that have occurred in the past
few weeks and i wanted to share this
photo that was taken uh i i'm driving
i pulled over and i legally took this
photo i legally not illegally took this
photo uh as i was going into work uh one
morning but uh the deer population is
thriving in bexley
um i just thought that was a pretty neat
shot so any any questions
a couple things um i see you haven't you
met with the morpsy any
any update on linkus
i don't know
oh yes so i do have a updated link
that's link us um was
at this point in time a little bit
predicated on a levy issue that coda has
has decided not to pursue okay so it's
not that it's on i wouldn't say it's on
pause i don't really know what they
would say um i just know that there was
there was kind of a strong push leading
up to potentially going after levy they
determined that they weren't going to do
that so i'm not really sure what the
timing looks like in the future
okay
the whole initiative has been a little
bit quiet i think since then okay
and then i just want to say thank you
for all your efforts with the broad
casting ham intersection if you need
our help in any way we do thank you
we've got some volunteer shirts on order
right
okay and we've got some time slots
cole's uh cole's youth medium cool
good to know thank you any other
questions yep
mayor i think you have uh um an employee
who is going to head out of state to
attend the conference that you wanted us
thank you so much you are the best
um elizabeth ellman has uh
asked to attend a conference in iowa
did i get that right natalie i'm looking
at you okay um it is a sustainability
conference she's been asked to present
at it
um in true sustainable fashion she would
be driving her prius from here to there
so the
extra cost of uh i think a couple
hundred dollars for potentially for gas
above and beyond what it would be to
otherwise be a conference so
anytime we have any out of state travel
council needs to voice vote approve it
on any employee so i would ask that
council approve that
um
and if you need any other information
from me i can get it for you
so move to approve the um attendance
that out of state conference second
all in favor say aye
aye all opposed same side
thank you thank you for remembering that
good
all right thank you thank you mr markham
all right so we're on to the consent
agenda
we have on the consent agenda the
meeting minutes from august 21st 2022
city council meeting and resolution
6-20-22
6-22 wow
adopting the 2022 recommendations of the
bexley tax and senate review council
regarding tax abated properties in the
city of bexley that was introduced by ms
lamke
thank you
any comments or questions from city
council on the consent agenda
any comments or questions from the
audience on the consent agenda
if not
uh motion to adopt the consent agenda
second
all in favor say aye
aye aye all opposed same sign
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all right thank you mr official all
right now we move on to third readings
third reading of ordinance 29-22 to
appropriate ten thousand dollars from
the water fund and ten thousand dollars
from the sewer fund to pay overtime for
the remainder of 2022 introduced by ms
lamke
there we go um thank you this is the
third reading obviously uh given that
we've had some more breaks and some more
assistance after hours and unexpected
flooding conditions
it's become necessary to appropriate an
additional 10 000 from the water fund
and 10 000 from the sewer fund to help
pay for those expenses
are there any questions
do you have some action on this
yes i motion to adopt ordinance
29-22
second
motion made by ms lampie seconded by mr
klingler any comments or questions from
city council
any comments or questions from the
audience
mr mcpeek
mr marcelino yes miss fibal
miss lampke yes miss robinson yes mr
klingler yes mr markham yes and miss sod
yes
motion passes
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all right moving on to second reading
second reading of ordinance 30-22 to
approve the purchase of property located
at 2838
to 2840 del mar drive bexley ohio to
appropriate 105 thousand dollars from
the capital fund for expenses associated
with the purchase of said property and
to declare an emergency introduced by ms
lamke
thank you
as previously iterated our service
department is short on site storage so
there has been an opportunity to enter
into a contract to purchase some
additional property and to
accommodate some additional site storage
mayor do you have an update at all on
any of the um
any of the
property or the
so
um
just this afternoon where we received a
phase one on the property which i
haven't had a chance to review we've
also ordered the appraisal uh that will
be completed prior to the next council
meeting so
um we'll verify that's good to go and if
there are any other questions
well we also inspected the property
with our just in-house um
obviously we intend to tear it down but
we wanted to double check that there
weren't any sort of like glaring
conditions that we might need to be
aware of it did involve me crawling
through a basement full of cobwebs
indiana jones style
and the staircase was missing like half
of the steps and as i came back up it
one of them came out from underneath me
but there is not a workers comp claim
because i'm just fine i quickly grabbed
the handrails and scrambled up
so i was that was an exciting day for me
long story short
it's all good
did you phase one environmental guy was
like
he was impressed well you have a chance
to read all of those reports and
inspections prior to our yes
well there's 502 pages on the phase one
but you're welcome to read every last
one of them
any questions from
council
all right all right moving on to the
second reading of ordinance 31-22 to
establish a special fund designated the
stanbury avenue and chelsea avenue
improvements fund to record all revenue
and expenses associated with the
stanbury and chelsea improvements
project to appropriate five thousand one
hundred seventy eight i'm sorry five
million one hundred seventy eight
thousand three hundred forty two dollars
from this fund to pay for the cost of
the project to authorize transfers from
the water sewer road and road an alley
funds of one hundred thirty seven
thousand three hundred thirty dollars
sixty thousand seven hundred and forty
two dollars and sixty six thousand
twenty four dollars respectively to the
stanbury and chelsea project introduced
by ms lamke
thank you as previously stated chelsea
and stanbury were chosen due to
those two streets having higher
instances of water main breaks
and this ordinance
formally sets up the funds so that we
can receive the funds from the state
mayor is there anything that you'd like
to add to this ordinance
okay am i moving on
any questions from council
okay third reading uh i'm sorry second
reading of ordinance 32-22
to certify special assessments for the
repair of sidewalks and or other work
required where the work was not done by
the owner after being ordered by the
city in accordance with beckles bexley
code section
1490.15 b4a or bexley code section
1492.04 b1 and it was necessary to do
the work and assess the owner introduced
by ms lamke
thank you
it looks like we have an amendment to
consider
my guess is that some folks may have
paid
from the last reading as you will note
given the attachment on the agenda
section 2
speaks to
slightly larger assessments that have
been broken up over a three-year period
to give more flexibility and payment
part three
is for code enforcement work that had to
be done uh
um so we have had to assess for that
uh mayor
if you can pull up the proposed amended
ordinance that would be great
where do we see
um
was there a markup from the previous one
hold on
i'm not remembering this amendment does
it make sense to perhaps amend it
i mean you can amend it tonight does it
make sense to mend it next time because
some other people might play
yeah i'm fine with that yeah we will
need to so i yeah i was usually the
third reading is where you really want
to amend it okay
that's fine with me
any questions from council
and i'll make sure i review what those
changes are for you
the next one
okay so then we are moving on to second
reading of ordinance 33-22
to authorize supplemental appropriations
for calendar year 2022 introduced by ms
lamke just mentioning amended has one
and a future reference
that's what you say thank you you're
right i could be wrong thank you i'm
getting all the second readings tonight
i like to use extra m's sometimes
depends on how many amendments there
that's right
um mayor do you want us walk us through
um any
proposed changes we could do the same
thing and uh we could amend at our next
one yes because yeah i'm not so hollow
we're not gonna have further amendments
but beecher
has brought some additional amendments
as have i um
so
we have quite a few we've talked already
about fuel right we talked about fuel we
talked about
the refuse contract as it relates to
both fuel and also timing of the
contract building department
professional
um
and then we've i know that i've
discussed with you before that our
outside legal in general is diminishing
um for a variety of reasons um
some there's been some coveted 19
related expenses there's also been some
um additional zoning expenses
city attorney uh
mr fishel
contract went up a little bit this year
that was discussed during the budget but
it looked like it didn't make the final
budget so we're a little bit short in
that line item didn't go up that much go
up that much and the other other thing
is that
part of his 2020 his final 2021 retainer
got paid this year and as i said with
refuse the same thing applies i really
want to clean up our books so that we're
paying
each calendar year appropriately to
those expenses and so this does buffer
it so that we're not carrying over his
expenses to next year
into next year's budget numbers
essentially so there are a couple of
more of those going on um actually legal
is another example of that right in the
lineup prior
section six is a little unusual
we uh
have a new
we we had a prior mechanic to part the
city and a new mechanic come in
and if andy's still on the call maybe he
can
clarify this a little further
previously the mechanic was paid out of
the
maintenance and forestry line item
and after reviewing it
andy felt that it made the most sense uh
or at least this is how it was relayed
to me by beecher to pay him out of the
street department salaries and wages
um and so that budget line item needs to
be moved over so we're unencumbering one
and incumbent into another if that makes
sense it's kind of a cleanup
sewer fund salaries and wages
quite honestly i thought that was our
previous ordinance so i need beecher or
andy to explain that to me
andy are you there
i'll have to come back to you guys with
that one yeah
um i'm here ben okay
i know oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry
i
andy i i now remember that that and
jeffrey mansion and the street lighting
department
when uh
when the wages were calculated
the uh the new bump up and the steps was
not reflected is that right andy so you
understand
that is right and then me and beecher
went through um some of the employees
job classifications and we had some guys
kind of move around and they never got
switched over to
uh the the correct you know
department so so that's what kind of
what you're seeing there is
nothing has really changed it's just
i've had some guys move around from
different departments and and that
that's some of what's what you're seeing
right now
so there's a corresponding decrease in
other departments
yeah
okay
we'll get some more information on that
because this is all like this is today i
was absorbing this but the the
jeffrey mansion wages i know and street
lighting
are examples of where
the employees pay
was carried over based upon the existing
step and they actually went up in a step
this year under the union contract so
that increase wasn't captured in our
personnel budget is my understanding it
would be nice let's make sure the future
is present for the third reading of this
because that's a beacherism and then the
final one is
a request this is this this one would
chalk under a new request that we
increase the human resources contract so
that we can execute that audit
um
we have
the lowest bid is 6500 the second lowest
bit is 8 500 so this is kind of a
placeholder for that
pending matt and i talking about it
um
so that is those are the changes i know
there's quite a few of them but
hopefully they get us through
the city attorney uh
twenty thousand dollars
how much of that then is
last year's
do you know about seven thousand of that
is last year's um and then
the 13 is to reflect both an increase
and also
making sure that we're paying it all in
one year and then next year would be a
clean full so that 13 000 then is an
estimate to get us through the rest of
the year then we budgeted somewhere
north of 68 000 a little bit more than
68 000 the actual retainer was 75. okay
and then that's would be reflected in
what we look at budget numbers this year
that
okay
any other questions mr marcellino
what was the initial budget for outside
legal i apologize if you know that
outside legal was 50 000
it seems just extremely high for 35 000.
so that's strictly just due to these
to the appeals or is it is it publicly
it's a lot of things um
the first off we notoriously under
budget are legal every year we come back
about this time of year and say you know
we tried our best we told all of our
staff don't call the attorneys unless
you need to so i think you know mark
reviews all those bills as well this
for several years now we've had this
exact appropriation issue about this
time of year where
you know we come to budget you guys take
a look at it you say hey can we like
pull back on this number and try not to
spend it we try very hard not to spend
money on legal but we also
want to operate you know
our
you know make sure that we're operating
appropriately and that we're
properly disposing of our duties as we
can so i think and mark i don't know if
you want to speak more too yeah i mean i
think that what what happens every year
in my experience is that there is
hopeful
thinking that we won't have to spend as
much on zoning matters and that's what
it comes down to i mean
as you uh well
are aware not just the cases that come
in front of
council that end up in court but
more than a handful of cases that go
before b zap and lesser extent arb
are
contentious with unique legal issues
because of bexley and we rely on the
expertise of our zoning attorney that is
almost the entire reason for that there
are so some other examples again i don't
know how much is considered into the
budget but there are some things
that
my office does that are outside the
contract that might be a workers comp
case here or there i know we did have
some expenses this year on a particular
workers comp case that we prevailed on
eventually um but i know yeah
so there's some things like that as well
we also had a um
we had arbitration i mean there's like
there were several and and i think we
had an arbitration too that we some of
that i don't even want to muddy the
waters because i think some of that we
can reclassify as arp money because of
the nature of that arbitration
so that's actually not even captured
here but i'm just explaining like some
of the those are some of the things that
happened that that guide that
staff does consult routinely with a lot
of zoning matters to make sure that
we're properly processing applications
um we try our best to use you know to
use
lower cost options legally as we can but
things can get pretty complicated pretty
quickly i mean we've just discussed two
cases that have a deep history and a lot
of complications to them so
final question is this uh estimated
throughout the remainder of the year or
is this to catch up on bills that we uh
estimate it to the remainder of the year
thank you
we're good we are caught up this is us
looking out for it and worrying that you
know we're
gonna have these monthly costs
and hoping it doesn't i'll have to get
spent that's for sure a rough use
contract is 220 000 can you just remind
me
why that's such a big increase
yes and um i was fresh on that three
weeks ago so i'm going to try my best to
recapture that um two things happen we
have a we had a fuel surcharge because
of the excess fuel cost so rumpke can
build that back to us and that
greatly increased our cost
the other piece is we are
we paid a portion of last year's in this
year
and
that then depleted the number
the rest for the rest of the year and i
wanted us to get through the end of the
year and then start clean next year so
we're not doing this every year so you
want to pay 2022 with two thousand
twenty two dollars
and if you scroll to the top of this
um
all the way please
yeah i that has my name as the sponsor i
think that should be changed i believe
honey claim key is the sponsor monique
says she doesn't want any piece of this
now i think
i think
in all seriousness so there's um you
know a couple things to think about with
this some of these are not general fund
dollars some are we do budget
we actually put a
a placeholder in our budget for excess
not appropriations but unexpected
appropriations um to to try to buffer
some of this
um
in addition to that obviously we've seen
a lot of overall just kind of
inflationary type expenditures that have
kind of pushed us the edge we do have
items that we have not spent any money
on as you've seen the auditor just
talked about about six hundred thousand
dollars of
underspending so we could easily if we
wanted to kind of prove the point say
well here's some areas we're
unappropriating that's absolutely
something we could do if that would make
you guys more comfortable from a
rhetorical perspective
we are going to be net lower than our
expenditures that we projected for sure
including what we're talking about here
but this does sort of reshuffle some of
that expenditure
as you go back and and get some more
detail on that that refuse thing if you
can break that out for what is the fuel
surcharge versus what is the
that would be good i think absolutely
thank you
mr fishel
okay so i believe we are now on to our
first reading
of resolution 7-22
accepting the amounts and rates as
determined by the budget commission and
authorizing the necessary tax levies and
certifying them to the county auditor
introduced by ms lamke
thank you
as the
resolution states the franklin county
budget commission
but the budget commission has certified
the action and they have put together
an estimate with the auditor
and proposed
10 mil tax limitation
um
i don't know if there's any questions
given that this there is a first reading
but
matt do you or may or want to add
anything
um i will say that i talked to beedger
about this and i thought i had great
notes to
make more sense out of it um so i'm
gonna circle back but i mean this is
just very much a procedural approval um
based on um
the annual processes that exist so i'll
i'll make sure i've got the the nodes i
again cannot track them down now
yeah go for it so basically the auditor
takes the all the value of property in
bexley it applies it against the
different voted millages and then has an
effective rate and this is
kind of laying out how that effective
rate impacts us and where the money's
coming from great thank you any
questions from council
okay then we are on to ordinance 35-22
for first reading to amend section 1060
of the bexley uh ordinances in order to
require recycling service to be provided
at commercial institutional and
multi-family properties within the city
of bexie this is intro introduced by ms
fibel since it falls under her committee
mr mayor you want to take us through
what this is uh doing i think uh
i'm pretty excited to see
this
i am as well and so thank you mr
president we've been working on this
ordinance for
troy what three or four years
you know
longer than that uh
my hair had just started to turn a
little gray
i think when we started talking about
this so i but the reason i think i don't
is i think we we took a lot of extra
time and a consideration with this
because it really does involve
our businesses
our multi-family housing the the people
that run that and i think
uh as with a lot of the legislation that
that we have
put in here over the last few years i
think it it really bears the
responsibility of taking time to to do
it right think it out and communicate
with people so go ahead all right thank
you mr president so this
ordinance as proposed would require the
service of recycling at commercial
institutional multi-family properties in
the city
and um it's something we've been working
on as we said for several years we've
looked at other cities throughout the
country and how they have
uh rolled out similar
programs and we think we've come up with
a pretty special formula to address this
in a way that has the lowest possible
impact to our businesses and our
landlords
and and rent and tenants and uh greatest
impact from an environmental perspective
so
i'll give you the highlights and then i
would love for you to take a moment to
digest it and at our next council
meeting
hoping we can go more in depth in the
presentation
um
know that there is a spreadsheet behind
this that kind of has profiled every
single
commercial residential and institutional
property in the city of bexley in order
to calculate what this would mean for
every single property owner and what
you know what this really
would financially potentially
mean for them as well
so um
at its essence it requires at a minimum
a 96 gallon recycling toter be available
at every
property that falls under the ordinance
um and then if a property exceeds a
certain size or a certain type of use
it could scale up to a larger container
than 96 gallon but 96 gallon total is
actually that's our largest recycling
residential toter so you have an idea of
what that looks like
those would be the majority of the
addresses served they would serve the
majority of the addresses and what's
interesting about that is if you think
about where commercial properties
primarily lie on main street and north
cassidy and also livingston but
specifically main street in north
cassidy
all of those
most all of those properties back onto
an alley
that are being serviced by rumpke on
mondays right so
we were able to negotiate potentially
with grumpy i say potentially because
we're going to get to that in a second
a rate that is radically more favorable
than what currently commercial or is
currently commercially available on one
offs and the reason this is so
meaningful is if i as a business owner
want to start recycling
i have to individually negotiate with a
contractor and they might not have
anyone else doing recycling
on their route nextly so they might have
to send out a truck
especially from wherever else they are
that has recycling to pick up and
service my recycling and so as we've
talked to business owners we've heard
you know
astounding figures north of 100 a month
to service a toter like what we're
talking about rumpke has
given us a provisional rate of 12 a
month for those businesses for 96 gallon
toter
it is a better rate than they can get
from what we've heard anywhere else by
far
so we think the power of this ordinance
is that it provides like a single
uniform
pricing model
uniform date of pickup for most of our
businesses and then as you get larger so
you start to think about like um say a
giant eagle
or
a capital university bexley city schools
or you think about um
a multi-family project like bexley
village apartments um that then gets
into a larger scale where you're talking
about dumpsters and to give an example
back to square
is serviced by a recycling dumpster
we've been serviced by one for several
years
we think we would save money on this
program because we would create a
uniform rate we would bid the whole the
whole city
and we would bid not just those 96
gallon toters but we would bid
a variety of receptacle sizes that are
outlined in section e here so for 96
gallon toters four yard dumpsters six
eight and ten
um city attorney and i have not yet
discussed the timing of this whether the
bid happens before the ordinance gets
passed or after
so we've got to talk we need to talk
about this and i want to fully disclose
i don't expect this to be a three
reading ordinance necessarily
you know it would be wonderful to target
january 1st that is how it's written
i don't think we should rush this we
have had early business
socializations of this we need to
refresh those socializations because we
put them on pause
during covid and i wanted to hear from
you guys before we went too much further
down that path
um
it would be charged along with their
water bill similar to the way that ours
bars are
from an administrative perspective it
would require some additional
inputs to be put into our system some
additional work
and there's also a carve out so if you
are a business that produces a ton of
cardboard but nothing else
you would potentially be able to apply
to only do cardboard recycling because
that would be the most impactful for
your business the process for that
is that our alternate recycling program
would be reviewed by the esac's
executive committee that's the the three
people on the esec that are appointed uh
and confirmed by council
and if
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it was if there was a disagreement if
the business or the institution felt
that they were
not fairly heard by the esac executive
committee it creates an appeal a small
little appeal body of the president
council service
chair of council and the
auditor sorry i forgot to tell you about
that um
exactly so um
that's kind of the brought out brush
outline of it there's a lot of details
in here take a look at it
many of some of these like more nikki
knacky details are really based upon our
existing utility statutes it's not
anything really that surprising
i'm happy to answer any questions
i got a lot to say
i'm going to stand
up use your gavel
yeah i'm not going to use the gavel but
i'm going to stand up because i'll tell
you what uh
one of the things that i love about
working on this city council last few
years is that we are environmentally
progressive and that means a lot to me
but also that we have made bexley not
only a leader in environmental
movement but we are also business
friendly and i think that's important
i think that's important that it can
happen that people say that that's a
a
decision that you have to make one way
or another and i know we've got a
dispatch reporter here and if you read
the dispatch today it's going to have an
article in there that says giant eagle
corporation has now gone
dumped all their plastic bags they are
not not dumped they are not using
they've eliminated all their plastic
bags and we were ahead of that we were
ahead of that by several years and if
you look at the proposal that the
corporate giant eagle is done it looks
very similar to the plan that we put
together in cooperation with gianni over
here so
i'm sorry okay
yep absolutely
i love this plan and i joke a little bit
about
my hair turning great but you know when
i first joined city council
i was transitioning between houses i was
living in one of our large multi-family
units and people came up and they said
you are on city council and i said yes
and i heard from person after person
that lived in there and said why can't
we recycle in this apartment building
because we had so many people living
there and these people had to take their
paper and their
their aluminum cans everything that was
recycled they had to put in a big giant
dumpster that just it hurt your heart to
see yeah and it hurt you know the people
there that go like why can't we recycle
our materials and we know the other
people in bexley are recycling their
materials so i am i'm really glad to see
this i'm really glad to see that
that we're doing it right but also that
those people uh all that all that
material that will now be
diverted from the landfill to to be
recycled and i also love the
thoughtfulness in this that some
businesses are different than other
businesses some businesses just have a
whole bunch of bottles you know and so
why do they need you know to have a all
you know one plan fits all kind of thing
where they're not going to utilize that
and that what this is going to allow
them to do is create their own recycling
plan bring it to the esac and have them
take a look at it and say yes and i'll
tell you i just
the plastic bag ban the food composting
program this recycling program it just
it just i think is incredible that we
have a community with this many people
that is going to move the needle like
this on on some of this material so wait
for that feed on the street
[Laughter]
all right and so i'll open up for other
questions or comments and i will sit
down
you guys come on
sam thanks uh any costs of the city on
this
is there an increase in cost of the city
for this program the cost to the city no
it will have additional administrative
uh
burden in terms of the water department
which currently
tracks those refuse fees but i believe
that we have capacity for that okay um
is there any uh consideration towards
requiring businesses to
recycle and basically forcing them to
recycle if they're going to
still because otherwise we're just
giving the option but they still can
obviously say we don't want to do it but
is there any thought towards that so far
no so it's banded about a little bit but
this is this is modeled after our
residential program where everybody gets
the ability to do it um
in this instance i think it'll be even i
think it'll be more discreet or more
sorry
that's not the way i'm looking for just
more discernible those businesses that
they are getting charged for this
service is separate from other refugee
services and
therefore i think
hopefully that will further motivate
them to use it they'll have that
receptacle they'll be paying for it
and
hopefully they'll use it if you build it
they will come the capacity is there we
haven't gotten to mandatory recycling
yet as a community
uh troy is happy to have that
conversation with you when you're ready
for it
yeah and i know i said i'd stop talking
but this actually is going to reduce
reduce the costs uh for some businesses
because some businesses out there are
actually spending their own money uh
very co a lot of their money to recycle
because they want to recycle and this is
going to give them a much more
affordable opportunity and an
infrastructure to do that more
efficiently
all right i really will stop talking
that spikes a question for me then how
many of our current businesses
recycle and pay for those programs
so we don't have perfect data on that we
tried to survey them and we had we
received very few responses
um on that we have incidental
information so we you know we know of uh
first off our ins let's start with our
institutions because that's a piece of
this too so that's all of our
educational institutions our places of
worship
i believe that our educational
institutions are all recycling
in some way shape or form
so that's good news
in in the multi-family complex arena i
know that the alexander does recycling i
know that we are not multi-family we're
a commercial that does recycling there
are definitely some singles there are
some some
single media recycling uh efforts going
on cvs starbucks do cardboard recycling
um giuseppe's at times has done glass
bottle recycling i'm not sure if that's
still true so i we have incidental
information but we don't have holistic
information
if we could guess based on the surveying
that we have done we would guess that it
would probably be less than ten percent
is this is this something we're going to
be working with um the chamber on
yep so we have engaged the chamber
previously about it and we will be as
well with with this effort
what we found interestingly through that
is like the really
excited businesses come forward so far
typically in this and we have had a
little less
feedback from those that are like for
example our single-use plastics ban as
we've socialized that
and like we had businesses come forward
that were really embracing of it but not
a whole lot of those concerned about it
until after the passage of the ordinance
but hopefully somehow we get i think we
will get more robust feedback with this
because it's a more proactive i mean
there's a factual fee associated with it
okay then i believe we have one more
first reading which is ordinance
36-22 authorizing the mayor and auditor
to sign a consent and hold harmless
agreement on behalf of the city bexley
of bexley with the bexley city schools
regarding improvements made upon within
the city-owned right-of-way adjacent to
stanwood avenue introduced by mr
klingler
yeah thanks mark i appreciate that mayor
could you um
fill in some details on this for us
yeah so the
and what this is missing is an
attachment showing what this is it's a
plaque that would be next to tennis
courts installed um
within technically a right-of-way but in
property you would typically consider
school property
um so that the the correct approval
authorities through city council getting
a consent hold harmless within the right
of way the plaque doesn't say kessler's
courts does it uh klingle it's the
klingler
wingler
no i'm just kidding all right wingler
marcelino quartz i think it's called the
plaque uh is it horizontal on the ground
is it like vertical is there like a
mount what i will get you an image i
believe yeah we need to have some
attachments to this ordinance
we'll get you an image okay
fair enough in this in seriousness this
would be
just for one plaque or
it says install certain plaques and
signage so that's in the future if they
went into soft signage believe it or
specified plaques to signage
do you have those no i don't that was
the problem when i when i when i drafted
this ordinance i did not have all the
details um so there you'll see so
there's some parcel numbers that need to
be filled in and so there will be
additional information
you're correct though it should limit it
to the plaque or plaques
attached here too so we'll make it clear
it's not an apples to apples thing by
any stretch of the imagination
but we did city council when kitties
wanted to have that second door that
opened and you know so it wasn't cold
when they opened that was in the city
right away and we did something similar
to that
or yeah we
council's given staff the authority to
do that with sprinkler systems i mean
there's all sorts of stuff that gets
this is different yeah verticality will
get you exactly what it looks like
make sure that you know there aren't
sharp edges you know that sort of thing
okay
and the the language in that basically
says exactly what it says it's okay for
you to do it and if we just you know if
we
take it out while we're doing work
within our own property then
oops
and you guys
know that that's the legal explanation
right mark yes absolutely
all right well that ends
that ends for first readings as our
action i think there might be action on
one of the tabled ordinances we do have
some action don't we yes
can i do a quick update in 1422 doesn't
require action
yeah solar there was an arb arb voted to
recommend it to bzap which is not a
requirement but b zap wanted that and
we're glad that they did that so vsap
will be discussing that i believe next
week
ordinance 4121
do we need to take that off the table
we're looking to remove that from the
table tonight ordinance 41-21 second
all in favor say aye hi hi all opposed
same sign
all right what's going on with this it's
so this um
ordinance 41-21
is um just to remind everybody it was
the accepting the proposed donation of
the columbia place private street in the
columbia place subdivision by the city
of bexley to make it a public street
everybody probably kind of remembers
that to give you geography it's right
behind us here right behind city hall
is
those residences that we're looking to
to make that donation to make that a
public street
um
originally
the proposal
that was originally proposed we needed
to talk through a little bit more and
some things have changed from legal
representation so now the residents are
representing themselves and i believe
it's seven
residents that are a part of this mayor
kessler
nine nine okay so nine residences are a
part of this and to kind of give you a
visual it's um
the
driveway that's off of south or short
brighton which is right behind city hall
here
is where the street comes in and it's
considered private so since it is
considered private um there's some
things that need to be
kept up to date in
this area so there's some negotiations
that the residents have come back and
mayor kessler
has gotten creative on so i'm gonna let
them take it from here
but that kind of gets you guys started
as to where we were and where we are and
what we're looking to do
with these um nine
residencies
thank you jess um so
when we last spoke about this um
it was brought to our attention by our
city engineer after we had looked at the
water sewer and street infrastructure
that a
there was an issue with the ramps
along the
curbs
at
along the sidewalk sorry at columbia
place
and i'm going to pull it up in google
maps just so that this can be made a
little more clear
and specifically
ada requirements require that there be
no more than what's called a two percent
grade on the on the cross section
of a sidewalk
and in columbia place
because the sidewalks
and portions here
are right at the curb and they come
against
aprons the cross slope is greater than
two percent quite a bit more than two
percent um and that cross slope is not
ada compliant and when that issue was
raised i think we all said look hold on
let's let's talk about this because city
engineer quote at the time was forty
four thousand dollars
um and there's also a fire hydrant that
needs to be moved at seventy five
hundred dollars so it's worth a little
bit of fifty thousand dollars
and so after that last council
discussion uh it was
tabled we went back to columbia place
and we suggested that
council may consider this
if the property owners agreed to pay for
those changes
and
they have considered that some more and
um we
discussed some options and one of the
options we discussed with them is the
possibility that maybe
the infrastructure could be
re could be brought up to uh spec
and that the cost of that infrastructure
could be assessed to the properties over
a 10-year period
and the property owners have agreed to
that um we are waiting on some updated
numbers for two reasons one inflation
has occurred more since then
and then number two our city engineers
come back with some cost saving ideas
where he thinks we can meet code
and not have as dramatic of a
inter intervention on some of that
infrastructure
so
at the next council meeting we should
have updated figures uh the next council
meeting would be the last time council
could pass this ordinance as tabled no
new ordinance could be created it's not
like there's some gigantic rush but we
may or may not so we may or may not have
all that information in advance and be
able to do that it's up to you guys
what i would love to talk about in
principle
is how comfortable council is with the
concept of
accepting the infrastructure
if it's brought up to speed and a and
then b
um
spreading those costs out over 10 years
so in that instance the city fronts the
funds
and then spreads it out over a period of
time to the property owners not unlike
the way that we do with sidewalks and
some other things mr mcpeak you got a
comment oh yeah i was just
would we talk about like total
um i'll say quote unquote cost of
ownership
um i mean you've talked about the ada
requirements you've talked about the
fire hydrant but then obviously there's
pavement there's
all these other things
what what
would be important to me and i think
that council should understand is just
holistically what's the total cost of
ownership and then when
when are some of those other
assets or
improvements you know slated to be
improved
um i think that that you know i think
it's important to look at something like
this holistically so we did that and i
can i can dust those figures off
we also did a tax productivity analysis
that looked at how much
these properties were contributing to
the street levy
and how much they were contributing to
our capital funds of the water and sewer
department and i think
not advocating for those property owners
but i will tell you the argument that
they made
um and i expect them to be at the next
meeting was that um you know they're
paying in the street levy they're paying
the water sewer capital fund
but they're not receiving any of the
benefits of those funds and to their
point those levies and those capital
charges did not exist when they first
put together the columbia place
subdivision
and many of them felt
many of them have expressed that they
did not realize that they purchased a
private drive property now
that's cavity and tour buyer beware all
that good stuff but that is what they
said so
just refreshing kind of where we were
that yeah
all right so are we talking about
so we're talking about a couple of
things here one is that this is going to
expire and go away and so now we're
talking about
maybe the reintroduction of a a similar
one that would be modified with what
we're kind of talking about here tonight
or it could be voted on at the next
meeting it's just past the next meeting
it goes past the one year mark you're
telling me so you're telling us about
still the potential to amend this and
pass this at the next meeting so there's
amended version uh
sorry that i had started to pull up
it's the amendment itself is fairly
simple
and it
and it it could be probably further
wordsmith
but that under this amendment
it would suggest it would say that the
the property owners would be assessed
for the cost associated with bringing it
up to compliance but that's not exactly
true right they're not actually being
assessed these costs are we giving we're
creating an estimate and then spreading
out that payment or we we are assessing
the actual costs over the years the
actual cost so it would have created a
mechanism that the actual costs once
incurred then get assessed there's a
second ordinance down the road okay that
finalizes what those costs were and
assesses them to the property owners
okay
other questions ms robinson just to
clarify are we talking about all nine
properties would have to have some sort
of adjustment made or is this okay
yes to some degree
now
the earlier the earlier engineers
estimate
some of the properties had a lot more
work that needed to be done not because
the properties were not maintained but
just because due to the topography sure
the way that this is redrafted it would
share the expenses evenly among the
property owners so it wouldn't be like
hey this person happened to have had a
different topography than this person so
it cost them more and not them that's
the way it's drafted and the owners have
all said yeah we'd be cool with that
they've said that in principle
they we need to go through this draft
with them and make sure they fully
understand it wait they haven't seen the
final figure
okay neither have we
mr marcelino
what's the benefit to the city here to
take this because in a way you know i'm
seeing this is kind of like giving
somebody a dog great you get a dog nice
now the other thing but now you got to
care for it now you have to spend money
on it you have to you have to um take
care of it over time and so i guess i'm
a bit concerned here because there's now
this newfound interest of here we want
to give you this land is there you know
some paving coming up that they don't
want to be responsible for what are what
are we really looking at here and i
don't mean to question their their
motives too much but i just want to know
why now because for many years this has
been a private drive there's a benefit
to being a private drive no traffic no
anything you can just ride around in
your your cul-de-sac there but
what's the benefit to us at this point i
can tell you why now i can
i really would want them to speak again
to what
you know to their logic but like why now
i think
from my experience because i got the
phone calls
was like wait a second this is a private
drive like they didn't have a homeowners
association for them they had all these
they had tax liabilities that no one
knew about so they they had all these
new owners that didn't have knowledge of
the setup and they scrambled to figure
it out and then they started calling us
and saying wait a second we're paying
capital fees but we're not you're not
maintaining this infrastructure
why aren't we getting the streets plowed
why aren't we getting our leaves picked
up
so i know why they reached out you know
i
what's the benefit to the city
there is not
a
i would not say there's a financial
benefit to the city it's a question that
you guys need to determine whether or
not you feel
that it is right and just for them to
receive to use the capital funds that
they gave give to the city for their
infrastructure
or
whether fair is fair they purchased into
a private drive and you know that it's
on them so it's your guys's decision uh
i'm trying to facilitate the
conversation i will tell you
from an administrative perspective i
have spent 10 years answering phone
calls from residents of columbia place
about snow snow leaf and maintenance and
the my my successor will continue to
deal with that and that's a minor
harassment and it's fine you're going to
keep getting the same question it is unu
it is unlike any other private
development that we have in the city and
so that is the one thing that compelled
us as we talked about it early on in
this is that there's no other private
drive that doesn't have a gate
that has sidewalks that feels like it's
part of the community kids bike on it
and where they readily agree to make it
open and part of the community i don't
know of any other pud that would readily
agree to be a public street open to the
community so that is a differentiating
factor whether or not you're compelled
by that or you think it's good that's up
to you guys yeah
and i i was just going to highlight some
history i believe that we had all this
going before sam
came so um out of respect of that we've
had a little more history here as a
council listening to the residents
prior legal
um
talking about the other establishments
within bexley that are private that are
different because each one's unique
i had the same reaction that you're
having right now
and
i think that
just with a little bit more history
um
i'm not going to say it changed my mind
but it just opened up
you know
my way of thinking a little bit more
um
just from the history that was shared so
maybe with this we have those residents
come back and speak or
we can we do a little bit more of
highlighting the because once we do it
for one sam you have to we had to
understand that that could be ask of all
and so it's important to understand the
differences in those um
different residencies that are private
that could come back and ask for the
same thing so it is important to kind of
understand
that aspect of it
i would go a step further too and say
that because this ordinance the nature
of it has changed where it would put a
liability on the property owners that we
should
we're not required to do this but we
should notice them
that we're going to have a discussion or
next council meeting that this ordinance
anticipates
it passed that they would get assessed
just to make sure all nine of them know
that we don't know that i think that's a
smart thing to do
and i also
would just remind yes
as of september 26 8 this falls off but
you should that is an artificial
deadline it can be
you do not have to pass it on the next
meeting on the 27th it can be easily be
reintroduced
what was the smart thing we should do
to notify the residents of the yeah
right our understanding is that they are
noticed because the hoa meets but we
don't know that for sure so we should
double triple
because potentially like three of them
could want this and six could not right
yeah go ahead i'm sorry
no no um
and i appreciate um
uh mr fitchell saying that you know
reminding us that this is not something
that we have to move on at the next
council meeting but given that we are
coming up at that year mark is it
possible for us to get those figures a
little bit before the friday before the
council meeting i just want to make sure
that we all have time to to digest those
um i know how busy weekends can get we
all have the best of intentions so i
would appreciate that
yeah
but also i guess just to come back i
want to make sure my information is not
conflicting with miss robinson whatever
your figures are the actual cost is
going to be assessed to them no matter
what
correct yeah so but the estimates are
good yes yep uh the actual cost those
improvements
yeah i just i mean what i'm
to me it's about total cost of ownership
it's not about bringing it up to code or
whatever the terminology is right now so
i guess i i think
i want to be mindful of that and make
sure that we understand not just
what is needed to be done today and i
and again i it sounds like all of those
eyes have been dotted and t's crossed
and i think you know that
i get the other piece to me that it is
important is
and you guys alluded to it if we do it
for one it does open the door for others
and
while i think it's unlikely that we've
done estimates to what this precedent
could set should we do this
um
it's important to recognize that
at least
and again it sounds like you've
determined that there are other
characteristics that would suggest that
others would not
um
maybe fit the profile of of this but i i
would really want to understand that
from a financial standpoint because i i
get concerned about slippery slopes and
and precedent that's set
um so i would recommend that
that that is contemplated
and it feels fast to make a decision in
two weeks on that based on what what we
have
i remember i can't remember it was maybe
the second reading before this got
tabled or the third um i remember the
city engineer coming and making a very
extensive presentation to counsel we
asked a lot of questions i remember i
asked some questions and i said i want
you to get back to me on that and i
think we tabled it like the next meeting
so there were some questions that i
still had that didn't get answered but
will there be a presentation
uh with dave
here next at the next meeting well yeah
i've asked him for the updated figures
but yeah we can have him come and i
think to to matt and
jen's point given that we either would
have to vote at the next meeting or let
it die and then
reintroduce it
given how
in my mind complex parts of this are i
will just share that i'd be really
hard-pressed to vote either way at the
next council meeting i'm still going to
keep an open mind but
um
it gives me pause
and i want to follow that up just too as
well that like
uh i think given that
we heard from david that meeting
i mean i'd like to hear from dave again
i mean one way or another i didn't have
to come in but to weigh in or some sort
of written
something like that i think
can i can i suggest something
if i may mr president of course uh and
miss assad as the introductional
institute i don't even know i said
original introducer um why don't we uh
set
a discussion for this
in october
thereby sort of implicitly guaranteeing
that it rolls off the table so no one
feels any pressure like you know the
residents feel like they have to come in
under that timeline even if you've said
to them i think then it kind of just
lets the air out of that and then you're
back in a new discussion that
makes sense
mr marcelino i'm in favor of that
completely uh
i just want so you mentioned that they
do have an hoa
so they have since formed their hoa okay
okay so that's
okay i just was thinking okay i did a
lot i just want to mention that and i
need to know this as we go into it as i
start to think about it for october
thank you very much you've got a you've
got a couple at least a couple property
owners who kind of went in not realizing
there's an hoa had to form the hoa had
this liability that they didn't know
about so they're a little
they're a little they have some feelings
about it they'll you'll hear about it
is it is there a way uh to get a cost of
ownership
yes we have we have it i i just need to
get it back okay i don't i'm my quick
search didn't show it but i've seen it
and who does that work for them now they
don't subcontract with the city to to do
their snow removal and everything they
just hire someone completely on their
own we don't do it
either they don't do it we try to get it
if we can
yeah part of
part of the change would require them to
have no parking in a lot of areas so
that was sort of the discussion that we
had
um so that we could service it we do try
to get their leaf pickup as well yeah as
we're able um
you know there's not
but then again the more you do that the
more they feel like you own the
infrastructure and the more they're
asking counsel for this sort of stuff so
just kidding
so it's sort of a it's sort of a
organic rag tag kind of
effort is that what you're saying
that's fair yeah
not quite sure well
no no no
i'm just saying no so what i'm saying is
it would be totally what would be
logical to me is that if that was the
case they might subcontract out with the
city to regularly do it and but they're
not doing that it's what's they're not
okay
and
mr officials since we added so much
extra money to your retainer tonight
if like if we were to do something like
this i mean does that open us up to
lawsuits from similar
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absolutely not absolutely not that
doesn't mean there aren't expectations
but there's no legal obligation
i mean again you can't take you can't
pick one over another because of some
protected class yeah you know but but it
there but there's no
legal way for them to
um
to be able to say and one of the other
groups say
you're doing it for them you got to do
it for us of course again the other idea
is that doesn't mean you won't get
pressure to do it but but keep in mind
as i understand some of the other or
other areas of the city they would have
to change the way they do things a lot
too
which doesn't lead me to believe that
they'd really be gung-ho in doing it
okay got it but yeah
mr president if i can add one more piece
of kind of history so as an example to
mr mcpeak's kind of slippery slow
precedent conversation and i don't
disagree that you got to think through
all those angles but
sessions village came to the city
10 12 years ago maybe even before that
asking for
us to maintain their water lines
and their logic was that when sessions
was formed
um
the water line then reattached to
further infrastructure down the down the
way
so their water line is they're
maintaining a piece of city
infrastructure that then serves other
pieces of the city parts of the city
which is actually not the case in many
puds
so that's a special condition and at the
time council was compelled by that
council chose to take on the
responsibility of their water lines
you know every
every case of this is a little bit
different i'm not advocating again for
against but i just think there have been
examples of that and in fact columbia
place tried to use that example when
they were talking about this
infrastructure said well would you take
the water line you took sessions water
line and we made the point that you know
that was a special circumstance here
were the exact here's the exact case
here here's how it doesn't apply evenly
to columbia place and
you know hopefully we'll be able to do
that in the future if there were other
non-analogous situations
anything else mr clinton just one more
so we wouldn't they've already been
paying water and sewer and so there's
nothing that we would gain
on that end right it's already yeah
they're paying cash already putting in
the bank and the street levy yeah
they're paying all those things already
all right oh
okay
all right
at this time
and then next meeting we don't do
anything it just dies right right yeah i
mean right you got to do one or two
things right now you put three things
one forward vote against it or table it
so if you just table it just dies and
that way you don't have to yeah
motion to retable ordinance 41-21
yes
second
um all in favor say aye aye aye all
opposed same spine
at this point move to uh move into
executive session for conference with
the public body's attorney concerning
pending or eminent court action by
division g3 of section 121.22 or the
revised code court action is pending if
a suit has been commenced court action
is imminent if it is on the point of
happening or impending
second
mr mcpeak can you give us a roll call
mr marcelino
yes mr markham yes mrs robinson yes mr
klingler yes assad yes miss lamke yes
miss flyball
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pass i'm going to ask council to remove
themselves from council chains
hello
motion to uh end executive session
second all in favor say aye aye all
opposed same sign
uh
committee reports uh monique lamke
finance committee
oh okay i'm sorry you were gonna do it
during finance we can't although i don't
think he knows about this so let's bring
it on here
you ready for something
so um sorry no that's all right if you
guys remember during the chief contract
negotiation we provided a moving loan of
7 500
it did not get memorialized in the
contract not bad
it's all good
so
we have
prepared an addendum to the contract
um which
specifies that the relocation allowance
um
pursuant to the offer letter that was
extended is 7 500
um
i believe mark that a voice vote is
sufficient to approve this addendum okay
i didn't feel comfortable moving forward
without
council approval just so it's totally on
the up and up any questions or comments
on this
if not i'll make a motion to approve the
addendum to the employment agreement to
uh police chief second
all in favor say aye
aye all opposed same sign
all right
rest of your committee report now malik
as the mayor mentioned earlier we're
coming up on budget season so i am going
to pass out a proposed schedule
and list of committee assignments for
council members
you can just pass that down that would
be great
at our
at our next city council meeting uh i
would like to suggest that we have what
used to be known as our financial
retreat sometimes we've done it at five
o'clock before
our regularly scheduled council meeting
or we can actually just do it during the
meeting but that would be a time where
uh you've given some pre-thought to
things that are really important to you
things that you would really like to see
in the budget
things that our mayor can kind of take
note on and he'll see if there's some
common themes and whatnot
but um that input early on would be very
helpful so
would folks like to do that maybe at
five or during the next council meeting
um
five five five o'clock sound good five
o'clock on september 27th yep that's our
next meeting yep
that worked for you
yeah troy do you mind just reminding us
that day
yeah actually monique you might need to
remind me to remind them about an email
too and i'll let lorienne knows and
she's
not with us
and then the anticipation is that
october 11th
the mayor will circulate the draft
budget and that will have a first
reading of the budget officially on
october 25th on the second page of the
attachment there are the
assignments for the various
areas that you would
work on for a budget
if you can schedule your meeting
with the mayor and he will help
coordinate
that meeting between you and the various
departments
any questions about
that proposed plan
okay the only other thing i was going to
add was uh september 22nd taste of
actually has already been mentioned 5 30
to 8 in the clifton meadows it's going
to be a great time put on by the bexley
area chamber of commerce and i am
accepting volunteers for the cookout
crew
entry truck
because i haven't cooked enough in the
past three weeks
i think uh council member marcelino will
be a little busy that night i'll be
judging he's gonna be the celebrity
judgment upon your
it's gonna be a blind taste test
we'll see i won't tell you what the dish
is
that's a thursday night right yeah it is
that's all i got and a report
safety and health say i'm marceline i am
also doing laurie anne's would you like
me to jump through it oh i'm sorry oh
it's okay no no i am uh
much less friendly and uh far worse
looking uh
but we'll give it a go thank you uh
first there's an opportunity tomorrow to
learn about solar co-ops on september
14th the bexley public library from 7
p.m to 8 p.m so come and learn all there
is to know about solar co-ops there's a
lot of fascinating information
before our next meeting there are also
two other opportunities to learn how to
become more green and learn about
ways to reduce food waste as that's
going to be the topic of the week for
the week of september 18th wasted the
story of food waste is taking place on
september 18th at capitol university's
mise hall at 2 p.m there's a free
screening so it's free fun i mean who
who wouldn't want free fun at this point
look at the energy coming out of
marcelino
can i get a gavel so you can focus and
listen
thank you
food rescue in action what does it look
like well if you want to know you got to
go on september 22nd 2022 the taste of
bexley at clifton meadow from 5 30 to 8.
you are going to have a live action
experience seeing food rescue in action
so again
free entertainment in theory hopefully
you'll buy tickets to the event itself
but that's uh you can just go watch them
rescue that food for free
but now is the fun stuff and if you're
not going to be able to make it to the
solar co-ops tomorrow i still want to
get some facts out there about solar
panels for lorien um this is a fill in
the blank and it's a question that i'll
ask anybody here and just shout it out
homes with solar panels sell for
approximately
x percentage more than homes without
paying fifteen percent two
84
half a million dollars you're all wrong
not surprisingly you're all wrong
four percent
price is right prices right goes to
klingler but four percent so that's a
pretty good return in terms of the price
in terms of the value of your home um
where can you find out how much you can
annually save with solar panels
it actually has a great resource for you
at bexley.org
solar all you have to do is go there and
click on solar maps and solar potential
and they will give you a great idea as
to what you can save per year with solar
panels
finally let's talk about the average
rooftop solar installation and how much
that can offset the equivalent of how
many mature trees so by having a solar
installation
how much will that offset the equivalent
of mature trees
guess four percent
no it's not a percentage
okay okay well i shouldn't have asked
you it was 130 this is the council 129.
129.
you are actually out of it now yeah
that's over it's 130 to 180. so really
solar can do a lot of good for you but
if you want to learn about more that you
can do with solar please get to the
bexley public library tomorrow from
seven to eight pm free fun coming up uh
and it's all green
okay
that's all
right i moved to have sam do all of our
reports tonight
i feel like lori ann would be very
pleased with that i tried
all right and and that
do you do safety too or is the safety
and
no report on safety
no report
zoning with matt klingler
yep just a couple quick things um first
i want to commend again monique lampke
for the joint livingston avenue plan
hard work you did and mayor kessler for
the first time i drove from hartley
westbound into bexley couldn't get over
34 miles per hour
could not i tried
that school bus would not go eddie no
matter how close i got
faster
it was it was seriously it was awesome
like i was like this is what it's
supposed to be it was really nice too
yeah yeah it was exciting
please turn your microphone on you pull
up to it you're on a side street pulling
up to livingston and bexley because of
that extra three-foot buffer you have a
better view of oncoming traffic which i
hadn't really thought about but it's a
true thing yeah that was great and then
i did attend the st charles raise the
roof uh this past week so if you've ever
got a chance it will be the first high
school gymnasium that is shaped like an
octagon with 360 degree seating their
convocation center slash gymnasium there
it was a fantastic event um thank you mr
lauer for inviting us out there but a
lot of good stuff going on over there
thunderdome do they call it fun underdog
i'll i will i'll put that in the ring
when they name it i'll let him know
troy's thunderdome no
no
parks and rec with
leslie knope
oh my gosh
um
so october 29th at
seven o'clock
who's joining me to go out to the adult
halloween party
what are you going to be started
thinking about it now bexley
we're going to coordinate i like it but
um good job to emily perfect for once
again
just putting her her perfect ideas out
there and i think it'll be a fun event
you hear so much for the kids and
um it's just fun adults so join me
october 29th saturday
jeffrey mansion wow harvest fest october
21st and a lot of beautification has
been done over there for the harvest
fest by our bexley bloomers so yeah
strategic committee jen robinson
um i just want to i don't have a
specific report but i just have to say
in a public setting
how absolutely thrilling it is to be
part of the historical society
they are delightful and they are so
knowledgeable about things that are
happening in our city so next week our
next meeting i hope to have a bit more
specifics about some of the wonderful
things that they're up to but
and we are lucky to have so many people
in our community who are dedicated to uh
to the history of our city we're not
that old but we have a
really
varied and really rich history
my last thing really has nothing to do
with strategy but everything to do with
musical theater which is of course my
passion and love did you guys know that
jesus is coming
to bexley next tuesday evening
at the draxl ted nealy the original
jesus christ superstar from the 1973
movie will be here giving me a look oh
you're giving me a look i thought oh my
god did it just get canceled
he
is a baritone has the widest range of
anybody except for freddie mercury this
i grew up on the show so you know the
robinsons will be there in full force
but come out support the drexel it's
going to be an amazing amazing event and
he's going to be there
celebrating his birthday and also the
almost 50th uh anniversary of the
release of jesus christ superstar so
support the drexel and come on out
that's it
jen out
public comments you guys want to join
the phone
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get up here use the microphone don don't
make me yell at you john lewis 663 you
claire thank you um early when you were
talking about
recycling bins and so on and so forth
i thought it occurred to me
what happens for the restaurants that
have to give it all the oil how do they
dispose of that and do we pay for that
and if so do
at that point
do we build those restaurants
yeah i'm interested in this too um so
grease traps are required at all
restaurants um and the cost of servicing
those grease traps and disposing is
entirely upon the property owner or the
tenant in that case the restaurant city
does not bear the cost for that in fact
if we are
i can think of a specific example where
we've had to clear our sewer lines
because the grease trap was not properly
installed we build that back to the
property owner
thank you
welcome
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all right
i'll take a motion to adjourn
so moved i'll take a second
all in favor say aye aye
good night everybody
oh man
i need old-fashioned i think bad