is huge especially with interest rates
and everything right now
my lights on
all right we good to go
that didn't sound like you're good to go
yeah
[Music]
all right ladies and gentlemen welcome
to the Tuesday October 25th meeting of
Bexley city council as always it's great
to see a huge crowd come out for the
first reading of the budget
ah I know
uh as always our thoughts are with the
people of Ukraine and I uh thank all of
you for your service to our city Mr
McPeak would you please call the roll
for us absolutely miss lamke here miss
Fireball
I'm here for the tennis stars not the
budget
uh Mr Marcelino here Assad
here Miss Robinson here Mr Markham here
and Mr cleanler here uh please rise join
me for the Pledge of Allegiance
I pledge allegiance
the United States of America
yeah
I cannot remember if we have any special
guests tonight yes I think we might
would you like to uh
I'm sorry
thanks right we have any other tennis
teammates why don't you join in my
office
I'm sorry
um so obviously the the city is a buzz
with news of your division two State
title so congratulations for that and I
have a proclamation to read for you
right and Mom and Dad you guys want to
join us up here you want to record it
all right
whereas as a High School freshman Amaya
Bowles has demonstrated exceptional
talent and accomplishment on the Bexley
High School's girls tenancy
finishing her inaugural High School
tennis season with an astounding 21-0
record followed this performance with
6060 wins in her first nine postseason
matches
and whereas at the 2022
ohsaa girls State tennis tournament
Amaya Advanced the State final where she
emerged as the first girls tennis state
champion in Bexley in 40 years
thank you
by the way first started like coaching
seriously last March just in case you
guys were wondering where is Amaya's
impressive Victory as a source of great
pride for our city and our outstanding
performance this year is only a glimpse
of the Great accomplishments that we can
expect from this talented player in the
years to come therefore I do hear a name
the week of October 23rd 2022 it has a
Maya Bowles week in the city of
Backstage
all right
um
I would just wanted to say thank you for
um having this opportunity for me
um it really means a lot especially as a
freshman to be here and make history for
Bexley and um I'm just so grateful to
have a really great Bexley Community
supporting me it's so fun for us to have
you here
we're going to get a couple photos of
you that's all right so I'm going to
move this out of the way
oh if you insist
oh he wanted you to
judiciers
president Markham if I may well you are
organizing this picture I just want to
say that my daughter Lucy is in class
with Amaya and
um I'm sure her parents would love to
hear this she said not only is she
amazing at tennis she's also really nice
so good job parents
oh
all right
yeah that's really something nobody
needs
um
what a great way to start by the way
just so you know when it's when it's
Amaya bowls week in the city of Bexley
Dad you need to know this for Amaya
bowls a week she gets ice cream at least
every day from either Johnson's or great
yeah part of the week part of the week
Amaya Amaya is it is it true that you
never had to play a third set this oh
listen I hope they can find you some
better competition than next year
[Laughter]
oh all right we're all googly-eyed you
guys are absolutely welcome to stay as
long as you want at this very exciting
meeting you also may leave whenever you
want it's going to get a lot more boring
from here on out I gotta I gotta admit
[Laughter]
hmm
yeah
[Applause]
[Music]
oh man
oh what's wrong with you
all right IO uh I'll take a motion to
adjourn I understand
yeah peaked early
um any Mr mcpeek here you're up here any
uh speaker slips
not that I'm aware of not only do we
have any speaker slips okay all right
president's report I'm not going to try
and follow that so let's go to City
attorney report
when I was a freshman
I was about half that height no no
report tonight all right what about the
auditor no auditor report no and I'll
bet you there's no administrative update
either so oh no probably probably we
should do that let's do the
administrative update
um
we'll start with the finance department
Beecher hail
live and in person
there's a budget
yes so let me
pull that up
they're with me
I've been asking for forever finally
caved in
single government
yes
okay so got to my nose really don't have
too much to say I mean it's you know the
notes are there you know they're kind of
you know I'm leaving them alone as long
as these you know we don't have the or
we as long as we still have these
variances
um and the biggest highlight best part
of all is income tax is now about 1.35
million over budget
um and so
and to let me scroll down on the report
here
if I can
which that and under spending on our
expenditures leave us about 2.6 million
dollars better fund balance so things
are good
hey Peter just um on the the tax Surplus
I know this is we we've talked about
this and I know it's incredibly
difficult question but do we think that
that
um is a timing issue or an event where
we've just collected monies earlier than
we would
um or do we believe that it is truly
um increased uh taxes that we're going
to get by through the through the end of
the year say it's not timing at this
point it's probably going to get more
taxes up you know it could it may not be
this much more could slow down
um
I think maybe more people are working at
home and paying their tax directly to
Bexley um I don't know if the mayor has
any speculation of talking to anybody
um but so yeah I mean it's just a really
with the demographics of Bexley it's
really hard to inhale it down
I do think that one thing we know is
true is that um there's been more remote
work
and so because of that we've most likely
had more withholdings coming directly to
Bexley
so I'm sure we benefited from that it's
hard to know how long term that's going
to be
foreign
anything else
that's my report
I think we got a question here I can
just say I can speak from personal
experience in my own household that is
true so thank you for doing your part
yep oh I'm glad to
um
oh yes and then we had uh what we call a
motion it's actually cancel has to
approve and expenditures you know when
the
when the services or Goods goods and
services predate the PO we had one of
these it's our this particular invoices
for our continuing disclosure
requirement because we have in excess of
10 million dollars of General obligation
debt
um typically we would open that at the
beginning of the year and uh I just had
to get Angie converted over from the
Whitehall Way when she took back over as
payables because they wouldn't have
opened this we would typically just open
it at the beginning of the year so so
that's that
and I'll just add that for anybody who
has questions about the invoice if you
look at page two there's a description
for what the legal services are to pay
our bond Council
does anybody have any questions about
this before I make a motion to approve
this invoice
I moved to approve the invoice from
Squire patent and Boggs second
moved and seconded all in favor say aye
aye all opposed same sign
ature passes
foreign
good evening really nothing additional
but here to answer any questions that
may be presented
yes Ms Robinson
no question but I would just like to
publicly wish you a happy birthday today
and no one's allowed to ask many
questions because he has dinner plans so
thank you thank you that had evaded my
calendar I'm glad to know
and I will not happen again that's the
Strategic chair that's what they do
well I think our birthday gift too is a
early dismissal from city council it
sounds like yeah
no questions
thank you
we'll do we'll do
Chief I want to thank you for working
the Harvest Festival it was great to see
you there I mean you didn't have to
trash talk my chili but other than that
it was really cool thank you
so I I am um
following your lead and I'm not saying
this because you're my boss but I'm
saying it because I believe in it but I
think that we have to lead by example
and so it's important
um you've made a great example at all
these events and the visibility
um in the short time I've been here I
believe in the same philosophy and so
when I found out that we didn't have any
officers signed up it was an opportunity
for me to step up and be visible and
lead by examples so um it was an amazing
event obviously uh Kristen Ivy were able
to be there as well so it worked out
well for all of us thank you
I just want to thank you for shining I
know I've shared this with you and I
shared it with with um I think the rest
of council that my husband alerted me I
did somehow know that you were speaking
at the library that evening where I
would have been there in person to uh to
support you but we he did husband did
put it on on uh his his phone and we
listened and you you were wonderful well
thank you I I kid you not guys he was
very personable and approachable and and
I he has done his homework he's really
learning our city well so thank you very
much for that thank you
and chief what tier were you in the
fitness test I just
don't hate me because you ain't me
oh man
Monique
sorry Chief I have to ask you one
question um I did see that officer Davis
uh turned in his resignation I believe
um and I think coupled with the other
officer from a few weeks ago that went
to another location how are we doing on
hiring in vacancies in our department
so
um the both officers have left
um and have planned on leaving the
profession completely and that is not a
Bexley thing it's a national thing and I
think that um my professional experience
the past 36 months we have seen law
enforcement professionals anywhere from
six months to 25 years
um just turn the other direction and
wanting to get out of the space for a
number of reasons officer Davis had
always desired to do this type of work
but now that he's doing it the shifts
the weekends the holidays the impact he
says that you know he can go make more
in the private sector and be home Monday
through Friday
um you know in the evenings and weekends
and holidays and I respect that and um
so what's our plan the mayor and I are
talking about really just kind of taking
a step back and really putting together
a strong recruitment plan and look at
the Next Generation
Mark and I today even had some
discussion about personnel with
dispatchers and how we're going to
continue to move forward I am working on
a strategic plan for the Department of a
three-year plan and a lot of these
things will be captured that will be
presented the mayor first and obviously
we'll submit back I think it's just
something that we have to be mindful of
I know that in the interview process
that was something that came up it's not
going away and I think that we have to
be mindful but I think we have to do
more than just throw money at the
problem I think that there are other
things that play a factor in that
besides the economic piece
um a lot of is just things have changed
and it said ebb and flow of it well
thank you I look forward to hearing more
about the recruitment plan once it's
flushed out
all right thank you
um
and chief it is your birthday you are
welcome to get out of here or you can
hang around and listen to Andy squirrel
squirm a little bit during the budget
[Laughter]
it'll be on YouTube you can watch it
later
Mr Price
thank you mayor
[Music]
can you hear me yeah you're echoing a
little bit for some reason
is that is
um
[Music]
it's a cool effect it's kind of like a
80s hair bands
oh yeah I could call you
Mike why don't I just call your landline
and uh
you can mute okay
my cat has a landline
I thought he'd be at the game I think
the games maybe it's the seven
High School soccer playoffs tonight
getting high-tech here
yeah you're gonna have to turn your
speaker off though sorry
you got it I did it okay yeah all right
you're good all right sorry about that
um I I did want to point out a few
things on the highlights on the report
um starting with the the summer camp
report which was uh presented to the
record at our meeting last week uh I
think it's important that Council be
aware and we're continuing to go through
this process from a budgetary standpoint
but
um one of the biggest you know biggest
factors or biggest
um uh things that we want to keep an eye
on our costs associated with the Jeffrey
summer camp and in lieu of sort of the
wage increase that we've seen across the
board not just in Campland and sort of
all of our offerings
um summer camp was obviously hit fairly
hard from that from a financial
perspective
um just to give some some general sort
of
um information we're seeing about if you
go back to 2018 2019 we're seeing about
a 50 increase in selling wage costs from
a starting wage of what would have been
around
um around 855 in 2018 to what we're
probably expecting to be around 12 50
and 2023.
um as you'll see in the report that the
cost per camper going from
77.18 to
116.22 which again is about a 50
increase
um you know obviously uh salary wages is
the biggest driving uh cost associated
with that program there are other costs
that are seeing inflationary increases
but not to the extent that we're seeing
it within salary and wages so I bring
that up uh just to make sure uh council
is aware that that will have an impact
on that program specifically but as if
as a program that's a large driver of
our just our general budget that in our
sort of our daycare programming with
before and after here it's going to be
something we have to continue to keep an
eye on
um we did not give recommendations to
the rec board at this last game which is
normally what we would do at the time of
presenting a report we need some
additional time to digest a plan
um or how we think about summer camp
moving forward but the idea that is
going to be more of a three to four year
plan as opposed to hey we just need to
increase three or four percent for next
year
um so we're going to sort of look at
what we think that might be for the next
four or five years uh obviously
taking it and looking at from 2021 or at
nine dollars to 12 in 2020 due to doing
some sort of 30 or 40 percent jump in
the needs based program is a you know a
very important decision and concern that
we would have in order to
uh in order to sort of stay in line with
those inflationary costs maybe a camp
program that is 179 a week to 250 a week
which is obviously a very significant
jump so I say that just to say the
accounts I want you just to be aware of
it as we talk through budget about
thinking about how we can uh feather
those costs out over a number of years
because this is a need-based program
being sensitive to the impact on our end
users about making some sort of
significant zone so that's going to be a
big piece of what we do over the next
couple of weeks and incorporate that
into our Revenue side of summer camp
um some of those things sort of uh
impact is happening with the pool as you
you'll notice as we've talked about from
a financial standpoint as related to the
full you know cost associated with
Staffing is a large driving factor or
not not as high a percentage as it would
be in our camp but it's still a very
high percentage of our costs for running
a full facility uh and again same sort
of inflationary costs on starting
selling wages 2021 we're paying about
950 an hour to jump into 14 and 2022 and
expected jump to 15 an hour in 2023 in
order to
um entice employees and have the number
of employees we need to provide the the
um programming into the pool facility uh
so again that that's going to be
difficult uh I mean strategically and
philosophically about what we want that
to look like as a department as a
community
um and whether or not we were looking at
what type of subsidies we were looking
at for that experience of these but
that's that is again a part of our
process we will be making
recommendations to the board uh on both
the pool and Camp as it relates to
um Talk for next year at our I don't
know number meeting uh other than that
Harvest Festival again I want to I want
to thank the police department uh I want
to thank them right next staff I want to
thank all of the amazing volunteers uh
that were associated with the Harvest
Festival uh thank you mayor Kessler Tim
Pittston now Silverman who did the Chile
for us again
um it was it was truly a wonderful
Community event great weather
lots of people having a good time and so
I appreciate all of your support because
uh well while the record department
maybe takes the lead on these types of
events it really takes an entire
city-wide effort to pull this off
service guys and uh TV and
um you know volunteers it was it was
really a fun event appreciate all the
support we got for that and lastly I was
thinking about wearing my costume gonna
I think it would be the right time but
the Halloween bash is this prize this
Saturday uh the 29th we are extremely
excited for this first ever Venture uh
we were hoping for 100 people registered
we were going to have them in the
neighborhood of 180 190 register
um we are starting uh decorations
tomorrow and uh excited about hopefully
a really cool fun unique event for us
you know it's a it's an adult focused
event we do a lot of fun family and
children events but it's an adult
focused event so we're extremely excited
about that is that a picture of you
there Mike is that you that is that is
when I don't have my shirt on I'm gonna
say why don't you have a costume on I
thought you were trying to plug the uh
Halloween bash all right
any questions for Mike
Monique like I have to praise you in
your whole department for an amazing
Harvest Festival I told you this already
but you guys hit a home run it was a
beautiful night the community really
came out but
all the hard work of you and your staff
and volunteers I really uh was noticed
so thank you for making it extra special
Women's Club and their continued
involvement in the event it really is it
is nice to have so many different
Community groups involved in it so thank
you
any questions
yeah is see
is 300
3239 campers in 2019 is that number
right so we were only down 500 this year
for the Jeffrey summer camp report uh
line item two
much okay
um I I think you're asking about the
total number of campers uh in 20 uh 2022
yeah so we we have seen a really good
bounce back
um we saw a really good bounce back this
year
um compared to you know the last couple
of years with covet and we're sort of
inching back up towards pre-pandemic
numbers our numbers in 2019 or
3239. I want to be clear about that
that's individual weeks of camp that
were registered for so that might be one
bit that signs up for 10 weeks the whole
10 weeks that are going down a 10 out of
one child
um but yeah we have seen a really nice
bounce back
um
the pandemic now I will say that the
2772 uh campus that we had this past
summer uh we did have some limitations
uh our our space can hold more obviously
than we did in 2019. we did have to turn
some away from a ratio standpoint
because of difficulty with Staffing
levels
um so you know we had the potential to
maybe even do a little bit more than
that I don't think we ended up having to
turn a lot away but we did have a we did
have some issues with Staffing levels
um but yeah we have we've seen a really
good bounce back it was an operation it
was a very normal uh you know and it was
a normal year for us in terms of some of
those uh
uh more laborious
um safety measures that were taken
during covet obviously we continue to
deal with some of those safety measures
but we were able to operate more more
normally in 2020-22 so it was it was
really good to see that bounce back
yes
yes Mike mine is just
um praising you guys for keeping the
Bexley I'm gonna call it the wrong thing
but the like uh Halloween trail of all
of the animation
um the enchanted walk up all of October
it is so amazing how much that has grown
over the past I want to say 14 years
that I've been on it with my oldest son
and my youngest and the kids just love
it and I love that I don't know when we
made that decision to keep it up longer
but there's so much work that went into
that trail and they just love it so I
think it's great that we keep it up till
the end of October so
um just want to just praise the park and
rec staff for coming up with another
good idea and letting people enjoy that
a lot longer than just one night
thanks Jess I appreciate it
all right anything else all right thanks
so much Mike have a great night
um stay stay tuned in here so you can
get some Pro tips from Andy on how to
present your budget all right
all right see you bye
okay
um
we are moving on to the service
department update
good evening city council um
not a whole lot to add to my reports uh
leaf collection started yesterday and
the fellas are out
um
probably 75 percent of the department is
on leaf removal so some of the stuff
might take us a little longer to get to
the normal just because we're our main
focus is on you know leaf collection
right now
happy to answer any questions
Matt oh Sam sorry
after you good sir
you have an idea of when the dog park
will be wrapped up
the fence is up and the drainage is in
it'll be next spring
okay that's what we're shooting for
okay
we should have another city council tour
the uh as basically
once we get a little more drainage yes
we're on some Muck Boots
uh Sam uh there's been just obviously it
comes around this time of year but I've
had a couple complaints in regards to uh
trees going to hang down over some of
the signs is there a process for how you
guys audit that throughout the day or is
it just as you come across at people
both
um right now our tree crew is starting
to wrap up and they're starting to work
on tree removals in that tree removal
process they will be checking stop signs
and intersections throughout the city
but no end up going Street to street
it's kind of what we do in the winter
but I I know there's some and they're
working on them sure no that's fine and
then also I know in here that there will
be some sign replacement I actually had
a brand new Resident just say uh they
had you know they've had some
difficulties seeing signs is there going
to be a change in the color the size of
them or anything of that nature just
simply same green and white signs it'll
be the same size the same type it'll be
in the more reflective
um just for the standards and uh we're
kind of behind on our signing program so
we'll try to get after it this fall and
this winter great thank you so much for
all your work are you talking about
actual street signs yeah yeah okay so I
think most of our sign project is
regulatory science yeah I'm sorry yeah
but it's an interesting question so stay
tuned Andy and I have yet to talk about
this but I have some ideas about it
that's on my radar it's on my radar too
then
um and also I just encourage anyone who
has like concerns for example I called
in the other day I was out on a walk and
there was a tree encryption in the
sidewalk you know we're not there we're
not all around so we really rely on
those eyes on the street and
um so they can call the service
department or they use the Bexley base
both are great ways to report that
I mean if you hear about it you can do
that too anything else for Andy
um just one question so I'm going to ask
you a question that probably could take
like a two-day working session so um do
your best to do it in under a minute
here okay um uh but I saw the the
commentary direct The Drexel project
where AEP will be starting their poll
replacement in December so
um
I guess the question I have is how does
one or how do we or how does ADP
evaluate burying these lines versus
replacing the poles
that that would be a couple days yeah
um we reached out to AEP because that
was our goal as far as getting all the
overhead underground yeah the cost was
astronomical
um just ballpark what was it four six it
was right around 10 and that's when he
told us to quit yeah a million 10
million for the whole city yeah
left
I think you did that in about 30 seconds
yes
can you uh squirrel away some acorns so
we can do something here
okay we we do we do look in the
underground and as you know as much as
makes sense and as possible but it's
really really expensive
yeah
strategic but those polls are just
moving a little bit
right they're just shifting from you
know where we're doing some of the curb
work they're just shifting back a little
a little bit off the curb
much less expensive
any other questions for Andy oh
Andy is that what their some of our city
workers are working on right now this
spray paint on Drexel
that is for some of the inlet work
that's coming up
um that's the AEP they're they're
marking their own I mean our crews are
out there marking our utilities but some
of the stuff that you've seen our guys
out there is just we have more inlets
going in here in the next week or two
got lots of things going on on drugs
yeah
and you might address this in the budget
tonight are you going over is he doing
the budget thing he's doing his
presentation
um is there any have you thought about
any sort of uh technological
advancements in leaf collection or
something we can invest in that would
help your department you know not
necessarily add on Personnel but make
you guys more efficient
I've looked at everything and anything
okay and right now we're pretty
efficient I've Just Seen A whole lot of
Technology out there for Relief
collection I wish there was something
better so we could get it done quicker
but yeah yeah all right
foreign
so um quick updates for you guys
um been working on the budget so I've
got some budget points written down here
in my marriage update wow
um we've been working on the library
pocket part which is a piece of the year
of the parks project with the library
and look for automatic
um so we will be having a public
Workshop in the next three or four weeks
as we've met with the library board
we've met with Toronto met board and by
I say we it's myself Ben Ackman and
Ellen and who's have been working on us
and are going to be um
trying to hone some of those ideas so
that this is something that will be a
library Park uh Library synagogue Park
but um
Valley of the future we did receive two
applications so we have two alleys
buying for the title out of the future
um we have uh we are seven to panels we
waited until we got outpatient because
some of our judges might have been
applicants so we were to make sure we
had non-applicant judges
um so several of you have volunteered I
appreciate that
um we're going to take a look at
the applications on the Merit the award
projects
so I didn't know it's a program with
recent stats we will get a report back
from sorry my mic's on it we'll get a
report back from our um contractors
um in terms of
um amount of material that was uh kind
of tagged as not being appropriate and
then also they do a before and after
audit of our stream so they're able to
measure the efficient Effectiveness
efficacy efficacy of the uh of the
program
I have a couple photos this is a great
one when uh we were believe it or not so
if you hear hissing in your air in your
water lines there are pockets of our
water supply that can get excess air in
them uh this particular issue was called
in by one president Troy Markham who was
responding to a Civic concern ironically
it's on the same block my sister lived
in so I had I visited her like five
minutes later that's how I took the
photo and she's like oh yeah we heard
that but we weren't going to bother you
with it it's like all right
I love you guys
at work and we met Amaya tonight and
Elizabeth ellman was on television in
Iowa does it say there's that that's not
Alum Creek behind her is it
that's right trusted
uh nothing to do with the plane
malfunctions yes but uh I I can't
remember the river she was standing in
front of but uh it was a neat little
news piece
you know yeah I'm sure that's what it
was called
uh so with that any questions
I I just have a question I guess
so I'm I'm reading through their budget
stuff here yes I'll be I'll be going
through here in a second okay so that
we're going to go through this okay
that's it
all right
that was the shortest Major's update on
record thank you Mr professional all
right we're going to budgets
exactly
shall I yes please all right so we have
the first reading of ordinance 41-22
authorizing Appropriations for the
calendar year beginning beginning
January 1st 2023 to confirm the
appointment of Mark Fishel as City
attorney and to authorize 2022 transfers
to the economic Bond development
retirement fund the Capital Improvements
fund and the infrastructure development
fund of 694 328 500
000 and another five hundred thousand
dollars respectively introduced by Ms
lamkey
thank you the wait is over you guys I
know everybody's been waiting for our
budget tonight's our first reading uh
and it's my understanding that Andy is
going to present part of the service
department budget the mayor's going to
present part of his budget he's going to
give us an overview of some additional
highlights and he's also going to uh
highlight an Enterprise debt fund you
might remember a few weeks ago the mayor
mentioned that he and I had sat down and
we talked a lot about the city debt and
the interest rates so I think at a few
more of these we're going to be trying
to Spotlight a few of our debt funds
going forward
next meeting we're going to have our
second reading and I believe that the
police department budget will be
presented then we'll still be hearing
about five to ten year projections uh
plus those additional debt funds so
mayor or Andy who wants to kick it off
I'm going to kick it off with a couple
just a broad brush overview of the
budget
um and what you'll find in it and I'm
going to take you to the summary page
but then I'm going to just talk so you
don't have to necessarily focus on on
what you're looking at here but a couple
things to be aware of is where we sit
today and and as a reminder the budget
is organic
um we're going to continue to find
uh items that need to be polished or
honed maybe mistakes things that we need
to fix so we will from here on out every
future version of the budget will have a
changed list so to say here's what
changed between the two
um the uh income tax we're forecasting a
two percent growth from our projected
end of year this year that is lower than
our average we average we used to say
2.6 we redid that analysis recently
looking at back over the past 20 years
and subtracting years when the tax had
changed we average about a 4.2 percent
income tax growth so
what we know is that our income tax
receipts are going to Trail economic
conditions so as many of us are worried
about heading into recession
should that recession hit
our income tax will be hit a little bit
but most of that effect will be hit will
hit us in 2024 not in 2023 2023 has a
lot more to do with 2022 than it does
with 2023.
um we have a couple big kind of Concepts
in this budget one of them as you've
heard a lot about is year of the parks
that's going to show up primarily in the
Tiff fund and in the capital fund which
those are still being honed they're not
in this packet tonight
um another big concept that we have in
place is the idea that this budget
proposes taking the responsibility for
sidewalk repairs entirely on into the
City and house with the city and we'll
talk about that actually tonight more in
depth
um another Concept in this budget and
this is a these are all Concepts right
so they're all negotiable but these are
just kind of thrown out there as ideas
is
um as we look at our pool and what it
costs to operate our pool and we know
that if you if you had just as you know
you just saw Mike's numbers for the pool
we were losing money on the pool every
year the question is should we be losing
money on the pool and how much should we
lose it on the money in the pool and
that philosophical question is answered
in this budget in a way that you may or
may not agree with which is that this
budget proposes that we would uh
actually lower and reduce our pool
admissions to a 25 per person uh season
rate which makes it really accessible to
we think most of our households we think
it's not as accessible to many of our
households as it used to be and so
effectively we would be increasing that
transfer from the general fund to the
pool
um you know that's a it's a really good
conversation to have some cities have
free pools some cities have pools that
try to recoup every single dollar and so
that's something I think we need to
focus on more in depth when Mike does
his presentation we've also added added
a pool
replacement fund so in the past we we
have a swimming pool fund which we is is
primarily operational it covers our
operating costs it has a little bit of a
reserve traditionally those cover
repairs and improvements to the pool but
that's to the existing pool right so one
of the things that came out when during
our Council budget meeting before is we
talked about this was the idea that we
would start setting decide money for the
pool proactively so in this budget we
set 250 000 inside
for into a new pool replacement fund the
wording is in your budget ordinance
I think it's section three or four
um and the way it's worded and we have
to make sure this is okay is that it
functions to uh replace the pool to have
Capital repairs and improvements to the
pool and in the instance that auditor
declares a financial emergency fiscal
emergency it will function as an
additional rainy day fund so we have to
make sure that that language is
susceptible but basically it's like
setting aside money but also there in
case of like you know break glass in
case an emergency
so we we spent
um
4.9 million 4.3 million somewhere in the
fours when we built it that was back in
2007 so you know costs are different
with the current design so Mike is in
the process of pulling comps from other
area pools I think it's safe to say that
like we will set aside funding which
will make it easier to replace the pool
but it you know who knows how long this
one will last and whether or not we'll
have adequate funding to entirely pay
for it
it is a new it's a modal shift in
thinking I think it's great so I hope
that we can keep that in the budget
um we have
a
couple other things I want to highlight
and then there are lots of changes that
we'll just go through at the
departmental level
um another large piece of our budget uh
is going to be funding for environmental
remediation for the Ferndale Mayfield
area so we have been setting aside funds
in our infrastructure fund
our budget starts to anticipate that
those funds are starting to get expent
on helping with with the remediation of
those properties
um as you know we have been actively
working on environmental nuisance
um Pursuit on some of those properties
that we know to be contaminated and we
are doing testing on properties we don't
know to be contaminated so we'll know a
whole lot more in the coming three to
six months but the that is actively
being worked on and progressing and it's
anticipated that there will be spend on
that project as part of this budget
um another thing that we're keeping our
eye on and uh we'll get to it at a
future date uh and More in more detail
is our Enterprise funds specifically our
water sewer and refuse funds
and our refuge fund
um our refuse expenditures are uh
exceeding our are the rates the that
we're charging residents we're spending
more than we're bringing in on our fees
which we we knew we had a pretty healthy
balance there but another concept we
have here is to take
some Personnel capacity we have in the
refuse fund and move them into the
general fund
and those include we have a person who
empties the trash on Main Street and
they're all around the city in the Parks
and does street sweeping and does other
trash collection activities but they're
not specific to residential property
they're just Global throughout the city
and so the the shift here would bring
that person as a general fund expense
therefore alleviating pressure off of
the refuse fund and so we don't have to
increase the rate as much as we would
otherwise have to
um lots of other Concepts in here I just
wanted to highlight some of those
um any questions about that or any of
the bullet points that uh are on my
update introduction to the 23 budget
before I get into specifics
as I get into specifics I will cover
some of our city hall
um and general Administration accounts
we're trying something new this year
um our our auditor has recommended that
we create like a summary sheet for each
account so we're going to go over the
summary sheets we'll see how well that
works and see if we need to tweak
anything different I'm gonna so I'm
going to present a few accounts Andy's
going to present his general fund
accounts then we're gonna do the road
analogy fund account and then we're
going to review the debt service from
the road alley fund
um and uh that will be our presentation
for this evening and Andy will be back
presenting more of his accounts once we
have this experience under our belt so
thank you Andy for taking one for the
team and being here more than once I
appreciate that it's like I didn't have
a choice okay so this document is
attached to your agenda
and it is called
budget presentation narratives so you
can have it open I'm going to be reading
from it but I'm not going to have it up
on the screen because I'm going to have
the actual account up on the screen
I'm going to start with the mayor's
office and City Hall
so if you look at that
we do not have any changes in personnel
we've added uh five thousand dollars to
our
special events overtime budget to
accommodate additional community events
um there's actually an amendment to our
supplemental current active supplemental
probations ordinance to accommodate this
as well so this will end up tracking
with
this year so it's sort of assuming the
next year is similar this year in terms
of community events
you will see throughout the budget
what we're currently proposing is a four
percent cost of living increase for our
non-union personnel
um the reason that our salaries and
wages don't increase that much within
this particular account is that we no
longer have appropriation for a
volunteer coordinator out of this
account
because that was a coveted cares act
specific expense
other expenditures are remaining flat
within this budget so there is no change
um looking through it
I don't think that there is any
particular line item that would really
warrant
um
significant decrease
one thing that will pop out at you it
did to me at least was that our
utilities Gas and Electric is fully
spent for the year
my understanding I am told is that we
rotate our utilities POS from different
so we'll pay
we will pay all of our facilities out of
a certain Po and then we'll move on to
the next one so that's they're not
necessarily allocated
accurately to facilities so City Hall
was an earlier po that was used for that
and
there are no additional new expenditures
in this account is there any or any
questions for anyone on this
okay
and we'll move on to Grant reimbursed
expenditures this is exciting
uh for a couple reasons we have we we
came into this year with 250 000
appropriated for our state capital money
we received 350. so um we're not
spending that this year so we're going
to let that go away and we're going to
reappropriate it next year so that's why
it still shows up in the budget
we've already received a grant for
Jeffrey Terrace repairs of 70 000 from
the Community Foundation so we that's an
identified
grant that we're not going to start
until next year so thank you Community
Foundation that's huge Baxley Police
Department equipment grants that
includes new Motorola radios for all of
our officers
it also includes some software that's
being requested one of those the bigger
one 200 and some odd thousand has been
received the other one is anticipated so
we're allowing some appropriation for
those two grants we have a increase in
our vaccine celebrations and events
based upon our experience this year and
um and that money is raised privately
for those events and then we have the
typical placeholder for those grants
that we apply for and receive throughout
the year that are smaller
so that's our grants account
um yes where do we get the police
department grants from is that the state
state yeah oh nice okay awesome
yeah
do you guys work with a grant writer or
do you do it all we don't
um we don't work with a grant writer
yeah
Don Mobley wrote the grant a larger one
um that's great Chief Lewis before he
even started as Chief helped push it
over the edge so
he's been very helpful in
um helping advocate for those grants
awesome
okay any other questions
auditor's office is going to be in the
future
okay
City attorney
we're estimating a four percent increase
uh for our City attorney retainer
we are keeping appeals here in an
outside Council flat from what we expect
this year to look like
and we are dropping aggregation legal as
you know this is not a great time for us
to be pursuing aggregation I'm
continuing to monitor it continuous
conversations having a meeting coming up
the next couple weeks with a
aggregation consultant uh the landscape
has changed so it'll be interesting to
watch what that looks like but uh no
need I think to appropriate the uh that
legal for now
as you can see we spent 36 dollars on
that line item this year
two pencils
any questions
yep
on the outside Council fees
um
where did the I I know 85 was what is in
revised 22.
um we don't think that
special counsel fees May exceed 85 000
for 2023. so yeah
we we as you know we under budgeted that
this year in 21 we spent 95.
um we have gotten Believe It or Not
we've gotten quite a bit better at uh
managing some of those expenses we also
those have a lot to do with pipeline
projects
you know we there are some developments
that may come through the pipeline that
uh would indicate we need more for that
and we'll let you know but I think I'm
comfortable with that for now that feels
like a good Baseline and if there needs
to be more
we'll talk about that one of the
concepts in this budget is that we will
be upping our variance uh fees because
in reviewing those legal fees a lot of
those legal fees are accrued as a result
of variance requests
um so right now our variance is
relatively inexpensive to apply for in
Bexley we're going to make it assuming
you approve it we're going to make those
fees more commensurate with the expenses
that we have involved in process
intervariants so something like I think
I don't want to throw the numbers out so
I won't but I'll tell you more in detail
probably at our next meeting and in
general we're looking at all of our
permit fees we're we're looking at
historical how many permits have we
issued what is the revenue from those
different types of permits what are
other cities uh charging for them where
should we be at
uh the variance one just really jumps
out because it's a known expense
okay
yeah we will get more involved in that
as we discuss the permits
Civil Service
um
we're keeping consistent with oh yeah
sorry Jess
yeah
I know we don't have a number but would
you be able to give me a quick idea of
how many variances
are okay I'm gonna this is in my head
okay yeah no worries but I think we
issue about estimated variances a year
now those 80. now those variances can
range from
area variances to uh use variances and
so we need to kind of delineate what are
the ones that tend to maybe cause more
of an issue and we'll look at that but I
think my recollection is that it's a 250
application and I think we're looking to
go something more on the line of a
thousand dollars to capture the costs
the logic there is that if you're asking
for variance you're asking for something
that's not allowed by rice into zoning
and it does require a lot more review a
lot more fastidiousness a lot more
expense for us to process
that may have a chilling effect on
variances so that's something for us to
be aware of just quick follow-up were
those variances that uh had legal review
do you know because I know a lot some of
them are just um consent agenda yep well
not considered not consent agenda but
like some of them are quickly given yeah
with little they all have legal review
it's whether or not it's an attorney
doing the legal review but they all have
review but they're not we're asking
outside counsel to opine the problem is
you can't really predict so like no yeah
you know it may be that
corner lot whatever
is all the neighbors love it so no one
objects and the board thinks it's great
it goes forward or
that doesn't happen and there's no way
to predict which one's going to have
that or not so
um
you know it's again it's a concept it's
something that philosophically you guys
might not feel comfortable with which I
understand we're just trying to figure
out how to recoup
those costs we're trying to process them
accurately and fairly and with the right
resources and understanding of those
resources
and we looked at any sort of other
Municipality of what they do yeah we'll
have all the we'll have all the magdal
okay
our oh I know our permits are much lower
than most other cities I know that I
don't know right I don't know how the
variance is okay
civil service is flat from last year we
uh
from a negotiation perspective Mark what
do we have coming up
um
we have
um the sergeant and uh Patron Sergeant
agreement coming up okay which that will
occupy uh some of our legal fees for
civil service quite a few of them
we had a lot of civil service wrapped up
this year in
matters that had to do with covid and
some determinations on illness and so
that ended up costing us more than we
thought it would but we still feel that
that's appropriate and sufficient
there is a placeholder in the budget if
you go to the front of your budget
and you go to
I should have highlighted this if you go
to your summary page two
and you see there's estimated additional
appropriation 50 000 that's always there
that kind of like is a placeholder that
we might be asking for more money in the
future
it's like a third of the way down the
second sheet of the summary estimated
additional human resource appropriation
is there
that's new
yeah sorry I'll pull it up for you later
it doesn't have a page on its summary oh
wait five five there we go
so estimated additional human resource
appropriation
we are kicking off our audit this month
uh we've already had a pre-conference
with our auditor for HR
that number might not be enough it might
be more than enough so we're well we're
at least putting something in there uh
not knowing what it's going to be I
didn't want to Define it in the
elsewhere in the budget it's just sort
of a placeholder for it
okay
it's roughly by the way about what a
part-time HR person might cost and that
might be wrong so we'll see
uh Civil Service other than that is
unchanged
uh jumping in fact uh Ben if you don't
mind sorry interrupt um would that
modify the uh special counsel human
resource contractor operating expenses
totally could okay so for example if
if our
audit comes back and says you know you
guys are doing this this and this pretty
well but you could really use a
consultant to help you out with these
things throughout the year then I could
see our contract would go way up so we
would get rid of that fifty thousand
dollar line that I'm in the front and
end insert it in here okay and it may or
like I said may be the right number or
not it's just a good faith effort to
have a number in there so that we're
keeping an eye on that as we move
forward thank you
yep
um on the Civil Service uh human
resource contract there's listed as 10
whereas last year was 33.5 was that
because of the police chief search no
that was that's a great question I'm
sorry that that was a one-time that's
the audit contract and the police chief
search okay so there's a little bit of
both in there
um
great reminder actually forgot the
police chief research was a piece of
that yeah
anything else on that
city council this one's pretty
contentious
um we are estimating that we would need
about another 500 a year for our
codification codification
um part of the higher cost has been
we've we've we had to do a lot of
catch-up in 22
um from some prior years after we
audited internally what was missing
um so we had to get some old Origins
codified that hadn't been codified
um but nonetheless in general that's
just becoming those contracts are
increasing you know it's a it's a it's a
legal service to look at what we pass
integrate it into our code and then
provide that to us in the codification
in the service which I think is a
monthly updated Natalie
quarterly
okay
be good sorry
I just don't mean to spend more meeting
your parents a year yeah guys get with
it
we probably have been putting your
Refreshments in City Hall but yeah
we'll we'll make sure those are accurate
in the future
all those Refreshments that you guys
consume
any questions on city council I think as
good as
yeah uh so special events uh been to
some events uh what is that thousand
bucks for
that was a prior counselor member a
council member who had asked for funds
to for Council to be able to have
like
I'm not even I honestly can't tell you
exactly what that was for I could I can
find out what this was though and I
don't mean to yeah does anybody have a
need for a special event coming up in
the next year it was it was if Council
wanted to have someone to come in and
lecture on something or training or I
mean yeah what the 329 go towards just
so I have an idea I'll get you to see
each other
debatable I'm sorry
uh
so there was a oh there was a couple
plaques that had been given to employees
on retirement I think makes sense
but didn't don't we have an awards out
of the no this doesn't make sense
lorian still needs her daughter in May
so I'll try to figure out what that came
from thank you
what's that
um
anything else on this
no
anybody nope
okay okay okay
um
Mayor's Court
Sam I'll get back to you the specifics
there I'm trying to look it up as I'm
talking and it's not gonna
be good slow what's that
okay cool
so in court
uh we have step increase there we have
a couple expenses that we know have been
higher this year and we expect to stay
higher one of them was our mayor's court
prosecutor we've been Prosecuting more
Code Enforcement cases and I think
that's resulted in more after hours work
or outside of Court work
um
our public defender amount is sufficient
there is a
uh decrease and operating we don't think
we need as much for that next year and
that's those are kind of the major
changes in that account
and actually some of my budget notes are
out of date because we made some changes
so
we
so I apologize for that there's a typo
and the overall increase
um I'm looking at the salary of wages in
opers
um looks like a 28.2 percent increase
yep can you is that just a cost of
living can you explain that a little bit
yeah so it's a there's a step increase
right
um
there is something else specific to this
line item that I need to discuss in
executive session okay so we will Circle
back to that right
yep
project tail light
Roger Taylor we've had two uh We've
serviced two vehicles so far okay
um I've asked the chief if you know are
we still handing out the pamphlets so
we're making sure that we have adequate
Supply and that's a good answer because
I feel like that's not enough next month
we're working with Bexley Car Care to do
a proactive we're going to put a big
press press push out for this that we're
gonna have a clinic where officers can
check for equipment and check safety and
then repairs can happen right away on
site
um
help with helping sorry funded in part
to Bexley Parker and through this line
on them as well so that's just a
slightly different take on it but no
we're anticipating for it to continue
the cost of those repairs was minimal
yeah zero uh per year to date I'm just
we have nothing down there so it's
showing us nothing probably because we
haven't yet transferred it to that
account from whatever light bulb we
bought for it was two dollars yeah so so
far very efficient okay um awesome I'm
just hoping to continue yeah yeah me too
can you tell us just a little bit more
about that like um
like I mean
how do you budget for that like what
sort of numbers do we expect from that
and what is the interface look like for
that
um
the
can you ask that question again I'm
sorry yeah I I'm just I mean it's I know
it's a really low number in the budget
but I mean I think the project is kind
of intriguing for for for me and
probably for a lot of us I'm just
curious like
you know when you visualize that and and
I'm just trying to get an idea of like
what really is on the ground out there
like how are you budgeting for that
um like how many instances like is this
based on instances that maybe we've
historically seen or like tickets have
been issued and then like what's the
interface look like for that so if the
number is pretty low
um what does that mean I guess you know
sorry yeah it's a great question so that
I've been asking the chief the same
questions because we haven't had that
many takers and so the question is are
we giving out the information are we no
longer are we just not pulling over
equipment violations like why is why are
we not having a huge volume yeah we we
made a rough estimate based upon the
number of warnings and citations issue
to remember like a 90 of our warnings
which is still a fairly low number and
then we said of those we estimated a
certain percentage would fit the income
criteria and of those is a certain
percentage and then Columbus's average
cost was something like 60 to 100 per
vehicle
um and we tried to come up with that
first estimate
so I don't know how to answer your
question other than to say yeah
other than you know make it making sure
we're handing them out and then knowing
how many interfaces that we have where
we would hand them out it's hard to
estimate accurately if I am pulled over
for something like that am I given a
voucher am I giving a referrals thing
when you're having a um you're supposed
to be given a flyer okay and the flyer
says
I'm going to pull it up here in a second
it says basically
um you may be eligible for assistance
and helping to repair the issue with
your vehicle please call uh this phone
number it's Mark Juan's phone number
there's a registration form that's part
of it
and it talks a little about what income
eligible eligibility would be for the
program okay and so there's like enough
information that they could on the they
could with this form apply for it yeah
yeah and drop it off
or call or whatever so okay that makes
sense to me and I can send you guys that
um the award it turns out was a BCF I
think you guys presented some of the BCF
the council
that line item and then there was some
pizza for something but we're gonna
figure that out so oh we're talking
about for our house I thought you were
talking about for the tail lights or
whatever
I said man I get pizza while they get
their tail light fixed would be awesome
all right that makes sense thank you
any other questions
okay
[Music]
um
that completes my little paths for the
evening
with that we're going to move on to the
street lighting expenditure detail with
this official
now I have like the first draft draft
and it is Page 21.
now in a narrative um it kind of just
lines out no Personnel changes in this
department
um there's a pay increase that is due to
the ask me contract it's a four percent
um
this account pretty much covers all our
street lights traffic lights and our
alley lights
the only thing I did raise was our
maintenance supplies which is where we
get our street lights
um mostly a streetlight poles from
those the street light poles cost have
went up and I will be making a large
order probably towards the end of the
year just give everybody an idea it took
me 11 months to get my order last year
or I ordered it in 21 and got it in 22.
so everything is still way behind and
we're really starting to see some of the
cost really Skyrocket
but that is the only change I have on
this account
Andy I guess I thought we had completed
our alley light installation we have
there's still a couple more alleys that
I want to hit so I so I left it in the
budget and
um I'm still working on converting some
of the old style Cobra heads over to the
LEDs so that's why I left it in there
okay this is James
James is the out that's where Street
any questions
this is our um service admin account
um
no personal changes
um
there is a pay increase four percent for
cost of living
and really the only thing I changed on
this account
um a small increase in the drug testing
and uh I did raise our operating uh just
because we usually run out towards the
end of the year but other than that
um did not change anything
any questions on service admin
the next is Page 25.
now this would be our uh Fleet
Maintenance our forestry Grounds
Maintenance and I do have quite a few
increases on here
um
this this account covers everything from
our contract worked our contract mowing
work
um our tree contract
um just overall operating expenses the
biggest increase you will see
is the fuel this is a revised number
last year we started out with 95 000.
and with the cost of fuel and gas
they've
drastically increased and we were way
under budget for this year
so I'm estimating that should cover us
for 23 hopefully nothing goes
stay at least hopefully every the fuel
prices stay where they are right now and
we should be fine
um
anything any questions or anything I can
highlight
India seasonal is just that increase in
Pay right what we were seeing kind of
like what Mike was talking about earlier
um we struggle every year to get
seasonals um and I'm hoping at 23 if we
raise the pay that might help but we
really struggled to get get seasonals
inequality seasonals then to be able to
retain them
and to highlight that a little bit we've
we bit out what if we went third party
to do the seasonal work it was north of
fifty thousand dollars fifty six
thousand six thousand so and that
doesn't include everything our seasonals
do so um that was just for watering yeah
I encouraged the department to you know
raise the rates in order to be able to
get the seasonals in uh at a less
expensive cost than going to an outside
contractor
Andy had a question about the vehicle
maintenance going from 110 to 130 000 or
the parts also costing more this is
everything else money we're seeing and
I'm probably gonna sound like a broken
record we are seeing everything increase
from you know vehicle maintenance parts
to all our supplies oil I mean
everything is just skyrocketed
I get it
so when I'm sorry I'll just fire away
with questions but when I look at the
the
um expenditures here like contract work
or Grounds Maintenance
um
and you know other other kind of repair
maintenance items it is the budget
basically set based on how we've spent
money in the past or do you go into each
year at this point in time saying I know
I need to replace this engine or that
widget how is it so are these numbers
based on kind of historical Trends or do
you know going into the year what what
you're going to do
or a little bit of both I would say a
little bit of both
um we are a little behind on our pickup
replacement
um we we have just for an example we
have two Ford Lightnings on order
I was promised one in June and then one
in August and right now I'm gonna be
lucky to get them in mid 23. but with
that would like and that that's part of
our capital okay okay as far as like
just vehicle maintenance
um
yeah I mean we go from year to year
um just historically and then me and one
of the mechanics will kind of evaluate
you know the trucks the pickups and dump
trucks and just I mean we do a pretty
good job because
a lot of our equipment is outdated by
other cities but
the way we take care of them we we have
to make them last okay so okay so it
okay so it's based on yeah at this point
in time it's your best cast the way
you've done in the past
um and then when it comes to like
um and again I'm gonna pick on shrub
pruning I just randomly picked a line
here do we
do you have a like a program in place
where you're working with third-party
contractors to come in and do that
correct and that that would basically
Encompass their plan fees for the the
entire year right okay okay
I think someone else did before coming
back to you many something else in my
hand up money come on sorry no it's good
or Sam sorry I don't look over this side
enough
I already asked one question
oh okay
[Laughter]
and they add two to other questions of
the old purse is going down is that
accurate even though the salary wage has
gone up that would be a feature question
sorry
yeah
um vehicle and grounds maintenance
and Monique do you have another question
while he's looking that up yeah I was
going to say given um
remind me
um
the property on Del Mar that's been
tabled right no it's been purchased
subject to the appraisal and it came in
zoned We Own It awesome congratulations
we now own that are there any um
Associated expenses with getting that
um ready for your service department to
use
well yeah we think we I don't want to
demolish through this Franklin County
CSC
and it's been doing a great job stay on
top of that making sure we have it that
will be a capital budget item you'll see
landscaping and Paving
possibly for it and I talked to him this
this past week and he he does believe
there is funding so I will I have a
better number on what if any what that
would cost the city but we'll be hitting
that uh probably the third third reading
okay thank you
Sam I did think of anything unless
beechers ready nope okay
um you mentioned the lightning trucks
um and how we're kind of pushing the
life on our current uh vehicles uh do
you think we're gonna make it because
there's a chance of course that those
get pushed back even further
unfortunately I don't see that many on
the road
yeah we're um we got a couple good
mechanics and
just I mean not to
I think it was two weeks ago we have a
05 I mean some of our pickups are 2005s
and we had to put a transmission in but
we do all the work in-house so it's
we're fine okay I guess I recall I think
last year's discussion about you know
the bodies of the truck I've seen him
some rusts and stuff I mean like is it I
can hold up or are we mechanically
they're good okay parents wise they
might start to uh look a little rough
but yeah spray paint them more and he's
got a and he's got a pretty zealous boss
who will not let him replace it until
they come in so if you want to push back
more you got to come over this way wheel
me over somebody pushes
we might like to start doing some
Bodywork and paint work so
and also I mean to be fair also I think
we we had a real crunch during covid
which has been alleviated because of our
policy of one worker per truck so that
put us in a real bind and I think it's
been a little bit easier some stuff yeah
I mean we're fine
we make it work yeah
we're just hoping
we're just hoping they honor the
contract price for the year because they
raised you know for the next model year
quite a bit so we're hoping those like
reservations have us in where we want to
be at it's interesting because I've
actually on the municipal attorney's
lists are there have been several cities
to have had I want to say it was Ford
Kansas
um a previously ordered police vehicles
because they're basically saying we'd
either we're not going to honor that
price even though we locked it in
because of the changes in the market so
well that's not optimistic no it's not
but I've only heard it with with Police
Package Vehicles not anything else so
we'll see oh there sounds good
um oh sorry
can you remind us uh The Interchange
maintenance shrub pruning in areas the
contractual work where is that I'm
setting all those right the main focus
would be um right at I-70 Island Creek
um that that would be the main focus
right there and that includes trash
removal mowing
uh pruning
that's a really important line item to
focus on uh again big picture questions
so we started that
this year
we
we think it's been a really good thing
but it's a good question is whether or
not like you guys feel strongly about it
is a
not a requirement that we mow those
interchanges and maintain them ODOT has
said
and they do this throughout the whole
region they don't they maintain them at
a very low level and so when you when
you drive through New Albany or Dublin
or other areas and you see them being
well maintained it's the city's energy
go ahead and then we decided to take
those on more proactively and that is
the 70 getting off that's lots of
on-ramps the um Alum Creek off ramp from
70 and the on-ramp I believe to correct
from Main Street are some of them the
boulevards on some streets
because I feel like I've seen
like yard Barbers doing our Boulevard or
something I don't remember that select
maybe um some of Wolf Park and pump
house or some of the on that contract
work too okay
okay
yeah I mean
in my opinion I think it's important but
I I mean I took some of that sorry I'm
so sorry we took some of that from
Grandma's maintenance over to
contractual work so there was a decrease
okay yeah so that's not all freeway
that's a good point sorry go ahead
no I mean
especially with the Livingston Avenue
plan hopefully coming to fruition within
the next 10 years and keeping that whole
Corridor you know well maintained and
nice coming into our city I think it's
important
so that's a great Point that's an
expectation and beautifies kind of know
where you are versus not yep get off on
that exit a lot and I definitely noticed
the changes right away
I still believe that there's room for
improvement but I think it's kind of
come a long way I concur
yeah
since we're waiting on another uh oh
sorry
well I yeah and I'm not sure I'm trying
to think of the best way to ask this
question but it you know when I look at
this is the first budget I think that
we've looked through where there is a a
significant amount of non-personnel
expenses so kind of tied to Matt's
question
um
you know are there any kind of
initiatives that
um as you talk with folks within your
department where
let's just say there's not consensus
that we should continue to invest and
continue to improve upon
um that you know ultimately some folks
are saying maybe we it's just not worth
our time to go work on this Exeter
off-ramp whatever I guess are there any
examples where it led to some internal
discussions within your department as
you were building out the budget where
again folks just are like why are we
doing this work is is it is it
delivering
um what we would expect it to for the
community
usually the
discussions are with me and the mayor as
yeah as an internal
um as far as like in you know in the you
know Department
once me and the mayor decide they just I
do it how about between you and the
mayor then yeah are there any you know
items that you that that I guess so one
example of that is we just talked about
seasonal work yeah we we saw that we
were not getting the seasonal employees
this season that we wanted yeah
we didn't have the budget to pay more so
we also looked at outside Outsourcing it
and we compared that with in in-house
and we're constantly looking at
outsourced versus in-house was the
freeway program effective are they
mowing the medians to the degree that we
want them because the quality there as
opposed to internal work so we have
those conversations every week well I
think that's what's as I'm again going
through the sort of the first time it
when I think about each of these funds
there are initiatives within a fund and
I think the way in which we tend to go
through the budget it's by line items so
it's hard to see what initiatives we're
talking about and the cost of those
initiatives so I guess that that's where
I'm kind of struggling and trying to
understand what are those initiatives
or projects within your budget that
might cost twenty thousand dollars that
are embedded in this
so the and create a dialogue around
that for for the council
and I don't I don't know what those are
but that that's I think where I'm
struggling is that I see it's difficult
for me to see what are those programs or
initiatives within this this fund
um
so the the budget notes are intended to
show that but I know they don't they
don't always this is an example where
it's not broken out by dollar amount
yeah so I think that's uh if there's um
it's not always practical to do that
with every line on them although we can
do that but if there's certain ones
where you guys want to see a breakout
then we routinely would do that
okay well let me think through it and
see if I just have other questions
around it because I get like I again I
don't know if it is something to the
extent are there initiatives or programs
going on greater than ten thousand
dollars where activities kind of split
between multiple lines on this budget
and just help us understand what is that
Collective effort and maybe this isn't a
good example of that but again that
that's what I'm trying to better
understand as we go through this budget
is
you know when we look at we'll say a
green Initiative for example I think
there's monies that come out of your
budget there's monies that hit other
budgets
um that collectively support that
initiative and that that's what I'm
trying to wrap my head around
so let me think if I can re-ask a better
question or a different question to
um peel out some of the things on my
mind okay
yeah it's like again like no pun
intended with the forest through the
trees with your with yours you know it's
it's we we trip over and we look at
individual lines but it's hard when you
take a step back to say how much is the
green initiative hypothetically costing
the organization as a whole because
there's money sitting within the
different departments
um so
okay I'll I'll we've got more time so a
lot of that is relying on you guys with
the questions that you have so that we
know what to answer yeah so like the two
pages of notes from my update are
intended to show Big Picture changes
yeah but they don't necessarily capture
a question that you might have right or
pre-existing Concepts yeah
Matt or Sam yeah quick question uh in
terms of the contractual work how often
are we bidding that out for every year
okay thank you
Matt
and I I kind of made a half joking
comment about can we turn into a park
but I was gonna I'm sure you guys have
thought about this or maybe you have and
you haven't could we
beautify
the on and off ramps with trees plant
trees or some sort of capital
Improvement project
that would ultimately lower the costs of
the contractual work where we could suck
that back into our operating Personnel
less mowing less pruning and at the same
time plant Evergreens or something just
has that been thought about because like
I go in other cities where I see really
nice off-ramps that they have these nice
and I don't want beds because beds
require weeding but they have these
really you know pine trees all over the
place that are green all year round and
something that you know something like
that so we actually did something just
like that on what What's called the egg
which is the big circular thing that
comes off the freeway and Alum Creek
Drive and it was all planned out it was
all planted and like everything died for
the most part but the trees that you see
remaining were City events
so I was wondering if we have control of
that or if that's ODOT we have license
from ODOT to do that okay
um and make sure they're okay with it
it's on it is one of those things it's
it's on my radar and I've talked a
little bit to Grant about it we have a
history with it that's not been super
satisfactory okay but if you look at the
plantings along the on-ramp from Main
Street down Creek those are actually
planted plantings vaccine maintained
um but yeah juicing up the uh the egg is
something that is talked about from time
to time and okay let's support that I
think that when we do that it tends to
actually be higher I mean it's not lower
maintenance so yeah unless we went for
like a desert Stone that's what I was
thinking yeah yeah I agree yes Andy's
like uh no more footbeds
okay Jess we should tie that into Arbor
Day if we do it yeah yeah and the Grant
from the Baxley Community Foundation I
think you guys should go to the tree
commission and tell them you're excited
about it and they would get so excited
let's do it we can do a Heritage tree
party
feature have we got we do have an
Oprah's answer
no I mean
I'll just quickly yeah
but it looks accurate this year is what
you're saying yeah yeah I wanna oh I'm
sorry sorry about that
um it does but I'm just not sure what
the difference is right now comparing it
to last year well I can sit here and
work on it kind of try to get it done
okay
and then I'll I'll just chime in when I
get it anything else on the popular
vehicle ground maintenance urban
forestry account
all right
Street Maintenance
you guys thought that one was good
working on this new laptop
everything's yeah
hold on
Street man fund specifically is on page
32 starting
I want to um explain a couple things
about this
this fund is
paid for by
a variety of taxes the auto license Tech
gasoline tax is the biggest one
permissive taxes
it also has
um a transfer from the general fund to
help augment those the expenses in this
account
there is a negative ending cash balance
which I pointed out to be sure we that
was an error so that will be repaired
that will result in a little bit larger
of a transfer from the general fund that
will be reflected to the next budget
but Andy is going into the expenditure
piece of that which is on page 33.
on this account it kind of covers this
one would be more or less for my street
department
um and really everything's pretty flat I
made two minor changes one would be I
raised um our curb replacement line item
just because our concrete costs have
went up
and then I did raise the fuel up in this
account also
um other than that everything stayed the
same
with another big major exception which
happened after you made your notes which
is that we moved
Brenton into this account right so the
um you'll see a Personnel increase in
here that's a result of one and a half
employees that were formerly in the
refuse fund uh that I spoke to about at
the beginning of this conversation
so um we do have the option of keeping
them in the refuse fund that would just
mean a bigger increase in refuse
costs at some point wouldn't have to
happen today because we do have balance
in the refugees fund but it it
it warrants a bigger discussion about
refuse rates
can you repeat what
what these folks are doing I just like
I'm trying to think about like the
concept of matching services to the
revenue source
so the the one and a half resources that
are moving over what what exactly are
they doing
so this individual he runs our street
sweeper he empties all our city trash
cans he also does spot little litter
removal on Main Street College
sometimes on Livingston
um very very busy individual
and then there's a half of um
another employee
one and a half there's another
employee wouldn't beat your pulled it up
not friend well based him same so same
stuff okay
Jen
question about the Morsi invoice is the
percentage incorrect I see we had
fifteen thousand dollars this year it's
going down to 35 for next year
but it says it's the 133.3 increase
am I reading am I it is an increase
because there's 15 000. so I actually
have oh my gosh it's the zeros that
threw me I had a question on that and I
think you have an answer right that is
uh we get a yearly invoice uh for
morpsey which is where they invoice us
for helping us with the opwc uh projects
and usually it's one percent of the
project
um it's hard to tell which project we're
going to use but
we usually go over that so I did bump
that up can I ask you a question about
that Annie no sure
because we didn't apply for opwc this
year do you think it'll be different or
because we have active projects because
we have active projects okay
I have a quick question about Morp C
just like in general so we hit build for
their services
yeah so we're talking about a five
million dollar project where we're
getting grant money 1.125
million grant money and then it's your
interest loan so they're the federal age
they're they're given Federal money to
process it they bill us back for a
portion of their processing costs
standard it has to do with the Grant and
Loan
any other questions
right
the only question I have when um
within this budget how much money is
um set aside or maybe just remind me
what the um the the policy is around
capitalization of assets so for example
if you've got to buy a paver I don't
even know how much what something like
that would cost but some of the items
here when do you show the expense here
through the financials versus having it
flow through the capital
um find
that's a good question we don't we're
not been very consistent with that
um especially in the Enterprise funds
which we're not talking about we've
bought Capital assets right out of the
fund I think this is an Enterprise fund
oh three main is fun that's a special
Revenue fund oh sorry special Revenue
fund so my bad surprise you didn't know
that Ben or mayor
um that's good so
yeah the bottom line is mostly it'll get
brought out of the capital
improvements fund but some of the funds
non-general funds have bought their own
Capital with their when they had money
available out of that
do we which I don't know what the what
rat or criteria the mayor establishes
for internally to decide whether he's
going to take it out of because I know
like the wreck has bought capital A lot
of their fund and so is the pool we try
to allocate
we try to allocate capital
purchases to the correct Enterprise fund
um specifically what features alluded to
do is water Sue and refuse
so we buy a pickup truck
um depending on what that's used for it
might be a water sewer pickup truck it
goes to water sealer fund gets split
between them so we had a
last year we had a water sewer pickup
truck actually I think
um
if it's a piece of equipment that gets
used widely for lots of different
departments we will allocate it
if we can appropriately among the
different departments I think Beatrice
point is that's not always been
consistent historically it is
appropriate it's also appropriate to
have it all in the capital fund if we
want to it's just whatever makes the
most sense financially in the instance
of the Street Maintenance fund there's
not a balance Carriage to pay for an
equipment like that this is an operating
fund so it doesn't have like a carried
balance that could take on a capital
cost Capital cost it's already being
subsidized by the general fund the K
Apple cost would get
um taken down by the by the capital fund
so if I look at this and I see like
operating expenses hundred and ten
thousand we've got like a paver and
rollers and heat welder like if I look
at that that would suggest to me we're
buying something tangible versus a
service or are those those are services
that we're paying
we're not buying and again I don't know
what a paper I don't I mean
that would not be for the purchase of
the equipment that would be help
maintaining some of that equipment and
also actually doing some of the paving
work and Patchwork okay all right so it
is this is there is nothing in here that
would suggest there's
you know you're buying tangible no sir
equipment things like that okay nursing
materials got it for science lots of
science lots of signs lots of legible
green signs okay okay
all right any other questions
which brings us to one of our favorites
the road and Alley fund
which is
come on up
soon
thank you
go faster
so just from a broad brush overview this
is the um
Road alleys and sidewalks fund it pays
for the majority of our annual Street
projects that aren't the larger opwc
projects we are building up a reserve in
this account
so if you look at the bottom left number
of 872 thousand dollars that is in
compliance with resolution 2118 where we
came up with a formula for building up a
buffer in the account and then you know
eventually as as costs would go up and
we would have some some reserve and in
fact we're
even in this budget showing a greater
Reserve than that
for a total of a million uh sitting in
the account after
this year's expenditures you'll notice
sidewalk Revenue
we budgeted for 189 400 we know that
um our programs have actually been much
less expensive than that for being
reimbursed so we're pulling that back 50
000 that's a trail from this 2022 year
and we anticipate that in 2024 the
sidewalk Revenue number would be zero
if you guys approve of the concept that
we're taking all the sidewalks and house
the expenditure side is fairly simple
because we only spend money on a few
things but we spend quite a bit on those
few things so Andy if you want to cover
that that's on page
60.
sure mayor so our our first
um our annual Street project that would
be like the mayor Kessler described this
would not be one of the opwc projects
this would be
um usually depends what streets three
four streets some curb did raise that a
little bit then the next line item is
sidewalk that would be our sidewalk
project
um that's really pretty much it on this
account
and the sidewalks this is actually
sidewalks curbs and aprons right correct
yeah
so that would be curb replacement uh Ada
ramps and sidewalks and that includes
new sidewalks that we're building up yes
sir
go ahead
the street the street program does that
cover just resurfacing that's not like
Mill and fill or anything that's just
coding no it would depend what street it
is
um you know which we select it would be
Milling Paving uh overlay it could be
some spot repair full Dev okay just
depends what streets are on the project
track ceiling okay
okay
um that one what's the name of that one
surface that we tried out uh the Sami
seal yeah well they're not we like that
not that one the other one Onyx yeah
onyx
but yes that as well
how do we decide if we're gonna go seek
funding for
these types of Street repairs or
resurfacing
cover that I thought you cover that okay
um we look at the water break history
that we have on different streets and
then we look at the age of the surface
of the street
and we look at how those would score on
the most common funding source which is
opwc that we could get
um and then from that we determined with
that it would be a grant sought Grant
supporter program
um so these would be the ones that
aren't covered under those none of those
programs as you know the grant programs
of their five million projects yeah
often it could be less or more than that
but that's kind of a sweet spot
um
and
that does obligated to Future debt
um
there are there is federal funding
available through Morp C called
attributable funding that's just for
streets
um but that tends to be for higher
volume streets where you're not doing
any other utility work because of the
age of our infrastructure we don't tend
to do that we tend to do the utility
work as well it makes a lot more sense
and it's Federal funding it's it's
that's that's five to seven year process
that we've seen happen on Cassidy those
are bigger projects you're doing like
tons more surveying work a lot of
right-of-way analysis it's much more
expensive to get that money just doesn't
make sense for us for the most part
do we
I was just sidewalks that we're talking
about here are those there's one that's
happening a section in the North and
then there's one in the South the other
one is Lake South East
right
between
Kelsey and Vernon that would be part of
the project
it's part of this weapon that would be
part of the relining projects yeah right
and is it our goal then to
continue down Charles further to the
West
some of those are opwc projects some of
them will not be a BWC projects
um I think
we're trying to get that done next year
let's try to get it done this year but
I'm hoping we can't make any false and
Promises I'm gonna say yeah let's let's
go
Charles has not been done right for
between Vernon and Chelsea yeah right
I don't remember do you remember the
cross streets at this point because it's
between between Vernon and Chelsea that
is done it's it's done all the way to
um Montres it's not to Mantra it's not
even to Remington yet it's it's that
halfway I just I just remembered last
year Vernon it's between Vernon and yeah
for a certain absolutely so we're
someone was asking about that those are
part of currently the Remington project
right hits those
those cross streets and then we have to
go we're going to end up going further
east off of these funds if I recall
correctly
um but we're waiting so that's all part
of a you know it takes time to get the
money in sure it's a much more efficient
way to do it so we're doing it smart and
we're doing it I mean
we're also looking at I mean we have
like we're constantly assessing new
sections right now we're looking at uh
you know Stanwood north of rural
um
Del Mar if it ever makes sense it's a
tough one just geographically with the
way that that street works but there are
other other obviously other streets that
don't have sidewalks
but let me I know right I know let me
tail onto that just a little bit because
yeah I that is something that residents
ask about a lot that live in that area
it makes a huge significant Improvement
to that area otherwise people are
walking on those they're like alleys
they don't have drainage they don't have
sidewalks and things like that so I'll
I'll put in my it's a project we started
on purpose see project we're gonna
finish we're excited to do it we have
added more sidewalks in the past five
years to Bexley than have been added to
Bexley in 50 years and we're going to
keep doing it so I know look at me
smiling still on my radar I love it all
right here I hear the president Mark I'm
saying he's going to predicate his vote
on the budget on whether or not Charles
gets finished I'm saying I feel a little
better about voting for it but noted
yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna hit a couple
other things since I got the microphone
turned on and one is that I really
appreciate I really appreciate you
uh putting the note in here about
resolution 21 18. I I believe my name's
on that one me or Steve Kai's and that
was a covenant that we made with the
city when they approved that Levy that
we would be good stewards of that money
and so I I appreciate that I want to
make sure that Matt McPeak is fully
aware of what that is that's a
accounting stochastic
thing that I don't understand but I
really want to make sure that we stay on
that because uh I know that the way that
we collect the money isn't the way that
we spend it I know we don't want to hit
the future and say oh all the extra
money we collected we went ahead and
spent it we want it to be there and not
have to go back to them so I appreciate
that on there I appreciate the fact that
that's uh in the budget like this and
that we continue to keep an eye on that
because I think it was important that we
that we do stay on that every year and
make sure that we we do that he do well
not to I know you have more items there
but do we have anything else like that
that we should be talking about
or is that the one example where we
expected to create a piggy bank
we do it informally but I think it's
only one where it's it's in uh it's in
resolution form okay
um the just so you know this is 2019
here this is actually our final year of
building up that balance doesn't mean it
won't continue to build uh because we're
not going to just pave streets that
don't need to be paved
um this year in fact we had some streets
on the list that we took out because I
felt like we felt that they could take
another year of beating up so we're not
going to spend the money just because we
haven't but I think it's been really
good to have that guidance and um
you know we'll continue to be smart with
that fund I do too I think people uh are
rightly cynical of government when they
ask for more money and they say well
watch it and stuff like that and then
come back later and go well we don't
have enough money and I think that's one
thing that
is distinct with with us and the way
that we did this was we I kept an eye on
that yeah man
do we need any formal action to extend
that you said it expires this year 2023
it doesn't expire as I think you said
this is the way the last year we go from
the black to the yeah so it's the last
year that we're building into a reserved
fund balance
um
the reason for that is we're looking at
this we pitched as kind of like a
10-year approach to our streets and then
we would revisit it after that time
period so we built up this buffer and
then as the costs increase it's almost
like an inflationary hedge it's like an
inflationary account if that makes sense
okay so we won't really know
um
we will project that as well as we can
I feel very confident that we're in good
shape for the 10-year period that we
targeted okay but we also don't know
what inflation looks like good it's
worse than we thought it would be we're
about to get there in a second yeah
okay I shouldn't have any action on it
and then I'll throw uh just a
preemptive support for the uh the change
in the sidewalk funding only because I
mean I'd be interested in hearing
counter arguments against it if other
people feel that way I know there are
probably some viable counter arguments
but to me this is one of the things that
you know as soon as I became elected
city council I heard about constantly
from people that they don't like the way
that this is structured that they feel
it's somewhat unfair and it's it's kind
of a hassle so I I would I would be in
favor of this change foreign
yeah this is a great time to talk about
it Andy do you want to talk a little bit
about what our experience has been ever
since we've we've been running this
program again now for like
nine years or something I think it's
been a while
um right now we're at the point to where
we've cycled through the city a couple
times and really our sidewalks are in
pretty good shape
um
when this does
um you know come around when the
residents do get a letter or build
um it
creates some unhappy campers and there's
been quite a few phone calls so it
should make the residents very happy and
I don't think it's really going to cost
the city a whole lot more money
yeah I feel very comfortable this is
something we could take on board
um I do warn you if we do it we own it
you know we there was a little waffling
about it because of some resident
uh
discussion about the language after the
this is before any of our time including
my time about the levy language back
when the first levia happened
um and so the city said they'd take it
and we'd take it in house we didn't
really do it we just because we didn't
have the money for it and so then
um Council made a hard decision and said
look we we said we would take it
in-house after the fact without having
the money to do that and and so we're
gonna go back to the old way which is
the current way which is assessed by the
frontage of your house it does
disproportionately impact Corner
property owners in accordance not like a
corner lot necessarily has a higher
market value so it's
um
I just think this is a good way for it
to be uh an even application of our of
our uh City infrastructure project and
having said all that I think that like
it's a it is a shift and so I want to
make sure everyone's comfortable with
that if we're gonna do it
now I'll uh second choice preemptive
support
I'll support this
I think it's a great idea
skip down the road for some reason the
sidewalks could go back up to like the
2020 numbers or even before that you
know back when they were more 150 or 200
which we don't think they should because
again we have a good feel for the
condition that they're in that's
something that I would anticipate we
would start to do a little bit of
general fund transfer in to assist with
it
um as opposed to depleting the street uh
resources
I have questions about the annual Street
program and and you know essentially
year to date
and I apologize I tend to get into
rabbit holes here and you may have
already spoken to this but we spent
about 438 000 a year to date
um and we're looking to increase that
essentially
you know double what what we've spent
year to date so
do we have projects identified that
already make up a substantial amount of
that one million dollars or
is some of that it it just seems to be a
large increase to where we're trending
this year
where we're trending at this year right
now there's still many invoices that
still have to okay that come in that
still need to be paid
um as far as what was budgeted for 22
um
and what I was estimating for 23 we've
not identified the streets yet I always
like to wait till after the winter just
to see what street gets hit the worst
and what issues can pop up
um but yeah the number you're seeing
even though it's it's accurate by
beaches numbers but we still have
invoices we've got it okay so that the
work's been done we just haven't
received right invoices so that number
will be right at what we budgeted okay
okay
anyone wants to come along during our
pavement condition uh rating drive along
it's pretty fun we do that in the late
winter it's exciting it is exciting uh
Pleasant Ridge is a street that we know
we're gonna do for example
um we didn't do it this year because of
a gas line project it's supposed to
happen but it's there
um so uh we did some of it a few years
ago this is the rest of it um so there
are streets that we know are just
already there but what we there there
are others that like they'll jump
forward in the list after the winter uh
compared to Heather and I held Pleasant
ridgeback just because I didn't want to
pave it then a gas company coming next
year and tear up our neighborhood so
early on that project by the way
yeah okay well
you know the questions
all right okay real quickly we're gonna
this is a new exercise we're trying so
this is only the reason we only did one
Enterprise fund here attached to the
budget is uh the uh
sorry the agenda is the road and Alley
fund debt
analysis
so you can see the different sources of
debt
um
the from a variety of projects that have
occurred over the years
um and you can view when they drop off
um
there's a pretty substantial there's a
the first drop-off that occurs actually
occurs in 23 because there was 2021 the
2020 reissued into of debt had a
bigger kicker in 2022 for some reason
and then we have our the next kind of
major drop-off occurs in 2031
um and that's when our 2020 refunding uh
goes away if I recall the 2020 refunding
is refunding a big push for Street
projects that occurred during Brennan
Administration for we were behind on
streets and we borrowed against the
project
the 2020 refunding yeah
no much of that was the police station
no this is for the road and Alley fund
oh the road and Alley fund okay I'm
sorry
um
2026. Harvey and Brandon did like a five
point to six million dollar streets
project remember and borrowed against
the red and Ally fund for it it was a
very big project I do yeah you know what
I'm talking about oh I'm sure you're
correct I just I'm not remembering it
right now but uh it was 2000 and I want
to say 2009
2010-ish around that time frame
um so that's good news is that it's
going to eventually kind of go down as
costs are going up
um unless we're continuing to accrue
opwc debt which we
um which does ADD but as you can see
it's not nearly as impactful as that
2020 refunding so you look at these opwc
projects they range in debt service most
of them from 12 to 40 000 as they add
the 2020 refunding is
um you know 280 290 000 so I'm excited
for that to make its way through the
system
um and I think that portends pretty
positively for the account and it might
actually you know that'll end up buying
us some more time on the fund as well
that's the only one that has an interest
rate is 1.7
um it is callable so we could pay it
early we don't have the money to do that
but we could uh but 1.7 is also less
than we're receiving in our investment
uh in our investments at the time at the
moment
anything else you'd like to highlight on
that Mr auditor
no I I mean we I I love having these
debt schedules here I think it's great
to see
um the the cash balances that offset it
um
so I think this is it's really important
that city council and the community has
visibility to just just what we have
here and that is not only the income
that's coming in but the debt that that
we have tied to it so I think it's
important that we we spend time talking
about about these items and you know I
personally
um am getting used to we'll say City
finances I'm a custom more accustomed to
taking on debt to match
um
you know
um how we spend money with the life of
an asset so
it might seem contrarian but I I tend to
look at this and think should we be
borrowing money instead of using cash
um so you know nonetheless those will be
the the debates and conversations that
we'll have
um in the coming years
just a quick comment yes I I just
couldn't remember the biggest chunk of
that was the 2010 bond series that they
did so
I tend to have the opposite approach to
you which is like yeah I look at when
the debt was created and I like you know
to me it's a
um for us
you know if we have a reliable source of
income coming in or it's a specific
activity and it can fund what we needed
to fund then I think that we use it for
that
it's a good conversation yeah
just just curious is it would it be
worthwhile to do like a master planning
of the streets to see you know where
we're going to be 20 years from now
inflationary and you calculate it all
out I don't know to give a road map for
the future and you know kind of The Way
We Were storing away acorns and that
other fund you know so that's exactly
what we did for this that's what that's
what that Reserve is based off of is a
fundamental needs analysis for a road
and Alley fund which led to the levy
rate which led to the amount of income
coming in
um it's something that could get
updated
um
projects in 2022 2023 like the roads and
how I didn't know if it'd be worthwhile
it would take a enormous effort to do it
I don't doubt that the key is that like
so we maintain roads to a certain degree
costs are variable over time it's not
100 like we don't know what they're
going to be in the future we know that
we have a defined source of funding that
was based upon the last time we had to
seek funding and so we can update those
on a rolling basis if we wanted to it's
not that hard it's just
what does it do for us we're not going
to repair a road that has sinkholes and
we're not going to not repair it that
needs repair
um
we're not at that point at least you
know I think the question is
we could spend a lot of time with those
analyzes anything you want we'll do it
I'm sorry we have them it's just like
[Laughter]
so these stat this stat is only opwc
debt so we're not most of our roads we
aren't doing
right and we are in fact actively
talking about opwc debt forecasting
that's why we took a pause this year we
need to be more active talking about it
but it's something like I didn't want to
proceed on any more PWC projects until
this is not not nothing but these 20 30
40 000 additional ads are nothing
compared to the water and sewer ads and
so that's a big picture when you need to
be digging into pretty deeply
I think Laurie and steers through that
conversation next spring
was this a helpful format is this kind
of what you had in mind I mean I know
it's our master
single source of the truth yes for you
guys is it helpful to you to see it is
there anything else you'd like to see in
this presentation we'll just talk about
that
okay
cool
all right that is our that's as much
damage as we're gonna do tonight on this
thank goodness
Mr official I think you can do the
consent agenda and we can start the
meeting one last thing
whoa on 41.22 if we want to keep a list
of uh like running amendments uh we need
to change the calendar calendar year to
the show January 1st 2023.
as well because it still says 22. yeah
yeah you literally
turned your head and he ran
he's peeling out right now in the
parking lot
yeah
that'd be awesome thank you I just ran
through the stoplight
thank you
Andy great job
all right go ahead all right consent
agenda meeting minutes from October 11
2022
uh any comments or questions on the
consent agenda from City Council
Annie from the audience
if not uh Mr Mickey Peak will you oh no
wait can I get him oops
moves into uh adopt the consent agenda
can I get a second actually second
uh motion by Me seconded by Mr Klingler
now Mr mcpeek can you call the roll for
us Mr Marcelino yes Mr Markham yes
Mossad
yes
Mr Klingler yes Miss lamke yes Miss
fibol yes and Miss Robinson yes and sent
agenda passes thank you all right on to
third readings third reading of
ordinance 37-22 authorizing the city of
Bexley to submit a morpsy attributable
funds roadway Improvement project
application
applications okay uh to the Mid-Ohio
Regional Planning Commission for
consideration for funding within the
transportation Improvement program and
to declare an emergency MS lamke
thank you this authorizes the city to
submit an application to Morp C they are
requiring applications to be authorized
by October 29th so we had just a few
more days which is why it's got the
emergency language in here
um does anybody have any questions I
know we've covered this fairly well at
past readings
no updates or anything on this
nope there's a lot of details to come
after the application and whether or not
it's approved
any questions from the city council on
this
any questions from the audience
if not
I motion to adopt ordinance 37-22
someone motioned second
wait who's seconded Mr Klingon
second by Mr Klingler and Mr McPeak Mr
Marcelino yes Miss feibel yes Miss
Robinson yes Miss lamke yes Assad yes Mr
Markham yes Mr Klingler yes ordinance
passes thank you
all right third reading of ordinance
38-22 to revise the Bexley codified
ordinances for the protection of poll
workers and to declare an emergency Mr
Marcelino I think we've discussed this
uh several other communities are have
similar ordinances in effect at this
point
um I think there are six cases of this
some of the West uh western side of our
country uh this past within the past
week or so Arizona and Texas had some
issues with people sitting around with
guns outside uh ballot drop boxes uh you
know and I understand the idea that
there are federal laws that prevent some
of this but the same type of person to
sit outside about perhaps with a gun is
the same type of person to try and give
perhaps our uh our police some issues in
regards to constitutional rights Etc so
I'd rather give them some extra teeth
with a local ordinance to strengthen
those protections for our poll workers
ballot boxes make sure everybody feels
safe voting this November and I know we
have a lot of our community members that
will be serving as poll workers as well
so let's work to keep them safe
including perhaps Patty Markham I don't
know if she's doing it again but she is
a 15-hour shift and
yeah yep and her she got her twin sister
to do it too so they'll be both out
there happy to answer questions and Mr
President I was asked last time about
the penalties so there is a penalty
provision that specifically mandates
jail time in first section the rest of
it since its misdemeanors would just
fall default to uh the penalties from
the various misdemeanors that might
apply in our code
any more comments or questions from City
Council
yes this lamp key
um Mark given that do we need to add a
phrase at all like to you know and other
penalties as allowed for by law or
statute or anything like that the way it
is okay my only other change was um and
it's more grammatical is changing
anything from harassment of an elected
official to harassment of election
official but that's probably grammatical
I don't care several times it's not
grammatical
say that's an important distinction
it certainly was intended to be election
yeah but I guess it didn't make it that
way so
so actually I think
yeah go back up it's yeah the second
Oh I thought you yeah because this is
the recital we're just going to change
that yep
says election in 639.19 there
he says election
yeah my guess is
my guess is I cut and pasted it correct
and one of the correct is and I made the
mistake you wanted to wear as is so
um I I don't think that requires an
aware as a motion to amend I think that
is clerical
right you're just looking out for us too
weren't you mark yeah that's it I'm
trying to look out for you guys thanks
subliminally
uh other comments or questions from City
Council
comments or questions from the audience
uh if not
I moved to approve for and it's 38-22.
motion to approve
second seconded by Ms Robinson Mr McPeak
in Miss Robinson yes Mr Klingler yes Mr
Marcelino yes Assad yes
viable yes Mr Markham yes ordinance
passes thank you
all right moving on to Second readings
ordinance 39-22 to authorize the
supplemental appropriation for Jeffrey
preschool and Recreation programs to
calendar year 2022 introduced by Ms
lamke
thank you I think we've got some
amendments to this one
let me make sure it's the right yeah I
think then I think it's it's not the
right one
moment
they all get added together
the last draft that beat your scent I
think had them all
oh wait did you add the Ferndale
Mayfield So I did that okay
now
hold on a moment sorry guys
I wanted like 500.
[Laughter]
again we need an audit of the snack
everybody write down what you eat and
then we're gonna compare it to what's
actually in there
okay this is weird the version got it
disappeared
well no I can just explain we it's it's
the second reading event yeah so can we
explain what's on the proposed amount of
some of its cheers some of it's not
so the proposed amendment
is not here at all
okay there are two proposed amendments
this is not this is not the proposed
amendment
okay two two items one is a um
additional appropriation for seasonal
not seasonal special event over time
to the tune of five thousand
um to accommodate the fact that we have
exceeded our special event over time
it's um set for 10 for the year and
we're we have bumped up against it with
the amount of events
that we've had and then the other one is
to go ahead and appropriate 55
000 from the uh infrastructure fund so
we have two million dollars in the
infrastructure fund 5000 from the
infrastructure fund for the purpose of
conducting the phase two tests on the uh
I believe eight properties that do not
yet have phase two tests where the phase
one test showed that it was most likely
that they were contaminated that's part
of our public our environmental nuisance
action that we're pursuing
um it covers the costs on all those
properties
um
and I would love to get started on this
year because that's what we said we
would do and I realized as I was going
to start engaging that consultant that
we had in that budgeting for it so
um and again that's the process we start
we we got the quote for that and started
down that path after the this budget was
crafted
so what you're saying though is that
that will be in writing amendments in
front of you but yeah that's those are
the changes that would be added to this
yeah we apologize we had some we had two
different amended versions looking
around and I think that they canceled
each other out so it's just just more of
an overall question covered financial
support I see that in a second whereas
when does that sort of expire or does it
ever
so Mike talked about this at the last
meeting I thought
um we received around six hundred
thousand dollars of financial support
it's phased
um is that the arpa funza not the
it's not cares it's the our funds right
through the state though yeah separate
from separate from our ARP money okay
I'm sorry so we have 1.4 in ARP this is
okay in addition to that
from the state so it's to help support
programs
um
today not not like retrospectively
um Mike thinks that we can capture
a good amount of that 600 000 we don't
know exactly how much we'll be able to
capture ultimately
it's a very vague answer because I think
we still don't know exactly how the
program is going to end up working okay
I didn't know if it was like December
21st December 31st of 2022 that we have
to have the monies allocated or spent or
2023 or is there any sort of
help but it's ongoing okay I think we're
phase two and three or something right
now
okay
Keep It Coming yeah all right
yeah someone's gonna pay for it at some
point but keep it coming now
sorry is that an editorial kind of uh
and then the section 225 Grand is that
that's offset by revenue from those
programs
save it for election day
all right ordinance second reading oh
I'm sorry are we good uh I'm not sure
how are we good any more comments or
questions
all right
second reading of ordinance 40-22 to
amend 2022 pay rates for part-time
dispatchers and retroactively apply set
rates in order to be consistent with
increases negotiate as part of the
dispatchers collective bargaining
agreement effective January 1st 2022 Ms
Lemke
thank you as previously discussed this
is to amend retroactively the part-time
dispatcher pay rates back to January 1st
2022 it's applicable to those part-time
dispatchers that are still with us at
the time of Passage
mayor or Ben and a mayor or Mark
anything else you'd want to add
the pay was flattened the budget it was
supposed to be Revisited once the
contract was approved and it didn't get
Revisited we only became aware of that
recently at our
yes miserable
how many part-time dispatchers do we
have I recall a four okay five the chief
said five earlier I was just at a
meeting today well fifth one actually
has become a full-timer I just happen to
be at a meeting today that's why I love
that you know that thank you
yes Matt and with this uh Amendment to
the pay rate we don't need any
um there's enough money in the budget
it's got our the cost okay
so much more
Matt told me
so you were totally wouldn't uh
what are the estimated cost of that I
think we covered last time is about two
thousand dollars yeah could this be a
consent agenda item next time
yeah any objections to that
all right Natalie consent agenda ahead
how about the proposed amendment you
guys haven't seen you guys want that in
the consensus absolutely yeah come on
laughs
you guys are testing me tonight all
right are we under first reading sir yes
all right first reading of resolution
9-22 confirming the mayor's appointment
of members to the recreation board the
tree and public gardens commission the
citizen review board and the
environmental sustainability
advisory committee executive board
introduced by Ms Robinson
this one's pretty straightforward we
have a handful of folks who will be
taking over
um some of the positions on the rec
board train commission or tree and
public gardens commission
crb and this sustainability
environmental sustainability advisory
committee
um any of the new folks I'm sure we will
be asking to come but I think a lot of
these names are pretty well known uh to
us and I know we look forward to having
them on board serving the city
anything additional you'd like to add
well stated
um the one thing I would like to
recognize and we'll meet yes Lisa
goldsand but environmental sustainable
ability
advisory committee
um you know had recently been kind of
restructured to have chair Vice chair
secretary the the chair uh became a
part-time employee of the city so
um fake into that position it's such an
egalitarian group that they really had a
hard time figuring out the hierarchy
that they actually got there oh so we
have a chair uh who kind of emerged
through the through the vacuum and Lisa
has really stepped in really proactively
as a as one of the Grassroots members
makes perfect sense so I think it's kind
of a testament that it's working pretty
well
Supreme Public Gardens commission Larry
Hellman
who served for a very very long time as
a member and we're going to be doing
some things to recognize that asking to
take an alternate position his grandkids
are becoming really active in sports
throughout the state and so I think he's
hoping to focus more on that and Mary
McMahon comes to us from the Master
Gardener program at OSU who's also an
active volunteer with the Baxley
Bloomers brings a real nativist aspect
to plant material to the degree
commission so it should be interesting
who uh
you know Jen mentioned meeting some of
them who do we expect to call in here
Larry Hellman for sure he never met him
yeah yeah please I was good sounds
intriguing uh scheduling Eric Acton Mary
McMahon Lisa Kelly and Lisa goldsand as
new appointees does that sound uh Grable
to everybody
any admissions or changes to that
suggested thank you we will also have a
cic appointment
resolution coming up in December
um I was a little late posting those
December 31st uh roll-offs so they're on
the website
um and I'm going to be getting with the
members that are currently up for
appointment to see if they want to
continue and see where we're going with
them
foreign
all right first reading of ordinance
42-22 to create section 265 uh naming
and renaming policy and to adopt the
naming and renaming policy attached as
exhibit a introduced by Ms Robinson
so if I'm not mistaken
um this the inspiration for this
ordinance was a Heritage tree to be
named after Troy Markham perhaps I'm
doubting this yeah that sounds like a
cover story well it should be
um this is a pretty straightforward
there has been
um an informal process that the city has
gone through when
um naming a facility or a park or any
kind of
um uh what's the there's a third
Criterium or third thing I'm missing but
um this just formalizes that uh that
process thank you
um this formalizes that process it's
pretty straightforward
um if you look at the um attachment it
lays out very specifically what
um what the guidelines will be in the
process will be for naming renaming or
when those names should or could fall
off but it's it's very well
um put together and pretty
straightforward so I encourage everybody
to look at that for next time and
perhaps name a Heritage tree after Troy
Markham
look forward to that any comments or
questions about this
uh uh did you guys were you gonna say
something uh if I can talk real quickly
about the process which actually Mark
probably knows more about than I do um
this was a uh
so that there's been a group working on
this and I think one would be grateful
to them for that Jim Wilson spearheaded
it I believe uh but other tree
commission members they pulled in Rec
board members they pulled in
um was the city council member involved
I'm not sure Mark got involved later on
as they're trying to figure out and they
looked at other similar policies
throughout Ohio and Beyond and um
you know as as much as I don't love the
idea of a new committee the way that
they've been structured I think it
allows us to um administer it pretty
effectively
the board
is made up of standing members of other
committees so if it gets called on to
make a decision then it gets
um you know it gets assembled kind of ad
hoc at will and then ultimately major
major features come to council for
approval stuff like um
if somebody wants to rename Jeffrey Park
to Markham Park
which really by the way is illiterates
kind of a little bit flows closed I
guess yeah uh then that would go to
council uh after the this group has uh
made a recommendation on it so I think
it provides a nice really elegant
interface
um Everybody kind of has a piece of it
and then ultimately it also has a really
good
um provision for if
after a park named person falls out of
favor for whatever reason you know maybe
it's been disclosed that uh just say
Pete Rose Way mayor Schneider was uh in
the 60s you know funneling funds too
the uh landfill at Ferndale Mayfield or
something that they could uh we could
change the name so that was a joke that
didn't happen but as far as we know
let's leave that out of the minutes yeah
we'll make up names next time
so it's good read
um
Jim Wilson put a lot of time in this as
I say this is right in their wheelhouse
uh that's good yeah so take a look
all right that's ordinances it would be
really cool table DeLoreans are staying
that way but one of them 35 22 I believe
is staying on the table while we get
some more information
1422 perhaps though
that's up to Mr Klingler though
is there movement does does council wish
me to take it off the table
is there any
do you want to talk about
we sure
I will move to take
ordinance 14-22 off the table
yeah is there a second
second all right all in favor say aye
aye oh the same sign
a lot of conviction for this one it is
off the table
a council member reach out to me
said that they would wish to discuss
this tonight
Jess
she lasted sure
um after having some a little more time
with us I think that um just two two
areas of this ordinance that I think
that we I would like to see us uh amend
would be
um the ground mounted solar panels
um that piece of it I would love to
actually see see that start
um with six feet
and the reason for that
um just has to do with the size of
where our fencing is in Bexley now we've
just gone over the budget so I don't
want to say this incorrectly but we're
are we at eight feet height for fencing
six by right six eight in like a
commercially
adjacent property okay
so my research and I could be wrong but
the average uh ground mounted solar
panel I found was 5.4 feet by 3.25 and
the average residential house will need
to have 16 to 21
um solar panels if there are 2 000
square foot home
um so I just think that we need to think
about that piece
when it comes to the Aesthetics of
sharing
your yards with your neighbors
um today I was sitting in my office
thinking about this and I've got
five homes for going through
construction projects right now I'm all
for it beautify your homes thank you for
doing that
but um a lot of fencing is down and I
was just thinking about
that this is this is great
um for the city of Bexley to have solar
panels I'm off for that I think that's
where we should be but I just think we
have to think about what that means to
thy neighbor and what we're we're all
looking at in the green space and in the
backyards so I think six feet is a nice
compromise to this ordinance to start
with
um on the ground Mountain solar panels
and then I think the other piece that I
liked the mayor did a nice job of
sharing with us after our last meeting
Arlington's
um passage of what they're doing with
ground mounted solar panels and they
talk about the aesthetic consideration
that ground-mounted solar panels shall
be fully screened from adjacent
Properties by fencing or structures
detached garages neighboring accessory
structures or a combination of Evergreen
and planting I I think that's something
that we need to consider keeping in the
ordinance too so those are just two
things that I would like to see amended
um and I think that's uh would be
uh nice to consider for this ordinance
to be able to support it
all right so let's throw that out there
a little bit I think uh Miss five will
you have some comments
is your microphone on
thank you I just have a question under
the exemptions and and forgive me if I'm
reading it incorrectly
but thank you scroll down just a little
bit
the solar panel is less than two square
feet in area
are exempt from
if they're two square feet in area
so it's it's just like a little panel
for your like your ring camera or
something like that oh yeah so but it
could be it could be
10 feet tall
yeah
I don't know how it would be
uh I I just I just well I'm just gonna
say that I think well I think there's a
lot of these probably in the city uh
like a little utility panels that are
powering cameras or things like that and
you can see it goes up you know around
where you'll see them tall is there are
a lot of flag poles maybe not a ton of
flagpoles but there are flagpole lights
that have solar panels on them yeah
they're pretty small but they're it
would be pretty high up there okay
foreign
so can does that do you have that did
you send that verbiage or is it
trying to look it up can you read it
again
I have it right here
so there's two ways to do this one is um
to
put this in the design guidelines so
it's part of the staff review process
which would be consistent with with the
design guidelines
would have in them or
um
it we can put it in the code which
whichever way you guys would want to go
with it
is there something there's is there
something in the code already though
right
there's some stuff for uh oh you're
talking about the
go ahead yeah so there are General
guidelines for roof mounted solar and
the code that do talk about some design
features but then the design guidelines
themselves would go deeper into that
um
yeah
um I mean I'd like to see it in the code
and the design guidelines can specify
what type of screenage
or design
the design guidelines are going to be
sort of a fluid thing out of out of our
view anyway aren't they right yeah and I
I think sometimes we notice boards
struggling with that
should get your microphone on too
okay
so do you want to say that what you just
said I think sometimes when we have you
know members coming from a lot of
different
areas of their life and you know
sometimes they have to be reminded what
the design guidelines are so I agree
with Matt I'd like to see in the code
so and then so the proposal at least
what we're looking at now is that we
would put these in the code and
um
we might get some feedback from
Administration here
of what you see
if we adopt this yeah I I'm really
uncomfortable with this language so I'd
like to take it back if you guys want to
vote on it the reason I am is because
fully screened from adjacent properties
is really strong language so that means
that like
I don't know if I like the word Foley
yeah that means like if I'm up on my
second floor window looking down and I
can see a solar panel then it's
violating the code which I think isn't
realized I hear you I would agree I see
a lot from my second point
I'd like to be more intentional but yeah
about making sure that that's not a
problem you want to take it back to uh
Karen and Kathy think through it with
staff like what does that really mean is
there alternate language that would
accommodate what you guys were talking
about yeah I understand what you're
trying to get at I agree with it I'm
totally fine six feet sounds great
that's cool
effect
comments yeah I like both of these
changes by the way my question is do we
have any idea
given the size of lots and Bexley how
what percentage would be ground mounted
versus roof mounted do we have I mean
are we probably just a guess but
so far zero percent and we just that's
not a thing yeah it's unlikely we have
small Lots it's unlikely that it's going
to become a commonplace occurrence this
is almost it is the protective yeah
section of our code just to say if it
happens here are the standards in place
absolutely okay thanks yeah yeah Sam
quick what would we want to then Outlaw
Brown now because it seems like that's
kind of difficult and then if somebody
wants to request when we can allow
perhaps consider a variance or some
degree
we have I mean what's interesting about
it is we have not in the past outlawed
it so you could have it today
um that doesn't mean you can't outline
in the future it feels regressive to me
I think that there are there are lots in
Baxley where it could make sense down
the road so I'd love to have a code in
place that can accommodate that
I can think of
some lots of around Creek that have a
lot of land and it wouldn't be a big
deal necessarily to have some ground
mounted solar back there yeah
um
that's probably the most likely scenario
anyway so like just think through like
can we think through that scenario and
accommodate it legally so that it's not
you know a new new review every time an
application comes in but I guess that's
the thing is that how many
new you know that I don't think you're
going to have that many new reviews so
just it's an idea just because I as well
have concerns about ground mounted I
don't care if you throw them on your
roof or whatever and I don't know how
you're going to get that language
to truly cover it without making it up
for interpretation so where somebody
might not end up being happy with you
know what I'm saying in that regards is
that I think that's you know by not
saying fully screened
it's going to State something else
that'll be less
restrictive but then that's going to
leave it open to more interpretation and
more disagreements more issues that come
before us and that would be much more
comfortable with somebody saying hey I
do have a property where I can do this
on the ground
um and here's my plan for it do you guys
agree with it and but we can talk about
it let's see what you come back with but
just not concerned
okay yeah just thinking uh well first of
all if we take out the word fully
and just screened
um chubby screen shabby screen from
adjacent property so I mean does that
help
our comfort level with
first floor versus second floor and you
know it is screened to a certain extent
but not you know I still see with my
drone if I may I think fully is
redundant
say screen and it means the same thing
it's screen discrete whether it's fully
screened or screen well but I could see
what they say fully screened versus you
know like Ben said if you're in your
second floor it's not screened from your
property you can still see into the back
here you can still see
screen is what we're discussing and the
level thereof and how that's
accomplished okay but fully a lot of
money
and and I am not by any means judging
where people throw their dollars but I
don't know if I'd throw it fully
screened
and this might be taking it to the end
degree but is there any sort of should
we give any thought to how many you can
have per Green Space in your backyard I
don't know like a lot of coverage ratio
yeah like a lot coverage ratio because
if you I mean somebody could just put up
solar panels in their whole entire and
they have zero grass or let me find out
if it counts towards like I thought it
did count towards lot coverage ratios so
let me get a uh a read on that Mark
looks itchy well no I think Sam's
exactly absolutely right you take out
the word fully it starts to be screened
I still like we you still have the
debate or discussion about what does
screened mean I mean I I think they're
you know you know the word adequately
screen might be might make sense because
there's going to have to be some
discretion because you know the
screening the screening application or
the screening requirement is not going
to be universally applicable to each
program no it's not going to be apply
the the same to each property depending
upon the situation but it can get absurd
because if you put language in there and
it'll to say just or screened or
adequately screened and then oh oh it's
not quickly screened because I can see a
I can see a corner of it from my second
floor bathroom if the light is just
right I mean I'm using an absurd example
but but I guess my point is
two two things one is adequately
screened or whatever just screened is
going to have to be subject to
interpretation I believe because it
can't be the same all the time and if
you use the word screened screen by
watch so now is the screening going to
become more of repulsive to use a bad
word there than the actual I mean I just
think you need you need there's what
need time to think about this what if we
had a phrase that says per the design
guidelines
I I don't know I mean I'm speaking in
our design guidelines to give examples
of what screening is like what screening
I'll take it back to our team and see
what their thoughts are let marinate
someone yeah pretty good screened pretty
yeah
[Laughter]
pretty good
that's good
trying to contribute
all right any any more comments or
questions here
uh from the audience please
this is the third reason you're right
I'm sorry I thought
since lewis663 you clear
um
I really love how beautiful our city is
and I think ground-mounted solar panels
panels will
um
be detrimental to that so I'm opposed to
ground-mounted solar panels I would
prefer the city look at maybe a
community solar farm or something
outside the community that could help
the entire city rather than put these
individual
horrific looking solar panels sticking
up on a 10-foot pole above people's
um
uh Lots their their fences and there
will be some lots that don't have fences
and if you're allowing 10 feet this 10
foot thing have you have you seen them
have you seen pictures of these things
they are really ugly and um so I am I'm
standing for the beautification of our
city and hope that maybe the city would
look maybe outside of our city uh for an
area where you could create a solar farm
or a community solar for our community
thank you thank you
and I think you've thought of that a
little bit here oh yeah we've done a
little bit of work on that one uh all
right I think we need to
I think we need to uh move to put this
back on I I'm uh moved to uh re-table
ordinance 14-12
is that the number yeah
can I get a second
second
say goodbye Miss Robinson all in favor
say aye
aye aye Apollo post same sign
all right
um and I think we're into the uh
committee reports now my mistaken
zoning and development Mr Klingler
nothing report
Recreation and Parks Miss sod
yes
um just wanted to remind the group here
of amazing leaders to
um try and make it to one of those Be A
Champion for Bexley Community Schools
future interactive forums
um I sent everybody the link and they're
very powerful it's where you get an
opportunity to have your voice
um collected and your input along with
being with other
um residents as far as where we are
moving forward with Bexley City schools
and our strategic plan
um so please make sure that you attend
that and actually if you could too make
sure that you reach out to other
community
members that you think would you know
diversify it and get them there as well
I think there's four more sessions next
one's like November 17th and I just went
to the first one last week and there
were about 45 people in the room
and it was it was great it was great and
uh I think all of us a lot of us are
sitting here because
we moved here for the Bexley Public
Schools
um so it's an important piece
um for all of us whether our kids are in
those schools or not as uh
City Council Members the schools affect
every inch of our city so I hope you
guys can get there and um make your your
amazing voices heard
November 17th at Montrose Elementary
strategic committee
just want to remind everybody to be
careful while they're driving around
next Monday and watch out for our
trick-or-treaters from 5 30 to 7.
um and also we have our next cic meeting
next Tuesday at six o'clock mark your
calendars that's it
service and environmental
no report
Finance Ms Lampkin
I just wanted to say our next meeting is
Tuesday November 8th also known as
election day early voting is already
open so make sure you get out there and
vote and support candidates that value
men and women thank you
thank you uh safety and health uh Mr
Marcelino briefly uh Board of Health did
meet uh there's discussion about a mass
mandate and they advise that we do not
need a mask man there's just concern
that perhaps there would be a spike in
cases where we look at it again but they
said no Mass made it so you get to look
at each other's faces
report out
public comments from the audience yes
please approach
Constance Lewis 663 you clear again
um you know we're talking about Rhodes
and alleys and how
um
how you maintain them there a couple
years ago two or three years ago there
was some something
I don't resurfacing I guess on Francis
it looked like it was being painted with
black paint
um but I know that's some kind of a new
technique can you tell can you speak to
that what it was and and how it's
performed yeah so actually we were
talking about it tonight Onyx it's it's
is the is the commercial name yeah I I
heard you say that I wasn't sure if
that's right you're talking about the
polymeric
um sealer that is supposed to extend the
life of the street by a year or two
um I know that we've done it on several
streets and that our city Engineers keep
an eye on them and kind of reporting
back what he sees but we're not like
we're at a point where it's a super plus
footage or not so you don't know how
it's performed
I don't but I will look into that for
you okay I haven't I don't think I'm not
sure that we have a conclusion yet but
if we do I'll let you know thank you
any other comments
I will take a motion to adjourn motion
to adjourn that will take a second
second all in favor say aye aye opposed
same sign adjourn good night
okay