oh there's Mike shadik hi Mike hi Mike
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word good evening Bexley it is so nice
to have people um attending um tonight
with us and I want to welcome Council we
had a we had a meeting just prior to
this that we zoomed off off of we were
zooming and we've zoomed off of it um I
want to welcome everyone here this
certainly has been a crazy week um in
our country and um reminds me
of how lucky I am I think I referred uh
to uh my team of council members as my
dream team last night when I wrote to
you and um I mean that I am so lucky um
I remind you every week that we are here
for the good of Beckley and I wish I
could remind that to the United States
all the time and to also remind them
that Unity doesn't need to mean sameness
it means Oneness of purpose we are all
here for the good of Bexley and how
fortunate I feel during this pandemic
and always I keep remember reminding
everyone that the best the best
qualities we can have are patience and
um and gratitude and I am grateful to be
working with such an amazing group of
people so thank you so much and with
that I would love for our city auditor
to uh announce those wonderful group of
people I get to work with Miss Fel here
Mr
Sharp Mr
Sharp he's here here there we go Miss
sad here Miss Robinson here miss Lamy
here Mr
Markham Mr
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back Mr Kingler
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let's all stand for the pledge if we
could please I pledge aliance to the
flag of the United States of America and
to the Republic for which it stands one
nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all
oh my goodness we do have a great
um a great partner um as a uh special
guest tonight um I am so glad you are
with us and it's so nice to see you but
I'm going to turn it over to the mayor
to introduce you Mike all right thank
Mike thank you Mike shatak for being
here this evening Mike is uh Mike I'm
GNA make up your title because I I don't
know exactly what it is but he's the
consig Gary of the city of Columbus he
is the uh he's a cabinet mayor with
mayor Cabinet member with mayor gther uh
interacts with the community at large
and specifically I think the suburbs uh
surrounding Columbus and has been a
great uh friend and and Ally to Bexley
and helping us in uh in our partnership
with the city of Columbus so Council had
asked if I could reach out to someone
from Columbus to come and talk a little
bit about uh the safety concerns that we
all have on Livingston Avenue and I want
to make it very clear that the city of
Columbus has been at the table um has
been reaching out to us has been sharing
with us what they're working on has been
asking for input from us and has been um
very open to ideas and specifically I
think you should all know that we I
think you do know in fact that we've
launched the uh Livingston Avenue uh
study RFP it's gone out to contractors
throughout the region been answering
lots of questions from contractors about
it Columbus is a partner in that um and
and I I asked ask Council ahead of time
to think of questions for you Mike now I
need to be I need to apologize I got so
inundated this afternoon with stuff
leading up to council that guys I I
forgot to forward your questions to Mike
that's on me so Mike you're about to get
asked lots of questions and I'll give
you a heads up before you get asked the
questions they they have to do with
there're may be a little they might be a
little more specific than than uh you
you are currently uh enabled to answer
about maybe some specific changes to
infrastructure or some specific tactics
but certainly you're well versed in in
what the city's been doing to date and
what sort of things we're looking at
studying and so um again apologies for
that uh I did I did make sure that
Council knew that that you are a good
friend of ours and you have been um
incredibly helpful very gracious with
your time and your resources as we have
looked at the Livingston Avenue uh
issues so with that Council any
questions that you have for Mike or Mike
if you want to say anything uh to start
us off to talk about yeah first of all I
appreciate that mayor thank you and
president and Council uh as a recovering
uh City former city council member from
Upper Arlington myself um I know the
incredible amount of time and effort
that you all put in for your city uh so
thank you very much for that and uh it
is it's nice to be here uh as you said
uh mayor um as a a former council member
from Upper Arlington I kind of saw
firsthand um with our relationship with
Columbus you know Columbus is you know
huge huge uh um uh entity and uh 950,000
people now and often um we kind of saw
firsthand I don't want to say it was an
us against them uh uh mentality but
sometimes it felt that way and so when
the mayor first took office he asked if
I would join his team I had just been
reelected to councel myself the same
election and he asked if I would join
the team to kind of try to change that
narrative and change that relationship
so so uh that is my job so my formal
title is uh I think uh director of
intergovernmental Affairs something to
that effect but uh what it really means
is we want to be good partners uh with
our Suburban Partners we are so
interconnected as we all know you know
many of your residents work in Columbus
uh and vice versa you know our residents
you know and sometimes people that move
to the area don't even know where they
live technically uh until they get
accustom to it so we're so
interconnected and uh uh my job is to
find ways when there are issues uh uh
you know how can we work together so uh
as the mayor said we've been talking
about Livingston Avenue quite a bit
lately not only uh potential
Redevelopment efforts and possibilities
but lately too just the safety issue
right uh we know that uh it's been an
incredible issue we see it on the news
and I know your residents are very U
upset our residents are upset that live
in the area so we know there's a problem
so just to kind of give everybody a
brief um update last week uh mayor
Kesler and uh uh Chief
Reinhardt uh and also um who else from
your team mayor uh your safety director
service director Andy Basher service
director yeah met with myself um our um
Public Safety Ned pentis uh we came
actually over to beex we thought it was
important to come over uh uh to your uh
municipal center there uh director
Gallagher uh as well because we wanted
to hear firsthand what was going on uh
from your perspective so I think some
good things came out of that meeting
last week um the first order of business
is next week actually we are in the
process of scheduling a a meeting with
uh again your police chief uh Reinhardt
is going to be meeting with uh
actually there's a couple individuals
Bob Stewart who's our Deputy safety
director and also two members of the
Columbus Police dep department will be
meeting next week to kind of get a um a
game plan of exactly how we want to
proceed the gist of it is we know
enforcement has to be increased when
Livingston Avenue uh and there's no two
ways about it you know Co has made
everybody's life much more difficult
right uh you know we don't have um you
know the full amount of resour resources
we normally have uh we don't you know
working remotely quite a bit uh there's
just been a lot of strain on the system
that being said there's no excuse not to
you know or to lay off enforcement so we
know it's a priority it's a priority for
mayor gther now and our team so we are
working on that and then as the mayor
said from the development aspect um the
RFP I know is out now and we are good
partners on that with you as well so um
I'm happy answer questions now I didn't
know I was going to get questions to be
honest and uh to be very Frank with you
um uh I know just a about enough of you
know many of these issues to be
dangerous my role in this is to place
the proper people together so if you
have specific questions I'll do my best
to answer but if I don't know the the
answer to your question again as a
former council member I just I respect
somebody who tells me if I don't know I
won't I will tell you I don't know but I
will find out I am ansers for you so
with that I will be quiet now and happy
to answer any questions thank you so
much Mike it looks like Monique has her
hand raised first Monique um who by the
way is was uh was excellent at making
sure that we had you here to talk to us
about Livingston in the first place so
manique thank you for your steadfastness
and your representation to the people of
Bexley thank you thank you and so much
thank you to you Mr shatak for for being
here tonight um I do have um just a few
questions uh one of which you already
answered so I won't repeat that one but
um given the recent kind of rash of
accidents um has there been a single
factor or multiple factors that you
would attribute to being the main causes
of those accidents and and by factors I
mean is it speed loss of control sight
view anything that we could pinpoint is
maybe attributing to causing those
accidents yeah it's my understanding
from my multiple conversations with the
mayor individuals from Columbus and
Bexley uh that you know speed seems to
be a big big uh issue um and I I don't
know if this is covid related I mean I
know everybody is much more stressed
lately um you know and I'm not a mental
health expert but it just seems like
sometimes you know people are are acting
uh um you know a little bit more crazy
lately so again I don't know but it
seems to answer your question
specifically I think speed is uh one of
the biggest factors and that's the
reason we think the enforcement's going
to be something you know the increased
enforcement I should say is something we
can do very quickly and to address that
but then the big question is longterm
what do you do about that because you
know resources are limited just for
Columbus as much as Bexley your police
chief you know was very Frank with you
know in our meeting last week that you
know you don't necessarily have the
resources to be able to you know um you
know constantly you know enforce and
Patrol you know this Livingston Avenue
but that being said said increased
enforcement I think is a good first step
great thank you thank you so much um um
my my next question was um I know the
mayor mentioned an RFP but are there uh
certain speed calming measures that you
think could be implemented perhaps
sooner than later more as a short-term
measure um in that area and if so could
you share with us what some of those
things could be yeah that's a good
question I think again our meeting next
week uh you know we're going to start to
flash out more particulars uh as I said
um uh director Gallagher uh uh from the
city of Columbus uh joined us and uh you
know her team is aware of the issue now
as well too so we kind of have a
multifaceted approach to this uh it's
not just the CPD that's on this we're
going to look at this from a multitude
of of angles because again I know it's
important to beex and your residence and
important to our residents as well
safety I mean obviously is number one so
great thank you and then final question
um has been um for the officers from
Columbus that do Patrol that Livingston
area um have you received any feedback
from them or what's been their
observations um regarding that area that
we we could learn of yeah again next
week I know we're going to have um again
Bob Stewart who has been our Deputy
safety director but he's been with CPD
for many many years and he's bringing
his uh uh Commander um I think they call
it his own
Zone Commander um is going to be joining
that meeting so we'll have much more
specific details uh to be honest after
that meeting when we can kind of get the
team together uh again you know I'm not
going to tell you that you know this
Livingston Avenue is the number one
priority in the city of Columbus right
now for obvious reasons you know we have
with a pandemic going on now and uh
what's happened it's been you know 2020
has been a year from hell to be honest
uh uh uh for our city and many others
and uh so we're doing our best but now
uh it's time to that being said mayor um
gther has made it clear that you know we
need to you know make sure our
priorities are uh in tune and safety
Public Safety is always one of the top
priorities so well thank you again for
being here and I share in that priority
I'll I know the rest of my council
members have questions as well yeah
thanks for the invitation to you tonight
looks like Jessica sad has her hand
raised next and then Richard Shar
Jessica yes thanks president pable um
Mike thank you so much you touched upon
it 2020 has been quite a year for
everyone and we appreciate your time
tonight to be here since you are here
I'm gonna ask a few questions that you
may not have answers to I just want to
uh just to bring them up and then um
maybe just ask for followup in the
future as you meet with um the experts
and get some knowledge on some things
that we can do um because as we've all
acknowledged and thank you to Mo'Nique
Lamy for having you here tonight Public
Safety is uh a priority for all of us
and and Livingston Avenue is an area
Bexley that we just need to do better uh
for our residents so I'm just going to
go through four um areas of possible um
topics to bring up to Livingston and
again Mike you may not be able to answer
tonight but um maybe look for followup
in the future um just asking is would it
be beneficial to Livingston and to the
if we added an additional traffic light
Stop East to Livingston and college just
a
question uh next question I'm taking
notes as you speak by the way so thanks
Mike
thanks the next question is just speed
bumps added to 43209 area of Livingston
with that help as you said slowing down
traffic there um automated speed cameras
installed could that be a
possibility and then the install uh
Raider speed displays those are just
four things
um I just wanted to see I'm not the
expert in um in this area and I'm just
looking to see uh from the experts if
they think that would help sure I'll be
happy to look into this and uh again
putting on my uh former city council uh
hat I know back when I was on Council uh
a few years back now um you know on Lane
Avenue when we were in the process of
beginning the Redevelopment you know we
had four lanes at the time and made the
decision to go to three lanes and it's
kind of counterintuitive right that oh
three traffic's going to be more it's
actually more efficient to have three
lines and four for a variety of reasons
but the point is and what I learned um
you know traffic is a science it really
is uh there's people that do nothing but
traffic design so these are certainly
good questions I don't know the answer
this is not my specialty but um we'll
look at all possibilities everything's
on the table for us too thank you
sure and I want to make it really clear
to uh Council um again I think I tried
set this up with talking about Mike's
role and bringing these departments
together um you know certainly questions
we can bring back every question that's
been raised today has been discussed
already with Columbus and put in the
hopper not every I'm sorry not every
question some of some of the specific
questions I have to Adit we haven't not
talked about speed bumps I don't think
but in terms of a road diet signage
speed cameras new lights specific
intersections those are the sorts of
things that we're um we're talking with
Columbus
about okay I think we have another hand
for Mike Richard uh sharp Richard thank
you Mike and again I'll repeat everyone
else for thank you thanking you for
attending um and I just wanted to verify
with the mayor that um is this going to
be jointly um looked into with the
overlay District this the Livingston
Avenue overlay planning district for
Columbus and um maybe should there be an
extension of it all the way to G as far
as um some of the the things in the
design that can assist with um the the
speed
and when you say the overlay District uh
Richard could you clarify please what
you mean by
that um last year um we were interacting
with the um city of Columbus their
Development Department I think as far as
Livingston Avenue um Street scaping
and
um you know some guidelines um gu Street
guidelines so those the that is I think
you're referring to the the plan that
we're working on uh that we've solicited
an RFP for uh the the geographical
boundaries of that plan would stretch
from Alum Creek Drive itself the so the
driving Park neighborhood there at Alam
Creek is Livingston East to uh Gould uh
to to the actually I think Kenwick is I
think what we're saying there but uh yes
it is not just the commercial area it
also includes those residential areas
that are um you know have Berwick and
Beckley houses fronting onto them and
safety and safety improvements and a
traffic study all part of that plan
proposed and I will I will tell you that
um many of the questions that have been
asked tonight are questions that really
require very deep Dives before issuing
answers to
them well and and the answer council
member sharp um to to be honest you know
I kind of visualize this as two separate
you know uh not projects if you will but
I guess they are projects uh but you
know you have the streetscape and you
know the RFP that's out now um and then
in the meantime since we've been working
on this for the past year really um and
then Co happened um but and then in the
meantime now it's my understanding and
my I get the sense that the safety issue
now is even you know kind of risen to
even much more uh prominence now but
they're not mutually exclusive right
this you know ultimate streetscape that
might take years uh you know uh to you
know come to fruition and you know be
completed ultimately um we're you know
the safety component is something we
want to work on right away so that's why
hence the meeting last week and now uh
again next week to see what immediately
we can do for the safety component and
the speeding and and that was part of my
point I I'm not very articulate about
making them um is that some some of the
more Capital intensive uh solutions
would be involved with the other plan
potentially um rather than in in what
we're working on for Immediate Solutions
so um and then the follow-up question if
I May um how does the city of Columbus's
new announced policy on
misdemeanors have an impact on how will
that have an impact on the enforcement
process for traffic
issues excellent question I will bring
that up at our meeting next week that's
a very good
question and I don't have an answer for
you thank you very much I didn't really
expect an answer since it's such a new
policy yeah
thank you um I think we have one more
hand uh raised it's Troy markhams um and
please let the record show that Troy has
uh joined us so um Debbie I'm asking you
to make sure that um he has been
acknowledged as as being here Mr markam
Troy I'm sorry you know I had to travel
from that other meeting to get here and
so I know I get
it yeah uh Mr shadik I I want to make
sure that you are properly thanked by
the city council for being here t
uh we really do appreciate uh your
attendance here and and your uh the
city's attention to this I I live just a
few blocks from uh Livingston Avenue and
so that's been something that I've heard
about uh you know ever since I joined
city council I I do want to say um that
it feels like lately that the the
problem has been exacerbated I think
maybe you had mentioned that we now have
some of my neighbors who are having
their houses being crashed into by cars
which seems extraordinary extraordinary
uh something that you would have to
worry about I do want to also commend
the city um I have noticed the uh the
speed radar signs out there uh recently
and I think that uh that goes a long way
that stretch of road I think it goes a
long way for motorists to know that uh
attention is being paid that something
is is is being uh done that there that
that situation is being looked at and I
do have full faith that uh your
engineers and your expertise probably
have some uh solutions for that I will
say I'll throw this in just because I
have a microphone right now and I do
drive on Livingston uh every day uh that
one I think one of the major problems
with Livingston is the lack of a a turn
lane in the middle uh you do see a lot
of really highspeed Beering in and out
of lanes but as I say I'm sure your uh
your engineers uh probably have noted
that already but again thank you very
much for uh for addressing this with us
and and being a great partner for us to
to try and Tackle
this all right um mik thank you so much
for joining us we are so grateful um I
do see that someone um in attendance has
their hand raised we do not accept um
questions and comments at this section
of our as per our our Council rules we
do however in just a few minutes during
public comment will allow you to make
comments on things that are not on the
agenda and you can share your your your
comments um during that time period
because we do do want to hear what you
have to say so Madam president if if I
might I have to think my wife to dinner
now so I've got to go but um that being
said um if I'm happy to answer any
questions from your residents they can
if they want to send those to you or to
the mayor and he can forward to me and
uh I'll be happening answer there a as I
said again a former council member we we
must be responsive to our constituents
uh uh so happy to answer any questions
if they want to email me or call me
directly I give you my cell phone number
it's
614
554-5607 again 61455
45607 that's my personal cell you can
call me bless your heart that is so kind
of you to share that with us and um I
will if they do email me I will indeed
um pass it along your way so bless your
heart for being with us in Bexley
tonight even if it's virtual um and have
a great dinner hey Mike we really
appreciate the partnership and uh you
you have been on top of this issue I
want to say it again you've been
proactive you have been reaching out and
I want to thank you for that so thank
you again for coming out thank you all
and kudos to you your councel and your
your staff and mayor uh I can't say
enough I I literally spend all my time
every day uh with our Suburban partners
and Bexley and I don't say this to
everybody you guys really are um uh the
cream of the cream or CR CR Del crem I
don't know what you're saying is but we
like to think we're we like to think
we're the cool kids thank you for thank
you for making us feel like we are thank
you thank you so much thank you thank
you take good care
bye all right now we are to item five
which is public comments and if indeed
you have a com you have a a comment if
you'd please raise your hand with the
little icon we would love love love to
hear from you we would ask um two things
one that you please give us your name
and your address and two that you try to
keep it under five minutes because we
have a really full agenda and we have
lots of other individuals who we hoping
want to share some thoughts with us as
well all right looks like we have
someone by the name of De your talking
is permitted you're
on thank you my name is David idleberg I
actually live in Berwick but I was
hoping to speak with Mike because we
have another group that's concentrated
on this Livingston Avenue speeding issue
and the accident issue made up of
Columbus City Council Members Vision
zero which is the organization that's
looking at the road diet issues and has
already planned and has put
into um practice changes that are going
to happen at Livingston and James we
also have police officers head head of
two divisions involved
already uh my concern and I'll I'll
contact Mike and discuss it with him is
that there
are potentially more than one group
working on this at the same
time and I want to make sure that we're
all coordinated and I believe the
mayor's aware of this at this
point but um
I that's just the way it looks from from
what I saw on this meeting that there
there there two at least two
uncoordinated groups working on this
David I do think that um the mayor could
speak to this we're so happy that you
joined us tonight please know that and
I'm GNA let um the mayor speak to that
yeah thank you Mr idleberg um so we are
well aware of the group that you're
referring to and we've been in constant
contact with them um I I believe Diane
strausser has been one of your key conts
and keeping us up to speed we're aware
of the two U officials with the police
department at Columbus that I think
they're part of a meeting next week um
so this is the the left- hand is talking
to the right hand on this and I think
the thing for you all to look out for
and we will be announcing this in the
next month after the consultant has been
selected for the planning effort uh is
uh getting involved in and being a
stakeholder group at the table as we go
through the planning effort so that is
anticipated in the planning that we
talked about well aware of the
organization and the great advocacy that
you guys have been uh involved in so
thank you all right thank you thank you
is there any other individuals um that
are in attendance tonight with us that
would like to
speak I don't see any other hand so we
are going to move on to the president's
report if I may um I have two really
quick things that I wanted to um say I
wanted to thank Miss Lamy so much for um
putting together this new agenda
remember we're trying it on we're going
to see how it works for us and I would
love the council um think about it and
um look it over as we're going through I
um I want everyone to um take notes as
we go what works what doesn't work we
can either quickly discuss that maybe
under Monique's old business during her
report or we could um or you guys could
mail us and we can try to see what we
can do to make things um a little
different so
um with that I also want to say that I
had an amazing conversation with John
offenberg um this afternoon his his team
is working so well together he suggested
and I'm sure that comes to a no surprise
to all of us um they're having a few
setbacks um they have some things they
want to to tweak um so they are doing
their due diligence and doing this right
and taking their time they also have
sadly one of their members um and uh
wife tested positive for covid so um we
are uh he and I are um discussing how
best Council and um Charter review are
going to meet together to discuss this
and um I I'm certainly going to be
reaching out to our um to our smart uh
City attorney
uh for some guidance on that one as well
so we'll see we'll see how so we'll see
how that all shakes out and I'll be
sharing with you that uh in the future
um I think I that's all I have for now
and so we can uh move on to that smart
city attorney's report if he's got
one we're g to talk about the schedule
during a first reading actually tonight
but thank you the city auditor and I had
discussed putting our um
calendar um for next year under the
president's report but I I later decided
that maybe that should just be a first
reading and we'll talk about that then
so Mr attorney yes so uh just an update
um the Ohio Supreme Court has issued its
decision in the case involving the State
of Ohio's um uh efforts to centralize
Municipal tax collections um as you may
recall city of bexy along with many
other cities in Ohio challenged that
based on home rule
um the Supreme Court uh ruled that the a
that the state does have the authority
to centralize the tax collections but
they ruled that the state overstepped
its bounds um or its Authority by um
imposing a
05% um fee on the cities where uh
taxpayers are have elected this option
so it's getting remanded to the lower
courts um but ultimately it's going to
be back up in the legislature because
now the question becomes whether or not
the state of Ohio wants to continue to
do this if they can't take a half% um as
a fee so I will keep you posted it's
sort of pretty good news it's it's as
good as it was going to get on that
case all right thank you so much Mr
official we appreciate it um oh we do
have a hand Mr um Harvey question uh
anything any update on the how long we
can do these Zoom meetings oh yeah good
point so um and actually I think there's
a resolution here to ask the answer as
of right now is December 1st as of
December 1st um the authority to do Zoom
meetings goes away for everyone across
the state of Ohio because House Bill
three whatever it was um that was passed
back in March said until December 1st
because we thought we'd be done there is
a pending Bill pending in the state
legislature to extend this authority to
30 days after the governor ends the
declar says there's no longer a pandemic
or I can't remember the exact language
so I expect we'll be able to keep doing
it right well that will be a resolution
that we have under our first readings um
council members and we will need to
suspend and adopt that to make uh it
makes sense for us so um is that all Mr
attorney covers it alrighty so can we
move on to the consent agenda
please on the consent agenda we have the
council minutes of
102720 special Council minutes of 10
a20 ordinance 46-20 to revise the
codified ordinances by adopting current
replacement pages and declaring an
emergency that was introduced by Miss
Lamy and resolution 1020 to authorize
the mayor to seek financial assistance
from the Ohio Public Works commission
for funding of various Capital
infrastructure Improvement projects that
was introduced by Mr
Markham all right councel are there any
questions that you have concerning the
uh consent agenda
I don't see any hands anyone in
attendance that would like to um comment
or has a question about the consent
agenda I see no hands do I have a motion
Council I'll make a motion that we
approv the consent agenda thank you Mr
Kingler is there a second
second I think that was Miss lamkey but
I'm not 100%
sure it was Jen Robinson oh see I wasn't
100 sure all right thanks Jen um Mr um
auditor Miss Lamy yes Mr Markham yes Mr
Kingler yes Miss F yes Miss sad yes Miss
Robinson yes Mr
Sharp yes passes okay it passes thank
you so much everyone administrative
updates so we're going to have some
serious updating with the financial
department but um Mr city um auditor do
you have anything you'd like to add
other than what we're going to talk
about in the budget no nothing else I
didn't think so thank you um then we are
on to Chief Reinhardt are you there sir
yes ma'am I am do you have anything for
us oh my gosh uh detective holdren was
really busy according to our um your um
your report do you have anything other
than your report to add sir no I don't
uh but uh detective Sergeant hodin does
a great job for us and he stays busy
thank you I'll pass that on to him that
you noticed please do he knows that I
think he's amazing and uh I think all of
your department is so please tell them
as always thank you and be safe any
questions for um for the
chief chief I just wanted to let you
know that obviously Sergeant overly is
going to be um meeting with my block
soon to form our first ever block watch
I would encourage anyone listening to
also consider uh forming a block watch
and working with the officers to put
that in place so thank you to her and to
you yeah that made that made the report
um Miss lampy is an overachiever she's
trying to use her heater in the
backyard all right um all right so
moving on to the recreation
department Mr Michael price you there
sir I am I am thank you and nothing
other than my written report all right
we're going to hear a lot from you later
on yes will be fun okay any questions
for
Michael all right we are going to move
on to Andy bashore you there oh my gosh
there's leaves are so high those guys
have such work to
do they have been extremely busy I know
it they're
amazing um but I I do not have anything
else to add to my written report Madam
president all right it looks like
Jessica saw I have a question for you um
Mr bashore Jessica well I wanted to say
to Andy you're doing an awesome job the
city in getting the leaves picked up I
have seen everybody working so hard and
a lot of neighbors extremely
appreciative so um please pass along
that
information and Mike I just had a quick
question from you from your written
report I wanted to just ask the wck
department to please highly consider
keeping the pancake breakfast on for the
community
um I would love to see us use um you
know our new online um registration
process to allow families to register
for what we could consider a pancake PJ
parade um the idea would be to take that
pancake breakfast um we usually have a
tent in our grill outside of Jeffrey
Mansion maybe move that to the circle
and allow families to drive through the
circle depending on construction at the
Mansion um where um we could have you
know if um volunteers from the city
volunteers um to bring the pancakes to
the cars but I think it would be a
really fun event for the younger
families to look forward to where they
get up and they're in their pancakes and
they get in the car and a lot of these
parades are still happening in the
community it is a great way to social
distance and just kind of bring some joy
and something to look forward to during
the holiday season um so just a pancake
PJ par
um to
consider no I appreciate it i' would be
happy to talk with you about some of our
thoughts on the pancake breakfast and
and get some of your thoughts on maybe
how we could do it obviously safety is
is one of the biggest concerns about how
we structure that dealing with food
dealing with uh social distancing
dealing with a number of those things
but I'd be happy to talk with you
offline more about that thanks Mike
thanks for all
the thanks Michael price um any
questions um for Mr
bashore all right Mr Bashar how long
have you been doing this gig now it's
been almost a
year it was a year in
August has it been that long wow you
missed the anniversary party we I did I
didn't make the cut all right well maybe
next year all right any questions for Mr
bashore all right thanks so much
Andy uh we are to the mayor sir you're
on all right all right thank you and I
know we have a packed agenda so I'll try
to move through this quickly here
tonight um and you guys know that that's
like never happen so I'll still try uh
coming up we have uh so standard city
meetings not a whole lot happening at
the community level as we all kind of
start to hunker down getting ready for
Thanksgiving which of course is the week
of uh November 23rd um I do want to draw
attention to those of you who hadn't
seen this we put this in the blast but
we have changed the way that we're
presenting our statistics for covid-19
um we're going to a weekly reporting of
incidents rates and new cases we just
found that the active household count
was not reliable it was a a different
piece of information given to us by
Franklin County Emergency Management and
it was clearly lagging uh the new case
data that we were getting from Franklin
County Public Health so we're trying to
make this a little bit more consumable
by people so they can understand a
little bit better what's going on um one
thing I will draw your attention to
what's not on this chart is that
yesterday we received 12 new cases of
covid-19 through our Epi report we
didn't have any reported today some of
those they can kind of get lumped
together um but we certainly have and we
are experiencing uh what Franklin County
is experiencing beex is not immune to
these climbs we believe that a lot of
the in incidents increases that we're
seeing have to do with in parties inside
uh people getting together for maybe for
football games as it's getting colder uh
going indoors so just a reminder
easy to start to get comfortable around
people that we know really well but you
know masking up and um and keeping that
distance um specifically in in um social
settings Outdoors is important um and
and guidance continues to be against um
in indoor uh activities with people from
outside of your household so we'll keep
on talking about that um um and as we
all know like uh keeping keeping that
spread contained is vital and essential
to allowing our kids to be at school
even in the hybrid model um and to allow
some of the loosening restrictions that
we've all enjoyed and experienced so um
it's a it's a reminder for us all um I I
have a a typo right actually have typo
right here for you uh 424 South Columbus
is not supposed to be that supposed to
be Columbia I put some headlines in here
because I um we we as you know have had
a busy day but um South Columbia is a
zoning um uh a home it's a new build
it's been before the ARB it's gone back
to the ARB because there were changes to
the property that were made without the
approval of the ARB or the city um ARB
uh declined those changes it's going to
Bap I just wanted you all to be aware of
that I know you've received emails from
property owners and from residents I
know you've received updates uh from us
those of you have reached out um that is
as any zoning issue that is something
that could potentially come before
Council as an appeal so I just want to
give you a heads up to be cautious uh
that uh that that is is one of one such
case um Kathy and Karen have been
working on this property for many many
many months um you know Mark fishell is
aware of it our zoning council is aware
of it and uh there's a whole lot of
information so if any council member
wants to know more about that um and is
hearing those getting those questions
feel free to reach out to any of us Ben
if I can interject really quickly
because um someone did reach out to all
of councel just prior to this to this
meeting because they were concerned that
that would be on our agenda and I did um
I did respond to her right away that it
is not on our part of our purview as of
yet um but she did um ask about the
meanings for beap in the future because
she believes that this will be on their
agenda again and um the dates that um
beap are showing um in the future future
are indeed
Thanksgiving and I think uh maybe the
day after Christmas or some such thing
do you know the dates for the next be at
meeting so I do not have those in front
of me but I will get those to anyone who
has question about we'll make sure
thats's
correct mayor your mic is off sorry
about that I don't have the beap date uh
I will let you know what that is I'll
get that from uh our zoning director and
as you guys know she has just turned
back to the office after being out with
uh covid-19 so um that certainly has uh
slowed down a little bit of the schedu
in here thank you mayor sorry no worries
um okay quickly listening sessions we we
got uh we have wrapped up our first
listening session our community police
listening session uh it see it's um I
hear that it went very well we're having
some kind of um after action meetings to
see how we can improve the program and
keep building on it we do have residents
waiting to participate so um I want to
thank the facilitators uh Diane and
LeSean uh who have really done a great
job uh putting that program together um
we have uh we have created a procurement
committee here in the city internally um
to review uh contracts as they come up
uh with the goal to uh increase the
diversity uh and inclusion of minority
uh owned contractors um Edge contractors
uh and I want to thank Nationwide
Nationwide Insurance who has an entire
procurement department has reached out
to us many of the residents many of them
are residents of Bexley and they have
they're donating their time and their
expertise to help us through the process
uh in creating a plan um for this I know
it's something that many of you guys
have advocated for in the past something
we were working on and have been working
in the past um their process has been
really clear and very helpful and
they've helped connect us to uh a a
procurement program at OSU and we're
going to be getting an intern in to
assist us with that so that uh is
something that's moving forward and
moving forward well so I wanted you be
aware of that um fop contract update we
have started the process of discussions
of the fop contract as you guys know um
as I said I would we have our fop
contract on our website it's on the
public documents folder under financial
information folder under the collective
bargaining agreements folder um so if
you just search fop contract that should
come up it's the 2018 fop contract which
is the current one uh that we're
negotiating off of for the next version
uh Bey bike plan um is moving forward
this is a photo of our uh one of our
last Community rides until the winter
sets in and literally that was the day
uh that Katherine chose where it did
snow so we received our first snow of
the year while we're out on our bikes
basically about three minutes after that
photo was taken it was pretty cold but
it was uh very helpful and Katherine's
been doing a great job and that
concludes my report for now all right
anybody have any questions for the mayor
I see that someone does I'm looking to
see see who it is it
is sorry Troy marham Mr
Markham I don't have a question I just
want to make a comment that doesn't fit
neatly into the order of the uh
administrative update but I think it
belongs in the beginning of the meeting
uh which is a huge thank you to the poll
workers who worked here in Bexley last
week because uh they did just an amazing
job and and talk about really uh serving
your community uh those po workers came
out and I went and voted on Election Day
here and and everything was so well run
and those those people really I think
deserve a special shout out and so I
just want to to say thank you to them I
think we had some really young people
that were doing it too I believe that um
um Monique lamy's daughter um helped out
with that cause thank you for giving
them a a big Applause um Madam yes oh
Richard sh Richard Sharp has a question
sir
Richard um I was going to wait until um
my liaison reports but um I figured
while the mayor was talking about some
things uh the Historical Society um was
scheduled for a virtual unveiling of the
camp Bushnell CL tomorrow and I don't
see anything on the city council I mean
on the City calendar um I know it was
mentioned in the blast for 11:00 a.m.
tomorrow I did I didn't know how that
virtual unveiling was going to be
handled is there a zoom link somewhere
or it's a Richard it's a Facebook live
event and we'll make sure to to link to
that on our calendar here I'll get a
link make sure getar I I don't think our
audience could hear you because I
couldn't hear you I'm sorry I turned my
mic off to speak it's a Facebook live
event and we will make sure that that's
on our calendar as well so that people
can get right over to
that okay and then um the the second
thing well since Troy brought it up I
enjoyed being a pole worker for the
first time at St Stevens Community House
in our near Northeast Columbus
neighborhood on on 17th Avenue and it's
a pleasure to see the
325 um voters at that those Precinct
locations way to go Richard I love
it all right any other questions for the
mayor
all right we've got uh whole bunch of
tabled ordinances what sorry you almost
got away from me guys I almost did were
three things I forgot to tell you about
one come on this is good news go on I'll
give you the bad news and the good news
there's no bad news okay first off uh
the one of the things I did not update
you on is i' we've been doing a lot of
meeting with the cic and different
committees and working through um some
pretty exciting developments I think
that might be coming up uh in one of
your guys' subcommittee reports uh
Charter review I spoke with the Char
Review Committee yesterday you've seen
your emails but um and Mark already
talked about that so I'm sorry that's
redundant Amy Acton uh I on behalf of
the Central Ohio Mayors and Managers
Association I nominated Amy Acton for
the American Medical Association award
for outstanding government service I
wanted you to be aware of that um again
that was actually comm's uh technical
nomination and I wrote wrote that up and
sent that in so hopefully she receives
that recognition I just wanted you guys
to be aware of that and I am done for
sure now thank you very exciting you're
right it was good news um we've got some
tabled ordinances and we got some fun
guests that are going to be presenting
and then we've got a lot of them are
pediatricians I'm noticing my personal
favorite pediatrician Bruce Meyer is on
the phone I just wna or is on zoom and I
just want to give him a shout out I
don't think he's scheduled to speak but
I wanted to say hello Dr Meyer and um
with that I am going to ask um Jen
Robinson if she's got any action on
ordinance
3420 why yes madame president I do have
action on ordinance 3420 and I would
like to at this point make a motion to
remove said ordinance from the table
okay there's a motion is there a second
second okay all those in favor please
signify by saying I I hi hi opposed same
sign please Miss Robinson take it away
so um I want to just double check that
we have the um updated ordinance um in
the time that it's been since last we
looked at this um I noticed some
grammatical errors and did U make some
changes to the ordinance so um mayor I
believe I sent uh one copy to you the
the Google Doc version and then one to
um Debbie as well um want to make sure
that we're all looking at that uh that
ordinance can we pull it up and see
which one we've
got okay pulling it up oops that
downloaded hold on one second yeah I did
that with me too it downloaded and then
I had open oh did it mine did that as
well one moment mine is there
nonetheless is yours well that's weird
Grant file access hold on one second I
think I think there was an attempt to
convert that from um
Google doc so let me if you bear with me
I'm going to stop sharing my screen just
for a hot second and I will pull up the
Google Docs version of that can I
introduce our guests while you are doing
that mayor Kesler we would love for you
to do that yes well um since last we
spoke I've reached out to some um
members of the community who have
expertise in medicine and in this issue
in particular and um I invited them to
come speak to this evening so with us
tonight is Dr elely Berlin who is a
Harmony friend from many many years ago
so we have connections outside of of
this issue she is a pediatric medicine
specialist at Nationwide Children's
Hospital also with us tonight is Dr
James McDonald who is a sports medicine
specialist also at Nationwide Children's
Hospital and uh my neighbor Danny Hurley
who um is with us tonight is the vice
president for Capital the capital
Consulting group and I have asked them
and I know Elise I believe is prepared
to uh to speak um and has put together
kind of a just a general overview to
bring everybody back up to speed on what
we were discussing and um why it is
important and the medical community
thinks it's important that we uh we
address this issue so that is the
correct um ordinance mayor
yep so do we need to move to
amend those Corrections before we
discuss it or can we just do that all at
the end we can certainly do that all at
the end if you'd like to go ahead and
allow your um I don't know if you have
anything you want to present or if you
want to go ahead and and and turn it
over to your experts um it's your call
go right ahead go ahead and turn it over
to the experts and um then we can have
Council discussion after well we are
thrilled they are here so go ahead and
introduce who you want to
speak at least you're
up all right hi everybody my name is
thank you so much and I actually have my
son Charlie as a hi Charlie being here
too um mayor Kesler president FAL and
council members thank you so much for
the privilege to speak to all of you I
am mise Berlin and this is my friend Jim
McDonald we both live in Bexley and are
parents to children and now adolescents
U for me in the Bexley City schools and
I'm a pediatrician and Adolescent
Medicine specialist at Nationwide
Children's Jim is a family medicine
physician and a pediatric Sports
Medicine specialist in addition to our
work being focused on young people Jim
is the team physician for the Bexley
lions and I've been a den leader for Cub
Scout P
166 uh both of these are positions we
held for for many years um we're active
community members and we provide medical
care for Children and Youth in this
community and we really care deeply
about the well-being of bexley's young
people and we can attest that vaping is
a big issue in our community and we're
here to tell you why we support
ordinance
3420 so just a reminder for everybody
about what are we talking about I we
will tend to use the words vaping and
ecigarettes or Vapes interchangeably but
ecigarettes heat nicotine which is
extracted from tobacco and um flavorings
and other chemicals to create an aerosol
that um a person inhales nicotine is the
primary psychoactive ingredient in
tobacco but ecigarettes are a different
delivery mode for this
ingredient nicotine stimulates the
central nervous system and is physically
addictive the use of nicotine causes a
sense of well-being stimulates memory
and alertness and is reinforced by
social cues and habits the Adolescent
brain is actually uniquely susceptible
to nicotine addiction and nicotine
exposure during adolescence has
long-standing effects in the brain
including cell damage which both leads
which leads to both immediate and
persistent Behavior change so what we've
seen in terms of epidemiology is that
for many years youth tobacco use had
declined um significantly but now um the
increase in youth tobacco that we are
seeing uh which has reached epidemic
proportions according to the Surgeon
General is really caused by youth
ecigarette use um the most recent data
that we have a full year of data with
from from the centers of dis Disease
Control found that more than a quarter
of high school students and 10% of
middle middle school students in the US
had reported using ecigarettes in the
last month um and what we've seen most
recently is that the use of flavored
ecigarettes
um has really been uh increasing and
that percentage Point increased 13
points just from 2019 till now um and as
the rates of vaping increase we're also
seeing that the frequency of vaping use
is also increasing um so it's not that
they're experimenting um more with them
but they're actually using them more
frequently um we know that the use of
vaping products is very prevalent among
um youth IND dexley of which there's
another one right behind me I apologize
for that and I suspect that you also are
familiar with the vaping problem in
dexley the most commonly used platform
um has been Jewel and Jewel is a
cartridge based system and one little
cartridge of Jewel has the nicotine
equivalent of a pack of cigarettes jewel
is easy to hide and these cartridge
based systems are um difficult to detect
and prior to January 2020 they were
available in sweet flavors um there was
a study in 2018 by the truth initiative
that found that the majority of
adolescent Jewel users did not know that
Jewel always contains Meine they thought
um in many instances that it was just
the flavor so how harmful are vaping
products so according to the FDA toxic
carcinogenic and substances known to
cause respiratory and heart distress
have been identified in The Vaping
aerosols cartridges refill liquids and
emissions and you may recall the
syndrome called evali which was vaping
lung disease was first documented in
2019 and so far has affected more than
1,000
persons in particular about young people
using vaping products those adolescents
who Vape are at higher risk to progress
to marijuana use to binge drink alcohol
and use other at drugs and adolescents
who Vape are eight times more likely to
start smoking cigarettes compared to
adolescence who
have adolescent smokers are able to quit
a year and it's believed that quitting
vaping is even harder than quitting um
cigarette use in terms of what's special
about covid one study um that we looked
at found that covid diagnosis was five
times more likely among young people who
were using ecigarettes compared to young
people who were not um I am not a policy
expert so I'm not going to review and
update the policy um entirely but um as
you may know tobacco sales are now
prohibited Across the Nation um to young
people uh 20 and younger so that is
definitely a step forward um but some
people have said to me well why do we
need this I thought we already had a ban
on flavored vaping products well what
we've had is an
FDA uh regulation of cartridge-based
um uh nicotine um vaping products um
which has also banned the addition of uh
sweet flavors but it allows Menthol um
which we've actually seen a very strong
increase in Menthol flavored um
ecigarette use since that um regulation
went into P into play what we have seen
though is a de it looks like a decline
in youth vaping since
2019 that experts really believe is
because of policy and local reg
regulation so we've seen five states
that have actually banned or strictly
limited the sale of flavored ecigarettes
that includes Massachusetts New Jersey
Rhode Island New York and California um
municipalities including the city of
Chicago bans the sale of all flavored
ecigarettes and Philadelphia does not
permit miners to be admitted to stores
selling any ecigarettes in October of
2019 our governor called on the Ohio
General Assembly to pass a Statewide ban
on non-t Tobacco flavored vaping
products and in February the US House of
Representatives passed a very
comprehensive tobacco um legislation
that is still um uh in that uh house so
youth V in remains High um which has
been driven in part by a dramatic
increase in the use and sale of Menthol
ecigarettes and disposable ecigarettes
which were actually Exempted from the
fda's policy on flavored ecigarettes
this year as well as unregulated
flavored products such as flavored
ecigarettes e-liquids open systems um
and then the Menthol that I've talked
about so um I just speak really as a
health care provider um as a a
professional who cares for young people
in our community and as a mom um and I I
know that Jim feels the same um in terms
of his position and we really strongly
support councilwoman um Robinson's
ordinance
3420 um youth vaping is an epidemic and
we believe that um passing this
ordinance will be a clear message to our
community that we're taking a stand
against epidemic of adolescent vaping
and will not tolerate the sales of these
products which are especially harmful to
young people in our community and we are
happy to take question questions and
we'll answer them to the best of our
ability thank you so much for sharing
all of that um I really appreciate it I
I know that um John Robinson has done a
a a
real a lot of work and has reached out
to a lot of Physicians and I really
appreciate you um stepping up to share
your thoughts with us um Jen you want to
take it from here absolutely um and I
Echo what um president fibo said I so
appreciate your assist with this um do
does anyone on Council have any
questions for doctors McDonald or
Berlin is anybody council members
any did I see Monique have hand up I do
see a hand um and I can't tell who it is
I
apologize it's Monique okay Miss lampy
please thank you I just had a quick
question for for the experts um way that
the ordinance is written um it it it's
fairly General and then examples of
types of devices but um I hear that dab
pens and puff bars are also um used
would this kind of ordinance Encompass
that or do we need something
expanded
well my and I might defer to Jen um but
my understanding is that dabbing is
specifically marijuana and
um I think this ordinance would probably
not address a marijuana product um this
ordinance would be specifically for
those um flavored Vape products the the
e-liquids and ecigarettes the nicotine
ones thank you I guess I I may have been
mistaken I thought you could use a
nicotine product with the de pen but I I
will trust your judgment thank
you sad has a question Jessica
um yes I just wanted to thank um Elise
and James and Danny for being on here
and the statistics that you just threw
out were really um wonderful to share
that I've done my own research and Jen
has brought a lot but hearing that from
a medical professional um goes a long
way and I really appreciate your time
and um being on here tonight to share
your expertise with us um so thank you
for being
here thanks Jess Mr Sharp Richard
yeah I'd like to thank Elise and James
again for um doctors I should say um for
attending tonight uh I had a question
will kids migrate to nicotine gum is is
that something that might come out that
becomes flavored um that's already a
product out there that that
manufacturers might try to skirt and
promote
you know I I don't think so um I think
your your inclination that well what
else they GNA try is H not unfounded um
in my experience as a physician it is
quite difficult to get adolescence to
use nicotine um replacement gum um
because of kind of the particularities
of how you have to use it and put it in
your mouth so I'm not particularly
concerned about um the gum and I think
the other angle around the the um The
Vaping products is the way it's the
particular nicotine salt is very quickly
accessible into the bloodstream and into
the central nervous system and I think
it's designed quite differently than the
gum the gum which I think is designed to
release very slowly um so I and that
that quick hit is what um really um is
most one of the most addictive
properties of
vaping and this Danny I just add two
things on that one is just you know the
companies that typically make the gum
and the other cation products those are
not tobacco companies it's you know
pharmaceutical companies like Laos Smith
Klein or consumer healthare companies so
companies that aren't really you know
they they just they Market their product
very differently and the other thing is
those products do go through a pretty
lengthy review process by the FDA to to
Dr Berlin's point they're really
designed to be a true sensation tool not
something that is uh is a replacement
that can kind of give you the similar
fix
so and thank you the other the other
question is
um is has there been
any um court cases against the Banning
of of the product such as this
to um individuals that are older than
the age of maturity and um since the
products are somewhat ubiquitous around
Bexley and through the internet but with
limited distri distribution within
Bexley itself um would this ordinance be
more more effective or should we be
directing our efforts through a
resolution directly to the Ohio
legislature um to encourage a Statewide
ban can I speak to that I think this is
that we do
um on our own as a city and then work uh
with the state of Ohio and and uh I
don't see this as two separate things I
see this as something that we enact in
our city because this is an issue that
we really do from a health perspective
really do need to start addressing and
um you know there as as Governor dwine
has has mentioned um how difficult it is
to get those wheels turning in the
general assembly uh there I believe are
two current bills um being floated and
discussed right now to to address this
but in terms of the longevity or how
long that will take to actually enact um
I think um adds an additional concern
this is something that we could do here
and much more quickly than than the
wheels would turn um at the state level
so I see this as a we do it and if the
state does it great we're we're we're
ahead of the curve a yes and a yes and
and it's a yes and and and related to
the liability as far as potential
lawsuits as far as Bexley um maybe being
the first in the area with Banning an
over U product directed
to um over adult or over 21 because it
would affect everybody age 21 and over
as well as because we currently already
have it banned for the sale of under
21 right right um now of course
anecdotal evidence would show that the
kids are getting their hands on these
you know some way so the question is
who's actually making these purchases
but I want to point out that one of the
Amendments that we made at your
suggestion Richard was to um leave the
tobacco flavored products um on the
market so we are this is strictly a
menthol and flavored um you know product
ban so for those who are actually using
this product for as a cation device
those adults of consenting age those
products will still be available to them
now of course the jury depending on
which study you read the jury is out on
whether that's actually a a successful
mode of cation but um you know keeping
in mind the input that we got from from
residents and from other council members
that was some that was a concession um
that I think we were willing to
make thank
you thank you Richard looks like Jessica
sad has her hand up um
Jessica yes thanks president Fel just to
kind of um all-encompassing here Jen I
wanted to go back to a question I've
asked at other U meetings just to
reiterate it as we're bringing this off
the table in Bexley we have I believe
three locations yes products so um as um
Dr Berlin stated that this is an
opportunity to present a clear message
of ad for Bexley to have the opportunity
to put out a clear message of adolescent
vaping with this ordinance I think it's
important to understand what Jen was
stating a little bit ago that we have
the opportunity to do this I don't know
the numbers and maybe Jen um does or
someone else on Council or maybe Danny
and other communities how much harder
this would be for them because they have
Standalone vaping stores all over their
Community um when Richard mentions
potential lawsuits I mean I would see in
those areas that um they have a lot more
um challenges and this is an opportunity
for Beckley to make a statement um with
this ordinance I just wanted to
reiterate where we are compared to other
communities and the locations um that we
have selling this compar compared to
other
communities you know I I don't have
specific numbers for you Jess um but I
do um this of course was pre-co before
we all got busy with 18 other uh public
health issues but um I I did begin a
conversation with a councilman member in
whiteall who was very interested they do
have a vape shop um and maybe more than
one now I I I I'd have to double check U
my information but this is something
that they were very interested in you
know Bexley being you know kind of the
first Domino that kind of sets a
precedent um and you know to be quite
honest that's something that has always
made me very proud to be a Bexley
resident is that we have the ability to
do these things and and be an example to
other communities so um you know that
aside um I do to your point and we do
because we're a small community and
because we have you know in terms of
those markets that are selling Vapes you
know we we have three as as compared to
to many um and it does put us in a
unique position to pass some some
serious and meaningful legislation
around
this thank you I think we have um some
other hands raised Mr Mr Kingler has his
hand raised Matt
uh thank you Madame President um Jen
have you do you know the economic impact
of banning this for the three locations
in Bexley I don't have I don't have
specific figures Matt um I do know that
um Market District would be um probably
the least affected um by this um I don't
again I don't have specific numbers it's
certainly something I can get but this
isn't this isn't something that um is
going to put people out of business this
is just going to create an opportunity
or create one less um Avenue for you
know for kids and for um for others to
get their hands on on these um on these
substances you know during my um during
my own little bit of research I found it
really interesting that high
institutions of higher education have um
baned them and Duke University's case
from their facilities
well Texas A&M and California State
University banned them completely from
campus and not just flavored vaping
vaping so I I I thought that was really
interesting especially since you know
while we're dealing with teenagers here
they're still dealing with teenagers
some of whom I you know I can't I I'm
not a physician but I have a believe I
believe that they their brains aren't
quite finished developing at that age
either so I thought that was really
interesting um
it looks like Troy Markham has his hand
in the air
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Troy Jen knows what I'm gonna say here
but I gotta
say I I appreciate her work on this and
I appreciate the testimony here and I am
fully convinced to the health hazards of
vaping and I am the parent of a teenager
uh I have expressed before and I'll
Express then tonight that I I cannot
support this um even even with that
because only because I I just do not
believe that this actually addresses the
issue
legislatively um and and I just want to
explain that I am definitely not uh uh
in any way uh protective of uh teenagers
vaping but I I will reiterate that it is
currently already against the law for
for uh miners to purchase these uh uh
vaping materials so this ordinance
unfortunately would make it illegal for
an adult a consenting adult to purchase
vaping materials and and I guess I have
some concerns with that um I feel like
that's a slippery slope for us to start
removing uh uh uh Banning products from
that should be able to be purchased by
adults in order to hopefully keep them
out of the hands of Miners and I I think
if we start on that list that's a a a
pretty long list I'm also I'm also
I guess I I I do feel that there are a
large number of adults who uh have
difficulty quitting smoking and and they
do utilize vaping as a way to maybe wean
themselves off of that and I think they
should have that right I think they
should have that right to purchase uh
these products um I do Echo what Richard
said I I think if we wanted to maybe
address this more effectively uh I could
see uh sending a resolution uh to to ban
vaping products maybe uh Statewide if
you know if we feel like this this is a
dangerous uh product um that would seem
to be more effective uh and then I would
also say it's probably much more
effective for us to maybe focus on the
enforcement of the the current uh
existing laws uh here and in Bexley and
everywhere else where it would it is
currently already illegal uh for uh for
miners to purchase this and that's all I
have to say and uh again definitely no
disrespect to uh uh Jen Robinson and uh
I appreciate her work on this and I want
to say that I appreciate Jen's uh
willingness to uh argue with me uh over
the last few months on this and uh and I
appreciate uh her voice here on Council
always he's been pretty steadfast with
his opinion for quite some some months
he has not wavered is and I tried I have
tried Troy Markham I have tried indeed
and may I just say one one last thing to
Troy's Point um and I hear I hear where
you're coming from but I do want to just
reiterate that you know if individuals
sincerely want to purchase these
products they're going to find a way to
to purchase these products so while I
appreciate your concern um and hesitancy
to to make something um completely
illegal across the board um you know
this doesn't as much as I wish it could
address the Kroger on Main Street or the
V shop in whiteall or access to any and
everything that you can get online these
days this is a statement that we're
making as elected officials that we care
about the health and well-being of our
children and all of our residents and
that we are willing to to to take a
stand so that we ensure that our kids
don't have access to to these things um
listen I've been I I work with high
school kids I can't tell you how many
times somebody has been in the room with
something and they're like Miss Jen did
you know that's a vape pen I had no idea
like none at all so you know even the
most diligent parent or guardian or
adult in the room isn't always going to
know um you know what what their kids
are up to so I just think this is very
important so to Troy's point I hear you
thanks for arguing with me he even took
an argument call from me on Sunday so I
appreciate you Troy Markham and um I
appreciate your um your energy and your
thought process as well so um do we have
any I think I think Matt Clinger has his
hand either still up or still up but
nothing to say okay uh Richard has his
hand up again Mr
Sharp yes um thank you um I was just
wondering how this flies in the trend of
legalization of other products um
Nationwide
um Mar marijuana and then in Oregon
other types of drugs that are clearly
not beneficial to adults but um are we
what makes this different than those
type of
things well the immed problem I would
say the the problem here um as far as
cook like the other drugs that orgon
legalized uh personal position
possession
of um yeah um I I don't know that I have
a good answer for you Richard um you
know this
is yeah I I don't know that I have a
good answer for you other than this is
something that we have you know that is
affecting our community right now and we
have the ability to do something about
it and I think it's important that we
that we do I might just jump in are you
able to hear me yes yes please nicotine
is one of the most add substances on the
planet much much more addictive than
marijuana for instance so that that
would be one answer Richard I would say
is that in it might be that uh you know
a state has passed um a law allowing
marijuana use that has some issues
marijuana is much less addictive than
nicotine and as Dr Berlin had pointed
out these e products oftentimes deliver
much much more than you would get even
in a traditional cigarette they're
they're a real hook for kids to start a
lifelong um pattern of not just use of
this but evolving into cigarette smoking
so that would be one answer I would say
nicotine is particularly dangerous I
would
argue thank you um I don't see any more
hands raised from our panelists or from
our council members um I think just
prior to us doing the Amendments we
should see if there is anyone in
attendance who would like to share any
thoughts they might have at this
time you can do that simply by clicking
the um hand um icon and um I would ask
that you share your name and your um and
your
address Madame President uh this is
Danny Hurley can I make one comment just
going back to some of the issues raised
by by the other council members please
do just you know my my background I deal
primarily in state doing policy work and
lobbying and I would just say you know
last year Ohio became you know one of a
handful of states to actually prohibit
the sale tobacco products uh up to age
21 um and that was a really big step
forward and certainly that was Statewide
and we can all celebrate that but the
three years preceding that saw a number
of communities actually enact tobacco 21
laws and that sort of build up a
critical mass that then compelled the
state to act so I would say something
like this you know to the point of hey
we should have a Statewide ban on um
flavored Vapor Products that's fantastic
I've actually been lobbying the den wine
Administration for that but for a number
of reasons largely political and and
within the general assembly that's not
something that's on the table right now
but if more and more cities do step up
and do enact this locally it does start
to build that critical mass and um and I
would expect you know if Bexley takes
this first step and more communities get
on board I know Toledo has actually
already done this so you start to build
that mass up and before you know it uh
when the general assem looks around and
sees that half of Ohio and live in
jurisdiction where a product or or an
activity has been prohibited for very
good reason it's a much easier sell than
for the state government say okay we
should do this um and that's I wish it
weren't that way believe me my life
would be a lot easier my job would be a
lot easier but you know it's it's you
know if states are Laboratories for
democracy you know local governments are
really Laboratories for good Public
Health policy so I do hope um I do hope
uh we we are able to get the stun in
Bexley thank you Doctor we appreciate
your thoughts thank you for I didn't see
anybody in attendance have any questions
but I do see um Jessica sod's
hand Danny um you just touched upon
Toledo um passing this how many do you
know approximately how many locations
they have in that area that um saw
vaping products similar to our
interestingly and and I I would need to
dig into those more but my understand is
in Toledo they Exempted out the
specialty vapor shops to your earlier
point they said you know convenience
stores gas stations grocery stores you
cannot sell but if you are a specialty
Vapor Shop um they actually exemp them
them out of the ordinance so that's a
that's how they dealt with that Vapor
Shop issue in Toledo but um I I've not
studied Toledo ordinance at length so
yeah that's a that's a great Point IT
addresses the locations we're looking at
here in Bexley and um I think it's a
good starting point again just kind of
reiterating why this ordinance is so
important so thank you for sharing
thanks everyone I'm going to ask Jen to
lead us through um uh and just uh have
us look at the
um the Amendments please and I do think
that um Mr fishell has some um comments
on that perhaps we should address those
first Mr Mr offishal yeah so sorry I
have not seen this before just now so um
the I guess my first question is and I
know this was discussed before for but I
am not seeing where there's an actual
definition or reference I mean there's
it talks about flavored vaping product
in section c two paragraph C that'll be
part of the amendment but Jen you
mentioned earlier that you were you took
out or or I'm not seeing where there's a
definition of what flavored
is okay um mayor can you pull up the
ordin
yes one second thank
you okay if we go down under flavored
vaping
product okay this is not the same
ordinance I'm looking at this is right
this is the amended this is the new
there is proposed amended yeah proposed
amended so wait wait mayor you just
because the mayor just sent me this
because again like I said I hadn't seen
it there's two there there's an
ordinance 3420 revision and then
proposed amended
3420 so which one is this this is
proposed 3420 okay proposed 3420 my
proposed
3420 looks is that section two I can't
see yes it says section two is different
than looks different than that it is it
has it was amended the last time we
looked at this
several meetings ago oh
I'm okay and we addressed I tried to
export it from uh Google Docs and it for
some reason didn't export with the
changes so that's probably why that is
Mark okay one second let me um let me do
that I apologize and maybe I don't have
any comments but hopefully
not not sure why that is uh and while
we're looking um at this I do want to
mention mention um just for the benefit
of those in attendance tonight that I
did send a letter of support um from a
number of our residents around to
council today I hope you had a chance to
read that um it was actually um 41
Physicians here in Bexley and nine other
heal health professionals for a total of
50 Bexley residents who um stand in
support of this ordinance so um check
your emails if you haven't had a chance
to read that yet beautiful we we we got
Mr
Mr fishel's eyes a little bit closer and
um he says it's it's fine so okay do you
want to walk us through what what
amendments do we have to make though um
these are all grammatical um okay yeah
it's like a period here or a space there
or um an S taken off do we need to amend
that then Mr official if it's if these
are just grammatical we do I think we do
okay well then do you have a motion um
Miss Robinson to approve amended
ordinance 3420 time out no you are
motioning to amend amended oh that's
right we have to amend it before yep
Lord there's so many steps I Jess is
laughing I propose that we amend
ordinance
3420 thank you there's a first is there
a second second Jess I heard a second
from Jess thank you for identifying
yourself
any questions on amending these
grammatical changes from um Council uh
does anybody see any hands I am not
seeing the hands um I don't see any
hands any anyone in uh an attendance
that would like to comment on the
grammatical
changes all right we have a first and we
have a second Mr auditor Mr
Sharp um I'm not sure I've seen all the
I I'm not sure I understand what we're
approving what's on the screen has
already been amended or we're amending
the green items and yes Mr Sharp there's
there are just grammatical changes that
need to be changed all the other
amendments were already made last week
or two weeks ago okay then yes okay
refresh work okay um
Mr
auditor Mr Sharp you said
yes yes m f yes Mr Mar yes to the
Amendments M Robinson
yes yes L
yes
yes all right Miss Robinson do you have
action on second amended ordinance
number 3420
yes so I would then um make a motion to
approve second amended ordinance
3420 is there a second second not sure
who that
was it Monique oh it was Jess again okay
um all right thank you
Jessica all right council members anyone
have any comments on uh the second
amended
um ordinance it looks like uh Mr Kingler
does yeah I just wanted to say um I've
struggled with this one because I I see
um councilman markham's um point of view
and I I definitely understand that but
as um a person
who uh started using um um chewing
tobacco flavored chewing tobacco in High
School freshman year uh has since
struggled with it
um for you know until until present day
uh I I wish there was an ordinance in
place in city of Columbus maybe back
then that didn't allow that uh that
could have maybe stopped me from from
getting it
um so I struggled with this this one but
um I can definitely definitely get
behind it so I just wanted to say
that thank thank you Mr Kingler uh Mr
Sharp yeah
um our our current ordinances do not
allow the sale of flavored products to
21 and under is that correct or is it
just we don't allow ecigarettes
do do we allow the
flavor our current ordinance allow the
flavor packets to be sold right
it does there's no current prohibition
against it to 18 and
above right right correct that's correct
that's state
law right yes state
law but flavored products are are not
allowed to be sold currently to under
age 21 correct it's 21 now right yes
that's correct okay
um anyone else um from Council have any
comments I will just I will just uh add
that I want to make it absolutely as
difficult as it possibly is for um any
teenager in my household or any teenager
in any of the households within Bexley
um to be able to get a hold of this I I
understand they want it that badly
they'll get it I also understand that if
I want to use it all I have to do is go
to James and Broad and I can get some um
so I'm just I'm saying I'm just saying
that as an as a former educator I I know
that those teachers need those brains
that are developing to be absolutely as
fresh as possible and um that's where I
stand with that one miss um lampy has
her hand up
Monique um just to follow up with your
comments president fible I am support of
second amended um this second amended
ordinance um I think that uh council
member Robinson has done a amazing job
of not only uh uh giving us the facts
and being detailed but also bringing the
science to us um certainly tonight was
no exception um and I as with you um
would love to prevent our youth from ACC
accessing uh vaping products and if this
ordinance throws a curveball in that
direction then so be it I'm in full
support thank you Miss
lamkey I no longer see any hands from
the panelists I would love to give um
our attendees one more opportunity to to
speak if they care
to I don't see any um M Robinson um and
Miss uh sod have the motion on the table
don't they I thought so I wanted to make
sure um so with that Mr auditor M
Robinson
yes absolutely yes Mr
Mar
no
yes an absolute yes Mr
Shar preferring a resolution but
yes m l yes
all right thanks for your amazing hard
work uh Miss Robinson I want to thank
our physicians that came to share their
thoughts uh about the science about
other policy I thought that was uh Dr
Hurley adding on that policy piece um to
to it was really um wonderful and thank
you so much for Gathering all the other
Physicians um to sign the document with
that can we please move on to the next
table door ordinance that we have and
forgive me I am having PRS amended
ordinance 2720 is the next one all right
um Mr Sharp Mr Sharp do you have any
we've had a lot of uh discussion on that
one tonight do you w to take it off the
table uh Madame President I'd like to
take ordinance 27- amended ordinance
27-20 off the table for
discussion all right um is there a
second
second there's a second by miss lamkey
all those in favor um please signify by
saying I all those all those posted uh
same
sign I will just add before we we talk
about this that I already have about uh
eight or nine people who have additional
questions about this um about this uh
piece of legislation
Richard so I'd like to thank Council and
the residents for participating in the
public meeting that was held at 5:00 uh
this evening and um for the um Andy and
Dave hook in attending and the mayor for
his
presentation and um if
it is okay with the president um if we
can open up to the questions from the
audience maybe you read read them um to
us so that um those who may not have
been able to attend have an opportunity
to um have their comments put on the
public record and then I would like
after that the the mayor and Mark to
give a um recommendation as to where
they would um see the process going as
far as whether um
we would try to pass this current
ordinance this evening with a possible
amendment to reflect that a loan
Assessment program would be dependent on
a future companion ordinance so that um
the city can begin the process of
preparing for the inspection process for
residents or um whether that is a
complicating uh scenario that the mayor
would prefer not to go down that
route Richard with all with all due
respect
um the individuals who are with us as
attendees none of them sync up with the
individuals who have shared their um
shared an email with me um so I think
that to get through these emails is
going to
I just think that it's going to take a
long time I will I I will defer to the
rest of council I am I am not going to
make that decision by myself but I I
know that we have a lot of budget items
to take care of tonight and that's fine
I would just I would just say if there's
if there are any attendees that did not
have an opportunity to attend and they
have a a question if they can quickly
raise their hand um and then we can
address the email comments um offline
okay fair enough are there any are there
any in attendance who would like to um
share a question they might have about
this particular
ordinance I don't see any hands Richard
but thank you for doing that so mayor if
we can have some insight is to see to
seeing the direction that that you're
anticipating or would
uh like for Council to consider this
evening thank you Richard I would like
to take the feedback we received this
evening and and assimilated along with
what's coming in via email um there were
some really good questions asked tonight
um I don't feel comfortable moving
forward with 2720 until we've had a
chance to think through some of those
questions and I anticipate further to
come and then coming back to council
with uh any recommended amendments after
working with you through those
okay that's fair enough are there any
other questions from Council regarding
this um before I would put it make a
motion to put it back on the table
Richard Miss lankey has her hand raised
Monique um as president F will mention
we've gotten just a a number of emails
since our uh public form a few minutes
ago U my question is really more for the
mayor uh mayor when you respond to um
those emails with the expert advice of
Mr bashore and uh and uh our city
Engineers would you be replying to all
of us so that we can see the response
and also gain additional
information yeah actually what I
probably would prefer to do is just take
all those emails um find if there are
any common questions and just sort of do
a little little FAQ and then just send
it to the people who had uh emailed us
and obviously include you guys in on
that be great okay that would be very
helpful thank
you sounds like a great game plan any
council members anybody else have any
questions or
comments if there's nothing else that
Madam president I'd like to make a
motion to table amended ordinance
27-20 thank you Mr Sharp is there a
second a second I think that was Mr
Kingler um all those in favor signify by
saying I I I all those oppos same
sign all right moving on to
moving on to the next one Monique um you
need to
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mute
worse I'm having problems finding my
there we go 43
4319 it's a Mr
Markham um small cell facilities Mr
Markham do you have action on um
ordinance
4319 no action no action leaving it on
the table um this is not an action item
but if Council wishes to they will find
um an updated small cell design
guidelines it's clean now it has all of
the holes filled and um the the thing I
would ask us to consider at the next
meeting is to formally amend the
ordinance for the RightWay ordinance so
that I can then circulate it to the
utilities uh to get some feedback prior
to passage that's not action that's just
just informative thank you loving it
moving on we've got Miss Robinson has
some more uh to say to 4320 how' I miss
4320 uh Rich uh on housing I you are
right Richard 4320 Housing Voucher
acceptance grant program you're on
Sir Madam president I'd like to um
remove second amended ordinance
43-20 off the table for the purpose of
discussion thank you Richard is there
second
second uh I think I think Matt Kingler
beat you to it Jen um all those in
favor I I those opposed same sign all
right Richard you're on okay um I had a
discussion and online um discussion with
the mayor and he submitted some
proposals and um I've have a compromis
proposed third amended ordinance if the
mayor can bring that
up okay and if we go down to the second
page through the
whereases um you will see I didn't do a
Redline version because I'm not very
good with with them and it clutters
things up and I can't keep track of what
I've done and what I haven't um but I've
removed the section regarding the um
presenta the training in um Beckley um
and um just and change the requirements
so that there's just proof of the three
um requirements and the demographic
information that can be submitted by
anyone who goes through the
process um and um having the just mail
out and publicize the voucher acceptance
gr program and the application that the
uh Administration would uh decide on and
then um going down to the next
page the dollar amounts are staying
staying the same and the annual limit um
the the uh appropriation is still the
same um any funds not expended by
December 31st will remain appropriate
and carry forward to
2021 and instead of the mayor reporting
semiannually that the finance director
just presents an annual report to city
council by November 30th so that um
council is aware for budgeting purposes
if there's any desire at that time to
make
appropriation as has been recommended by
some of the house um housing a
affordability um Advocates that we've
had speaking to council before that that
can be considered at that time um and um
this would not obligate Council to
continuing the program but would just um
during the budget season allow for a
review of the statistics and the
demographic information of um potential
new residents that have benefited by the
program so basically a lot has been cut
not hardly anything added um
and um the uh dates changed and the
responsibility so um I would like to
make a motion to amend second amended
ordinance 20 um 3- 4320 20 um to
4320 43-20 to what's on the um
screen thank you Mr Sharp um is there a
second I think that was Jessica sad okay
is there are there any questions about
the
Amendments or the
deletions from
Council any from the
attendees okay with a first and a second
on amending I will turn it over to the
auditor yes
L
yes yes M yes
Mr yes
yes I believe he said
sharp Mr Mar
yes all right um Mr Sharp do you have
any action on is it second or third
third amended ordinance
4320 I I'd be interested if there were
comments from Council as to um
the continued desirability of this
program and I see Mr Markham has his
hand raised Mr
Markham uh my question is just we know
when we left this last time I know we
had uh at least I had I I think maybe
others had concern about being able to
administrate this um and I know that you
and the mayor were going to get to
together to talk about that what were do
you feel confident does the mayor
confident that you could administrate
this program
effectively um so the way that this is
uh is now uh worded I feel confident
Troy that that we could administer it I
continue and I you know I was clear with
Richard I'm not confident that this is
going to be a GameChanger I think that
uh you know there's a whole lot of uh
compliance here and I I think it's
unlikely that a a property owner will um
sort of try to find voucher tenants
based upon this program but um
nonetheless I think that it is
administrable I think it's a question of
creating a form communicating to
landlords and uh receiving any uh uh
receiving any uh forms back of landlords
who have who are going through the
program and if there are landlords going
through the program that's great so I
appreciate Richard working with me this
has been greatly streamlined um um this
is the first I've had a chance to look
through the changes after we talked um
so I want to if this were something that
Council were to pass I can assure becher
that I would assist the finance director
in creating the annual report that I'm
seeing
here Troy do you have anything
further I I would just like to say that
you know I didn't create
um this um this ordinance you know
to to to cause our city um to have to
Shell out money um I I I simply
wanted um people to be fair and
Equitable about how they went about um
Leasing Property to everyone and well I
understand that Richard is trying really
hard to make it okay for the landlords
or at least easier for the landlords I
was and and I really appreciate that he
worked with um the mayor I'm really
struggling with the idea of during covid
um asking our
um Community uh to to um set aside
$10,000 for this so I'm I'm just really
concerned about that so I will I'll put
that out there and are is is there
anyone else um that would like to
comment Miss lampy has her hand up and
so does Mr Sharp
Monique um my question is really more
for Mr Sharp um I was a little confused
on which version we would be discussing
tonight um I think on the website I saw
um maybe some other proposed amendments
um is there your intention to to try to
adopt this tonight or would you be
willing to give us uh maybe another two
weeks so that we can look at what was
just amend it and go over with the fine
tooth
comb I have no problem with um tbling
this um so that Council can look at at
the changes and verify that it's a
reduction of uh wording and simpl
simplifying um the process
um I would like to say um to um Madame
President um I think it is important
that the the city and encouraging
diversity that we do all that we help
all that we can to help our
landlords um understand the new source
of income and to
encourage um participation which um is
virtually
non-existent in our city with the um
housing Choice programs I think there's
a lot of um trepidation
by by residents not sure what there
especially people who only own one
property um as to to
what
um what they would be getting into
accepting housing vouchers just to to um
make it an easy process for them they
still regardless um they should be going
through
CMHA ahead of time so that they can be
prepared to accept housing vouchers if
they have applicants that um are
interested in their properties and so I
think this is just a way that we can
promote um the um ordinance and at the
same time
assist landlords to make it easy so that
we are the diverse community that we
want to
be Madam president just I want to point
out real quickly sorry to
interject um Miss lampy mentioned two
weeks I just want to point out that our
next city council meeting is in one week
one week it is in one week which which
which is still enough time I would I
would guess for us to to sift through
this but thank you for pointing that out
um Mr Markham it looks as though um
Jessica sad has her hand up as does
Mo'Nique lamp key I'm not sure if
Mo'Nique still has her hand up or if she
has it up again thank you Mo'Nique um
Jessica question thanks president f um
Richard have we been in contact with
someone from CMHA
yet I know I I brought that up at our
last meeting to just give their opinion
and then as far as
education um I'm I'm sorry I'm having a
hard time
hearing your
speaker okay is that better yeah you are
a little quiet okay I'm sorry um have we
been in contact with CMHA do we have a
representative we're speaking to on
behalf of this
ordinance the well the um housing advant
that we were working with have had been
in touch with uh see made
CMHA um
they and just to make it easy because of
Co continuing um that's one of the
reasons I uh deleted the section about
having meetings uh specialized meetings
in
Bexley so the information that we would
send out would reference um the um
CMHA
um Housing Voucher Program
for landlords to register directly
with right I'm just love to hear like
there with I president F's the 10,000
from the general fund during this time
I'm not saying I'm not opposed or I'm
not for or opposed I'm just I would love
to hear a little bit more about what
they think on
that that's something other communities
it's
needed well
just a
question yeah I'm I would think that
they would be in favor of encouraging
more participation in the program I I
don't know what answer that you're um
wanting to get I think if that if we
would have had
a continued sessions at City Hall maybe
there would be reputation and and
sending their um staff or participating
personally um since they don't do that
with other um municipalities at the
moment and and not wanting to set the
president of doing
that so that's why I deleted that
section I didn't want to put them in a
in a position where they would have to
say know they didn't want to
participate um because it would set a
precedent for them and other
communities thank you Jessica thank you
Richard your hands are still raised do
you have more to share before we move
on I Madame President um in light of um
councilwoman lampy's uh suggestion I
would like to table ordinance uh third
amended ordinance 20 43-20
thank you so much Mr Sharp is there a
second
second all those in favor signified by
saying I I
I all those opposed same
sign Mr Kingler I fear that I I missed
your hand I'm so sorry um hopefully we
can I'm sorry oh no that's okay I'll
it's it was just informational on the
CMHA they offer classes for landlord I
was just going to mention that I can
send it via email thank you so much
forgive me no it's all good all right um
looks like we are are we now to Jess I
think we're back to you Jess do you have
any action on 3920
ma'am well Jess probably doesn't but I
do I didn't mean Jess I meant Jen
forgive me I GI up
again I think strike one strike two
strike three I get to leave right
do I don't think Jen yes I do um I would
like to make a motion to remove
ordinance 3920 from the table how about
I second that all right we got first
from Jen and a second from Jessica all
those favor signifi by saying I I I I uh
those oppos same
sign I believe you have some action on
ordinance
3920 I do I do I have had um many really
wonderful conversations with community
members um over the last uh well several
weeks months time is is um getting away
from me but um as a result I'm going to
be asking um Council to remove this
ordinance from consideration purum to
ordinance
3320 so um during I think your verbage
is withdrawal please oh did I say yeah
withdraw yes that's fine it's all good
not remove but withdraw uh yes um and
then during the first readings portions
of of tonight's meeting I will be
presenting a resolution in its place but
um in the meantime I would motion to
withdraw ordinance 3920 from the
agenda okay um councilman councilwoman
Robinson has made a motion to withdraw
um ordinance 3920 is there a
second second second I heard Mr Kingler
say second um I think this is just a
Voice vote all those in favor of
withdrawal signify by saying yes yes yes
yes all those opposed same
sign okay ordinance
3920 is been withdrawn um we have no
more um yeah we do we do why assume
there's no action there's no an action
because there's not supposed to be
action until February 9th for the next
Madam president that's why I had Debbie
add that um date to the agenda listing
so that we could skip over it at every
meeting and not have to remember right
that was that was my assumption all
right Al again let me make this clear
legally anybody can take it off the
table anytime they want I'm not
advocating that but they can't gotcha
all right so we have a third reading yes
please all right third reading of
ordinance 45-20 to authorize the mayor
and auditor to enter into a contract
between the city of Bexley and Franklin
County Public Health introduced by m
Robinson Miss Robinson hi again um yes
um this is the ordinance that uh we
looked at um the last couple meetings
that would um just further the the
contract that we currently have going
with frankly County uh Public Health um
mayor I am going to ask if yes you and
and and um and Mr official had a chance
to discuss the
proposed yes Jen we did and and I just
want to note that I do know that your
name is Jen so uh oh what's the he what
is this you win a prize but then of
course I attached the wrong thing to the
agenda so I lose the prize that I just
won somehow
I H somehow I got The Vaping ordinance
attached to there is
the amended 4520 hold on okay give me a
second here
please uh so I need to can I explain
what it is while you are yes please
thank you pleas for it so um we did not
put this on the cons consent agenda at
the last meeting because we wanted to
see if we could explore an Avenue to add
um verbage that would um allow us to
receive information about covid um
updates um in in a more um succinct fash
and on a more regular basis and um also
just considerations going forward now
that you know looks like fiser may have
a vaccine sometime soon fingers crossed
um so we definitely wanted to address
that in this
contract um and if mayor Kesler has
found uh that amended contract you can
see
where we've added
language there it is in section
two and I believe u mayor Kesler do you
have an example of what that um that um
information would potentially look
like oh of course I do um you'll have to
give me two more hot seconds but uh
let's let's just if we can while I'm
doing that if you could uh if we could
walk
through uh a uh sort of that this so
what this is doing it's directing us to
seek the amendment what that means is we
could continue to sign uh and um execute
the contract without the amendment so
it's not requiring the amendment but it
is Council asking for it I think that's
powerful we've asked for this
information in the past um you know Mark
looked at this and said that's fine good
luck getting it uh that's you know
that's all right it might not good stuff
it might not work not gonna get if you
don't ask that's right we kept asking
we'll keep asking we're trying
everything so that I added to the agenda
this thing called Bexley cases and it's
example of what was given to us at our
last Beckley Board of Health meeting and
this is what we would like to get on a
weekly basis so what's really and
actually we did add one more um thing to
this which was congregant care
information so this this sort of dive
into age groups uh Case by AG groups uh
not just overall but in over the past
two weeks um context of you know
congregant care versus not congregant
care attending to school college or
university versus not um and in bexley's
case knowing specifically if it was
a Bexley college or university that
would be helpful that's a sort of
information that would allow us to more
carefully hun our messaging and even
potentially policy as it pertains to
this so that was the thought behind uh
the language in uh this proposed
amendment looks like it would also help
us try to decide how we can help um how
we can help how we can get our
volunteers where they need to be
potentially y so this looks like really
good stuff so to to just reiterate what
you said mayor we would be voting on
this contract with the caveat not the
caveat but a and you would be asking for
this to be in addition so the contract
would pass whether um Franklin County
Public Health agrees to this or not
that's correct yes
okay so does anybody have any
questions do anybody have any questions
on this um potential Amendment to the
contract I don't see any Jen do you have
a do you have a to moot a motion on this
um amended version I mean to amend it do
you have a motion to amend I guess is
what I'm asking I motion to amend um
ordinance 30 no wrong ordinance 4520
any questions on is there a
second second I think that was Monique
um any questions about the
amendment any questions from the
attendees about the
amendment Mr
auditor Miss
sad yes Miss Robinson yes Mr Markham yes
Miss Lamy yes Miss F yes Mr
yes Mr Kingler
yes motion
passes all right um any um there's
someone that had Richard has their his
hand raised Mr Sharp I'm sorry I didn't
get my hand raised quick enough before
we voted on the amendment um I'm sorry
is
this don't we periodically have
supplemental agreements with the board
of heal health for various temporary
issues
M Mr auditor give a comment yeah we do
sometimes like I think sometimes when
they do extra work for the mosquito
contract for example they had stuff yeah
I'm not sure that's kind of referred in
the agreement but maybe that's what
you're referring to there's other stuff
in the agreement too about plumbing and
you know yeah yeah okay that answer your
question Mr Sharp well I was gonna say
could we make it a little bit more
flexible for them that the mayor is
directed to seek in a amendment to
section three or a
supplemental
contract you know Richard I I just it's
okay Madam president I resp that I I
would view my direction to seek an
amendment to section three with giving
me flexibility if the general intent and
purpose is the same and we get the same
out outcome I I I feel that that's
sufficient okay as long as um council is
aware of that that's fine
thank you Mr
Sharp all right is there
um action on uh this um amended version
Miss Robinson yes I vote to approve
amended ordinance
4520 thank you Miss Robinson is there a
second second by Mr Sharp thank you Mr
Sharp I appreciate it um I'm GNA ask the
attendees if they have any questions
about this amended version
before we vote on
it anybody from Council have anything
further Richard your hands up I'm
assuming it's just thank you still up
all right Mr Lamy yes Miss F yes Mr
Markham yes Mr Sharp yes M Robinson yes
Mr Kingler yes Miss
sad
mad yes all right pass all right we are
on to the second readings then ordinance
49-20 to amend chapter 888 of the
codified ordinances Mr introduced by Mr
Markham that is a bad title Mr Mar it's
so vague you don't even know what it is
but it is our single-use Plastics I I
I'm sorry to interrupt I I really feel
like I should read the full title which
wasn't written in the in the in the
agenda so it's a second reading of
ordinance 49-20 an ordinance to amend
chapter 888 of the codified ordinances
and to appropriate $2,500 from The
Refuge Fund in order to provide for a
grant program to assist businesses with
any increase in costs associated with
the prohibition on single use Plastics
Mr mer yeah so we had the first reading
of this at the last meeting uh we took a
look at it uh it is simply our are uh
the single use Plastics ban that we
passed
last year and took effect uh this year
um and we have Rewritten this so that it
falls in accord with the new State uh
legislation and it
reinstituted plastic uh band within our
city and I I believe uh I think Richard
you had I I believe you had a question
about this I think you may have sent me
an email asking me and I did not reply
or you had asked about City events
perhaps is that
true
Richard maybe he didn't I don't remember
asking you a question I think I did I'm
sorry it was Bill I'm sorry it was Bill
Harvey go ahead and ask that question
then if you would like to uh someplace
in here I think you referred to plastic
bags for personal
use no I don't have
it I I think personal use and I question
whether it should say commercial use as
well uh I believe you might be talking
about plastic utensils uh uh and Carry
Out containers and I think those are
what pertain to the City events unless
unless I'm Mis misinterpreting question
see here because
it's all right does anyone else have any
questions while Mr Harvey's looking uh
for that potentially on just to clarify
there is there's no there is no rtion on
personal use of of any of these items
just to be
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clear does anybody in attendance have
any questions about this um ordinance
while we're waiting for Mr Harvey to
find the spot that he's concerned
about I don't think
so Mr Harvey I don't see it here here
Ben I mean Bill here's a hard copy but
it could be addressed next meeting too
here's the
yes if you find it again send me the
I'll I'll make a note of
it all right Troy do you have any more
action on this it doesn't look like
anybody has any more questions about it
no action no more no further action
thank you again for all your hard work
on this
one okay
um now we have a second reading of
ordinance 47-20 to approve the school
resource officer agreement with the
Catholic dases for the 2021 2022 school
year Miss Robinson you are a busy lady
tonight Miss Robinson what do you got
for us um well this um I we had the the
uh the benefit of having um Mr laau on
our call last week who is the principal
at St Charles this is a renewal of the
contract um for the
SRO um who um serves are uh who serves
St Charles um I don't believe there's
much that changed from last year to this
year it's just um extending that that
contract for another year Mr Fisher
official nothing has changed from last
year is it they're still paying 100%
nothing has changed from last year
they're still paying
100% And um the only that might change
is how much they're paying because of
raises in the police department but
that's all being covered and he's
currently doing the work so exactly um
everybody loves him there so it's they
do love him there looks like Miss Lan
has her hand in the air to have um
either to comment or to ask onique um I
just wanted to clarify it's for next
academic Year from 21 to 22 is that
right correct no that is incorrect
that's a typ COR that's a typo it's not
from 20 it's 2020 to 2021 and I believe
the
ordinance I gota look at the ordinance
here from 20 it's 2020 to
20211 so it's I think it's August 20 21
to no it's retroactive to this past oh
we're behind 2021 2022 languages through
out a lot of this stuff everybody's
confused well then we will um
well we will fix that between now and uh
next Tuesday and we will
um I guess we will amend it then yes
actually 4720 is correct other than
there's a typo in the in the title of
the actual ordinance if you click on it
it says 2020 to 2012 school year it's
just a transposition of numbers okay but
the rest of it does say 2020 to 2021 so
it's just an air in what the the T it's
just an air on um how it was put on
the agenda on the agenda okay and the
agreement says July 1 2020 through June
30th 2021 so okay we ready to go other
than that okay there was some confus
there then I and that then and that
could have been me confusing um Miss
mayor so because I was confused so um
that's actually not even Debbie's fault
at all because I changed it because we
we were looking at the uh my my my fault
because I called you to to discuss this
all I know is it's not my fault it's
Bill's fault it doesn't matter we're
gonna get we're gonna have it
fixed is there anybody in attendance uh
that has any questions about this um
ordinance 40 720 which is for this year
and I don't see any um anybody from
Council that has any questions about
this all right seeing none Miss Robinson
is okay we' moveed forward on this move
forward please all right thank you all
right so now we have a second reading of
ordinance 48-20 authorizing the mayor
and
auditor to sorry I got confused because
we have the repeat coming up on or
ordinance 48-20 authorizing the mayor
and auditor to sign a consent and hold
harmless agreement on behalf of the city
of Bexley with the property owner of 346
North D Drexel Avenue parcel number 020
d004 317 regarding improvements made
upon and within the city owned street
right of way adjacent to Maryland Avenue
mad yes so this um ordinance is
basically to help the residents who have
been affected
um uh oh she froze oh no can't hear
you this ordinance is uh the ordinance
that we talked about about the um lining
of the trees that we we felt like helped
beautify um what those residents did
with the trees that they put in it was
we saw that as an improvement um um to
What the residents did and I believe we
pulled up a picture at our last council
meeting we did indeed yes and if you
haven't had a chance to drive by there I
highly encourage you to do so as I spoke
last council meeting I've had many
opportunities to drive by and until this
came up at the last meeting um I was
wondering what looked different about
that home which I knew the prior owners
and uh this is it and it's a
beautification right thanks Miss sad um
does anybody have any questions about
this do does anybody in attendance have
any questions about this missad is this
I I I feel as though this could be
something we could put on the consent
agenda and I had um the City attorney
Whispering that in my ear just a couple
minutes ago so it wasn't exactly my idea
are you okay with that love to make a
motion to put this on the consent agenda
perfect okay so we do doesn't really
need a motion you don't need a motion
but it's all good a consensus to do it a
consensus to do it would be great
everybody okay with that okay um we have
um because plastic bags are so single-
used plastic bags are so important to us
we put it they're so nice we decided to
put them on twice um but I think we can
move on to our first readings all right
a first reading of ordinance 51-20
authorizing the mayor and auditor to
sign a consent and hold harmless
agreement on behalf of the city of
Bexley with the property owner located
at 215 North Park regarding improvements
made upon within the city owned Jeffrey
Mansion property adjacent to the
privately owned property
msad yes thank you Mr official um so I'm
gonna touch upon this briefly and then
I'm gonna ask that um Mr Price come on
and uh also share with this ordinance
but basically um as we have all been V
visiting the mansion and um all of its
amazing improvements upon that that has
fected the resident there at 215 North
Park View in that um I believe some of
their Landscaping mic was removed and so
this ordinance is going to allow them um
to put back up some
beautification and also help Shield them
from um you know from all of the uh
wonderfulness of the whole Community
being there at the Mansion so it allow
them to kind of put some beautification
back into their property and allow for a
a nice tree lining um fence as you will
but I'll let uh I'll let Mike speak to
this a little bit further because um I
think it's important to know who has
already approved this and uh the process
that has happened prior to this
ordinance yeah thanks Jess um just to
clarify is part of this construction we
haven't necessarily uh they haven't lost
any of the uh plantings that really
Shield them from the Jeffrey property
this is an addition to existing
plantings but um uh the plan that they
have proposed for landscape improvements
on what is essentially the U northeast
corner up on the hill
um have been reviewed by both the tree
commission and the recreation board and
they have approved them there were some
modifications that were requested I
think by both uh groups that they um
adjusted to um and it does does not have
any impact on our programmable space it
essentially will operate as an extension
of the Woodland area it'll create more
Four Season um planting material that
will will provide more
um visibility
uh issues it'll drive more visibility
issues for the area between our two
properties they've done a lot of
improvements in the back of their
property as a result uh there's more
visibility into the back of our property
and um they've asked for this approval
uh and there isn't really a negative
impact on our end from our
perspective um and I do believe Mike did
you touch upon it this is they are
taking care of this
financially yes uh so all the costs
incurred as a part of this will be at
the expense of the uh property owner as
well as the upkeep and maintenance they
also understood that um you know it is
it is on our property we have ownership
of it uh we have the right to make
decisions about what to do with it in
the future um they have you know from a
timing standpoint I have asked Jess to
consider it a suspention and adoption
based on material that they already have
on site they would like to get uh put in
as quickly as possible assuming there is
an approval um uh but yes all the
expenses are out there at the property
owner's cost
all right so um sorry there was a little
bit of confusion about signing things
but here here at at Council so um I it
looks like there's someone who has their
hand raised um uh from and it's Mr
sh and Mike I I'm correct that was
reviewed by the tree and public garden
commission and
approved
correct thank
you Richard I asked Mike that because I
was channeling my inner Richard and I I
already had asked Mike
that trained me well nice job
Jessica all right does anybody have any
questions on
this and and and does anybody have any
questions in attendance because this is
a suspend and adopt and I'm we're gonna
Jessica's gonna move it walk us through
this one I just want to real quickly
point out I think you guys all know this
this is a this is a great Improvement
and uh I I understand the property owner
in question is doing this uh to improve
their property but I think it also
offers an improvement to our property so
I'm grateful for that
okay with that I would ask uh Jessica uh
jev um would would you please make a
motion um to
suspend the uh three reading requirement
for this uh ordinance please this uh is
it an ordinance resolution ordinance
help me guys ordinance 51 ordinance
sorry yes I would like to make a motion
to suspend ordinance
5120 okay so we're gonna suspend the
three- reading requirement for that
thank you Jessica is there a second to
suspend the three reading requirement Mr
Sheriff was second thank you um is there
anybody in attendance who have any
questions about that
suspension comments or questions from
Council
okay Mr auditor on the susp yes Mr
Kingler yes Mr Sharp yes Miss F yes Miss
Robinson yes Miss sad yes Mr Markham yes
pass all right thank you um now um Miss
sod uh do you have would you please make
a motion to approve I would like to make
a motion on ordinance
5120 um to adopt this
thank you Miss sod um is there a second
Mr Kingler will second thank you Mr
Kingler any questions about adoption of
this from the
attendees from the
panelists MR auditor Mr Markham yes Miss
Lamy yes Miss Robinson yes Mr Sharp yes
Mr Kingler yes Miss sad yes Miss fible
yes motion passes
all right guys we're here most wonderful
time of the year yeah I know can't wait
not only do we have budget but we have a
CO budget so let's do this guys let's do
it we can do it this is the first budget
that has been presented in the city of
Bexley during a pandemic in 100 years
wow impressive we all make history so
many it maybe it might be 102 years by
now you're right um all right ordinance
52 -20 to authorize Appropriations for
the calendar year beginning January 1st
2021 to confirm the appointment of Mark
fishell a City attorney and to authorize
a 2020 transfer from the general fund to
the Capital Improvements fund of
$200,000 Mr Markham but that $200,000 is
not being transferred to Mark fishal
let's be clear about
that that would barely touch the
surface hey I'm going to turn this over
to uh mayor Kesler and uh I know he has
two presenters as well I do want to um
bring up one thing about the budget
since uh loran did uh I believe luran
said this is our first Co Zoom budget
and uh I I hesitate to bring this up in
an environmentally friendly uh
environment that that we have and we're
fostering and don't tell Elizabeth Elman
I suggested this but um I would like to
Pro uh throw out the option um if City
Council Members would like to get a
printed copy of these budgets um I think
um that should be an option and and I
would definitely I would be volunteer to
uh drop those off uh if necessary but I
know that there's a lot on the budget
and and I tend to scribble and write and
and and things like that and if that's
something that people would like to have
would need to have um I would throw that
out there as a as an option I can't do
it without it you're right Troy this is
what I Year Mr Mr marham you can save a
tree for me I will just print from my
own download the copies that I
need all righty we'd be happy to
facilitate that just let me know um Mr
Mar would you like me to get going
please I answered for you Mr Markham um
I Okay so
we talked through the kind of high Lev
general fund summary at our last meeting
and uh not a whole lot has changed well
some things have changed but I'm not
really going to focus on the changes
since we didn't really get into the the
weeds uh during that meeting what I
going to focus on before asking the
chief to to make his presentation he's
our first presenter is uh what will
definitely be changing between now and
next week um and that is a couple couple
different departments that have not yet
uh finalize their budgets um uh that
includes U many of the Departments
directly overseen by me as I've been
working with directors and uh and and
making sure that we're lined up in some
of the more complicated budgets uh and
also pretty importantly the capital fund
that shows up in the final pages of this
budget is last year's capital budget so
you'll see that please ignore it um what
I am going to do is I as I expressed
last time is we're going to
unappropriate any Capital budgets
appropriated currently that will free up
money in the capital fund and we'll be
um we'll be presenting a capital budget
for 2021 but will essentially be a
remixed 2020 capital budget without a
whole lot of additional appropriation in
this budget so um you will see that we
are projecting a 5% income tax loss
you'll see many departments where there
are uh uh lowering expenditures despite
uh you know having some Personnel costs
going up so that's something we've
worked hard on and I'm proud of this is
a budget that sees a lot of cuts uh
throughout um many of those are just
realized through uh keeping our
operating expenses that are controllable
static um and uh you know just every
everywhere where we can trying to make
the most of the dollars that we have
available to us uh taking that
conservative tact not really not knowing
for sure what our Revenue stream is
going to look like next year we've also
benefited from car's act funds uh those
are starting to show up in some of our
our budget reconciliations for end of
year they're not totally metricated
through the whole budget yet so we'll
continue to see that in future draft
versions where cares act money has been
reimbursing us for expenditures to date
and will show us with some uh positivity
on our bottom line to that point uh the
budget ordinance itself mentions a
$200,000 Capital fund
transfer in 2020 and so the point of
that is to take um we've we've saved
money this year by not spending it we've
saved money this year by our hiring
frees and we have done okay with our
income tax and so one of the things that
this budget ordinance anticipates is
socking away some of that excess that we
have from this year in order to fund uh
future Capital Improvements so those are
just some overarching comments um we're
going to be having present presentations
today by the chief of police and then by
Mike Price the chief's budget should be
fairly quick he's going to focus on his
operating expense side his capital
budget will be presented at a later
date um so Mike's will be a little bit
more lengthy and then if you guys have
any overarching questions first of
questions for those presentations
obviously get taken at that time and
then after that if you have overarching
questions in the budget we will go
through those at that time so without
any further delay Del we're going to
start with the chief that's on page 15
if you look at the little footer on the
bottom of your budget uh look for
15 you'll see me squinting here because
I have I
over I uh left my glasses somewhere
don't know where but uh no I'm thanks
thanks
Mark so Chief are you still with us yes
sir thank you for sticking around I know
this has not been a friendly timeline
for you
I'll call you about 4:30 tomorrow
morning when I get to my desk and tell
you how I'm feeling please uh call Lan I
appreciate that yes sir the uh the part
of the the part of the budget that we
put together starts with the other
expenditures which is the second half of
the page I'm very thankful for beer he
does all the heavy lifting of uh wages
and all those things above other
expenditures that are very very
technical I again I'm very appreciative
that he does all that but starting at
other expenditures you'll see that we've
uh one of the few increases we had to
have this year was the leads the
contract uh price that they set we don't
have any control over that and it went
up a little bit uh up to
797 again we have no control over that
we're for
subscribers but but working down from
there you'll see the only other change
is in utilities and building maintenance
and we feel pretty comfortable we're
able to trim just a little bit from that
maybe to offset some of the uh some of
the increase in leads other than that uh
we have remained
flat in in the line items that you can
see there
uh transfer to police pension again
that's something that beer does for me
and uh again I'm very appreciative of
that but that's the budget it's a it's a
pretty basic uh as you well know the
majority of our budget is is payroll
which is the the top half but the bottom
half are the things we buy ink pens and
bullets and all those other things with
uh what questions can I
answer Chief um so the patrol equipment
and um the repair uh
maintenance uh looks like we're year to
date we're really low are we going to
get to the budget are we going to get
are we going to
spend uh
one go ahead I I see what you mean ma'am
yeah it always looks that way and I and
I assure you there are a lot of a lot of
those things are in the pipeline that
number will look quite a bit different
uh as we get really close to the end of
the year I don't know if we'll spend it
all maybe not but we'll spend a big
portion of
it okay and Mr official will you remind
me the transfer to the police pension
that is that
contractual well it's it's not
contractual well no it's just uh there's
there's separate uh that's just a
separate payment that goes to the police
pension fund does it's part it's related
to their salary though right right right
so it just is it just is it just is
actually a
tax I think it I think you're right
about that there's a line item in in our
text so the the if if you were to turn
to page 51 on your PDF or scroll down
you would see the police pension fund
you would see that there's a
$530,000 line item
uh from property tax
revenue and that the pension fund is
currently uh an expense of 735,000
roughly so it requires a subsidy from
the general fund one thing be and I
discussed is that we are carrying a
balance in that fund of 246,000 if we
wished to we could bring that number
down uh
temporarily um and that's you know
something we certainly we could do so
that that's doesn't show an increase
this year you know eventually we'll have
to continue to build up the fund but uh
it's carrying a little bit more of a
balance than it needs to all right looks
like um Jen Robinson has her hand up
Jen there we go um a quick question for
you Chief Reinhardt um can you just I'm
curious what all falls under Patrol
equipment um I see there's a a notation
if my glasses I really need new ones um
that you're replacing vests but what
what what all is if you could just
briefly um you know just describe what
what what Things fall under that
category a lot of items in fact I I will
email you this uh print out I have the
mar that breaks down operating expenses
operating supplies and Patrol equipment
but for instance
is initial issue for new officers and
we've got one coming out of the academy
uh those are a lot of equipment a lot of
items that officer needs badges new and
placement and refinishing of badges
Firearms ammo that are and a lot of
non-training related stuff body armor as
you said uh speed plates bike Patrol
equipment motorcycle unit equipment uh
and different Awards and ribbons items
and that's just uh that's not all
inclusive but that's just a sampling of
some of the things that come out of that
Patrol equipment great thank you I
appreciate
that and uh Council we'll get the the
account notes over here
did used to be populated for the police
budget in years past so we'll get those
moved over they they are fairly static
from year to
year all right uh looks like we have
another hand um and it is Jessica sod's
hand is sad yes Le Chief um quick
question just a overview of overtime and
have has that been affected this year
with I'm assuming
so uh we saved a little bit on overtime
because we didn't have some of the
bigger operations but then we did some
other things to accommodate accommodate
graduations and such that that used
overtime dollars we've uh this year
we're just coming out of a period where
we had five people off for different
medical reasons uh that forces us to use
a lot of overtime just to to have our
minimum Staffing on the street uh so
we've saved some we've spent more it may
it may actually be a wash uh for us I'm
not sure but I think it may be a wash
for
us thanks Jess um looks like uh Miss
lampy has a question
Monique um Chief I had kind of a a
follow-up question to what Miss just
asked with covid still anticipated to be
an effect at least for part of
2021 is there an opportunity to save
some money on training cost if some of
that c training is offered virtually as
opposed to in person I'm not talking
about physical training because I
understand your officers would have to
be there in person to get the full
benefit of that training but um are
there other trainings that can be
offered online or virtually that might
save the city some money well we've
taken advantage of a lot of online
training more this year than ever before
and we'll continue to do a lot of that
but but as you said and as you well know
we still send officers uh to a variety
of different types training uh that's
kind of our Bedrock uh and uh I I'm
always I'm always very careful to not to
not skimp on on some of the training
that our officers need uh and we're
looking at some different things we're
looking at some different group type
training where we can bring people to
the building and train small groups that
are socially distanced uh so so I don't
know I don't know right off the top of
my head
I don't think I'm I haven't been
thinking about any ways to save large
numbers of training dollars if that's
what you're
asking okay thank you thanks
Monique any other questions for the
chief all right can we move
on yes Chief thank you so much for uh
hanging hanging with us a little bit
longer this evening uh it is appreciated
please make sure you go back and tell
those officers thank you thank you thank
you and uh remember give Lori a call
tomorrow morning 4:30 we'll do we'll do
her and I'll have coffee before I know
where she lives I've got mine I've got
mine
ready all right thanks good care of
yourself sir thank you so very much you
do the same man' thank you Mr Price you
are up to bat um Council attached to
your agenda are the same pages in our
budget but Mike has kindly bundled them
into one document so that we're not
skipping around quite as much Mike I'll
scroll as you talk all right thank you
mayor I'd like to also Echo what the
chief said and thank beer uh for all of
his time and effort and his assistance
in this process he's it's been very
valuable and we do appreciate it um my
budget we'll we'll kind of go through it
but it is um you know it's it's been a
very difficult process because as we
think about our budget we have to think
about uh the revenue new offset and what
programs look like with covid-19 uh and
so as we talk about it I'll talk about
some assumptions that we've made um
trying to give a best guess best
estimate at how covid-19 will impact us
throughout
2021 I would I would say uh to council
have had these conversations with the
mayor uh and we'll have this
conversation with the rec board tomorrow
um that uh again these are our best
guests our best estimates
um but we need to be well need to be
willing and able to be flexible as I I
fully expect this will change as we
adapt to how covid-19 affects us in
2021 um but here are some uh General
assumptions made in the development of
the of the budget um we are assuming uh
that um covid-19 will affect us through
May of 2021 similar to as it is now uh
the impact for that is an assumption of
a 60% reduction in Revenue uh we take
one step back you know I've got a number
of different um budget items uh some are
general fund some have their own funds
the rec fund and the pool fund most of
this is more impactful on uh non-general
fund uh items uh the rec fund and the
pool fund much of our general fund items
will be pretty much the same because
there's not a necessary Revenue offset
there's not a program specific offset in
most of those cases um but with the
general 60% reduction in Revenue uh
through May uh from a June to August we
are assuming uh that although covid-19
there will still be an impact of
covid-19 but that we will be able to
operate our programming much like we did
before covid-19 in terms of which
programs we can offer obviously there'll
be safety measures in place that will
vary um but that our impact will be more
along the lines of people uh still
hesitant to
participate uh more so than our
inability to be actually be able to
offer those programs so from June to
August program Revenue that we generate
usually from June to August we made an
assumption of a 30% reduction in revenue
and participation ultimately uh and then
we looked at from September uh through
the end of the year uh and the
assumption that we made there is that we
will essentially be back uh you know uh
to prepandemic levels in terms of the
types of programming that we can offer
and uh the registration and revenue that
we see
from participants again I don't want to
imply that there won't be a lot of still
covid-19 safety measures that we expect
to still have to uh think about and work
through uh but that our participation
our programming offerings will generally
be able to be back to where they were uh
preco level uh starting in September of
next year um mayor if you don't mind
scrolling down on that um some uh new
Jeffrey Mansion Revenue assumptions that
I I want to uh touch base on um built
into this budget is the programming and
revenue potential for the new program
and event space at Jeffrey Mansion uh
there's some things to take into
consideration uh related to both the
construction timeline as well as covid
um uh When developing the Jeffrey
Mansion project budget we estimated new
program Revenue in the new space at
about
124,000 uh this draft budget reflects a
50% reduction in that Revenue uh due to
covid as well as due to the fact that
the the full space will not be usable
until February March so we'll lose a
couple months in there um keep in mind
there is some offset in all these cases
there is offset if we're if we're
expecting a reduction in Revenue we also
would have a reduction in expenses so
there is some offset all the way around
on that uh when When developing the JM
project budget we estimated new rental
revenue and Jeffrey Mansion to be to
Total
$191,000 uh we have reduced that number
as a result of covid-19
uh and the fact that we have held off on
Jeffrey mansion rentals until after
March uh so we've reduced that by
roughly
30% um currently just to give uh Council
just uh some numbers on what's going on
with Jeffrey Mansion rental to date uh
this is for 2021 rentals obviously we
rent stuff about a year out in
advance um we have had uh three Al three
non-alcohol and four alcohol rentals
that are set for 2021 in the Jeffrey
house which is the original space in the
new space which we are referring to as
the Carriage Court we have zero
non-alcohol events and we have 12
alcohol events booked for next year um
in 2021 we have a maximum of 18 alcohol
events in the news space uh based on the
two alcohol events per month restriction
in the alcohol
framework um and also considering that
we will not have bookings uh in in the
building from January through March
currently uh May July August September
and October have uh maxed out on alcohol
events in the Carriage Court uh to date
we have turned away about three events
due to that Max so we're tracking that
just so we have an idea what that data
looks like uh moving forward
additionally we don't have any rentals
in December yet because we don't book
more than a year
out um current bookings are based on
covid-19 guidelines and dram drastically
limited our Max Capacity for each space
so right now when we take a booking we
are conveying that uh our Max is much
smaller to allow for the spacing
requirements for Co events in the spa in
the building uh so Jeffrey house which
would normally be at 112 uh We are
booking at a Max of 64 Carriage Court uh
normally 175 we're booking at a Max of
96 ultimately that has an impact on you
know who uh might want to use the space
if they want to have a bigger event uh
they're not going to be able to right
now with Co so that that has some imp on
our uh number of
bookings any questions on that I know
the Mansion might be something that
everyone's a little bit interested in
seeing how that's going to affect this
um the the pool uh the budget reflects a
very similar budget uh to the 2020
budget okay so when we go through our uh
expense side of the pool you will see a
very similar expenses to what we had
Michael yes I can I interrupt you just
before you get way into the pool because
at looks like um Mr Markham has his hand
up and I fear he probably has something
he wants to talk about from before
please if you don't mind I'm sorry you
know not a big question I I'm a little
curious as to your your numbers for the
uh events I it you you're not maxed out
for June it feels like that would be
your biggest month I'm just
curious I think we have one in June we
get one more will be maxed out but uh
fall is usually a little bigger than
than the middle of the summer
usually spring and fall are a little bit
a little bit
bigger Jessica has her hand up and then
Mr Kingler uh Miss sad yeah Mike remind
me with the two per month in the
Carriage House events was that due to um
remind me about why we were limited to
that I think I know why but I could use
a
refresher yeah so uh when we went
through the process with the Mansion
there was a uh committee put together to
review um
to
review the master planning of the space
and one of the things that they
requested was a um some limitation on
rentals on the front end uh and one of
those was to limit alcohol events
to uh I think their originally they want
to limit it to one a month I think uh
Council moved that to two if I remember
correctly um but ultimately uh Council
passed a framework for our uh that
allows us to have alcohol at at Jeffrey
Mansion for fence and within that
framework there are limitations uh
whether it's having a police requiring a
police officer in this case the new
space will require two police officers
there's a number of different things in
there uh but one of them one of the
restrictions uh with the new space is a
Max of two events um per month um with
alcohol but without alcohol we can have
more in that space and right now we
don't have any events booked non-alcohol
correct yeah and that's an interesting
observ ation that we're looking at um
you know I think our our estimates early
on indicated that we would still do some
non-alcohol bookings in the new space um
and we're really early in the process
and Co it's really sort of it's tough to
really extrapolate out a lot of uh
patterns from this very early portion of
the process but I do think that that's
something to keep an eye on as to
whether or not the price point of the
Carriage Court um uh might turn some
people away who um don't want to have
alcohol and therefore maybe are not
planning on spending nearly as much on
their event uh and so that price point
might have some impact that's something
that we're going to definitely keep an
eye on can you give me um just a quick
um recap on what that price is to rent
that and um yeah and yeah yeah and it's
3500 uh on Saturday it's a little bit
cheaper I think it's 3,000 on Friday on
the Carriage Court uh it's 1500 on the
uh Jeffrey house roughly and there's a
little bit of play based on the days and
times but and the city doesn't make the
majority of their money off the rental
do is that where the money yeah yeah the
majority is off the rental um we do have
a uh a charge to the preferred Caterers
and there's a minimum on that uh we'll
see what that is what that ends up being
um I think our minimum is 300 it's
either 200 or 300 I think in most cases
it'll be well above that minimum um uh
historically events that we've seen uh
in the Jeffrey house you know again with
with a you know roughly 60% of the
capacity of the Carriage Court and this
is you know it's a numbers issue for the
the Caterers the more plates they're
serving the higher that goes because
it's a percentage of their bill
essentially um I would expect in most
cases that to be closer to 700 to a
th000 in the new space um but that'll
that remains to be
seen
thanks great question Jessica um Matt we
lost your hand does that mean that your
an your question was answered yep
awesome Mike you want to go ahead and
continue with the pool now thank you
sure um 2020 budget with a um is like I
said it's very similar to the 20 the
2021 budget is very similar to 2020
budget the only real increase is going
to be there's a minimum wage increase uh
you'll see kind of throughout this
that's it's going up in
2021 uh so that has some impact um I
will say we are also uh looking at the
potential to hire a pool management
company to run the facility for
2021 um so we have are in the process
right now of putting together an RFP
which Mar FAL has reviewed our board
will review it the rec will review it
tomorrow um which we will then go out to
uh solicit firm to give us pricing on on
running and managing the pool facility
for us um there's a lot of reasons to
look at that uh going through this
process will not uh require us to move
in that direction uh but it gets us more
information and and gives us another
opportunity another way to look at uh
managing the facility um if that happens
if if uh we get these uh quotes in or
these uh proposals in and we make the
determination that it is in the best
interest to move in that direction uh
that will completely change the pool
budget uh so I just want to make sure
that you know the council's aware of
that um from a timeline I don't think
we'll know that until either late
December or early January before
probably this budget is passed so that's
something else that could drastically
flip what's going on in the uh pool
budget so I just want to give everyone a
heads up on that any questions there
yeah Mr Markham has his hand in the air
uh Mr
Markham uh yeah so Mike that's kind of
vague uh I'm just curious uh what
prompted you to uh to take a look at
third-party vendor and when you say um
drastically alter the pool budget how do
you anticipate that altering the pool
budget two good questions thank you um
there's a couple things um you know the
difficulty we've been dealing with with
Staffing over the last handful of years
has been something that that's
encouraged us to at least look at what
that you know this sort of model might
might work out to be um we have also um
separated with our pool manager on that
facility that's been with us for about
14 years so that's another reason to
open up uh and take a look at what those
options might be from a management
standpoint
um uh when we talk talk about you know
this is this is also a model that a lot
of other Rec departments not a lot but
other Rec departments have have moved to
and are having more discussion about so
we're not unique in that Grand View is
one for example that utilizes a third
party U management company um and it is
growing there's frankly I think right
now we're looking at basically only two
in central Ohio there's only one till of
re till recently so there is some um
more competition in that market that
will be helpful in that uh so those are
some of the reasons we're looking at it
uh when I say it would drastically
change the budget I I My Hope Is that
wouldn't have a drastic change otherwise
we probably wouldn't be recommending it
depending on what these proposal look
like from a bottom line standpoint but
instead of having a pool budget that has
you know 20 1520 line items uh we would
really just be looking at a a you know a
contracted rate for a third party vendor
uh now they will give us a menu of
different pricings for how they got to
that but ultimately from a contractual
ual standpoint we be looking at
basically one number maybe some
additional money set aside if we have an
additional event that we add on that's
an additional cost so but it'll be much
more streamlined from a a budget
perspective you know so I have a
follow-up question about the pool uh
because certainly you know that was a
bummer for the community to not have
that asset this summer um and certainly
there's a loss of Revenue with the pool
but the pool is also very costly to run
I know what was the overall Financial
impact of not uh having a program there
at the pool yeah the
overall
um the overall Financial impact from a
operational standpoint is was about um
$130,000
loss um was roughly what that what that
uh equated to so um
some of that is we have full-time staff
that uh exist whether we're opening the
pool or not and those costs we continue
to incur obviously we don't have a lot
of seasonal staff some of that is
expenses that we incurred on the front
end some purchases that we made supplies
equipment some different things that we
already incurred before we realized we
weren't going to run the pool facility
um generally speaking just you know so
that council's aware of of of recent
note we're generally operating uh pretty
flat in terms of Revenue and costs
um we're we're basically treading water
on covering costs we have built up a
pool fund uh you know which was in 2019
at the end of 2019 actual numbers were
about
$417,000 uh this will obviously eat into
that and um the trend is we're basically
right on that on a good year we're not
dealing with Co we're sort of right at
that sort of C cing of our costs um so
this will have an impact on that I do
think I think we've talked about this
before uh that in the near future we'll
probably have to start looking at
whether or not uh there needs to be a uh
a transfer of funds from the general
fund uh to offset po operations I don't
think that's going to happen in the next
two or three years but I do think the
next five to 10 years that's probably
something that we'll have to keep a
close eye
on thank you Mike uh that's uh OB
kind of a bummer but it's also awesome
that you were able to use the word
treading water when talking about I
noticed that also well played um Mike so
this company it would do everything from
from hire to take care of the the pumps
and the the water and the the um the
concessions and uniforms and everything
so we will get pricing that will allow
them to do everything uh I will'll have
a menu of things there there will be
certain things that we we we'll want
pricing on to know what we're talking
about but I'm not sure we'll want to
move in that direction uh concession
might be one of those for example um but
yes we'll get pricing on running our
swim lessons programming uh we'll get
pricing on uh you know the expectation
is that this uh thirdparty vendor would
open and close the facility which
obviously has a positive impact on our U
maintenance demand um we spend a lot of
hours Andy uh basore and his staff come
over and spend a lot of hours uh so
those will be some things that will also
be built into it uh there obviously they
will have efficiencies that we won't
have as a larger company they'll have
some efficiencies in purchasing in terms
of chemicals and things of that nature
um they will have some probably some
efficiencies in terms of Staffing and
training that we might not have because
they'll do it at a much bigger scale um
so those are areas we think there could
be positives um you know I you know
we'll be a little bit we'll want to know
a lot about you know how the the
Community Field might be impacted by a
thirdparty vendor and make sure it's not
adversely impacted um but we'll have a
menu of items that we can decide what
makes sense for us and what doesn't make
sense for us ultimately they do not they
they generally would not have a lot of
uh involvement in the revenue side um in
terms of what we're going to charge they
would have no involvement what we're
going to charge for memberships and
those sort of things or how we want to
structure our uh swim lessons or swim
teams what we want to CH you know what
the pricing model might look like uh but
they'll they'll run it and you know
we'll incur the costs associated with it
but we will manage all the revenue
side thanks Mike it looks like Jessica
has a question
Jess yeah um Mike are the lifeguards
going to be outsourced or is that still
Community um
hired yeah so I if we went in that
direction direction the the lifeguards
would be out s they'd be managed by this
third- party vendor however what would
happen as part of that and we've already
had conversation we've had informal
meetings I will say with um potential um
um firms is that oftentimes we make
recommendations of our guards uh we also
recommend and encourage Staffing of um
residents as part of that process all
all the things being considered so uh
yes they would manage them they would
oversee them we would have some
involvement in that and it would be a
effort to make sure that we you know I
think a big part of what we do as a Rec
Department is provide job opportunities
for our our our uh young adults um in
our community and that's something that
we would continue to make sure is a part
of of this process right and when um Mr
Markham when he was speaking to
community in the pool that's such a as
you know Mike it's such a big part of
the community to see someone you knew at
eight and then all of a sudden they're a
lifeguard at 16
and they used to babysit your kid and
then they're doing the swim lessons it's
a neat part of the community and with
Joan not being at the front desk anymore
which we both know is also a neat part
of the community of all those years she
knows every family member who walks
through that's a really special thing so
I know you'll do a great job of making
sure we maintain that Community feel um
even with a third party vendor so thanks
for already having answers to all of
that is there is there is in this at all
in our um
budget for the pool are we looking at
replacing the flooring at all the parts
of the pool that flooring that's coming
up that was
replaced uh it was replaced going into
this year so it's already been replaced
awesome yeah looks great for empty pool
I interr yes Mr Mr Mayor would like to
uh interrupt I just want to be have
Council be conscious of of something and
the community anyone listening we are
not discussing tonight moving to a man
company there's so much left to talk
about with that so many unanswered
questions when if if if we get to that
point we'll come to you with the
presentation this budget does not assume
that so I want to make that Crystal
Clear secondly Mike has a lot to get
through tonight and if it's okay if we
go to the budget itself and go through
that um I think it well you'll have a
lot of questions that would come right
from those budget Pages um as a
suggestion there all right
have at it Michael all right next page
which is uh seniors it's page 13 in your
book but we can follow along on here um
uh there is not a lot of changes the two
things I would highlight is our senior
center due diligence uh we have zeroed
that out uh from 2020 we will be
carrying that money over that's a
one-time that's intended to be a onetime
expense it'll be a carry over from
2020 uh that also the uh Social Service
Navigator pilot program uh we've got
into it like a couple weeks when Co hit
we have not really incurred basically
any cost that has not been running
during Co that is an in-person uh
program to provide uh Social Services to
the community uh the hope is that we can
do it in some sem semblance in 2021
we've cut that that cost in half
assuming that we're gonna like I said
we're gonna be dealing with covid some
of those limitations through the first
part of the year at the very least so we
do want to uh give that uh program a a a
a full effort uh to work and and to
evaluate its success uh so we've cut
that down in half uh assuming it's going
to be sort of a halfe program um
otherwise that the reduction in salary
wages uh we had a retirement a rehire at
a less cost plus there was some overlap
of training that was built in 2020 that
will not be there in 2021 any questions
on
seniors all right next
next uh page Jeffrey Mansion um there
really is not much going on here uh we
also had a retirement there which is
part of the reduction in salary wages
budget um what I will point out is the
increases that you will see are
associated with maintaining a facility
that has about 40% more uh usable space
as a result of the new um of of the
managing project so basically across
there you will see a 40% in increase
utilities we expect to go up contracts
for maintenance will expect to go up uh
lead paint monitoring will not that is
specifically associated with preschool
and um the preschool classrooms and
their footprint is not going to be any
different as a result of the Manion
expansion um but otherwise operating
cleaning supplies repair
maintenance uh those will all uh see an
increase uh I I would note at the bottom
uh the increase of roughly what is
$26,000 is in line with estimated
28,900 when we went through the Mansion
evaluation uh for the project so we
estimated as we looked at the net gen
revenue for the project we estimated
about
28,900 um in new maintenance costs as a
result of the new
space any
questions yeah Mike yes just um a couple
things how's the overall infrastructure
of the Mansion I know you mentioned
before the construction project like the
cooling tower was was um getting pretty
old is there any other items that didn't
get addressed
on the construction project that you may
need you may need to be leery of for the
Jeffrey Mansion expenditure yeah there
are a couple things that we actually
have that will be carryovers that we're
working on we have some leaking issues
with the roof that we were're working on
addressing I don't think it needs to be
addressed in this budget because we have
some ter of money that we're going to
use for that um the individual hbac
units in some of the rooms um will you
know will start to see the back end of
their life expectancy so I do think over
the next five years we'll have some
individual units that will have to get
into place um but otherwise I think
we're doing okay um the cooling tower is
something that we're we're looking at
right now I don't really have anything I
to report on it right now but we are
looking at whether we can uh facilitate
a new cooling tower we probably have
another uh five or six years on the
existing cooling tower so it's not
something that's immediate but it's
something that we're looking at
um potentially making some improvements
on
thanks any other question on
Mansion all right
park uh um we're looking at basically
the same exact levels in uh Park all the
way across the board uh any increases on
salary wages are due to increases in um
contractual increases in Pay uh there
are no new positions um the other
expenditures is completely flat so there
are no new expenses uh in
Parts any questions
there all right Rec fund uh where get
a little bit
uh crazy so to speak
um uh if you if you look on the right
side and this is probably mayor I think
we're trying to make this a little
easier to read but it might be a little
more difficult to read on the on the
screen uh there are some notes uh that
we'll track down below um again on on
Recreation programs notes for a again
we're assuming 60% reduction in Revenue
through May 30% reduction uh June
through August and zero reduction uh for
the end of the year uh that came out to
about
322,000 um Jeffrey Mansion facility
again we kind of talked about that why
we're estimating 140,000 Jeffrey summer
camp is a 30% reduction uh from what uh
we would otherwise anticipate uh the
preschool um the preschool does not is
is is a little more difficult because
because we have half of the preschool
year is in the current school year in
the spring uh under you know a lot of
covid restrictions and the other half is
in the fall um the other thing in
preschool uh that you'll see some
additional expenses is we are going to
start our goal uh the new mansion
project allows us to do this is to start
our preschool in line with when school
starts usually in mid August as opposed
to after Labor Day uh we can't currently
do that in our current setting because
of the the summer camp and we can't flip
the preschool into preschool mode
because Camp runs right up until that
time and it takes a while to to shift
over because of our additional space
we'll be able to ship preschool a little
bit earlier than normal and be able to
start earlier uh so there'll be an
offset on Revenue uh but there'll be an
additional expense on that um before and
after care same sort of thing we're
dealing with uh we're running Jeffrey
care essentially through the before and
after care budget uh we're hoping that
before and after care will be back up
and operational as we know it in the
fall um if you scroll down uh the mayor
has alluded this a little bit looking at
2020 um in the middle there you have
240,000 and
420,000 um so I I I gave each updated
Revenue numbers we have a updated
revenue of 670,000 for the year which um
uh our budgeted shoot I don't have our
budget in front of us but I think it was
closer to 100
or one 1.5 million uh 1.4 million 1.5
million um our expenditures you'll see
it says 1.7 million that's that's what
was budgeted uh if you scroll down you
will see a um estimated unspent
appropriation of 545,000 uh so obviously
as we're able we're not able to do as
much there's a lot of uh expenses we
didn't incur um what you'll see in the
middle is uh uh the 240,000 represents
the original uh transfer of I think
$90,000 plus the $150,000 additional
transfer that Council approved a month
or so ago
um feature could probably speak to this
the BWC he just told me apparently BWC
is giving a rebate and uh that affects
across the board uh the way it affects
the rec fund is to 16,000 great um and
car's act money um to the tune of
$420,000 uh those are offsets as we
reallocated staff uh expenses associated
with things that we had to purchase um
we are now seeing that that's been
calculated up to an estimated will
estimated to be
$420,000 through the end of the
year uh the impact of that is you know
you'll see a beginning fund balance of
323,000 that fund balance will move down
to about 200 estimated move down to
about
$246,000 uh looking into the next into
2021 um the estimates that we're going
to be working off of show a revenue
under expenditures of about
$56,000 um with a $90,000 transfer um we
will we will be able to cover that loss
however you know uh as we discussed with
the Mansion project we are now putting
debt Services into um the rec fund uh so
while our expectation was to be able to
cover debt services with the new revenue
from the Mansion prob will have an
impact on that we won't be able to we
don't expect to be able to do that in 20
uh 21 um so that's just sort of an
overview
of uh the finances of the rec fund uh
from a revenue side and expense side any
questions on
that is l has her hand in the air uh
Monique Mike thank you so much for the
the detailed um Revenue um big picture
here um I assume that folks in the rec
department are constantly looking for
maybe creative new programming ways
despite covid um I'm interested to know
if um if it's possible that at some
point we might be able to do things that
other Rec departments are doing whether
it's outside or um or online things that
could continue to uh bring in Revenue
but also be done safely I know you guys
are usually great at kind of uh trying
to be as creative as possible can you
speak to about it all sure um so
obviously we have continued to do
programming through Co um uh we've had
to drastically alter how those things
are done from a safety perspective we've
focused on everything being outside
outside of daycare that has to have an
indoor
component um uh so there are a number of
things we've done zoom zoom programming
you know that there is a fee for we've
done programming outside yoga things
that we would normally be doing outside
so that's been going on uh as we look
you know obviously the concern as we go
into winter months is it becomes even
more difficult as we think about our
effort to try to do as much stuff
outside we are evaluating doing indoor
stuff uh but only if it allows us to
socially distance at least six feet
while doing it inside and also we
understand that you know as we're seeing
a spike that there may be a mandate that
doesn't allow us to do any of that
inside in the future um we are looking
at a lot of different things uh some of
which is revenue generated some of which
is service focused uh we did a number of
outdoor events uh music and movie in the
meadow um we did three of those in in
the month basically October and and one
last week um we are looking at our tree
uh
um or tree lighting doing that
differently in terms of programming that
can generate and may generate Revenue
obviously we did Jeffrey care and we We
are continuing to do that um and we are
in talks with the schools and working
closely with their task force as they
are evaluating uh if there's going to be
a change in their service model from the
Hy the current hybrid of two days on two
days off and so we're we're trying to
keep a pulse on what that might look
like if that moves to a Fed day am day
PM which is one of the things that has
been discussed um uh we are looking at
moving our jeffre Care Program here
because it gives us a lot more
flexibility once the building is done it
also will reduce some of our costs uh we
also think we have the capacity to
expand it if they move to the amn uh we
are looking at um uh we are looking at
and have a grant right now with the
Community Foundation for an outdoor ice
Ram um and the potential to do
programming around that uh that could
potentially generate some Revenue um we
uh I feel pretty good about where that's
going to go uh whether this will be a a
not a controlled uh Ice uh temperature
so it'll be uh dependent on weather so
that'll you know that'll be a variable
that we'll work through but I think The
Upfront cost I'm really hopeful that
we're uh going to get some support from
the Community Foundation on The Upfront
cost on that uh we are looking at uh
again we we're focusing on outdoor
activities in the winter we are looking
at a ski club the potential for a ski
club um and doing ski trips we are also
looking at a paintball Club type of a
structure where we are uh uh having a
staff member there at one of the local
paintball facilities and allow parents
to drop off uh and um you know obviously
we can get discounts on rates when we we
doing um larger number numbers and some
different ways that we can benefit that
way so we are looking at all those
things uh Outdoors we are looking at our
indoor activities uh our yogas and some
of the things that we know we can do in
a social distance setting um and uh you
know even with all of that we're still
like I said we're still anticipating 60%
reduction in our revenue for those first
you know five months um but it's not
it's not a 100% reduction because of
some of those Concepts
wow super impressive thank you I think
perhaps that Michael should in um think
about including goats in the yoga and I
and Mr auditor suggested that we do a
team building um paintball uh Council
Retreat second Richard has his hand
up Mr okay yes Mike um in the
past towards the end end of each year
um fortunately the U final results of
the rec fund tends
to um be more positive than what is
budgeted during the year and I I'm
assuming that
130,000 in the estimated unspent
Appropriations would basically during by
the end of next year would kind of move
up into the um
the final number that you won't carry
those Appropriations forward to 2022 and
so that the revenue could potentially be
positive is that is that
correct so if I'm understand your
question correctly you're asking if that
130 unspent appropriation might go up
as might might be reflected farther up
in the financial statement through
actual reduce actual costs being lower
than
budgeted yeah so that number so here's
what I would say about that Richard that
number the 130,000 is the number that we
used last year as we this is a new uh
process in the budgeting um to put a you
know understanding that we know every
year we have an unspent appropriation
and we sort of looked at that to gauge
kind of historically what that number
would be now I will say uh
2021 our appropriated expenditures are
have been reduced to reflect a reduction
in Revenue so if what you're asking is
that because of covid we have less
activities those unspent Appropriations
will therefore go up I'm not sure that
would be the case no I'm I'm talking
about traditionally you budget an amount
for an expense but you don't actually
have to utilize it regardless of Co or
anything else normally in December your
final results end up to be a lot better
than what it might have looked in
September or
October okay so yeah from that
perspective here's what I would say is
uh we yes uh it is normally better than
expected that's the reason that number
is now being put in to have it more
accurately reflected so that number
accurately reflects what we might
anticipate in a normal year of uh
unspent Appropriations so three years
ago there would have been a zero there
it didn't exist as an item and it ended
up we ended up doing better to the tune
of say 130,000 now it's built in on the
front end so we know what we're dealing
with right so our if if if it turns out
to be positive our our ending fund
balance goes up um as a result the the
second question I had was the 545
from uh this I can't see the top I think
it's this year
um what is there any amount in that that
will really should be reflected as a
prior incumbrance or next year because
you got a zero there so I that un
unspent appropriation if there's
something that didn't get spent during
the year but you still plan to spend and
keep the PO open for in the following
year like major maintenance item that
you deferred or didn't get done in
time yeah I I don't honestly I don't
expect there to be that um okay I really
don't uh
we're um we don't have anything that I
think we're not going to be able to get
done that we need to get done um and I I
don't think it's necessary to carry it
over and frankly I think it cleans up
the budget a little bit if we don't have
to I I agree also but so I just wanted
to clarify that thank
you any other questions on the sum
page all right
um we'll go through these uh hopefully
fairly quickly um Rec admin there's
there's no changes to our staffing
levels although I I'll remind the uh
Council we have we are short one Rec
supervisor position we obviously haven't
filled it um we had somebody uh resign
from their position in I think it was
August uh no intention to fill it while
we don't have demand from a programming
side um My Hope Is You Know by the
middle of next year slth fall we'll be
looking to fill that based on uh
programming programming ramping up to to
pre-co levels
um you will see uh if you go down the
brochure there's a reduction there we're
only going to do two printed brochures
our our first brochure will be digital
still our January brochure which will be
coming out will be uh digital so there's
not a printing costs so that that's been
cut by a third we expect to move back to
uh normal printing on the second and
third when again when we think
programming is is is ramping back up we
have reduced our training professional
development um we uh are we have in we
had increased that over the last handful
of years to attend opr we're not
anticipating to attend opra as a as a
group uh in large part during due to
covid we do have one staff member that I
I want to still have go to opr to the
extent that they have it safety
perspective um but uh he has been
working uh on his um certified uh Rec
professional certificate Rec
professional certificate and has
acquired that and there's some um
continuing development that he needs to
do along those lines so we do did leave
some money in there for
that any questions on Rec
admin all right Rec programs wa wait
wait Mr Sharp do you have your hand in
the air or is it still in the air
okay
programs uh again we we've have a
reduction in salary and wages because of
a reduction in the amount of programming
that we're offering or will be offering
uh so that will have some impact there
um so you'll see throughout here
basically a 30% reduction for the most
part uh and again that reflects uh that
30% reduction um is in part because uh
some of it's on the front end some of
it's on the back end um so overall
there's 30% reduction that we're
expecting um the only items that really
don't have a reduction are Awards uh
we're still planning on doing a lot of
those programs we might have less
participants but there's still going to
be a first and a second so um we're
still want to make sure we're giving out
Awards I don't you know we we may end up
using that we may not but um otherwise
that's pretty much what's reflected in
here professionals is one uh that you
will not see a large reduction because
there's an offset there's a reduction in
programming over a typical year but
there will be an increase in programming
with a new mansion space so uh that sort
of washes it out um again Rec
professionals are instructors are our
expenses for instructors those are
completely offset by Revenue um but
there's a little formula as to rough
formula as to how we uh sort of got
there any questions
go ahead
Mike Jeffrey preschool again there's an
increase because we expect to well a
it's it's a little more expensive for us
to run uh in the spring with covid um
the the spring of 2021 because we'll
finish out the school year um and we are
also going to start a little bit earlier
in
um um in uh the fall uh so there's an
increase in siling wages the other stuff
is pretty flat there's going to be a
we're not doing some of the snacks for
Co reasons that we would have done or
some of those things that we would have
done in in the spring uh but we will
hopefully be doing that back in the fall
we're just gonna keep that flat and
don't see that being an
issue questions
there no hands Mike all right before and
after
care um again this first part of the
Year we're expecting to be running our
Jeffrey Care Program through here uh and
then we're hoping to be back to full
strength in the fall so we're accounting
for those as we we go through these
numbers um in terms of other
expenditures our Jeffrey care does not
have a lot of other expenditures it is
basically completely Staffing um because
they're there working on their
schoolwork um so uh we have a reduction
of 40% because we have basically none in
in May in January through may we have
none of those sort of other expenditures
that we're incurring as part of Jeffrey
care but we expect to incur them all in
uh August through December any questions
there all right Jeffrey
Camp we're assuming we're going to be
able to run Jeffrey Camp uh there will
I'm sure there will be modifications um
um but we are uh assuming that we will
have some people that don't want to take
part in it because they you know we have
people that participate in Jeffrey here
because they just enjoy it not because
they need the daycare and there there
may be some loss there uh and some
people that look at other ways of doing
it as they as they become a little more
comfortable or work towards becoming
more comfortable uh in in more of these
settings as hopefully we we move away
from the covid pandemic so we're again
again we're assuming a 30% reduction in
our participation uh our our sing wages
are uh not quite uh a direct cost
because we have full-time employees that
are in there regardless of what our
number of participants are but a large
chunk of our salary wages are
driven by a ratio of participants to
Staffing so that's why there's the
reduction there same with if we're going
to have less people we're going to have
to spend less on snacks Less on
equipment Less on shirts a lot of those
things uh so that's why a 30% reduction
on other
expenditures next swimming
pool um this is the uh fund balance you
will see um we had 4 $8,000 in Revenue
um but that was all offset by $48,000 in
refunds but it shows as a revenue it
hits as an expense uh under refunds um
so that was another big piece of the
126,000 Troy that you had asked about
earlier I don't think I mentioned that
at the time our costs of
126,000 48,000 that was offset by
Revenue so actually that cost was more
like 880,000
um um but that
as you will see that end fund balance of
269 is what we're anticipating going
into the 2021 year again we have
basically the same membership
expectations um we have um the
expenditures as we get to that will
basically be the same there are always
some Capital costs associated with new
chairs new umbrellas different things
that we have to
purchase um so we have a line item in
there for that uh and an ending fund
balance of 257 so in this scenario uh
we're were're expenses over Revenue by
about 11,000 so we continue to eat into
that a little bit uh you'll see 2019
actuals was 9,000 in the positive so
we're right on that sort of Break Even
Point give or take uh any questions on
that no hands Mike uh pool operation so
as we look at that on line basis uh
again it is
basically we have a slight increase in
saling wages because of minimum wage
otherwise it is flat on other
expenditures it reflects what we had
originally budgeted for
2020 and again this this page if we go a
different direction with thirdparty
vendor you know we would have to come
back to council and rediscussed for that
looks like so so I want to make sure
Council understands they have a lot of
obviously oversight on on any of those
sort of decisions
um pool concession next page is just uh
the exact same numbers as the
previous U could we get a couple more
pages can you just add
some yes working on
it wait thank you uh Mike that was a
fantastic job that's a whole lot to
cover and uh as always you are so
fantastically organized and and it's
clearly communicated are there any um
overarching questions for Mike uh from
Council after having gone through all
that actually Mike I would love to have
your assumptions can you that's on the
agenda oh is it on the agenda oh
fabulous awesome okay missed that great
fabulous Mike I just want to really um
thank you of I know that every single
one of the department
have been affected by this covid I I
know that you guys have had to be agile
and change um all that you do in every
way shape and form and um our gratitude
goes out to you and your and your team I
also know that you have a bunch of
budgets not because you know you want
them because you keep adding new things
on and new things on and and and we've
always been blessed with your creativity
and I want to make sure that you know um
how grateful we are and I want you to
feel appreciated and I want your
department to as well because we know
that this has required a lot of agility
a lot of flexibility a lot of creativity
so I know that all the members of
council echo my thoughts so thank you
thank you
thank you thank you president F I will
make sure to pass that along to the team
because it is as you mentioned a team
effort so thank you President fible also
wanted to commend Mike and his entire
department for constantly looking for
ways to support working parents here in
Bexley even am am covid uh with children
staying home and parents still having to
work um kudos to you Mike for always
trying to find ways to support uh those
working
parents thank you you thank you
m okay
um so uh for our our next uh budget
process that'll be next week we're gonna
have Andy uh bashore presenting on the
service department budget and I will be
going through a good chunk of uh my
departments uh to cover so you have that
to look forward to
um and we'll be getting a revised draft
out to you guys um in advance awesome
all right we will look forward to that
um with that Mr uh Markham with your
permission can we move on off of uh the
budget let's move all right thank you
sir then we have resolution
12-20 designating June 19th annually as
juneth in recognition of June 19
1865 the date on which slavery slavery
legally came to an end in the United
States Miss
Robinson hi guys it's me again um I
wanted to uh actually that's that was a
lot of budget kudos to Mike seriously I
I have to clear my head a little bit so
we can uh we can move on from numbers um
but as I mentioned earlier when we took
the original ordinance 3420 um off the
table um I want to thank all of the uh
members of the community in particular
one who may still be on the phone on
this call I'm not sure but uh the lovely
and wonderful Miss Mana Williams who has
been um walking with me the this entire
time as as this um ordinance became a
resolution and then
um um halted last week because of some
new information that we got and now is
being presented to you um and I want to
just address that while there were a lot
of people who supported the original
effort the the ordinance form there were
those who questioned if Now is really
the time despite all of our our really
um uh well stated and significant goals
to diversify our
Workforce if now was the time to go as
far as marking this day by a paid Hol
um so instead the conversations that I
had with um community members really led
to a resolution which would allow us to
recognize this day officially as a city
um and would allow um kind create a
space for a day of recognition and
education and affirmation really of the
contributions of uh and history and
experience of the African-American
Community uh both in our city and and
Beyond
I would also like to mention that um the
reason that this was not presented last
meeting two weeks ago um was because um
I was made aware of a Senate bill
co-sponsored and co-authored by um
Senator Hershel Craig and his office um
that would make juneth a paid vacation
for um state workers in Ohio and um I
wanted to reach out to him and did um
and there is a lot of interest in kind
of working in Synergy with with our city
um in order to recognize this day in a
really special way so I just want to put
that out there that um um Senator Craig
um is
um excited and um supportive of the um
the this resolution coming before um our
city so
um the mayor has the resolution up right
now um the recitals all remain the same
um from the original ordinance um what
has changed is that we are resolving to
recognize the day as opposed to
ordaining to give um our workers the day
off so any
questions
thoughts um I'm just really appreciative
to everybody who sat down and and really
entered into some honest conversations
about what this day could mean for our
city so just want to put that out
there thanks Jen for being flexible and
and changing and shifting gears um so
important that we all listen to our
citizens and it sounds like that's what
you made priorities so thank you so much
for doing that looks like Mr Sharp has
his hand in the air Mr Sharp yeah I
wanted to thank Jen for um ma making
this change I can fully support this um
resolution I think it's important to
recognize the day but I think it's
important to recognize it in a way that
that benefits the diverse members of the
community rather than
um the major the majority of the
community right now as far as with the
paid holiday off
um I think I personally thought it just
gave the wrong impression and so I'm
excited that that you um have this as a
resolution so that uh we can have staff
available to help out with any special
events and not incur um extra overtime
due to a holiday status so I appreciate
that thanks Richard thanks Richard
anybody else have anything to
add Thanks Jen so much all right with
your permission we're going to go ahead
and move on please thank you all right
so we are now on to resolution 13-20 to
establish the official meeting dates of
bexi city council for the 2021 calendar
year introduced by President fibel
really quick I want to thank Mo'Nique
for casting her putting her eyes on this
um she caught all kinds of stuff um same
with uh Bill Harvey he looked at it for
me also um doesn't mean that it's
perfect yet um I want youall just to
look at it I'm not going to take any
questions or unless you have some dying
changes you'd like to make this minute
what I really do want you to look at is
um like we are doing this November we're
having a meetings back to back um it
would be hard to have meetings back to
back like that unless we skip to the the
the week after Thanksgiving
um and then we would have potential we'd
definitely have three meetings back to
back potentially if we don't get through
the budget four meetings back toback so
get a calendar out take a look at that
and let's think about it I've missed
I've missed the eve of every um Jewish
holiday I've con I've um gone along all
of these I annotated this you guys have
seen it look at it I don't need to
discuss it right now it's a long night
so look at those and let's talk about
this a little bit more next next time
around does anybody have any questions
they're dying to ask right now Mr
Kingler is there gonna be a doodle sign
up for
this um there's not gonna be a doodle
sign up but thank you so much but mayor
Kesler do the doodle you are not the
last guy to do the doodle so thank you
doodle Mr sharp do you have a
question Mr
Sharp is what it is attached to the
agenda the correct
version
uh yeah should be okay do you have a
concern the so the dates of November 9th
and 23rd
are correct because those those aren't
back to back with December they are not
the 23rd though however is right on top
of uh Thanksgiving okay and what you're
saying now okay yeah and and and if
if so we have to make a choice do we
want to do things back to back like that
or do we want to uh so so I want you all
to look at your November calendars and
look at my annotations and and and think
about it okay all right all right
resolution 4 14-20 to urge governor
dwine and the Ohio legislature to extend
the deadline for operating public
meetings electronically also introduced
by Miss V president all right guys um
this just allows us to continue to do um
what we are doing um as far
as doing this virtually I think that
it's a smart move for all of us to have
the option that doesn't mean next week
we can't all vote to just come back in
and do our very best social distance but
I think um that it's a really great
option and I will also add that for this
to make any kind of sense and and um to
urge our governor to do this it would
require us to suspend this and and and
adopt it so wondering if anybody else
has any
um any thoughts just also a little more
background this this was something that
oml Ohio Municipal league and comma
Central Ohio manag Association is urging
uh its members to uh pass so this was
distributed around to different
communities and is being passed uh
throughout the region and
state any questions
Council okay I'm going to move to
suspend the three uh reading
requirements uh to this
resolution guys help me 1420
1420 um is there a second Madame
President Mr Sharp second set
thank you so much Mr Sharp uh any
questions from the attendees about the
suspension any from Council Mr auditor
Mr Kingler yes Mr Markham yes Miss
lamkey yes Miss
Robinson Miss
Robinson yes Mr Sharp yes Miss FIB yes
Miss sad yes
all right um the suspension passes and
so then I am going to go ahead and ask
that I I'm gonna go ahead and make a
motion to adopt resolution 1420 I'm
sorry thank you is there a second I'll
second was that you Jessica yes all
right there's a first and a second any
questions about adoptions from the
attendees any from Council
Mr auditor Mr Markham yes Mr Kingler yes
Miss FAL yes Miss
Robinson yes Miss
sad Miss
sad yes Mr Lamp Mr Sharp yes Miss lamkey
yes all right uh motion passes M Mr
dwine please listen to us that's not in
here so if you all right we're going to
move on then um and hopefully we can do
this pretty efficiently guys the night
is getting
late um Mr Sharp old business new
business or report from you sir um
couple reports a reminder about the
Historical Society um Camp Bushnell
Facebook live at 11
unveiling um the monument um spna was to
have their election um this past
November 4th I haven't heard the I
haven't seen the minutes for that but
from their October they were working
with Alana who's um a consultant of the
city and four residents on the Haven
Park refresh plan and where they're
proposing to um contribute three benches
to that
project and uh Tom James was nominated
to be treasur and Dave Green was
nominated to be
president um we had a meeting with the
mayor Troy and Elizabeth regarding um
the
esac um
Universal um Recycling and food waste uh
for possible ordinance introduction
sometime next year but to get a head
start on that and that's the end of my
report thank you so much um Richard for
keeping us prised of all that
information we appreciate it um finance
committee Troy I know that you have some
new business for us do you have any old
business and a report then after that I
guess it's sort of wrapped up in Old
business and new business uh to some
extent which is uh a few weeks back uh I
talked about uh the possibility of
updating uh Council salaries to bring
them in line with oers and I had uh uh
some information on that to share and
even prepared a uh ordinance for that um
after reflecting on it I I just felt
like this is maybe not the time to
introduce that uh we're going to the
budget
um we're talking about reductions uh are
all around so I just I'm not sure that
uh I felt very comfortable uh talking
about uh uh even a even a modest or
minimal increase in cancel salary at
this time so I did withdraw that Ord
uh there's also an ordinance for um
auditor to increase auditor salary um I
did also uh withdraw that this afternoon
but I want to give Bill Harvey a chance
I know I think he has a wants to make a
case for considering that and I think
it's worth uh listening to what he has
to
say um sure I
wasn't I think the salaries for the
auditor
is way less than it should be it's
hasn't been raised for 20 years
something needs to be done I think and I
think you need to have this fixed for
the next auditor comes in whoever that
is it doesn't happen till
2022 I think I told Troy it also we also
ought to consider the council members at
this time but that's the whole logic
behind it's been the the whole process
of passing an or passing a salary and
letting it go for 20 years makes no
sense and I think I ought to make it a a
a reasonable salary and put a process in
place so that it continues get to get
raise just like we do for the mayor and
any other employee so that's that's the
extent of
that Mr Sharp has his hand
raised and um as a side note for the new
council members uh Charter requires that
um any raises for elected officials be
in acted in the year prior
to their started term I always get
confused on this and I haven't looked
back at it um so it would have to be
done before the end of this year if I'm
remembering correctly to be effective
for the January 1st
2022 um officials that take office so
that's that's correct and so there's
there's a couple important things things
to think about here and one is we are
not talking about raising Bill Harvey's
salary uh we're talking about uh raising
the salary that would commence with the
next term of elected auditor um and then
uh Richard is correct for the the
auditor Position will be on the ballot
next November um so for us to be able to
enact that we would need to get an
ordinance on uh on Tuesday on this next
week um so um that's something to think
about and um I guess I would encourage
any uh thoughts or or or questions or
feedback on that for you to really be
thinking about that uh if we want to uh
to get that put
out um Troy I think it might be helpful
just for council members to understand
the current compensation for the auditor
is $26,000 a year um plus uh benefit so
the value of the benefits is um roughly
$14,000 for health insurance
and around about another thousand bucks
provision in Dental I think oh I
think whatever so so there's a uh it the
package I think comes out currently to
around $40,000 for auditor am I am I
right yeah roughly um and
uh the uh proposal I think that was
being potentially circulated was
55,000
salary the ordinance did not have
anything about benefits but I assume
that that was probably it actually
there's another ordinance there's a
there's a there's another part of our
ordinances that gives the auditor and
the City
attorney benefits the option the option
for
benefits oh so those benefits are
exercised and you that gets deducted
from the pay for you so it's not 4 it's
not additive no it is additive it is
additive okay so just
um yeah I I I have the same I pay the
same for insurance that any other
employee does so that 20% that's a
that's a dollar value to that that
package you have to be AIC um I just
wanted you guys to be aware of the
numbers so that everybody understood
that uh it's part of the conversation I
am for the okay Troy any further on that
I don't think so there there's any uh
questions or any other uh anything else
anybody wants to talk
about all right any um other business or
a report from
you I don't think so are you expecting
something it sounds like you're
expecting no I'm just asking want to
make sure that I got you covered sir um
I I I the mayor mentioned the cic and I
think we were all kind of uh oh we
forgot about that we were sort of
shrugging because I think the cic
meeting was mostly executive session so
I don't think there's much to report
from
there okay we did we did authorize a new
line of credit with um uh the Ohio State
Bank bank uh it's renewing an an
existing credit uh the that was uh cic
board members that pursued different uh
quotes from different banks and that was
the most favorable rate by far uh was uh
Prime
minus. five I think so really excellent
terms and kudos to the team for
negotiating that um I will note that uh
there were a couple of our members who
are who are investors and recused
themselves as
appropriate all
right Troy if I
may
yeah all right um Jen we've heard a lot
from you you got anything more for us
not a
thing that was too much I was kind of
hoping thanks I want to hear more from
Jen zoning and
development development Jessica sad I am
good president Bible thank you uh
Recreation Mr
Kingler uh the only uh liaison report
that I have is that uh last Wednesday on
the Feast of St Charles Charles
Oro uh St Charles Preparatory School
announced plans to move forward with the
Frank E Murphy Convocation Center uh the
octagonal structure will feature a
flexible Arena that will accommodate
numerous athletic events um including
basketball volleyball and wrestling its
upper level will be crowned by a 360
degree indoor running track in other
configurations the space will be used by
St Charles and other Central Ohio
communities much like Walter student
Commons has been to host concerts and
other public presentations and events so
there will be another space coming to
Bexley for us to
use well
hooray that sounds exciting looks like
Richard Sharp has his hand
raised I missed it um it have a location
will that be in Beckley or on the west
campus uh that will be in Bexley in the
existing parking lot outside of like
kind of where the is Natatorium
gymnasium right there ah all summer long
I wondered why all those trees were gone
now I know all right thanks Mr Cleaner
that's really interesting that's all
anything else sir that's all I had to
report all right thank you oh Mo'Nique
ly we're loving this agenda I don't know
what the rest of my colleagues think but
I hope they liked it old business new
business or a report from you good I
have nothing I I would love for us to
try this this new agenda at least one
more time before we give feedback and
kind of try to tweak it all right uh
let's all think about this and the
calendar okay before November 17th um we
are to nothing else right
Monique nothing else all right thank you
so much so now we are to the point um
where we accept public comment um on any
kind of anything you'd like to talk
about um for those still with us this
evening anybody in attendant have
anything they would like to
share all right I see no signs of them
wanting to share so I will accept a
motion to
adjourn a motion to adjourn thank you
Jessica a second please second a second
from Jen all those in favor please say I
I I those opposed please don't say
anything I have a seated c i can vote on
thanks everybody take good care good
work tonight thanks everyone fun meeting
night see you next Tuesday yikes