all right
we are um i think we're good to go
um gina for a second do you want to stop
sharing just for our intro and some
introductions or
yeah so people can we can see each other
hey guys
um good to see you uh
hopefully we'll have a couple more
people join at least this workshop if
not we're going to be uh streaming this
on youtube and people can watch it for
posterity's sake and we have a
survey online they can fill out but i
wanted to just welcome you first off
um i'm ben kessler i'm the mayor um also
with us this evening on our team
is andy bayshore who is our service
director
um dave koch who is our city engineer
and gina balsamo who is with carpenter
marty
our traffic consultant uh for the drexel
avenue project so
the reason we're putting this workshop
together is as i think you guys probably
know we have a
pretty major road work project that is
going to be happening next year
on drexel avenue we see this as an
opportunity to address
chronic safety concerns that have been
there for the corridor
and we really want to take a a
bold step to calming traffic on drexel
beautifying the street and really taking
it to the next level so we see this as
an opportunity to do that
and as we enter that planning process we
want to
seek public comment and feedback um to
see what's important to residents and to
organizations and users along the
corridor and so that's why we're here
tonight
um i'm about to pass it over to gina
with carpenter marty who's going to be
doing a presentation and then we'll have
an opportunity for
questions and answers um as this goes
along
feel free to type something to us as
hosts in the chat
so we can kind of keep track of any
questions that might be rising
to the surface and we can address those
after the presentation
andy did you want to add anything to
that
i did not mayor all right well the floor
is yours
thank you hey
okay i will pull up the presentation
here
okay we all good we can see that
what's good okay well so this
is the south drexel avenue
traffic study our first public meeting
so an overview of the project area um
it's basically
drexel avenue from main street on the
south end to broad street
on the north end and everything in
between those two intersections
and looking at this area you know
obviously we have a lot of residential
neighborhood homes throughout the whole
corridor
but we also have some major trip
generators in the area
so we have capital university on the
south end
we have this larger commercial district
that kind of continues up onto drexel
avenue for a bit
also on the south end
we have the saint alvin's episcopal
church
in the middle of the area and then
columbus school for girls on the north
end of the study area
so we have our two major intersections
both signalized at main and broad
um but then you know we have a lot of
these small
side street intersections that are
unsignalized
stock controlled for those side streets
free flowing for drexel
so we're going to be looking at all of
those intersections in the middle
so setting forward some goals for this
project
um first being to reduce the vehicular
operating speeds
second is improving pedestrian safety at
the uncontrolled crosswalks and those
side street intersections
improving safety within the csg school
zone
improving side street sight distance so
you know sometimes when you're
a vehicle sitting at the stop bar on one
of the side streets
you can't really see the conflicting
vehicles coming at you
until they're right in front of you and
it's too late
or sometimes you can't see pedestrians
crossing
so just trying to improve that sight
distance for the side streets
and then kind of what ben was getting at
in his intro is providing some
additional green space
and streetscape aspects for the for the
corridor
an overview of our scope and what we're
going to be doing
at carpenter marty for this project so
it all starts out with data collection
which we've already done we collected
count data
back in april and i will say we made
sure that we checked all the schools
so nobody was in spring break during the
time
and since we were looking at pedestrians
and counting them as well we made sure
that it was
good weather days so people would
actually be out and about and walking
as they would normally after that we had
some crash analysis so we take a look
at all of the crashes that happen within
the corridor
from 2017 to the data available in 2020
that's
the most up-to-date data we can get so
just looking at the crash history
helping to point us in the direction of
where improvements are needed
from that crash history standpoint
then conducting field observations so i
walked the corridor with david
um you know we took note of you know
what i saw from a traffic
standpoint and david caught me up to
speed from
a local standpoint and what you guys
have done in the past
um problems that he's heard over time
um so you know just getting that real
field
look at everything um because you know
you can't do engineering just from
google and then the next step is public
involvement which is you know what we're
doing here tonight
um and we're going to be seeking more
public involvement throughout the
project
so you know from the local standpoint we
just want to know what you guys think
you guys walk the corridor you live in
the corridor
you know where we need improvements
after that we're going to be doing some
vehicular analysis
you know seeing where we may need turn
lanes where there's delays
um where the parking needs are things
like that
looking at it from a vehicular
standpoint um
and along with that comes the sight
distance like i talked about you know
being able to see from the vehicle
standpoint
um and then there's obviously the
pedestrian and bicycle standpoint
that we're going to be looking at as
well and improving
safety and mobility for everybody
so after all that data collection and
analysis
that's when we start coming up with the
countermeasures so
what are we going to recommend for the
corridor for improving it for everybody
and once we decide on those counter
measures we'll have concept plans and
cost
estimates that go along with that and
then it's all going to be summarized in
a report
so you can all look back on it you know
years from now and see what we did
and and use that for future planning as
well
so like i said we did some field
observations and i'm just going to walk
through some
quick key takeaways this is obviously
not everything that i got from there you
know i have pages and notes from that
but some key things that i took away
from that from a traffic standpoint
is that just looking at the vehicles
driving on there
you know not taking any speed
measurements right now but
it's obvious that the vehicle operating
speeds are higher than 25 miles per hour
so that being one of the goals is to
lower the speeds
to get it more in line with what we want
for that corridor
and and that comes in with the fact that
we have a very wide roadway width
for what we need out here you know
obviously it's just one lane in each
direction
but we have parking lanes as well and
when there's nobody parked there
then it's basically a two-lane roadway
for one vehicle
driving on it which kind of gives you
the feel like you can go
fast but obviously that's not what we
want
um so you know coming up with ideas to
to fix
that is is what we're going to be
focusing on
another thing we noticed is utility
poles within the clear zone
and you can kind of see that in this one
picture you know in some places the
utility pools are
right up against the curb line there
which can
cause some issues you know if you're an
errant vehicle
and you drive off the roadway you know
that means that you're going to hit a
utility pole
and there's some issues that come along
with that and some of that is just
planning you know utility work is is a
lot
expensive and impactful as well
so some of that might maybe future
planning to move utility poles
but again just something that we're
going to be looking at
obviously the sight distance concerns
that i kind of already touched on
and then these newly installed
pedestrian enhancements you know
bexley's doing a great job
of trying to improve things for the
pedestrians
and this is a great rectangular rapid
flashing beacon they have here
so we're just going to be building upon
what you guys have already done
um and you know enhancing things further
from a pedestrian standpoint as well
so as i said you know we gathered all
the crash data
and i'm just going to walk you through
the the vehicular
or i'm sorry the pedestrian and the
bicycle crashes that we saw vehicle
crashes will be shared
in the report later on but just from a
bicycle and pedestrian standpoint we had
a bicycle crash
up here at the north end of the site
um we had a pedestrian crash here at
fair avenue
and then we also had a pedestrian crash
down here
crossing drexel at the main street
intersection
so that's what we had again from 2017
through 2020
and then looking at the count data that
we collected um
so for the pedestrians crossing at these
marked crosswalks
um i'm gonna go through a few here for
you
um so we're gonna be sharing this out
i know it's a lot to take in some of
these graphics that i'm going to be
sharing with account data
so this is just to give you a quick idea
of what we have
and you can look at it in detail
afterwards if you want to
but so this is the data for pedestrians
crossing drexel
at sherwood road so you can see here
you have 44 going east eastbound
and 41 going westbound
and that's from 6 30 a.m to 6
30 p.m so 12 hours of data again on a
nice weather
weekday and that's what we're seeing
there at that crossing which is a pretty
healthy amount of pedestrians there
and then at dale avenue here's what we
had it's a little different looking here
because we got
each leg of that four-legged
intersection
um but for example the north leg here
is where we had the highest amount of
pedestrians crossing so
50 going eastbound 30 going westbound
and then you can see how those
pedestrians went
all around that intersection
and then moving up to powell avenue um
same thing you know the north leg of the
intersection saw the most amount of
pedestrians there
again close to the 40s in both
directions
and then getting into the traffic count
data so from a vehicular standpoint
we collected vehicle counts at both of
the signalized intersections so at broad
and main
and then we also collected vehicle data
at fair avenue
and i know these graphics again are a
lot to take in
but this just gives you a big picture
idea of
the vehicle movements and how they
compare to each other at each
intersection
um and those those turning movements
obviously being important from the
standpoint
of sight distance and conflicting
with those pedestrians crossing drexel
um and this is again just the am
peak hour so next
is the pm peak hour so that evening rush
hour we see
you know about from 4 45 to 5 45
pm and again you can
see the vehicular movements on each road
the turning movements the through
movements and you can see
the pedestrians also crossing on each
leg
so once we take all this data and again
do all the analysis we're going to start
coming up with countermeasures
and we're really in the beginning stages
right now so
we haven't you know developed any
countermeasures yet that's why we're
talking to you guys now
um we want to talk to you before we
really get into the weeds of things
um but obviously coming to the stage
here we have some ideas in the back of
our mind that we're going to be looking
at
so some of that includes bump outs you
know that'll help
improve safety from a pedestrian and
bike standpoint
and also try to do some traffic calming
as well
again going with that is the option of
adding medians
and in general just some roadway
narrowing some traffic calming
helping out mobility from all
standpoints
um and obviously there's going to be
more countermeasures we're going to be
looking at
and and that's why we're bringing you
guys to the table is we want your
feedback we want your ideas
um let us know
so then moving on to the schedule and
the next steps so
we're going to after this we're going to
do our our vehicular sight distance and
pedestrian bicycle analysis
we're going to be reviewing the public
input we get from you guys
we're going to be developing
countermeasures concept plans and cost
estimates
and then we're going to come back to you
guys after we have that and and share
that with you
and seek additional input from you guys
and then sometime in august we're
planning on submitting a draft report
that summarizes everything
and then you know we expect we'll get
some comments back from the city on that
make some changes and then submit the
final report and our final
recommendations
in september
so that's um coming to the end of the
presentation here
we want to make sure that we get your
comments you know obviously we'll have
you guys
raise your hand and unmute and and share
your comments in the chat box but we
also have an online survey
so you can follow this link and and fill
out the survey online
we would like to have all of that done
by friday so
if you could please do that by then
um and then now we'll take your
questions
yes all right um
gina one of the questions asked in the
chat was
are you anticipating eating into the
front yard of drexel residents
and i think i can i can probably take
that and then you guys can supplement it
but
the short answer is no um the the
project that we're anticipating is
narrowing the street which would
actually provide
uh additional green space either between
the curb and the sidewalk
or in places or all along or
uh potentially medians so those
all of those options would have the curb
where it is today
at the bare minimum or narrower so
that would you know be additional green
space in front of homes
um now if engineers disagree with that
statement
let me know but i that that's my
understanding of the intent
yeah ben david coke here that's correct
uh we were not
anticipating widening or adding
turn lanes at this point
there could also there could also be
some
some extra width provided in the utility
strip or tree lawn area
in certain locations that would be
beneficial
for a lot of different purposes than the
narrowing of the roadway
and getting more clearance in between
the curb and roadway
and utility poles which in some cases
are in the curb line
on yeah the uh on the east side of the
street
but i think it's safe to say that none
of the scenarios would involve widening
the roadway or eating into front yards
because that would be counterproductive
to
to what we're uh hoping to accomplish
right um jim wilson has his hand raised
i'm going to call on hands raised based
on the order so jim
thank you mr mayor i'm sure you're tired
of seeing me lately
um okay um
a couple uh comments um first of all
is i do walk um
drexel every tuesday and thursday
and and usually during the school year
when
csg is having students dropped off at
drexel circle
and i think the most dangerous situation
on all of drexel
is at the intersection of drexel circle
and drexel
there's a no left hand turn sign but
unless you have someone there you're not
going to observe this
in like a 20 to half hour 20 minute to
half hour
interval every time i walk by there at
least one driver makes a left-hand turn
out of there
usually it's two or three drivers in the
time that i'm walking that block or two
and that seems to me a very dangerous
situation because the driver's got to
look both ways
and there's usually you know in the
non-cova times especially a fair amount
of traffic
at that time and i think it's sooner or
later a driver is going to just
get distracted by the traffic try to
make a turn not
having looked back to their left and
some
pedestrian student or someone else is
going to get hit
because someone's going to make an
illegal left-hand turn
i'm not a traffic engineer but i think
ballard's or some sort of divider up
there by
um that intersection of drexel circle
and drexel
that makes it physically impossible to
make the
the left-hand turn would be ideal
others who know more about how to
control traffic may have better ideas
than that because i i know that ballards
are going to get
run over and and andy is going to be
replacing them every other week and
that's not an ideal situation but
something that makes it harder i've
talked to the chief
and but it's impossible to put police
coverage there because
if you stick a police car right there no
one's going to do it that day
if you put them back at powell that's
too far for them to see
so it's it's not a solution i think that
police
can easily deal with so that's my my
biggest concern on all of drexel
i will say though that um there is no
crosswalk
from fair down to sherwood
and i think it would be really useful
to put a crosswalk in somewhere i live
on bexley park so that would be the
perfect place from my perspective but
i'm not fixed on that it's just unless
you want to
illegally cross and sometimes again it's
dangerous
uh frequently dangerous to do that it
would be useful to have a crosswalk
in that's that space and then just the
last the third thing i'd say
and this is the lat well no actually the
third thing i'd say is
last time i checked this the speed
limit's still 35
on draxel unless it changed during covid
and
uh um i just looked on google maps and
it still says 35
so just changing the speed limit would
be one good way to
uh slow people down but
i would say that the the final point is
i'm not in favor of creating bike lanes
on
drexel primarily because i think the c
city
had an agreement with csg to maintain
those parking spaces
near csg back 10 years ago when csg
owned adjacent lots and was considering
building additional on-campus parking
and i
understood the quid pro quo for csg
giving up that plan was that this the
the street parking would be maintained
close to school i think that's maybe
more of an issue for the bike plan
than for you all but i do think i think
that that's a serious issue
but the one thing i would say is it
here on drexel or anywhere else where
bike lanes are added
i think there has to be clear signage
that cyclists
have to yield the right-of-way to a
pedestrian
in a crosswalk i see it happen all the
time that they fly through there
even with the lighted intersections and
i i fully support making bexley a
bicycle
friendly town but not at risk to
pedestrians and so i think we need
signage
there and police enforcement if we put
bike lanes there or anywhere else where
bicyclists are held to account
when when they act like they own the
road that's all i have mr mayor
that that's a good list uh jim uh uh
first off
for those of you who don't know jim
wilson is on the tree commission so
jim shame on you for saying bollards and
not median because i feel like
i i would like medians but
i want medians with metal spikes like i
wanted on broad street but i've been
told that
motorist safety trumps my love of metal
spikes to keep people from
crossing the median i'd be happy with a
yellow painted median
like i said i'm not a traffic engineer
so i don't know what the right
solution is i think it's a little bit
narrow for a median
up there where it divides into a turn
lane in the other lane but
smarter mines than i can figure that out
a couple couple comments and i'd like to
traffic engineers to to chime in here
for
we we actually did change the speed
limit during kobe gym
uh a little bit we we we signed this
school area uh 25 and then 20 during
school hours and we signed the business
area 25
because via ohio revised code we can do
that within the business
and the school area not within the
residential area because it's a state
it's a state route
in order for us to petition the state to
lower the speed
we have to first achieve a lower speed
so we have to prove that the speed limit
is not appropriate for the corridor so
it puts the burden and onus on us
to engineering a solution where drivers
don't feel comfortable driving 35
and we calm them down and then we have a
survey
that proves the point and the state
allows us to lower that speed limit
so the play here is to calm traffic in
order to lower the speed
um the bike plan the i was actually
speaking after the council meeting last
night with our bike planner
for those who aren't familiar with it
one of the concepts is to put a
dedicated bike lane on
on drexel and the concern with that is
the loss of parking
among some other things the bike plan
is actually going to be slightly
modified to say that if we're able to
achieve true traffic coming on drexel
a dedicated bike lane would not be
indicated because you would have a calm
or safer environment
and you wouldn't need it so i think it
if we can achieve calming we we achieve
all of those
objectives by means of comparison you
mentioned bexley park
bexley park bryden are similar and you
guys can correct me if i'm wrong they're
relatively similar
curb to curb in terms of width so you
get an idea of what might
it might look like on drexel were you to
put a tree line in the middle in a
median
and have parking on the sides you would
have a throttle road condition where
drivers would not feel comfortable going
that higher speed but you could
accommodate both parking
and a median to slow down traffic so
that just gives you an idea of the
physicality of that space
um but i'd have no problem with that as
long as you don't plant the same pear
trees that you planted on
only sweet gums so uh traffic
engineers anything to add to that
yeah ben that he did a really good job
on explaining
the jurisdiction of odot and the
difficulty of just
arbitrarily changing the speed limit
that we're prohibited
as long as that's a u.s route under
their jurisdiction uh if it's local
jurisdiction yes we would have changed
it already
so part of the study is uh analyzing
some of that and i just wanted to add we
did
some traffic counts and speed study that
we want to where we currently were and
it was very close to the
35 miles an hour and higher in in a lot
of cases and
it varies by time of day and you know
you can you can look at different data
and come up with different numbers but
it isn't where we would really think it
should be for a residential
neighborhood and i think that's our
that's our consensus
and uh we're trying to address that and
the other point that jim you question
you made
or had was about crosswalks that aren't
there currently
and my discussion so far
with uh with gina and with andy and with
ben was i i really believe that we
should have
more crosswalks and maybe even one per
intersection
or major intersection the uh
that will be that will be part of the
recommendations probably
and when we get there and how the best
to do that the other
some of the intersections are offset and
staggered so they're not real clear cut
on making a crosswalk location so it
would take a plot but
i think you had some other uh
uh comments about drexel
circle in that we did not identify those
on our
on our map that we showed on the in the
uh
presentation but i thought of it just as
we were doing the presentation that you
are
you are correct that that is something
that does have a lot of traffic
and particularly at the south uh
west corner at csg and that probably
needs
to have been looked at separately from
everything else and
what's going on there and if there are
any concerns
and i would trust that you know people
who are familiar more familiar with it
than i would
be able to kind of guide us and give us
some give us some help
uh taking a look at that and what they
see as uh considerations that need to be
addressed
thanks thanks dave we have a couple more
questions and comments in the chat but
before we go to those beverly bane has
had
her hand up beverly if you want to you
want to
you know this is this is uh erwin
banerwein
yeah first uh thank you for having this
uh this session i think it's helpful to
uh to get her comments uh gina
you had made a very valid point about
the visibility on the intersections
and we live at the intersection of south
drexel and
elm and when we turn left
uh to go to broad street the cars
are parked so close to the intersection
that you really can't see very well and
you know to me that's an accident
waiting to happen and
i think there's a no-cost way to to
solve that is just figure out where
you know where the visibility point is
maybe put up a no parking spot
equal to the length of the uh of an
existing car
so that when you turn left uh your view
is not blocked
but i think you raise a valid point and
it's something that we deal with every
day
yeah and i think that bump outs um will
really help with that as well
because that provides you know like you
said where you can mark off no parking
here
um taking that the next step further
we'll have some green
space right there so you physically
can't park there
yeah this is beverly can i ask a
question please
absolutely yes um you mentioned about
these speed bumps
they're speed bumps we have some friends
that live on south
gold so do you put them
by each intersection or do you just
randomly
put them um where you think they would
need to be to slow down cars
um so we said bump outs so it's
more of um like training on the pipeline
so it bumps
out into the roadway um
okay sorry go ahead i don't i'm sorry i
don't know the difference
um in the bump out in the bump
right okay share screens um and
show you i had it in the one slide
oh i passed it so
this picture here where you have the
the curb line you see how it bumps out
so right now it's basically that curb
line is just
straight from the parking all the way to
the intersection
so the idea is that you bump out that
curve so that way you're shortening that
pedestrian crossing distance
you can bring up your stop line for the
vehicle
on the side street and you're also you
know like you had said the parking being
an issue
you're also physically pushing that
parking
further away from the intersection as
well
and having some traffic calming mixed in
there as well for
vehicles driving on drexel
okay thank you yeah
i can you know what as a driver i can
really picture the benefit of a bump out
at any of those crossings but
particularly the one
at csg where there's a uniformed officer
there during
pickup and bus is parked on the street
and you're driving southbound
and you can't see who's coming through
that crosswalk which is probably why you
guys have an officer posted there
uh every day but um so you could see a
bump out
in any of those pedestrian environments
would get the pedestrian front and
center so that the the motorist sees
them more clearly
gives them a chance they have less
crossing distance between the street
it could be combined with a median where
you have a safe landing point between
the two spaces
and then the bump pack gives greater
visibility to the driver so there's a
lot of advantages to it
and it's something we've explored in
other contexts and drexel seems like a
really perfect candidate for it
in the chat we have a concern about the
loss of parking along drexel
will we lose spaces uh that would move
parking further into the neighborhood
and so i think the answer is we don't
know that except we hear
you that that's a concern and we
understand that that's a concern that's
something that's been
that's a concern in any area because
residents rely on those spaces
themselves and so do the institutions to
the north
and the businesses to the south and so i
i think one the team has talked about
the objective of maintaining parking on
drexel
consistently throughout this and it's
important that we hear that from you and
we'll log that as a comment going into
the process
the other question are they think are
they are we thinking about adding
any additional crosswalks as well in the
corridor
um and i think we've kind of touched on
that so i think the answer is
yes that would certainly be of interest
and will the dora play a part in any of
this so the door is our designated
outdoor refreshment area
um it it stops at sherwood on the south
side of sherwood basically like where
the bed and breakfast is
and i don't think there's any
anticipation that that would get
expanded
sorry i've got a zoom bomber in the
background um and so i think
that i'm not maybe if you want to
expound on the question but i think the
short answer probably is no
the door wouldn't really be expanded any
further from where it is today
which is kind of focused on the main
street corridor
okay any other questions or comments
all right uh julie did you wanna i'm not
not not to call out on you but julie i
can bare you're here is
not to out i'm gonna out you you're here
with csg rep
do you have any uh any specific
questions or concerns
so my question was the one in the chat
i'm concerned about losing parking
spaces
on drexel right in front of the school
because it's just going to move
people into the neighborhoods and i
don't know how far they're going to move
them into the neighborhood already in
colombia there's
some more restrictions that have
happened so i'm concerned about that
um i i feel your everybody's pain
about the left turn out of the circle i
mean if you saw the amount of notices
that we send to our families telling
them that they're not supposed to turn
left there's
different times i've done it myself
where administrators are out there
trying to tell people don't turn left
when they're after they've dropped their
kids off
so if you came up with something that
could get people to stop we would
support that
um and then i was you know just learned
about the bike path
um and i i was concerned if that's gonna
how that's gonna play into it as well i
mean we don't
have parking and if you drive around
there in a given day
i mean there's probably gina might know
because she was over there i mean i bet
there's
50 to 75 cars around that block parked
every day
i just don't know where we'd moved them
all
understood um
i had a question julie for you but it oh
yeah the jim mentioned an agreement
and i you know institutional knowledge
apparently only runs so deep i have not
heard of that do you know
anything about that no and i would trust
jim because he's been
involved with school longer than i i've
only been there seven years
um the only thing i was told is that
those
the two homes that we purchased that we
did want to be able to
put tear those down and put parking
um and that was not approved so maybe
they're tied together but jim wouldn't
would have he has the institutional
knowledge
on that one well we'll certainly
research that i think regardless
uh i think it's it's true that we
understand the importance of on-street
parking to csg's operations
and um we are also acutely aware of what
happens when you displace parking into
other residential neighborhoods
that don't currently have it so we've
experienced that before
so appreciate the comments
anything else from uh from the group
here
and can i add just one thing from
everyone's information
on schedule for the project we are
going to start with some underground
work this year and uh we're going to try
to
do a lot of underground work this year
and next year
we would be putting in place some of the
improvements that we're discussing now
but we do have a lot of utility work to
do before that
so you will see work being done on the
street starting
here in the next month or two and that
will probably continue
throughout the rest of the year and
we're also aware of
operations for columbus school for girls
and we'll try to
schedule our activities with the
underground installation to coincide
with the summer
break and try to clear that zone before
school starts
so david just so you know we have summer
programs and that goes from june
7th through august the 6th students and
faculty then all return back on august
the 9th so i just don't
we'll have to work together oh
absolutely yeah
because we we will be we won't be as
full in the the summer but we will
yeah we will have students there
absolutely um to be in touch sure
absolutely and just so folks are aware
when they see that that's not like we
have any foregone conclusions on the
roadwork portion of it this is this is
underground stuff so
um next steps we have a survey that's
out we've already received quite a few
responses on that survey
we're going to recirculate it again in
the blast tomorrow we're going to
provide a link to this
workshop to all the residents they had a
link but
we'll give them a link to the actual
video and then after we received all
that feedback and assimilated that and
also what we heard today
we will come up with some options and
sort of a draft sketch of what we think
might make some sense circulate it back
to the community and ask for more
feedback
and that is going to happen gina i think
you covered it already but oh i want to
just remind people
around i'm going to i'm going to make a
date up so
quick yeah so the the additional
public input will be in july
approximately and then we said
submitting a draft report in august and
then
you know getting comments and finalizing
that report in september
all right so we have some time if you
have any other thoughts feel free to um
plug them into that survey the link is
on the chat
if you guys i think you should see it up
up at the top
um there okay good i'll
case i think yeah you probably just see
two of them now same link okay
so you can click on that there's a uh
there's a it's all about this workshop
but there's a link to the survey within
that article
and um i'm excited to see what gina you
come up with i'm excited to share that
with the community i think this is a
really
um you know it's a rare opportunity and
um
it's a good opportunity so we'll see
where we go with it and thanks everybody
for uh contributing any last thoughts
from our team
have a great evening everybody and have
a great weekend
all right thank you it's wednesday