all right are we good to go here
thanks and uh good knee good evening
everybody good looking crowd out here
tonight good looking uh group of elected
officials uh as well oh they are they're
for up close here right
uh welcome to the Tuesday March 28th uh
meeting at Bexley city council uh Mr
mcpeek how are you doing today super how
are you I'm doing really good hair
looking good on point and everything I
know you've been traveling this last
week
good to be back all right
take the roll call for us would you all
right uh fibo I am here Klingler here
lamke here Marcelino president Markham
here Robinson here and sod here please
rise with me and uh recite the Pledge of
Allegiance
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation
indivisible with liberty
thank you
all right we have a special guest with
us tonight Stephanie Matthews that's you
I know I I freaked her out because I I
want to remind everybody that they need
a speaker slip for that opening and then
Stephanie started to go fill out a
speaker slip and I'm like not not you
you're you're on the agenda here Welcome
to our uh city council and I know you've
got some exciting stuff to share with us
thank you thanks so much for having me
good evening everyone
um council president Markham members of
council my name is Stephanie Matthews
executive director of the columbus-based
nonprofit a tribe for jazz but before I
tell you a little bit more about us I
want to acknowledge a couple of
community supporters who are here with
us this evening Lewis and Connie Smith
uh who are also members of the German
Village society and long time Bexley
resident and owner of Cafe Istanbul
Sherry papier thank you so much
a tribe for jazz was formed in May of
2021 with the mission to preserve the
Legacy and Advance the future of jazz
through Visual storytelling live and
virtual performances education and
Community engagement
I'm here today to speak to you about
jazz appreciation month which was
created by the Smithsonian National
Museum of American history in 2001 to
recognize and celebrate Jazz's
extraordinary Heritage and the history
all throughout the month of April
in honor of jazz appreciation month the
tribe for jazz celebrates the rich
Heritage of jazz with an incredible list
of programming at the Bexley Public
Library Auditorium our programming
includes screenings of our film Legacy
John robagon a soul tinner Odyssey never
before seen concert footage of acclaimed
pianist Fabian Amazon and bassist Grammy
Award winner Linda Mahon oh as well as
Adam o'farrell's stranger days from the
inaugural Columbus International Jazz
series which we presented at the Capitol
University Conservatory of Music last
September
the Jazz appreciation month programming
also includes live solo performances by
robagon winner of the felonious monk
International Jazz competition and
Amazon who is pursuing a PhD at Harvard
University and has commissioned new work
documenting documenting sacrifice zones
areas predominantly populated by black
brown and Indigenous people in South
Florida Florida who experience
environmental racism through constant
subjugation to high levels excuse me
subjection to high levels of air
pollution environmental hazards due to
nearby toxic or polluting industrial
facilities this subject is highly
relevant given the recent experiences of
residents in East Palestine Ohio
our vision is to try for jazz is to
advance the future of jazz by producing
content events and activities that
transform educate and lead to purposeful
actions in impactful conversations
surrounding the preservation of the
genre a tribe for jazz is excited to
bring attention to the Heritage and
history of jazz during Jazz appreciation
month in Bexley and Central Ohio and
thank you so much for your time and
allowing me to present thank you so much
do we have any comments or questions
about the yes
I knew I knew you okay
pulling out of context someone came and
spoke to the Bexley White Hall rotary
and um yes and I I fell in love with you
there and um I also
um I also wanted to share with you we we
have some lovers of jazz in our
community and I think maybe I've shared
that with you we um we are have we have
every summer we have uh three to four I
think four this summer I think we have
four jazz in the Parks and we'd love for
you to end your trip to come visit us
wonderful because we do celebrate we do
celebrate Jazz so so thank you for
continuing to to do this and um I was so
glad that I I
know I was gonna say hi thank you Lori I
appreciate that and we will do we'll
stay in touch absolutely thank you thank
you so much for coming yeah thank you
do we have any speakers slips tonight
we do not all right I will move on to
the president's report uh just
briefly touching again you know
it feels like deja vu again to have a
another school shooting
this week and to uh I hate to say it
when I make a note down here
you know I gotta say where was the
school shooting you know this time where
was this school shooting at Nashville
Tennessee and uh
I know we are probably a lot of us are
hearing from the community and school is
hearing about you know the fears and and
the concerns
um where
something that I think all of us up here
I want to reassure that we think about
all the time we have kids we think about
it we do everything we can
um we tell people that contact me
um
please contact your state and National
representatives and urge them to make
those changes at that level that we need
to be done so that we can do our jobs
here at the local level and protect
those kids and enact sensible Sensible
gun laws
um
so so so important that uh that uh
you know we become activists on that
level for uh for those changes I want to
reassure also that um
one of the things that we asked every
candidate
for a police chief when we interviewed
them was about school shootings about uh
public Shooters about these sorts of
acts of violence
um every I want to say that every
candidate that we interviewed including
of course Chief Lewis uh had very
comprehensive well thought out
experienced answers plans knowledge this
is something that we take very seriously
that we have people in place that take
it very seriously and think about this
night and day
um I don't want to reassure people that
we we are constantly thinking about this
this is something of utmost importance
to us
uh the only other thing I wanted to
include in the president's report was
that um the mayor
um convened a um called the meeting of
the chairs so last week or the week
before last I passed on some information
to all of you that Kathy Rose had put
together a uh uh I think for zoning and
um the meeting of the chairs uh with the
ARB architecture uh building and Zoning
tree and garden commission city council
mayor I just wanted to say uh to the
mayor what how like to me how productive
that that meeting seems and to let you
know I let Council know as well if any
of you are interested
in maybe coming to visit that or take
part of that maybe Matt Klingler
especially
um that uh I just I feel like
that sort of effort is really
um building those that communication
between all those different groups that
you know are working together and the
discussion that comes out is impressive
to me to hear sort of the concerns and
problems that come out of all those
different aspects of of uh thoughtful
thoughtful um
work here in the city
I will move it to Mr official for a city
report I do not have a report this
evening
Auditor's report Mr McPeak
um just a couple things I want to bring
Council up to speed on I'm going to
refer to notes here so bear with me
um but as follow-up to this strategy
session there were a couple things that
you guys had asked me to to dig into
um one of which
um is specifically
um you know evaluating options to help
fund our um you're the parks so as I
think we all know we have
um build up reserves and resources
within our financials to help fund a
significant portion of that in addition
we're getting
um we have grants and other access
um to funding to help support the year
of the parks with that being said we're
also looking to essentially match
um somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million
dollars of funds with Tiff funding
that's coming in over about a 10-year
period okay so that suggests that we
would want to get a note put a note in
place to essentially borrow money to do
this now given
um you know over 25 million dollars
sitting on our balance sheet today of
cash and Investments clearly an option
is to essentially borrow money from
ourselves
um I'll talk a little bit about that the
other option is to go to the market and
um play some public debt the fees for
that would be over fifty thousand
dollars and frankly just doesn't make a
ton of sense to do given the dollar
amount and
um the overall costs
um and then there is another option to
go to just a traditional bank and get
Bank financing so that would be
somewhere around four and a half to five
percent so those would-be options um
should we choose to do that but
um you know the the other path which we
we I think are leaning towards and I am
supportive of is essentially borrowing
money from ourselves
um and paying that back over a period of
time through the funds that are coming
in
um so you know I wanted to make sure
that we talked through that
um but all signs are pointing towards
this is something that we should look to
fund internally through an internal note
with a payback period that would tie to
the Tiff funding
um any questions about that as we head
down this path because I think this is
going to start accelerating at some
point in time in the coming weeks and
months but any any questions around that
approach and then ultimately looking to
um
you know have this working assumption
that we'll look to fund this internally
yep I was going to say notwithstanding
the fees if we do borrow from an outside
entity do you feel comfortable that with
the current balances that we have that
we could
um comfortably fund it ourselves yeah
yeah I mean without a doubt we do
um you know talk to Beecher and then
I'll talk a little bit more we've talked
to the our investment advisors as well
but um we certainly have the liquidity
and the resources to do that and then
I've also just had some high-level
conversations we'll say around you know
these types of monies moving around
um could that impact our Moody's ratings
or public ratings and the answer is no I
mean we are
um uh you know a municipality that that
sits on um good cash balances and and um
good repayment sources so none of these
activities would impact our Moody's
rating
yeah
um so if you have questions about it
um this will be an ongoing process
um as we we head down this path but just
let me know
um the other thing that I wanted to at
least to start to socialize as well is
that as part of this when we were
talking to our investment advisors
um we have like I said you know over 25
million dollars placed
um and as we know interest rates have
gone up
um relatively substantially in the pre
in the past
um you know six to 12 months and some of
those monies that we have are earning
about you know a quarter percent if we
were to reinvest those dollars today
into the market we would see
um rates closer to five percent
so what
um in discussions with is looking at
selling some of those assets or selling
some of those bonds early we would take
a penalty on that based upon the way the
market Works
um but then we would see a significant
increase in the amount of interest that
we would earn so
um in discussions with or our advisors
communities typically don't do that
because of the Optics of seeing a loss
on their financials with that being said
when you can sell something essentially
take a modest loss and then reinvest it
at a pretty substantial higher return
our payback period would be under five
months and these assets we'd hold on for
for probably they'd be time for you know
one to two years so it is a um a path
that the Beecher and I will continue to
explore but
um you know with the intent that we
would only do it if it had a pretty
aggressive and early payback period and
we weren't assuming any risk so I wanted
to again socialize that with Council as
well as the community any concerns with
that approach I would bring this back to
um
are what is our group called that meets
on Fridays Council planning meeting
count I would bring that back to our
Council planning meeting that would
include the mayor
um our finance and and uh Mr Markham
just before we'd finalize it just
because of the Optics of this but uh if
anybody has questions just let me know
what
yeah one thing I would just mention I
was just so I was on a regionally said
board meeting today and we were going
through our investment policy and we
just authorized investing in Star Ohio
which is the treasures fund you know but
I think it has full liquidity
um so I think you can go in and out of
that and right now they're 5.11 so I'm
not sure then again I'm not sure how
long term that promise is it's just
something to look at what I have done is
we have a um
we also have a deposit with Ohio State
um Ohio State Bank and they value our
deposits so when starters and I'm glad
you mentioned that because when Star
goes up I call them up and ask them to
make a star or if in our core Investment
Portfolio which is what we have with red
tree if we're buying new Investments
that are higher than what I'm getting
there than I ask and raise rate and
they've never refused yet so that's the
treasure so it's all like pretty like
it's it's a but anybody can invest in
starhub yeah that's any government yep
so it actually is now 5.12 it went up
point zero one since
all right your Ohio State Bank I just
asked them to go to 4.95 they said fine
so I'll be back on the email tomorrow
asking them to there you go go back up
the Stars yeah if you have if you have
questions about any of this just let us
know
um in the interim we'll continue to head
down these paths and then bring it back
to our planning meetings on on Fridays
and
um potentially look to make a move thank
you Matt that's uh that's awesome that
you're really spend that time looking at
that for us I really appreciate that and
Matt I would add
um depending on the amount of coupon or
the coupon investment Revenue we would
get it hopefully we wouldn't have to
post a net loss for the month on the
financials hopefully we would yeah but
it possibly we could yep
all right
um at this point in the agenda we will
spend the next portion holding the
public hearing on ordinance
623 and ordinance 723 and for that we
will hand control of this entire body
over too
at Klingler yeah come get the hammer
oh good word
uh thanks for everyone for joining us
tonight this is um as president Markham
said this is the hearing on public
hearing on ordinance uh zero seven-2-3
and zero six dash two three I will give
a little bit of background for those
that don't know
um these ordinances
uh zero six two three well first of all
both of them combine uh or I'm sorry
change
um the zoning use for multiple uh
Parcels
um zero six two three
um as has to do with the how do I put it
the gravel lot area down across kind of
from Rusty Bucket
um and currently it's it's is it planned
it's campus planning district right now
um it makes more sense for it to be
mixed use commercial uh probably 10 or
12 several years ago
um
Capital University sold those Parcels uh
that's why they used to be the um campus
planning district and this ordinance
brings it uh more up to appropriate use
any any questions on zero six dash two
three
is there a downside at all to change the
Zoning for those parcels
I don't believe so I think it's uh
it's better for development for future
development so any potential developer
that comes in it's already planned for a
mixed-use commercial as opposed to
currently it is campus planning so they
have to come and get it rezoned
if they wanted to develop it
I I think it's also just a more accurate
description of what it is more accurate
placement I should say of this property
yeah
and it's if you're not Capital
University then you can't do anything
with this site under campus planning
district so uh one thing I would add to
that is that the initial Southwest
Booksy master plan ended up in a memory
memorandum of understanding
where the city and capital and Trinity
went together on an agreement one of the
agreements was that the site would be
divested and sold to the private to the
market which it which it did with the
understanding that would be developed
privately
um so the city's already kind of acted
and is on the record that they want this
to be a private development not campus
planning district uh this came up
because we were looking at the Schneider
Park zoning and in the process of that
um it just popped out at me that this
had not been rezoned because there had
been no Act of the property owner to do
so and that it would be appropriate to
have it zoned properly so that on the
income basis we you know we do hope
development occurs there that it be
prepared with the proper Zone in
right and I think that bears the one
part on the it the f-com part pair is
repeating this is not being done with a
precursor that next week or next month
your next you know the next couple
months you're going to see something
that is being prepared this is I mean
again hopefully there is development
there at some point but this is not
being done with the idea that there's a
plan ready to go
or we're planning for the future exactly
any other questions
any questions from the audience
we also have the applicant we're not the
applicant I guess Property Owners
representative Property Owners
representative anything
I can't answer the question
can you um can you press the button on
the mic yeah my name is Jack Reynolds uh
with Smith and Hale I represent the
owner of the property uh and uh you know
City came forward and contacted the
owner and said you know we've caught
this you know it's currently zoned for
the campus District would you be
interested and willing for us to move
forward with having the property rezone
and put into the category that is a a
more commercial friendly uh you know
Larry did do the north side uh it is muc
it is the appropriate zoning
classification for a commercial
development uh you know we we we
appreciate the city approaching us and
saying would you you know be interested
we certainly are uh I think you know the
City attorney is Right Larry is still
working on uh plans for the property and
obviously he'd like to see it developed
uh and uh you all will know when he's
ready to move forward uh but obviously
this does make it more attractive in
terms of the property is ready to move
forward instead of having to say to a
developer oh we've got to rezone it to
the muc because it's not currently zoned
for that type of activity so again this
is a step you know the big step is when
you actually show up to these app with
the preliminary development plan and
then the final development plan that
comes before you all so that's when the
rubber hits the road this is just
putting in the right classification
thank you
any other any other uh yes
John Lewis 663 you clear I think this is
terrific it's going to benefit the city
greatly I do have one question is there
a time limit that's going to be
established for the developer to have to
build something or will this continue to
be rolled over and over and over
mayor do you have any to my knowledge no
there's no time on it we're just
changing the zoning like Mr Reynolds
like we've said so it makes it you know
so much
this is this has been in this situation
the former MUSC for some time and now
it's time to redo it so to speak correct
but how long does he does the a
developer have to take advantage of this
or does he say you have to say Hey
listen your time element's up
so um as a specific developer for
example with most properties we don't
have a whole lot of tools to leverage to
force development I will say that one
thing that's unique to the site has
absolutely nothing to do with the zoning
whatsoever uh well at least with the
rezoning that we're talking about here
is that when the app when the property
owner applied for a temporary permit to
use it as a parking lot which was a it's
not explicitly an allowed to use it's a
conditional use along Main Street
um they were given a finite period of
time and staff has reached out to them
uh sent a letter last year to remind
them that they need to reapply uh for
that conditional use and we've we are
reiterating that yet again and I think
that was a portion of the bzap
discussion uh last week so thank you
it's relevant thank you
yes sir yes sir
um my name is James gross 500 South
Parkview in a former life I was sitting
on the other side of the table uh for 27
years thank you for your service uh Mike
I'm not opposed to this I just have a
question is part of this currently in
zone two
of the community of the
because that basically has muc
us WCC overlay yeah overlay a portion of
the project is a little bit hard to see
but this dashed line is that zone two
there is one parcel that's not in zone
two
it's okay so it expands the use slightly
yep yeah and just in general I think we
felt it cleaned it up it was just I'm
not here to oppose I'm just here to
understand and I've having looked at the
code having written those Provisions at
least some version of them I was just
curious as to where because I couldn't
figure out where the line is it's
actually these two it's two Parcels very
small one right here
0203480 the larger it's a single family
home and uh zero zero four eight eight
was kind of a utility area in the back
so those were two outside of that zone
two thanks
president Markham do you have a question
no I just got him I just got out okay
okay
anyone else any other questions on that
okay
Mr Klingler if I could note there so our
code requires a public hearing after
these apps recommendation to council has
been uh available for seven days that's
right so because that hearing happened
last Thursday it has not been seven days
by my math since last Thursday we're
going to have another public hearing
April 11th just if anyone wants to come
and have have another Gander at this it
will contextually be exactly the same as
this public hearing but uh we'll at
least have the benefit of more than
seven days for the record bzap did vote
to recommend this ordinance be passed by
Council
and that is included in the agenda
packet
thank you mayor
ordinance
07-2-3 is um
a little similar a little different uh
this this has to do with Schneider Park
and the city
um
has Parcels at Schneider park with
various zoning classifications including
CP R12 and PUD zoning so this cleans up
all of those Parcels to more
appropriately have them zoned as Os or
open space
any any questions on
07-2-3
just for if I may for council's benefit
the the gaps that you see here in
parcels
um those represent sites where we have
easements for Access for the park but
not title uh to the parcels and so we
opted instead of doing like a split
zoning on those Parcels to do uh only
open space Zone and on City owned
property
um if that makes sense so the the park
is contiguous but we're gonna those
areas where easements they're fairly
restrictive passive recreational use
easements we're going to maintain the
adjacent residential Zone in this
and the same thing applies in terms of
another public hearing on April 11th
sounds good
no questions on 07-2-3 uh I believe that
do I need to conclude the public hearing
or okay I can
any any questions from the audience any
questions from anyone okay uh hearing
none
I conclude the public hearing thank you
well
is that what they're saying for it is
absolutely you just
I think you just indicted some public
officials there
all right
for fans of Matt Klingler uh April 11th
he'll be back here
thank you for joining us running the
show again
uh at this point we move on to the
administrative update and Mr Mayor I
want to ask you to take us through those
thank you president Markham uh we are we
are blessed with a whole Cadre of uh
department heads to to this evening Mr
Price if you could uh kick us off with
the recreation department update please
yeah I have nothing to add to the
written report happy to answer any
questions
I have a question Mike yes how many
skate design RFP responses that we
received so far
did I not put it in there
well one as of the time you published
this is it still one yeah well as of the
time I last looked at my emails it's
still one but we have at least five now
actually that has changed they'll find
that then see
there you go wow really
we'll see if we actually get the
proposals but yeah I've been asking
questions about the RFP this side
I have to ask about the Easter egg hunt
give us the details yeah oh yeah super
exciting it's not a hunt
I mean yeah
last number
the grass is long enough it feels like a
hunt
um
yes Saturday next Saturday I'm just
coming Saturday next Saturday uh 12 noon
Jeffrey Park it'll be over by 1202. so
don't ah do not be late right uh truth
we will have uh nearly 5 000 eggs or
just around five thousand eggs
um raising canes for those that are big
Raising Canes fans they are donating a
bunch of free um kids meal coupons that
will go on some of the eggs as well so
uh
spread the word on that
um
yeah no
um
yeah but it's uh it's you know well
hopefully the weather cooperates but
it's it's a lot of fun a nice quick easy
uh Community event is this a rain or
shine it's generally a rain or shine uh
although I know we're called it's
calling for a lot of rain on Friday
thanks for you so bring your boots
to hit the CBS the day after for half
price bunnies
I just realized that my kids have aged
out of this event entirely and that just
kind of just hit me hit you I mean we're
always looking for volunteers still
because Robinson yeah I just have a
quick question um any update on pool
memberships or how are those numbers
looking um last I looked we were just
under 600.
um
how does that compare again it's a
different format right so these are just
individual memberships versus you know
we've generally sold them as families
and then I I think on a normal Year
we're somewhere in the neighborhood of
don't quote me on this because I don't
answer my fingertips but someone there
would have two to between two and three
thousand individual members okay
um
you know it's interesting it'll be
interesting to just kind of watch how
this develops uh there's no you know
there's no early bird in the way it's
structured that's something we'll do
next year probably differently uh 10
incentivized people just to get it taken
care of earlier on just so it gives us a
better sense of what we're dealing with
as early on as possible but
um you know I have no no real comparison
to know what whether you know just under
600 you know a couple months out is yeah
good or bad yeah I have a feeling it'll
be a last minute situation sure yeah
sure thanks for the update
Mr Price
thank you Michael
Mr Bayshore
good evening
you got sick of your audio not working
on zoom and you decided to join us I see
how it is very good
uh there's attached as my written report
um the only thing I guess I might add is
next week uh you'll probably start to
see a lot more work beginning on Drexel
um they were finishing up the storm work
this week and some of the concrete work
will take place next week
so just uh letters went out today to the
Drexel residents just give them an
update and you know work's coming soon
so happy to answer any questions
thank you Andy I'd add to that that if
you feel any Drexel questions under our
service
Department
Street water sewer infrastructure page
is the current information on Drexel
Avenue and current including the plan so
it's all
that kind of mirrors the language of the
letter that just went out
well I was just going to ask
um what the uh the tree count was to our
Arboretum over this past weekend 14 went
down right away okay
okay
and I was just gonna add that I was uh
passing the guys by and um stop of
course after I made a visit to Giant
Eagle of course
um but uh
amazing that they got so much done so
fast and in fact I've had at least two
members of our community
say oh my gosh our our tax money is
being being put to good use they have it
done and cleaned up in no time flat so
we have an excellent crew you you do
really they were all hands on deck and
there were a lot of them and it was it
was great so and those trees were huge
the one on the corner of Drexel and I
think right and maybe was it was it was
that's an example that was a private
tree so our tree Crews cleared the road
but then they went the extra mile and
they cleared everything that had landed
within the right-of-way so that was I
mean they did a great job and I know
that was a cross-disciplinary career
that was our tree Crews plus more I
believe right is the tree Crews plus
some of the street department so we all
we all worked together small crew but
they did well and I was
picking up things at Giant Eagle to take
home to my family so we could enjoy
watching the games and these guys were
doing that so I just I mean I I just
can't you know begin to say thank you to
all the people who work for our city who
make
our city so wonderful so thank you
please I mean I know that they know that
I'm a huge fan but I know they need to
know that we all are so please
anything
thank you
thank you Andy Mr Hale I believe that
you are up next
there we go yes um as you can see we
continue to perform better than budget
um
a few pages back or the notes that I
normally include I would just point out
there because income tax is kind of like
a broken record now always outperforming
um budget I forgot to update it it still
has January's note in there but uh we
are 500 almost 600 000 better than
budget
um for
for um February we're now up 874. I do
think we gave back a little bit in March
um I'm not sure about that
um
but overall the projected fund balance
is about a million dollars better than
what I thought it was going to be
um so for what I forecasted based on my
model so that's good there's other the
other variances I have written out there
that you might that I found you know to
be large in one explanation for if you
look over the report and find anything
else just let me know if you have
questions about it
um then we added for informational
purposes some charts that you saw just
before this
um just to see show how we're doing if
you want to scroll on up to the first
one mayor yep
just to show how we're doing
comparatively over the last few years we
have this one Revenue expense and then
other uses and transfers and the reason
what first triggered my
um decision to like shows some graphical
information is because
we uh Matt had asked me about big
deficits at the beginning of the year
and and they had gotten bigger but it's
kind of a good thing the deficits are
there in large part because if you look
down to the um other other uses and
transfers we've been able to transfer
money earlier in a year but anyway so
the first chart raised other questions
so I wanted to break down well what's
causing the increase in revenue and in
expenses so if the second chart that
you'll see the amount you can pause just
for a moment I'm sorry but just to to
make this more explicit I think what
you're saying when you're talking about
other uses and transfers for example we
are transferring more into the capital
fund more into the structure yes it's
showing this greater expense which is a
transfer out into these which is the
result is which is the result of good
things we now have the money to put some
money away in our Capital Improvement
fund our infrastructure development fund
pool
um pool replacement fund so then I
wanted to break down you know what was
driving the different increases in
income tax I didn't even put any of the
other categories of Revenue on because
they were so tiny they wouldn't even
show up on the chart so that pretty much
tells us what we depend on for a revenue
source and that is our income tax and uh
you can see it's been pretty steadily
growing
um and then the last chart it breaks
down your expenditures and you can see
the result enter other uses and
transfers not only have we done been
able to do
um transfers to like the Capital
Improvements fund and the infrastructure
development fund but I've also been able
to complete the transfers earlier in the
year which I like to get them done and
so we don't have a transfer hanging out
there that we're not anticipating in our
fund balance so
um so we'll try to include those I'd
like to include a monthly we'll see it
it doesn't just pop out so we'll see
what the time time level was to
reproduce those every month but we'll
give it to you at least quarterly
any questions any questions for Mr Hale
Mr God no God no this is lamke
um we tried a question about the grants
it says actual budgeted or actual coming
in was 2900 but we budgeted 121 000.
um
should that be 118 under or we not
collecting as much in grant money based
on timing of the year
we grants your revenue or expenses
that's under probably going to be under
it's under expenses sorry
um yeah that oh you know what that
should be a that's a a little faux paw
my part because I noticed that
anyway we're 118 000
worse than budget and I will fix that
um
I think what maybe we talked about this
so the from a revenue standpoint
um we're under budget by 14 000 from an
expense standpoint because we haven't
received all those monies in we haven't
granted those rights out so we're under
budget we're favorable from an expense
standpoint by 118. hey Monique
um what I do is that is one where I just
budget 112 because I have no idea when
the mayor is going to collect the grants
or when we're going to spend the grant
so I guess budget 112 it's not it's not
an easy monthly forecast to do so it can
it can get off but then usually
typically by the end of the year we're
much closer to being right on the next
year's a little different even still
because we have but built into this we
have the state capital Grant which is
350 000. we have the 500 000 special
Grant from the Community Foundation and
that's not going to come in until
probably end of the year at the earliest
it'll start to come in and then we have
the um
we have the police department has from
Ohio Department of Public Safety I think
240
000 or something in grant money so it's
a lot more than normal but none of those
Grant dollars have come in yet and I'll
likewise many of them have they haven't
been spent but they're kind of
reimbursement model so the income
usually Trails the expense we will still
like probably the income we've had so
far this year I I don't I haven't looked
at it but I know we've recently
submitted information on last year's
celebrations and events so those that
money is going to come in some of that
stuff Trails by a year you know before
it comes in
I was requested to skip every other word
but just so I can make you guys feel
comfortable like those normal
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I don't want to speak on behalf of
council but I'm sure I'm not the only
one that feels this way I really
appreciate the graphs and the historical
data along with that so we can see kind
of where we're at with year over year
um this is great too but the snapshot of
like the last four years five years
that's awesome so thank you well man
I've had those three charts and I
thought I should you know try try to
keep up a little he's known me for a
decade I think it was probably mostly
for me all I had was how boring numbers
and it just colors colors and graphs
great everyone take an Excel class maybe
maybe the next one we can get like
moving Graphics I mean then we just all
work yeah
hologram Graphics you know
is
uh the chief is currently at the
communications conference we spoke of
in Las Vegas however I was incorrect
that that conference he is attending on
his own time that is not the one that he
was looking for uh approval for so we
approved the trip that we didn't need to
approve uh which is the good news the
the better news is that the one that I
had uh intended to bring up is in
October in San Diego it is the
International Association of chief of
police conference uh the estimated cost
is around 3 500 for flight Hotel and
Conference attendance registration it is
all being paid for by a state state of
Ohio Grant but um we still need to get
Council Voice vote on that so I'll ask
for that for a second but I just wanted
to explain why the chief's not present
I'm happy to
answer any questions that I can answer
from his report and or refer them on uh
for for an answer Jess
I just wanted to highlight the Bexley
Ohio Emergency Management Facebook page
it mentions it's up and running I think
that's great
um
if you just letting you know people know
that that's in the report and that will
be accessible and I think that speaks to
what the chief
had signed up for us saying that we're
gonna have more social media presence
and
um bringing some things to his platform
that we have in the community yet so
it's great
I wanted to I wanted to share with you
guys the hot off the press
logo for the city of Bexley Emergency
Management Department there you go
iconography hand selected by Lieutenant
overlay you can do it with like they had
fire for police yeah
Oh you mean yeah do you want your
microphone on yeah all right
all right
um I'm going to move on to my update
okay so do we do we need to nominate
somebody to go to Las Vegas now then and
with the chief just to make sure that
he's since we approved that already oh
to Las Vegas oh yeah so I do need a
Voice vote to approve
the October trip to San Diego for the
International Association of chief of
police conference all right so we'll
make a motion to approve the uh where is
it now San Diego San Diego uh
yeah and then do we just say all in
favor you need a second I need a second
for that
second second by this Fireball all in
favor say aye aye all opposed same sign
all right thank you and we'll figure out
the person we're sending to Las Vegas
later
um one thing I wanted to highlight
before I got into this uh I'm thankful
to uh Natalie for reminding me via the
agenda of this but uh Fourth of July
parade route we did discuss at our last
celebrations and events team meeting
um
we had some residents in attendance
probably five or six residents I think
uh joined us uh we discussed
um our our feeling that we should
um move the route after after stops
talking about different options uh the
feeling of the group there that we
should uh move the route back to the
older slightly shorter route uh that
goes south to uh Mound as opposed to
Aster
um
understandably there were residents
along the older route that were quite
pleased with that concept uh residents
from the new route also were there
saying they enjoyed that but they also I
think it's fair to say Lorraine was
there as well and Brian was there that
they seemed to understand the logic and
it was a I think a fruitful conversation
um we told them the next step was that I
would come back to you all because this
is a sort of a a nebulous decentralized
decision uh that it's my recommendation
and and that we move it back to that
route that extends South to uh Mound
Street
um for a variety of reasons the most
compelling and important is that you
know we did have reports of people
suffering from health issues as a result
of the longer route who were walking and
or participating in the parade so it was
noted uh I think by a passionate
resident last year that our parade is
already among perhaps is the longest
Fourth of July parade in central Ohio
with the shorter route and the longer
route only exacerbates that so
we also discussed an option where we
changed the route every year so that
different residents always get exposures
to the parade
so
I said that uh I'll let someone else
have that that fun in the future that's
right
um but I do think it would be Equitable
that's that's actually not on the table
right now we're talking about the uh
we're talking about the shorter route so
that's that's our our general that's the
recommendation of the celebrations
events I will and administering the
parade take that recommendation unless
counsel has
uh compelling and passionate uh feelings
to the contrary that would sway that so
I wanted to give you guys an opportunity
to talk about that
comments here you gotta comments wise
choices
constant school is 663 you clear
um I'm in favor of whatever you choose
but I just want to throw something else
into the pot and that is by the time the
parade gets down to South Bexley a lot
of the Kennedy is gone perhaps on a leap
year you could choose to start it at
Havenwood park and go backwards oh
that's interesting or casting him and go
backwards whatever so that's that's a
great idea I will share to the Myriad of
listeners to this meeting online right
now that my Pro tip is that I divide my
candy into four bags for distribution so
that it every every section is kind of
timed so to make sure I'm not running
out of candy in South it's very wise of
you so I would share that with anything
thank you
it's an interesting idea a reverse
parade that's not a bad idea yeah no
well I mean Mrs Robinson
um I have to say
I was hoping that maybe it would be the
extended route
um simply because it Loops in other
families that wouldn't have been lived
in before I certainly understand having
been in many a parade that they get
exhausting and Fourth of July is hotter
than the blazes here so
um I understand the reason for not doing
it although I do have to say part of me
was kind of hoping that it would would
stay longer because it just feels like
it envelops more of the city
I totally understand
I also have a feeling you haven't been
on manure Duty before for the uh police
the horses
you don't know my history with parades
that's another story Miss Sun
I think um it is important to note the
uh safety of our children that are in
the parade and I know that many of us
have witnessed that on the longer route
our band members especially carrying
large instruments and the Heat and the
exhaustion
um I watched a lot of those kids having
to you know get into air conditioning
and trucks and so we do need to
definitely take that into consideration
um when we're looking at these routes so
I'm glad that we are
I agree with both Jen and Jess and then
say that I will represent a lot of
people in South Bexley near Mount who
really appreciated the chance to have
that parade come a little further into
those neighborhoods and then I would
recommend for a future time perhaps
maybe to extend that route and then
maybe keeping that in mind it may be in
the parade at a different place or so
that you don't necessarily lengthen the
parade by doing that but you do sort of
include that area in there as well
candy piece if you have kids with you
it's really hard for them not to throw
out a lot so you just have to hide some
of those bags that's what I've noticed
to so that when you're in different
areas of the community you pull out
fresh bags when they think they're out
rather than give the kids all the candy
at the exact same time
I don't I mean I don't want to give away
yeah I don't want to tell or tattle on
any of like the two council members that
I was with that kind of lost their minds
at times throwing out vast amounts of
candy right
okay anything else on the parade
okay good I feel thank you I appreciate
that uh we will be moving forward with
the the uh prior route uh going south to
Mound and I appreciate all the feedback
it's quite similar to I think as we've
talked about it over the past year what
we've heard so
um
I want to let you know that the city of
Columbus met with us a couple weeks ago
to give an update on the North Cassidy
project did I already yeah I don't think
I touched it uh north of the railroad
tracks up to seventh they are moving
forward with that they're in the
acquisition phase right now where
they're purchasing property it's going
to be widened
um not the street in general will not be
wider that will be in some turn lane
areas but it will allow for sidewalks
and uh on both sides a tree line and
trees so we're really excited about that
they also recently rewarded funding to
go north of seventh but not with the
same project they tried to do that
unsuccessfully a couple times it will be
a reduced scope it's going to be like a
multi-use path that continues North so
it's not going to be the full-on curbs
and uh everything else unfortunately but
at least it's something
um
the
gotta you're the products update here's
another one I'd love for you guys to put
your thinking caps on and think about we
received
an application recently for uh flower
beds in someone's front yard that would
really actually covered the pretty much
covered the entire front yard it
essentially looked kind of like a
miniature community garden and also went
in the city right of way and we informed
them that our current code actually does
call a raised flower bed unless it's
below six inches in height and accessory
structure believe it or not and is
prohibited in
um in the front yards that doesn't mean
there aren't they don't exist in the
city and so
you know as you could imagine as an
administrator it doesn't feel great to
go to somebody and be like that raised
flower bed that you installed in your
front yard is technically illegal in our
code
um the tree commission meanwhile has
been kind of on the hunt for this front
yard study group where they talk about
what are our standards in our front
yards so I wanted you to know there is
some like
conversation about that it would be
helpful
to me if you guys thought about that a
little bit and and understood that that
is is the regulation currently kind of
prohibits them is that okay do we want
them to be prohibited do we want to be
enforcing much on that
um you know this person that I was
telling you about did the right thing
they they applied for it and so they're
being told no
um and that puts us in a position where
we need to start enforcing ones that we
see obviously as you could imagine
because that applicant would be well
within their
rights and within reason to say well
wait a second this person did it here
and there in the other place so I think
there's probably
a reasonable
outcome of that discussion but I just
think like we need your help as
legislators to think through that
so when the Trade Commission kind of
looked at this do they sort of I I
assume they kind of Flesh this out a
little bit as they're like you know
better ways to do this or you know
whatever they're I'm trying to imagine
kind of like reading that like what
things could look like or whatever
I don't the trip commission hasn't
really gotten into raised flower beds a
ton they focus a little bit more on what
happens at corner Lots with fencing and
some playground equipment and some of
the things
and you know as you know they're quite
particular about the public the not the
public but the common spaces and
um this is you know this they've
mentioned this before but I don't think
that they have any concrete Concepts and
we could ask them about that it often
opens up a can of worms where it's like
you start talking about a flower bed and
next thing you know you're talking about
everything you could imagine in the
front yard yeah
um and some of and and their
commission's not united we tried to put
together a frontier study group and
there was some disagreement about what
we should be recommending what they
wanted to recommend back to city council
um
yeah and ARB would be another and it
could be kind of a joint conversation
um
the follow-up question is do they do
they have a do they have a like a report
that they put together on this or
anything like that that might be helpful
okay
there's five
it's just it's just the moment while you
all are thinking about it I want you to
remember that one person's idea of being
aesthetically pleasing and what another
person's idea it can be
totally different I mean there there are
places I know that you're allowed to
have
it seems like the whole front yard is a
bed and it's completely unattractive and
the pictures that this woman sent to us
I mean it's to me I would much rather
have that than
some of the other yards I've seen in the
front yard so I think we just have to be
really mindful of the fact that
people have different visions of what's
what's beautiful what's not and let me
tell you
hers is symmetrical and guess what I
love symmetrical things you know it
looks neat and tidy and orderly and you
know and I'm not a huge fan of there's a
place in North Bexley where
it's woman just absolutely loves nothing
but letting it go wild so that it looks
like you know so that it brings
butterflies and such and it's just
just I think we need to be careful about
that and and
you know I love the people
um that we have on our commissions to
help us guide us through those things
but at the same times we're the ones
that are elected officials and we are
the ones that are making legislation and
I think we need to be really mindful of
that so yeah and kind of a preview of
Coming Attractions the gist of the
conversation will generally be that the
front yard is this sort of common grass
area grass and trees that as you drive
down the street I'm kind of paraphrasing
what I hear at the tree commission that
you see this sort of uniform somewhat
uniform sort of open Green Space which
is this common green space with the
exception of you know landscape beds
closer to homes and in other contexts
that would be the general gist and so
that that is generally what you're going
to hear back which would
be you know contrary to the idea of
raised flower beds in the front yard I
just wanted
so to Lawrence point I think thinking
through that and where you think those
lines are is going to be important even
as you get those recommendations
um
I heard you guys like charts so I wanted
to show you we've started working our
annual report
and uh this is our infographic of last
year's safety statistics
so you you've been looking at that Excel
kind of spreadsheet over the past year
two of the police of the Chiefs updates
that kind of expresses the uh those
Trends in a more graphical uh
perspective one thing that really jumps
out obviously Chiefs talked about
business checks and you can see what a
radical change even in the three months
of 2022 doing those we've had enough
statistics
and generally it mirrors what we already
knew to be true which is generally our
property crimes our property crime is
down
um motor vehicle theft has led uh that
property crime which has been has been
up
and uh okay sorry I'm almost done I'm
sorry
um I also attached to the uh older
development briefing that we put
together for the Trinity Department site
um it's about a six page document I
think that covers zoning
um you're welcome uh zoning incentives
uh General
Concepts to keep in mind with
integration with adjacent uses and
um our review process so that is
attached for you uh to see we continue
to have developers meet with us
um just asking about basically
everything that's covered in this
document
um and we'll continue to do that until
April 11th when those rfps are either
capital
and that concludes my report those are
provided to people that are submitting
rfps this stuff anyone who's reached out
and expressed an interest in the site
um we have emailed this or handed them
copies of it
yeah I just want to make a comment that
um like just how much of an improvement
to our city I think these uh
on North Cassidy having Columbus do that
and also on Livingston
um I I just I think it's amazing how how
much that really helps us and helps them
uh you know all my life I've driven up
and down Cassidy there and and it's
scary sometimes to see pedestrians and
things you know on that road or whatever
and that goes up to the airport so I
know like when we joined city council
like I mean I know when I joined city
council I was like yeah I want to make
Livingston safer I don't want to make
Cassidy and then you find out why you
know you're pretty Limited in how you
can do that because you know they belong
to Columbus and all these things so I I
just think uh it's really fantastic that
we've been able to work with them to do
that and and that really the Improvement
to our city by having them do that and
those corridors is really I think
exceptional and to reiterate uh mayor
Ginther has been a strong advocate for
partnership so like you know early on he
stepped forward with the Cassidy project
he heard us
um if you'll remember I think he came to
a council Retreat we'd already been
talking about a little bit that was one
of our core topics so is Livingston and
he's
well the other remnants from that if
you'll Shadow memory it uh so it's he's
been a he's been a good partner uh to
work with yeah
all right I think we move on to the
consent agenda
all right on the consent agenda we have
the minutes from 3 7 23.
all right any questions or comments on
the consent agenda
also from the audience we extend that
opportunity for the consent agenda if
not I would make a motion to adopt the
consent agenda can I get a second second
second by Mr Klingler uh Mr McPeak Miss
viable yes Miss Robinson yes Miss Lemke
yes Miss odd yes Mr Marcelino yes Mr
cleanler yes and Mr Markham yes consent
agenda passes
all right under third readings yes
please we have a third reading of
ordinance 623 uh amending the official
zoning map
I'm sorry but the the title stops on
here or in 623 to amend the zoning of
certain Parcels in the city in order to
Zone the property at the southwest
corner of Sheridan Avenue and Main
Street here and further described as
mixed use commercial with the Main
Street District overlay into amend and
replace the officials on a map of the
city of Bexley Minister Klingler
I think we've given us in a fair time
tonight as if there are no more comments
or questions on this I will allow Mr
Klingler to make a motion on this for
his return engagement yes thank you I
will uh make a motion to table ordinance
6-2-3 and I will second that
um Mr McPeak can you uh
this Bible yes Miss Robinson yes Miss
lamke yes Miss odd yes Mr Marcelino yes
Mr Mark Mr Klingler yes and Mr Markham
Mr Klingler yes there was like slow down
a minute yeah you're Mr Klingler yes and
then you're Mr Marco okay are you
kidding me we've been swapping the rolls
and I can see how it confused you
because he was up here doing this
they're using him yeah all right all
right ordinance is tabled moving on to a
third reading of ordinance 7-23 to amend
the Zone zoning of certain Parcels in
the city in order to Zone oil property
located within Schneider Park is open
space and to amend and replace the
officials on a map of the city Bexley Mr
Klingler likewise if there are no more
comments or questions I will look to Mr
Klingler to take some action here uh
make a motion make a motion to table
ordinance 7-2-3 and I will also second
that
um motion to table ordinance 7-23 uh Mr
McPeak Miss Robinson
yes Mr Marcelino yes Miss Bible yes Mr
Markham yes yes Miss lamke yes Mr
Klingler yes coordinates 723's table
thank you
all right moving on to Second readings
we have a second reading of ordinance
8-23 in order an ordinance to
appropriate 7982 from the unencumbered
general fund to the building department
in 6428 from the Waterfront to the water
administration department for the
purpose of paying back Medicare taxes
for 2020 through 2022 Ms lamke thank you
attorney official um as you may recall
this was related to two employees that
were originally hired and then they
retired and then they were rehired
um but invert at least some Medicare
taxes needed to be withheld and were not
it looks like we have some proposed
amendments uh mayor Would You Walk us
through the proposed amendments please
I would love to walk you through the
proposed amendments of 0823
one second let me pull those up
under secretary yeah I'm with you okay
so that highlighted yeah I
I was aware of proposed amendments but I
have not actually analyzed them to tell
you the truth
7982-6428 so it looks like we have uh
two four four four from the Otters
Department uh being added to that and I
don't know if you know which what that
exactly has to do with so
um I I might recommend that we find out
exactly what that what that is
attributed to and get back to you guys
on a third reading we just amended it
then that's okay it sounds good any
questions from Council
All Right Moving On
first readings please
okay we have a first reading of
ordinance
9-23 to inordinate an ordinance to
establish the rate of pay for the police
department Communications technician at
31.86 per hour effective January 1st
2023.
thank you attorney official as indicated
in the ordinance there was a rate of pay
that was inadvertently not included in
the past pay ordinance and this is
needed to specify that pay rate which
would increase uh increase pay rate by
four percent increase
any questions from Council
all right
all right then we are on to First
reading of ordinance 10-23 in ordinance
to a man chapters
1060.09 in order to expand the ability
of residents to recirculate household
items Ms Bible
thank you this is
um very appropriately coming before us
right before Earth month and
um Arbor month because in the city of
Bexley we are Arboretum and so Earth
month and
you know uh Arbor month have to be a
month not just a day so uh anyway this
is very exciting because it it not only
is suggesting that we should reuse
repurpose
recycle but it's really asking us to do
what Elizabeth ellman says is really the
important R which is rethink
so we're rethinking about this ordinance
we're we're basically saying that you
don't have to have a permit to take
something from the curb that looks like
might be somebody else's trash but it's
going to be your treasure
um it's asking us as citizens who put
those things
that we believe somebody else might want
on our curb simply with a sign that says
free or please take or you can enjoy
some such a thing
um
so and uh and and it and it changes
um
changes and and B uh section 1B it
eliminates the fact that you had to be a
person of good character and you could
also you also had to pay a hundred
dollars to be allowed to haul things
away like that so
I think I have the general gist of it
anything else I'm missing mayor Kessler
just that that so that whole section be
not just good character but this was
written that was kind of what flags that
yeah it's not funny because we uh yeah
for reasons that don't need to be said
um I think we we do not
um Grant currently trash falling
licenses to my knowledge I'm still
getting to the bottom of that to make
sure there's not something I'm missing
um this was kind of designed for back
when we had our own trash collection
cities to collect trash
until 15 or 20 years ago I think
um 20 years ago so we added and or
contracted haulers on a that's Rumpke
right or or Innovative Organics or
whatever those are our contracted
haulers
um so technically our code is not really
kind of jived with what we do anyway for
quite a while and then B to my knowledge
we're not licensing separate haulers so
what would separate holders be like
maybe
the college hunks got junk or whatever
I'm not sure different folks who come up
and and remove items uh
you know I don't think we're licensing
though so I don't think we need to
license them so
um I am going to double check for our
next meeting just that we don't license
those on any level
um who does capitals
uh I think capital is Waste Management
because technically they should be like
under B that technically they should
probably be licensed
I agree we should get rid of it too I
don't think we're doing that right
that's why I think yeah I'm agreeing
with you I don't think we're doing any
of that stuff
it does seem to be focused on
residential but maybe that's just a day
either way I think
I don't think it's necessary and we're
gonna double check that uh
that's all
I've got uh any comments or questions
on this
there for you to take a look at and
think over
all right I guess we can move on all
right moving on to the first reading
ordinance 11-23 in ordinance to amend
chapter 289 land use strategy commission
and two appoint members of the to the
land use strategy commission Mr Klingler
thank you Mr Fishel
um
the title kind of says it all but the
mayor and I were um
I don't know speaking three months ago
four months ago about updating you know
we thought it was time to update our
land use strategy uh that was done
several years ago that document put
together by
a wonderful man uh who headed that up
the mayor himself as a council member
many years ago
um gave us the guy a good character he
gave us
it gave us the guiding vision of a lot
of what you see today and we felt it was
time to um update it so a um an
advertisement went out uh with
uh resumes or applications due back at
the end of February and um we've got
those and and we thought it was also a
good time to update the chapter because
there were some outdated in uh outdated
language so
mayor if you could scroll down and
highlight any of the uh the major
changes or anything you
yeah 289 actually so there's a chapter
of our code that calls for the Strategic
The Landing strategy to uh be
uh created
um it was amended once to make it clear
that that's also the plan for the Bexley
CAC
um this amends it to
after the experience of having creative
Landing strategy kind of more closely
tracked with what it actually is trying
to accomplish and also simplifies it was
very prescriptive it said like you could
have 11 to 15 members and they have to
be this and that and this is just more
in keeping kind of with how we would
normal normally convene in a point it
also had some dates uh like you have to
by this date and it was in July which is
weird because we're on recess so whoever
wrote that original 289 did not know
what they were doing
so this kind of just cleans it up and
and I didn't even do a change version
because it is different enough that a
change version would just would have
kind of been uh a hot mess to read
through but you can obviously check out
289 on the website
um and then the membership uh structure
as proposed
um would have Mr cleanler and I folk uh
function as co-chairs that are
non-voting so it would essentially be
facilitators we would facilitate the
public process
um and then the voting members
uh we have a really well-rounded group
of people with a diversity of
backgrounds that we will have you meet
in the next couple meetings for those
that you have not yet met
um but I think really bring a lot of
value to this commission
um
as you know we've budgeted for some
technical services in conjunction with
us but we're not going through like a
planner to to visit everyone that's
that's something we'll be doing
ourselves
um
happy to take any questions
yeah is the membership list Final on
this it is okay
hmm
and I note that everyone who put their
name forward is on this list actually we
had a really great group of people who
had volunteered to serve and also some
board and commission members to kind of
round it up
are for the course we always get good
ones
all right Mr officially you can take us
to the next
okay we have a first reading of
ordinance 12-23 an ordinance to amend
section 886 of the Bexley codified
ordinances in order to amend the Bexley
community reinvestment area program
I want to note
version on the agenda is actually the
older draft so
I will uh Natalie if you could hop on
the active ordinances folder and just
send to council this
the current draft
Matt do you want me to walk through this
or
yeah I'm sorry I forgot to mention Matt
Mr Klingler no that's that's so I was
gonna throw out to the mayor please okay
so this uh we haven't existing chapter
886 it adds a purpose Clause at the
beginning it adds definitions
definitions do not used to exist and as
you can tell they get a little more
technical with some of the
um some of the additional
I might be wrong Natalie that might
might have been the most current I'm I'm
sorry it's just that this is not there
we go I'll explain that to you mark but
uh there was just one comment so that
was that is current what's on the
website
um and then we we take
some some of the concept we've talked
about this residential new construction
incentives and we add this 80 6.11 which
the operative paragraph uh is this
paragraph right in front of you a i
Roman numeral one so for the duration of
the incentive that will be provided at a
minimum of 10 of the housing units that
are created need to be affordable at a
hundred percent of am I
our average median income for the region
and 10 would be affordable at 80 of Ami
this is a comparable program to what
Columbus has in
um in like areas such as the short north
um it is a great way for us to
incentivize some affordability into
projects
um this to be clear we are proposing
that we do away with
the current 70 abatement we have a
current 70 abatement on any residential
unit
um this would say that you don't get any
abatement unless you meet this criteria
we also have a 100 abatement program
today that does have an affordability
component but it's kind of accrued early
iteration of it talks about the cost of
construction
average cost of the unit this is a much
more targeted and and I think
appropriate
program it also tracks with what
Columbus is doing in development
Community has gotten quite comfortable
with it
um there are some Protections in here
for if the developer defaults there's
some penalties associated with that and
then I also want to highlight some other
proposed changes so while we're in this
section uh I'm proposing that
within North Cassidy Del Mar Drive
we eliminate the remodeling abatements
um the reason for that is quite frankly
the administration of it first off no
one's applied for the member despite the
fact it's been our website for 15 years
but the administration of that is just
incredibly tedious and it would be it's
it doesn't seem to be necessary because
no one's been applying for it
um so it just kind of streamlines It
also says if you're gonna if you're
gonna get any sort of abatement for a
new investment in commercial industrial
you have a minimum threshold so it's not
just like you know you put ten thousand
dollars in
so just trying to keep it powerful and
meaningful but not you know Nimble
enough that we could administer the
program
um you'll be surprised to know we don't
have a development department staffed
with uh you know 10 individuals
um same with the Southwest Bexley cra
um
changing it to uh changing some of those
standards Southwest specs is different
than North Cassidy because it is
targeting actually residential
investment as well
um and you'll note that this sentence
here is both in the Cassidy and
Southwest
basically that points people back to the
section of the code that provides for
that 100 abatement for multi-family uh
with some of those income criteria
the language in here is uh
to be clear it's totally pilferred from
Columbus so this is Columbus's language
uh we simplified it because Columbus has
a whole lot of other like they have
different tiers of of geographical areas
where let's say this is like this tier
this year this year with different
standards so it's streamlined and
simplified
but it's the same underlying concept and
some of the same underlying language
and if they can chime in so the way this
would work is that the way it would
currently work too is that if there is
an applicant who comes through the
administration and says I want a you
know I qualify and I want a tax
abatement of X that I would still have
to come here
for a resolution from Council approving
it and it could be up to
you disagree with me that's true of
commercial property
but Residential Properties by right in
series okay
I'm gonna take your word for that that's
not that's for our previous our those
for our Development Council but okay I I
need to check the CRA statutes on that
to make sure that that is the case
um and um also the schools have to be
notified as well for commercial not for
residential yeah okay we do though
anyway we we notify them but we don't
have the statutory obligation to do so
sorry not to disagree with you about it
no you might be right it's happened
before
what's that
I
will tell
them
so I'm gonna ask a dumb question here
it's okay if you can just tell me this
is a dumb question but so if we're going
to designate
that 10 have to be rented out to this
income level and 10 have to be run out
of this income level
how does that what's the mechanisms what
how does that translate into ensuring
that
it's going to be affordable housing
instead of putting people into the
housing that maybe that they can't
afford even if they fit those parameters
so affordable is by by Hud defined as 35
of your income so if you're at the
average income for the region
which I don't know that number the top
of my head what that household income is
but it would be a 30 you couldn't spend
more than 35 percent of that average
income on rent okay so the developer is
tracking or the owner you know whoever
owns the property during the term of
that abatement is tracking that 20 of
their units
have some sort of a subsidy essentially
and they're they're keeping track of
household income they're reporting that
back to the city
and they're showing what the rents are
and the rents can't exceed 35 okay that
householding the so that's built into
the right okay I can't exceed 35 of
household of income at the 80 Mark as
well okay that makes sense
and there's a penalty if they fail to do
that
um
they're financially penalized and or
they can lose the abatement
and have to reimburse too yeah
Columbus
one second when Columbus has some carve
outs that we didn't have I just left out
just so you know like they have some
carbots that if you have a certain
amount of Office Space
that you can basically buy out of having
this mix if you've done environmental
remediation you can buy out of having
this mix
um it seemed a very complicated and B
um kind of seem to dilute the concept so
I felt I left I left it simpler I just
wanted you to be aware of that Matt do
you have a question
yeah just kind of following up with what
Troy asked but who
um who would be
the person within the city to make sure
or enforce that you know the the
reporting that they're you know who
would be that so the housing officer
which is currently me
um I take reports from our current CRA
so like right now we're enforcing the
Gateway CRA we uh this month I was
sending out the reports that are due in
the coming weeks for their compliance I
take that information I report it to the
state of Ohio Department of development
I also
report it to What's called the tax
incentive review Council which is a
group made at the Turk which is made up
of
members we've appointed and also members
the county has appointed The Turk
reviews that information they vote to
approve it then you look at what the
Turk said and you vote to approve it so
it all be part of the same oversight
falls under the Turk CRA and the state
reporting
yeah I mean I can't imagine we would
have a a boom of
new development but I just didn't know
if it would add any burden to existing
staff or who would you know no advertent
but the burden will be so for example
gateway's got one more left on that
it'll be over
um Gateway is actually probably much
harder to administer than what we're
talking about because in this instance
we would be going to a developer or an
owner and saying here's what you need to
report back to us
we need copies of the leases your
household income vetting proof that you
have these rented you know to these
individuals and proof that you've done
this work it's a report they would have
to generate and get back to us whereas
with the commercial abatement it is
radically more complicated than that and
I can't wait till it's over
so it's just like because you're then
you're also income sharing with the
school district
you're going back to Rita and verifying
income there's a lot more verification
that has to occur that we would this
would put the onus on the developer in a
way that we can't in the same way with
commercial so I I'm
yeah it will be reporting requirement
it's not going to be inconsistent with
what we're already doing
are there I'm sorry any
we currently don't have any res do we
have any residential right now that we
do we have commercial we have
residential we have residential but they
don't have reported requirements other
than that our
are CRA Housing Council
tours those projects to confirm that
they are actually residential projects
the fact that their residential is
enough that's all that's required in our
current CRA so this adds an additional
burden for residential do they have to
comply with the new no they're kind of
Grandfather yeah they're they're their
development was created underneath the
old code this is for new residential
construction projects okay okay
other comments questions
if you have any
um
I mean if you have any reading or
stuff that you can pass on in the
meantime I would love to
do a little educating myself in the next
couple weeks on this yeah
thank you that'd be great and then when
you share that can you also just help us
understand how this
um
how these abatements will say impact
um I'll say the the city of actually
whether it's our financials or the
schools
um because I I just I'd like to
understand
um
again how that how that flows through to
the community yep I so the projects that
we have administered in the past I have
a tax productivity analysis that shows
what they were doing before yeah what
they do as abated and what they will do
when the abatements have expired and so
it also shows where it goes to all the
different entities okay so we can do
that it's a little older so I to update
it might take some time and or if you're
happy with some older analyzes that's
cool too I'm good with just conceptual
but in this sense first pass and I know
this this is more than just this project
but this is an example like I know you
know this is on our minds right now the
journey Apartment project it's a
tax-exempt parcel So currently it is not
at all tax productive
um
if it weren't tax exempt the the base
value so let's say it's worth six
million dollars today that base property
tax value is not available it still gets
paid
it's only the new additional tax value
that's generated by the development that
gets partially or fully abated depending
on how it works
and in this instance
let's say it's a mixed-use commercial
project which is what our good requires
the residential piece would potentially
be abated
the commercial piece would not
potentially be abated although there's a
lot of conversation about how that would
all structure so
with every project that we have seen
through the the pipeline in Bexley there
has been like a dramatic windfall of tax
revenue from the new development as you
can imagine both to us and the school
district and Ohio statute protects the
school district in a lot of ways they um
when it's a commercial abatement we have
to share those tax dollars with the
school district which is what's
happening at Gateway so they're
receiving some of our income tax monies
in addition to new property tax revenue
that they never had before but we can
show that and it certainly
um you know it's a perennial question is
like why would you provide an incentive
can the development Community do this
without an incentive and it's a it's a
valid super valid question and sometimes
it's kind of like you're playing a game
of chicken and egg like which you know
what's you know you're true you know the
development Community is very Savvy
they're used to incentives every
Community has a slightly different take
on it so the way that we view incentives
traditionally is it's a lever like how
can we lever this incentive to get the
type of project that's best for the
community and that's really actually
what the CRA is about
and when when a development comes
hopefully
next door they'll be talking about
probably structured parking and they'll
be saying hey would you know should we
have some public parking here would the
Tiff be able to help us out with that
that's the sort of stuff we talk about
like it's all open for negotiation
there's the overall economic impact and
also the Community Development impact
like how can we leverage these
incentives to bring a project that is
better for the community so that's my
philosophy
but all of that is subject to your
guys's oversight and approval as it
pertains to the individually negotiated
incentives
residential unless Mark finds something
to contrary is one that if you approve a
change to residential that's a program
that's in place and it's buy right so
within this District
you have direct currently by right on
Main Street you build one residential
unit you have a right for an abatement
that's another thing I'm going to talk
about this changes it to a minimum of
four units so today you could literally
remodel a space above a building and
turn it into one unit and get an
abatement
so this moves up that just a little bit
sorry
it seems like everywhere I go recently I
keep hearing all kinds of people in the
state and local level talking about the
number one problem
challenge that we are going to be facing
is housing
and I I can't stress to all of you how
important I feel it is that we make sure
that there are homes in our city if we
can find spots to put them
so that we can welcome people from all
different economic
capacities into our community because I
think that really helps us to build that
what we believe is a very inclusive
community it just it just will help us
more and more and more to be able to
teach the children that are already here
you know to broaden their
their scope on life and I just I think
that this is so exciting that you know
we are going to incentivize developers
to come and do that in our community
because I also think that I mean I say
this all the time that people want to be
like the cool kids but people do look to
Bexley to try to figure out what
bexley's doing yes we're copying
Columbus but somebody else is going to
feel the pressure to do some of the same
stuff in their communities too so
thank you for
putting this forward I think it's
fabulous
yeah so you know I mentioned that I met
with the president of uh Council over
Grandview Heights a few weeks ago and
she was just asking about this you know
what are you guys doing there what does
that look like and you know very
interested in seeing the formulas we
were putting together and and the ideas
for that I think a couple things there
what you said are pretty important which
is you know and people are maybe a
little cynical of abatements or or
whatever is that we've got you know
especially here a property that's not
generating taxable income right now and
so that's going to be a huge economic
impact for us uh even with with that
incentive and then to be able to guide
and and make sure that affordable
housing is a part of that I think it's
something that we talked about that the
Strategic Retreat that we feel is
important and I really think like
most communities that are you know in
this sort of position are are feeling
that too when you've seen the last
five years ten years or whatever the way
that the housing market has changed and
and how people have been pushed out you
know even people with you know
nice working class incomes whatever
being pushed out and that's that's
really rough that's not where we want to
be I don't think
okay
anything else any other
all right uh
I think we are moving on to tabled
ordinances and I feel like maybe
something's happening with a tabled
ordinance
I
understood that we are still and we
thought we did
um have some action on the table
ordinance surrounding Universal
um
recycling but we still are looking for
some updated
um prices right we have pricing oh we do
so do you want to take it off it's it's
not ready to amend right okay so I can
give like just a vague overview okay
which is that we have pricing um
theoretically came in uh I we haven't
done a deep dive there were two there
were two not folks but two companies
that bid on the RFP
um both RFP values are below the board
of control threshold but nonetheless
they're
um adequate for us to fill in the blanks
in the ordinance
um they seem uh feasible which is really
exciting um in terms of just
affordability for businesses but I we
need to do a little deeper dive and like
to meet with you and whoever else wants
to talk about it um before putting
putting that all out and having an
amended version but this is the
ordinance that we are all familiar with
so I would like for you once we get the
numbers in there's doesn't seem like I
mean if we just just really refresh our
brains between now and uh our next
meeting hopefully we could get this and
I'll try to get it circulated out in the
week so it's not like you know last
minute that would happen
where are where are we at on that one
how many readings has it had this is
this will be the third okay uh I think
at least yeah
we're ready
um nobody is allowed to comment or
question that that's correct
that's right
shut up all right uh we can move on to
the uh the chair reports and tonight we
are featuring Recreation of parks uh
just saw it
all right so just a quick reminder to
council um we are trying to lock down a
date to have lissandra
um Baker come and speak to us on
um some Dei training and planning so
I've heard from a few of you I'm trying
to walk down that date with her this by
this Friday so if everybody could just
get back to me with the
best dates out of those
um eight or nine that we sent out do you
want to stare at anybody tonight
that doodle is out there the doodle is
out there the doodle is out there
um not me yeah no worries
um but yeah if we can get it done by
Friday because from there we're going to
be doing
um a quick session of making sure we're
all on the same page of what that
training will be
and we just want to get that on the
books so
um that's first
um matter of business and then second is
just to remind everyone that upon us we
are ending march surprise surprise
and March went fast so
um Bravo is coming up very quickly it's
our biggest fundraiser for Bexley
schools so just wanted to remind the
group that that is Saturday April 22nd 7
to 11 at Valleydale Ballroom get your
tickets if you're able to attend if you
are not able to attend you can still
contribute this year they're doing
um best of Bexley a t-shirt designed by
homage love those t-shirts they're super
soft it's really fun it's on the Bravo
website they're thirty dollars and all
proceeds go towards the fundraiser so if
you can't make it to the event please
look at the T-shirt I think you guys
should all look great in it end of
reports and Jess what if you can't
attend but there's a lot of exciting
auction items you can still get on the
website yes can you yeah
absolutely and be you know remote and
still participate in Bravo which I could
see you and Patty really enjoying we've
we've purchased a few of those and not
many of them completely sober but yes
yes Matt just since you brought up
auction complete transparency at Council
and she brought up auction I was
wondering if um a round of four
um
of golf with President Markham is on the
auction is that is that is that what
you're saying you know what maybe it
will be on there that's not a bad idea
right okay
fantastic all right let's let's move on
to uh Monique lampke fresh off of
international waters
that's right uh just one quick
announcement this coming Thursday March
30th at 6 30 the Bexley Women's Club is
presenting their annual women's award
I'm pleased to tell you that our very
own lorianne feibel will be honored as
one of the recipients I think she was
genuinely surprised
but it's well deserved I also forgot to
tell her that I had nominated her so
sorry not sorry
um and also Elizabeth ellman uh was will
also be another recipient so I invite
all of you if you can come to that and
support these two extraordinary women
and a report thank you very much Mr
Marcelino safety and health nothing
thank you
so quiet over there tonight he has been
quiet it's very tense tonight intense
Jen Robinson the Strategic committee I
feel like I have to say something very
quick and windy after that a no report
for me but I do want to wish those of
you who celebrate a very wonderful
joyous and meaningful Passover uh which
is next Wednesday
um and that's it excellent thank you
uh back to Mr Klingler uh just one quick
thing our hard-working resident uh Mr
Lee Nathans reached out to me today to
give me an update on some really great
work he's doing with AED and AED
awareness and studying sudden Cardiac
Arrest awareness so um he's trying to
partner with the city partner with City
Columbus Bexley City schools with a lot
of people and he's doing a lot of hard
work so
um look out for news from him and and
let's try to support him as best we can
that's a great program and I think at
some point he will be here to present
information on that those are the
machines that you have that save lives
like right away have a heart attack or
whatever and we had some practice using
those with the Citizen Police Academy I
just love that program because it's just
like I mean you're gonna save some lives
by doing that and I'm at that age where
I really would like my life saved if
something like that happens you know and
you'll be happy
thank you
and St Charles got a great award and a
large Banner because if you go in there
they've proven that they have an AED
within three minutes
um and the entire episode I think it's
like eight or nine but yeah the whole
test and um that was was pretty great so
exciting that's awesome
yeah yeah they did the whole big uh
presentator I guess they had to prove
prove that they could do it so they did
it Banner yeah
drop Mike hey that's fine
there are men of good character over
there so
back to Lori and Fievel with service and
environmental uh yes Happy Passover
happy Easter Happy Spring it's daylight
we're going to leave and it's going to
be daylight maybe maybe I I did email
you
um the Eco challenge please be a part of
Team Bexley we are not only celebrating
um Passover and Easter and spring we are
celebrating Arbor Day and Earth Day
um put
422 on your calendars please come join
me at Snyder Park
um where there's going to be lots of
exciting green activities which is
ironic because why is it ironic talk
about making lemon out of lemonade or
lemonade add lemons oh sorry other way
around
oh
a landfill and we're gonna go celebrate
being green
and we're gonna have we have a trash
pickup that morning all right yeah and
then we have a walk and talk in the Park
it's a full day and uh please check out
um uh Bexley
uhgreen.org greenvexley.org
um and look at um some of the exciting
things that are happening uh this next
month including trash talks with the
mayor There's A Sign Up Genius on that
that's all I've got so Lori and five
will green activities on 422. we've got
that in the record the future
guests at any Trash talks coming up so
let me know I'm in I'm in for a
broadcast you farm-wide yeah I'm in
rewind
you're welcome I didn't notice that
thanks to staff for helping me with all
of these things it's good at this time
we extend the invitation for public
comments
oh come on really after all that
pretty good yeah we're Brian Drew we go
it's a big column
um Mr President right after this week
border control after this for uh the
lucky few of us uh I will take a motion
to adjourn so much wait wait wait wait
wait wait sorry one more thing I'm so
sorry
I wrote it down but I want to double
triple cover this
our ordinance says if we have less than
three bids that we let you know we have
we had two bids on our Commonwealth Park
Pond however it was also formally bid
through the bid process so I don't think
that even applies necessarily but out of
out of a preponderance of caution I'm
letting you know that we are considering
two bits to another word control well
plus Matt and I are putting in a bid to
do it with the Bobcat
thank you mayor uh somebody seconded the
motion all in favor say aye aye opposed
same sign good night everybody thank you
all right I would like to call the uh
Tuesday March 28th
um
Board of control media order
um so uh on today's agenda we first have
our Board of control
meeting minutes but before I do that let
me
formally call our uh roll call Mr McPeak
present Mr Markham here
and Mr Kessler that's myself
um review minutes we have minutes from
March 20 March 7th 2023 meeting expertly
prepared by the professional Ms Natalie
Vater
professional the superlative
uh
I have had a chance to go through them
in depth world famous I assume you all
did it as well does anybody have any
concerns or questions on the minutes
no concerns do I hear a motion to
approve the minutes I so move I'll
Second That Emotion has been made and
seconded all any discussion on favor say
aye aye for the same sign substantials
motion passes
um Natalie would you mind do we have a
printout of this that we can sign just
so that they're
signed off on
it
okay that's cool
I will
print that as well
okay uh next on our agenda we have a
review of proposals for the Commonwealth
Pond invitation to bid this properly
this this project was dually bid I want
to thank Natalie again and Elena Andrews
both of whom worked in concert to
bid this project uh one thing that's
been kind of cool coming out of the year
the parks projects is we become quite
Adept at bidding on our own which is
saving us a lot of money and also making
the process more fluid so thank you
Natalie for your help on that
um we received two bids
um one from Risner Dirt Works in
construction for 351 000 232
one from Castel productions for 306
thousand dollars uh those bids were
examined by our landscape architect and
our staff consultant Who provided a
letter of recommendation to the board of
control for the award of the bid to
Costello Productions LLC for 306 000
believe into the lowest and best bid
um this bidder has substantial
experience in pond construction
um and is well equipped to perform the
project so
if there any questions just a sort of
the general can you tell me what that
project yeah what's going on with it
that's a great question so um
trying to think if I can readily pull
this up I think I can
uh
let's see if it's still it's not there
it's not there anymore but what is here
is
hopefully the graphic that I can pull up
um so this is part of our year of the
parks project
and
it is the pond portion of the Arboretum
and Botanical Gardens at Commonwealth
Park
so in this bit is the um
is the is the pond itself uh it does not
include the Landscaping it does not
include the bridge that is a separate
scope it does include the um the tree
island
um and the container for it
um it includes the Mechanicals which
will filter and provide oxygen to the
pond
it includes the uh all the the pond
itself has a substantial amount of
Hardscape around it and inside of it in
order to provide Stone Ledges and
um
the uh The Continuous rubber
super thick liner that's going to go in
to keep the water in place
the connection to the city's water
system the city is assisting by removing
the soil off site so we will be
providing the dump trucks and the
transportation for that soil which has
helped reduce the project cost we think
by about thirty thousand dollars
um
what are those little uh peanut things
in my life those are stepping stones and
that's part of the scope as well so
those are Stepping Stones it's kind of a
very shallow waiting area it's about 18
inches in depth
um to the section to the west of the
bridge it gets as deep as five feet
uh around the like the tree Island
and the but the little Stepping Stones
it's just like a few inches deep is that
what's going on there yeah so it's
designed to be interactive um even the
area where it gets deeper it steps down
so it's not like you would you wouldn't
like fall off of a sacked ledge it's it
stair steps with large Stone Ledges
inside of that to provide like if you
know if anybody did get in the pond they
could easily get out
um
it's similar and what's good
characteristic to to water features that
you would see it um
you know German Village or Victorian
Village Parks so I was thinking of
Mirror Lake
well the old Mirror Lake
it seems like most of the
man-made ponds that I can think of in
this city
have failed like after recently going in
so whether it's Goodale Park
um
or
Franklin Park I think that they had some
some issues and then I even think
they've had to read it whether it's
applicable or not the Bicentennial Park
so long story made short is
do these get is there warranty or what
what is in place so that if there is a
failure Within
I'm making you know some period of time
that we are not on the hook to repair
their
you know and again I'm sure this is all
difficult and subjective because of land
movement and all that stuff but I guess
I'm just I'm I'm mindful of the um
ongoing costs that we might have to
maintain this and I would just want to
make sure that from a contract
standpoint that we have
language that that warranties us for a
period of time and I don't know if
that's possible
or if it's been asked I I don't know but
that that's that is a concern of mine
it's just that the cost of ownership and
making sure that we do everything we can
at at the time of contract to to get
something in place that
helps mitigate that that risk yeah
um I I can inquire as to that see right
now if the before okay skip architect
can talk about it real quickly
um
I will tell you that
Elena are you free to to answer some
border control questions
walking your dog is a great way to be
focused and unfocused at the same time
put her on video okay so um the question
was being asked by our auditor Matt
McPeak if um just kind of observing
ponds that have failed in the region
um I will editorialize and note that
those work ex with the exception of
Bicentennial which is you know a splash
feature it's very complicated
um those are way after the data
construction okay
um but the question was is there any
sort of a guarantee or a warranty on the
uh on the pond I know we did talk about
this a little bit but I didn't want to
misrepresent what you said
uh I mean I think there's probably a
warranty on the the pump as like a kind
of a standard mechanics warranty
um but the more
like how it's actually functioning I can
certainly reach out to Tom and ask them
to clarify that
I think that he had mentioned that if
there's a leak the in the liner that
would be detected and repaired
immediately so there has to be a period
of time for that and then also the
material itself probably has a
manufacturer's warranty so we could we
could probably find those things out at
least too because so the the the
aspects of this prone to failure would
be the liner obviously yeah um pump
equipment which is a project cost this
is not a super complicated system it
wouldn't be massive to repair or replace
um yeah I think that like we actually
literally had this conversation this
morning about the splash feature at the
plaza Capital which is like you know
we're opting for a simpler system over
there because you know the more
complicated you get the more prone the
more things can break this is a
mechanically fairly simple Pond but it
does have mechanics
to do is during the fall we just need to
make sure that the staff knows that
daily they need to go out and clean out
the
um the filter that's going to be
collecting leaves because the intent is
that we're going to be running enough
water flow throughout the pond to keep
enough movement so that a mosquitoes
don't get there and the leaves don't
gather and go to the bottom and then
make everything Mucky and gross
and Mucky and gross is the technical
term right yeah
it's miserable yeah yeah there's there's
like tons of books on about it I can
send you links and websites it's
fantastic
so um maybe an appropriate motion would
be to approve the contract subject to uh
warranty information be included in the
contract that is you know
reasonable and within
Standard Market Norms yeah right
does that work yeah yeah I have a member
of the public that would like to comment
needs any greasing your seals changed
out the first year but
um like preventative maintenance I'll
say or
quarterly means this is a two horsepower
pump so this is like this is comparable
honestly to a hot hot tub right in terms
of it but it's on us to take care of the
person yes
and our staff is is
uh Grant was part of the meeting with
this uh contractor with the designer it
was uh discussed what it would require
there doesn't seem to be concerning
staff's part the maintenance is yeah
owners when we call this uh go ahead
I was going to take Spencer as the
arborist who kind of will be kind of
walking and taking care of Commonwealth
and currently is doing that
um it would be his responsibility to do
that during the fall
we call this a pond it doesn't have
vegetation in it right
or does it
no it
education it could have vegetation if we
decide to in the future we are
definitely planning on potentially
having fish
um so there'll be some kind of Aquatic
Life but good competition no matter what
yes I mean so this is like uh goldfish
it's like the uh
cement Pond that The Beverly Hillbillies
had
well I mean actually that's a great
Point like Goodale Park is a cement Pond
this is not I mean there's a from an
installation perspective this is a
simpler install it's
um
you know based upon extensive experience
with this designer
um
I'm I can't guarant none of us could
guarantee it for life I know the issue
with
uh Franklin Park had to do with a pretty
complicated pump system I believe that
was not able to be excavated like that
easily so I mean I
no one can guarantee it for life but I
think that um we've done Elena
specifically did a lot of work finding a
designer that would be able to put
together a design that was you know
competent and capable
you scoured the country
oh my God
it really did it took it took so long
that and uh that and splash pads you're
you're an expert in things you did not
think you would be
this is true
yeah nothing could go wrong
any other questions
thank you Alan I appreciate the
impromptu phone call
okay my pleasure all right thanks
uh anything else anything further
discussed
uh forever
with that is there a motion to accept
the any anymore is there a motion it
would entertain emotion motion to accept
the bid from Costello Productions motion
has been made by Mr Markham
we'll second that motion seconded by Mr
McPeak uh any further discussion
discussion from the audience
okay all in favor say aye aye aye
opposed same sign abstentions motion
passes
um with that I believe that we have uh
any old business and a new business I do
want you guys to know from new business
perspective we do have
um some bids that we have posted rfps
let me see just to give you guys a feel
for coming attractions
um skatepark is a design RFP so we'll
probably not come through here because
if it's just the lower threshold Human
Resources contract
may come to the border control depending
on what the uh overall value of that is
on the skate park yep
um is that
so we'll pay for design fees
that would ultimately help us determine
the total cost which would then in turn
help us determine if we're going to do
it or not right part of that though
we'll be looking at so we'll look at
those quotes and right now like the one
that's come in is like eleven thousand
dollars or something
um and we'll go back to the contractor
that we want to work with and we'll say
hey based upon what you know about this
site what are some of the like cost
ranges we think we kind of know because
we've looked at other projects
throughout the country so we have a
general field that's potentially within
budget
um so they'll just give us a range and
if we feel comfortable that that's
within a fundable amount then we will
move forward with the design the design
will give us a better feel for cost uh
we wouldn't move to construction
documents until we were comfortable okay
that's like the next next I think
instruction documents were like another
9 000 with the one that we were looking
at okay
so Human Resources contract and social
service support contract both may come
to border control just wanted to be
aware that those are posted right now
all right any other new business yes
with public comment
yeah
so far it's Duo like yeah
it's to tomorrow yeah
I don't think we're even
yeah
we're hoping I think he said he's had
five interested parties I would imagine
we're gonna get
some good quotes
texting off your skateboard you're gonna
be gnarly yeah
yeah all right uh motion to adjourn
so moved seconded second all in favor
aye adjourned excellent meeting all
right thank you Board of control uh look
for