very few people coming tonight it's us
plus Dave Wakeman if he comes so we're a
very small group but we have a quorum oh
it's you congratulations thank you so
much it was hard and guess and guess
we'll get to Great
okay so um
I'm not sure
when you have a favorite anyone who's
using our agenda system
I wanted to show you real quickly if
you're on this page or it says meeting
agendas page on your iPad
did you have your iPad up Mary yeah or
whatever if you want to just note it on
that page there's a quick link right
here quickly you can do this there's
three conventions
you click on that
and then in theory
all of the good stuff is there
looks like there's not a ton a ton of
hands no that's good
okay nothing wrong with that
so Juliana Sprint do you have access to
let's go with that
like to call the January 18th 2023
meeting at the Bexley Community Public
Gardens commission to order and call the
role of the few the proud that are with
us today Jim Wilson Vice chair
present Mary McMahon Linda zubnick here
Susan quintense here we have a quorum
also with us today our mayor Ben Kessler
staff consultant Elena Andrews and
assistant service director and urban
Forester Grant Archer
um Celeste is you may remember for the
last time is that the pre-commissioned
academy in Northwest uh Ohio uh two-day
seminar and uh she'll be reporting back
how it is and uh we also have some
people who are just unavailable
I will mention that according to the
zoom rules
um people are no longer able to
participate via Zoom
um I think we're working through their
attendance or their observation through
just visual interaction but we were a
little unclear on that so we'll have
that in place by February
um I will look for approval of our
minutes of December 19 2022.
is there a second
is there any discussion
emotions made and seconded that we
proved the minutes of December 19 2022
as emailed all those in favor say aye
all the supposed same sign okay motion
carries so I'd like to just introduce
our guests for today we have two uh
women who are students at Ohio State who
are observing we have Sabrine and
Jillian they are both taking a public
administration class or public policy
public affairs and both have minors one
is minoring in ecology
Adrian she's majoring in a cup major in
ecology
okay and
and political science so
um they made their way to Bexley on
public transportation
yes and when they looked and they needed
to stay for the entire meeting
and then they have to write a three-page
report on the meeting
so any of us would be available for
consultation after the meeting or by
email if you need us so yes so we
welcome we welcome you
are there any additions to the agenda
if not we'll move along for our
announcements and small victories I
wanted to share with you the great news
about the end of year total for uh the
Bexley beautification fund which is
fifty four thousand dollars
fifty four thousand fifty eight dollars
that's about forty five hundred dollars
more than last year's total and
um while the tree commission and the
Bexley beautification fund are not tied
the work they do
influences the work that we can do and
also I think as we've said before to
Grant and Ellen and the mayor
when your total hire must mean that the
residents are happier
so thank you thank you for that
um Mary had a very successful garden
program at the Bexley library today so
we'd like to put that on Note Mary if
you'd like to just give a 30-second
synopsis
can you hit your microphones that's okay
Dr Alice Jones is a professor at Eastern
Kentucky University and she has uh
created a one-woman play about the brown
sisters who were
botanists I guess back in the turn of
the 20th century and um so she came up
and presented it to a large group today
at the library and it was a lot of fun
so very educational very informative and
uh very nice so Mary do you want to talk
about the next program in February
although we will be there
uh save the date save the date right
February 22nd we're going to present uh
Chris Allen who's going to do a program
um based on his book this guy to Ohio
trees and he's going to speak about 10
trees
um why we should plant them based on
climate change and that sort of thing so
um it's collaboration with Heritage
Gardens Bexley Bloomers uh Bexley
community garden Bexley tree and public
uh Parks Public Gardens commissions
commission and I know there's one other
one in there
well we look for we look forward to that
yes yeah thanks and then um our Arbor
Day Arbor month celebrations committee
met a couple weeks ago and uh I really
like this committee because everybody on
the committee has a job that they can do
independent of everybody else so there
aren't multiple meetings and
um I forgot during that meeting to tell
Linda subnick what she's doing but we'll
do that later today so that's good
that's good and Jim mentioned that we
should talk about what meeting date we
want in December so we're not meeting on
Wednesday December 20th right before
Christmas so that we get the city
council chambers so Monday the 18th we
had our meeting this year on Monday
December 19th we had 100 participation
so it made me think maybe Monday
December 18th is a good day
that makes sense I can check with the
calendar the city to make sure that
they're okay that'd be great great and
Grant do you know if you're in that day
that's the week before Christmas
um okay
you think so
okay but
maybe your wife would be taken care of
them on a Monday
okay
maybe we'll have to make an offer to her
okay all right we'll hold that out uh
and uh as we think about December we had
a chance to recognize a lot of people
and thank them for their work but
Eleanor wasn't here and so I do have
your card for you Elena and uh you know
a sentiment that we couldn't do what we
do without you thank you and we
appreciate the professionalism you bring
and every year we're getting older wiser
and better so thank you thank you thank
you I I had a follow-up on our dates did
we decide formally to not meet in July
and instead take August off is that
correct we're not meeting in July and
we're meeting in August so we kind of we
flipped those to make our calendar More
symmetrical with City consoles I want to
make sure
although there's one commission that
doesn't meet in December I think that it
may be a ARB or bzap one of those
doesn't mean yeah it's summer so do uh
anything else under announcements or
small victories okay so now we can do
requests from our residents and we have
only our guests today so we're good with
that and now we can go to Elena and your
staff report on timeline for completion
of approved projects already so one of
the things that um has been coming up is
we will approve a project and there's
really not a timeline that is associated
with that project right so then we don't
necessarily have anything that we can go
back to to the applicants to say hey we
approve this 10 years ago maybe it's
time for you to actually install your
landscape now obviously that's a gross
exaggeration but if you guys recall
there is the um we have the findings of
fact sheets so when we approve a project
we say it's approved it's approved with
conditions or it's not approved one
thing that we thought that we should do
is
um as either as part of the verbiage
um or somewhere within that document is
to have a statement that says that the
landscape must be installed within
within one year of approval or within
one year of temporary occupancy issued
by the city of Bexley unless otherwise
stated
the reason for that is if it is just a
planting in a right-of-way right and
someone has a small wall they've got a
year to do it that's fine if it is a new
build which we are seeing more and more
of we're not sure where things are going
to be in the construction process if
there's going to be a delay but usually
the city will issue a temporary
occupancy saying that the people can
move in at that point but they won't
issue a final permit until everything is
installed including that landscape and
so we were thinking that if we could say
hey you have a year after your temporary
occupancy because they should be 90 95
done you've got a a year which is a full
season no matter where they have it they
have to fall or the spring or the summer
to install it
um
that at least we have that that we can
go back to them now obviously exceptions
might arise or things like that but we
were thinking that having some kind of
verbage on that
um would actually allow have the
applicants know that we are going to be
following up and that it is not just an
open-ended process now if this is
something that the tree commission is is
good for what I'd love to do is then go
and meet and talk with Kathy Rose and be
like hey are you okay with that and then
if they're good with that I'm meeting
with her and Karen tomorrow for our
monthly meeting
um then the following month I can revise
our kind of our staff approval and put
it on there and then we can kind of do a
a formal you know kind of issuance do we
want so I wanted to get if that language
sounds right
Jim you know kind of that might be you
might be the best person to
kind of comment on it but we just wanted
to bring that up to the members to see
what you guys thought on that
so Jim since Eleanor already called you
out do you want to react to the
narrative sure I mean I um
it's useful to add that to our approvals
both because it sets a Time by which we
can follow up to make sure that what
we've approved was actually done and it
also I think gives homeowners uh
guidance as to what's expected
um you know and I think we can you know
we can always uh provide that you know
if there are unforeseen circumstances
they can come back to the commission
through staff and let us know that
because of something they didn't foresee
they couldn't complete it within a year
although I think that's going to be a
very rare occasion
and I assumed most of our applicants
actually want their Landscaping to be
installed right
Mary Linda
no I would agree as long as you know
there's the opportunity in the event
that they can't you know get it
installed within that one year that
there's you know a way to work with them
in order to do that right should I add
something
um I can add a statement in there about
um
extensions
contact staff or contact the city for
extensions if needed or is that
something that we can just say when
we're
if the person can't do it we can be like
hey that's fine they do that you know
one of the reasons to do this is to
um take the onus off the staff to police
everything or to come back but to have
it clear up front yeah and so I my sense
is the more
opportunities for different courses of
action the more time it's going to take
on staff's part to figure that out
so leave that off because my concern is
that if we have that on there they'll be
like oh then we can just call the city
and be like sorry but if you know I mean
obviously they can if a tree falls on a
person's house during construction
things might be extended right right
um okay
got a question I mean I think a year is
certainly very generous you know you
six months even is probably certainly
within a time frame that if it's
something's constructed in January you
can have it in by June you know by June
you can get it in before October
um
but is there a condition that now exists
that approval of the landscape or has to
be done for a permanent occupancy permit
is there something we talked about that
that is has happened for the new builds
so we are holding people's final
occupancy pending the um the
installation of the landscape
um and so and the reason why it's a year
is
it depends on when that temporary
occupancy is issued if it's you know and
and just in terms of availability of
plants it gives people a little bit more
wiggle room to be able to sort of say
hey if it's approved in March and or say
it's approved in November they're not
going to have anything until either the
spring or the following year or the fall
depending on plant material so that's
why we decided let's give them Four
Seasons so they can say okay you've got
a spring dig and a fall dig it's going
to fall within that at some point to be
able to move forward
so
um I I would say to move forward with
the language if you want Jim to review
the language okay
um I I'm not I don't think we need a
motion to put that on the
application unless Jim feels we do I
think we could just approve the language
next month I don't think we need a
motion for me yeah right yeah okay okay
perfect okay is that okay with Linda
Mary okay all right
um and then uh okay so we did that and
as I think you know Chief Lewis will
join us when he um returns to this part
of the of Central Ohio after meeting
today in London or Springfield or
somewhere else
so mayor we are moving rapidly to your
report
and I and I think were you I I think you
were here when I had a chance to
introduce Jillian and Sabrine so that so
so that you know the mayor of Bexley is
not presenting his report which covers
um many things in addition to what uh
tree commission focuses on so here he
goes there you go
it's it's as exciting as it sounds
it's more exciting than
those Empire updates for you of the
parks the Havenwood Park refresh is
almost completed I think with
installation Hardscape is in
most of the landscape is in I think we
have a little bit more landscape to go
in right before the spring is that right
um
so feel free to obviously check that out
and see how that's coming along I'm by
the way I'm sorry about this screen that
keeps flashing up I I asked the guy the
guys who were here to fix the system to
look at it clearly and fix it
um Commonwealth Plaza we are awarding a
design contract to mksk and Jones
architecture to help us complete the
portion of that portion of the plan and
if if uh I don't have an exhibit in
front of me but the if you can picture
the Commonwealth Park plan
that's the section that brings together
the East and West sides along Columbia
so I'll have medians it'll have the two
pergolas the Plaza that's kind of raised
at the grade of the sidewalk coming
across the street
um
the library's reading Garden
we're called the reading Garden outdoor
reading room I like reading but I like
reading Garden too don't you say that
and I was going to ask people I thought
it was always the reading card well of
course it's the reading Garden that's
what we've always been calling it yeah
well you know the library's about
reading is it not Mr Wilson and the
synagogue
we're careful to point out it's a it is
a especially a combined effort on land
so we have to be cautious about that so
reading Garden has gone through a public
Workshop there's a refined plan that's
being presented to the library board and
to the synagogue board I believe both
this month yes and we're not this month
it's not on the agenda I got for the
library board tomorrow I think Ben is
going to try to squeeze Us in oh uh-oh
there's more control over the library
more than he does
well I'll let you guys Duke that one out
yeah isn't that nice that you don't have
to worry about that yeah soon it will at
which point in time um we expected to
come to you guys for some review and
comment
um 1876 Plaza is we're working on the
easement for that so that it can be
finalized in terms of legal approvals
um dog park is uh under construction
Grant says you'll have it done next week
is that right no but we still are aiming
for by the spring right grant yes okay
Schneider we had a really good a good
walk this week uh looking at some punch
list items including getting the columns
up at the trailhead uh doing some more
design work to get the staircase back in
at Aster and uh plantings refreshed
along the trail and um the old existed
the the Historic Trail the asphalt Trail
I guess I should say a site furnishings
and that sort of thing so we're going to
plan for that Splash Pad Splash Pad at
the uh at the picnic shelter is laid out
and in fact if you want to take a look
at it it's um roughly
it's going to be toned after the on our
on-site visit but the rough dimensions
are on spray painted on the grass next
to the
um next to the shelter house you can
check it out
um
and we're looking at um I saw the link
you sent me last night by the way the
tick tock that's good we're looking at
it that's this is on point okay so it's
not on point but it is we're looking at
the idea of a um so one of the one of
the things we've had
High School and Middle School uh
particularly boys ask ask us for for
many many years Mike Price gets
petitioned for this all the time is it
some sort of skate park Improvement in
Bexley and if you'll recall I don't
remember this but back in the 90s maybe
early 2000s there were skate ramps at
City Hall and also at the pool parking
lot that got kind of moved around I
think
um so
and that's not really that ideal and so
we've really mauled over like where
could those possibly go we had an idea
that
um there's
there's land to the west of the asphalt
Trail at Schneider as you kind of come
north of the fields
um there's an old
very small playground that the city
installed there many years ago
um there's probably what a hundred feet
or so between that trail and the
property line and so we're wondering if
there's an idea of like almost like a
skate obstacle course like that goes
sort of parallel to the trail for a
little bit that kids could use and so
we're just studying the idea of that
um
and were there some examples on Tic Tac
OS there was actually it kind of so
so it's like a dirty word now right I
know right um there was so yeah I was
using my government issued phone but
yeah
video in case someone was wondering
um so we have the there's the the newly
repaved asphalt path
connects the gardens up to
um the sledding hill but we had talked
about if the skate park does go there we
would probably want to try to find an
alternate path that kind of looped up
and around so that people have a little
bit more options and so because we know
that a lot of elderly residents live in
that area and use that Park daily
walking up and down and I saw I saw a
tick tock last night sorry for adding
you on the whole Tick Tock I mean it
should have been in addition to the
agenda right open it up I'll find it um
it was it had an asphalt path but it was
undulating and so they had artificially
created these kind of like bumps and
hills and it just kind of went around I
was like that actually looked really
cool it would be very easy to do
um and it would just give someone
something a little bit more fun than
rather than having definitely like a
half pipe and rails and certain things
that we're looking at it's just
something that might be kind of a fun
Whimsical feature that could be done
just within the landscape that's you
know relatively inexpensive and so I was
like I was scrolling through last night
and I was like I'm sending this to Ben
so I one of the aspects of that location
that I like is that it's very visible
and
um I I know when I have visited skate
parks and in aspened that there are many
older people that come to watch the kids
skate wait you you used you used skate
parks in Aspen I didn't use them but I
came when I came with my kids no when I
could caution you because I've tried to
join no no like almost killed myself
right but but it it would it surprised
me what a magnet it is
that older people especially thought how
did the kids do this what what is
happening and so the fact that it sort
of parallels there I I think would be a
nice addition because the kids really
like to show off yeah and so it's
pleasing to both populations that's fair
I think and I mean I've visited around
central uh We've looked at it we
actually did an on-site a couple weeks
ago to look at kahanas because it has
some portability maybe we thought we
could
do a seasonal sort of thing somewhere
um which we don't think would really
work that well actually but um
nonetheless dublins is located right
next to their pickleball courts so
there's like this multi-generational
aspect which is really nice and we're
hoping to see is there some way we could
maybe even have seasonal ones near the
tennis courts and pickleball courts at
Jeffrey it doesn't they're just
physically not like any any location
that would really work for that
um so anyway we're going to explore that
a little bit um that's been on our radar
and it was a this is like an 11th Hour
could this work sort of thing well mayor
your medians on Main Street we're 11th
power and they were great so I thank you
we're okay yeah where's the Broad Street
ones were very well planned and they've
well that's why that's why the place
cheapest is coming today
I bet
um
so intersection of Astor with Schneider
Trail I don't know if I covered that or
not others this bridge oh the bridge
the pedestrian bridge yeah so we're
actually some engineering meeting on
that tomorrow but we are continuing to
work on engineering for the for the
pedestrian bike Bridge
and will that have we sort of talked
around that today really quickly will it
have a canopy aspect
um the one that we've priced out does
not stop okay
trying to think
like a covered bridge
well I mean I am unclear of the of the
structures that make lomans
canopy tree walks were oh that's if
that's uh actual Hardscape if it's
netting if it's kind of like one of
those Himalayan Bridges where you hang
on to the side yes yeah well that'd be
fun that would be fun yeah oh so you
mean like a canopy Bridge yes well I
mean I can't look yes I mean I was
thinking of that parallel to the
physical Bridge which would just be
another way to get across
oh and I don't even know what the canopy
cover is there so but it seemed to me it
was a prime opportunity
it's I mean it's there's plenty of
mature sycamores I know that and some on
our side I don't think yeah on the yeah
they're both beautiful ones I should say
even more so on the other side yeah
that's the reason why we have a spot
that we really are hoping it will work
because it's a spectacular okay specimen
that might be a future okay project
the the bridge engineering is is
involved
um
any other any questions about you the
parks or as you were talking there
occurred to me that we have two
times we're using Plaza Commonwealth
Plaza in 1876 Plaza so yeah I don't know
that we're going to refer to
Commonwealth Plaza as such except for in
the context of Designing it okay it
could call for some
um creative brainstorming about what
that could be absolutely
um I mean of course Commonwealth Commons
comes to mind but that's hardly creative
or ingenious but I like the alliteration
yeah I did so did that that's what I
said but I I was wondering if we found
the plat for the laying out of Jeffrey
and Commonwealth and
um if there would be some names in there
that we could pick up
yeah that's a good idea
um and are we are we on 1876 Plaza is
that
uh I don't no it's still a working
working title yeah so and we are I think
hopefully an email went out about the
naming Rights group
scheduling a meeting nope it didn't
happen okay
we'll make sure that happens
uh I will follow up on that
um okay so architecture review
guidelines uh are at city council at uh
their
think due for third reading at the next
meeting which is next Tuesday
um so you can view those online with our
agenda
just by looking at our agendas
we do have a budget this year for uh
inspectors for
landscape installations and
and construction
so we currently construct
construct inspect like Footers and
Foundations electrical and plumbing and
structures but what we have not done is
inspect against architecture
specifically just to make sure that
everything is being built with detailing
appropriately right inspectors tend to
be more concerned about safety less
about like the the architectural
detailing so Council has allowed us to
go forward with an inspection program
where we're going to have architectural
inspections as well as landscape
inspections so as approved landscape
plans are being installed we'll have you
know we don't we haven't finalized the
program but I would imagine maybe a a
pre-construction meeting and you know
initial inspection at some point
follow-up inspections as
indicated and I would think some program
some projects would be kind of one or
two and done others would be more
protracted
um so that program is one that we're
finalizing
do have on the agenda for this year a
volcano mulch ordinance so that's on our
that's on our Horizon and I've sent that
to council for their consideration for
legislative goals
and then I I my goals I have a lot of
goals but what do we want to what do we
want to go over
um I have outlined goals for 2023 and
shared those with Council
uh uh and I'll I'll cherry pick some of
them that seem to probably apply most to
areas the tree commission might be
interested in these can all be seen at
the last council meeting on my update
um
okay it looks like this it looks like
that
so it is not lacking
in some things so a big big one and and
like I kind of broke it into
kind of category safety and Community
Health environment sustainability Zone
and development Parks and Rec service
and infrastructure Communications and
strategy
the big bullet point at the top of all
of those almost is year the Park's just
finalizing and managing those projects
it pertains to a lot of those categories
um
we're going to continue to be spending a
lot of time and energy working on
finalizing
um
environmental nuisance actions against
properties in the Ferndale Mayfield
landfill to try to
move forward with reclaiming that
property and cleaning it up and
enhancing the quality of life for the
people that live there today
um
our bike Boulevard Network and signage
we've been working on that internally
hope to have that installed this year
um so as we finalize we our bike plan
has recommended routes we're making some
tweaks to that and also finalizing our
way finding signage so I'll keep you
guys surprised with that
on environment
um
we have a draft zero emissions landscape
incentive ordinance that would
essentially provide commercial
contractors that have zero emissions
equipment with some incentives they
would have
access to work hours that maybe were a
little bit expanded and in turn maybe
more contracted work hours for
contractors that are using gasoline leaf
blowers and lawn mowers
that sort of equipment
we are working on a climate action plan
actually we have an OSU student group
helping us with with that
um
last year we received a grant to help us
with the greenhouse gas emission for the
community which is feeding into that
climate action plan and I would hope
that we also have some canopy pieces to
that as well
so make sure to keep on reminding me of
that as an important piece I mean right
um
because I how a climate plan would be
incomplete without the addition though
right it would I agree they are going to
give your goals
here so they can use okay
of their free page report there you go
done
right
um
we are going to be launching a land our
land use strategy update so that was
last updated in 2011 that's the document
that really
uh feeds into what the cic does so we
will be going through an update process
and we'll be tapping commission members
to assist us with that
and the community with Community
engagement
uh we
would like one thing we're working on is
modernizing park rules and the rec board
ordinance our rec board ordinance was
crafted in
1944 at the height of World War II it
was formed in response to the gift of
the Jeffrey estate to the city and it
set up the rec board as sort of an
independent body that
went out hired hired people to run a Rec
Department raise their own money
operated as kind of a quasi division of
the city which is very different from
how the rec board operates today it also
specified that the rec board had uh
hegemony essentially over Jeffrey Park
and Commonwealth Park and then later on
added lands that were leased by the city
but for example there's a lot of
internal confusion over Schneider Park
you know in terms of
you know who gets the pleasure of
cleaning up Schneider Park and mowing it
and trimming the trees uh which
department and you know in in doing so
the management of the park and that so
we've realized that coupled with some
Antiquated park rules uh really require
a closer look so that's something we'll
be working on at Council this year and I
think that does touch on the tree
Commission because of I know that
there's been similar just sort of like
you know
uh yes Intrigue around the management of
lands the management of lands in the
approval process in the city
um
we also you know the the rec board the
rec director has has wanted for some
time to have a Jeffrey Park plan uh
process put together I know Mary you
have
applied to be part of that and this kind
of sat on the back burner for a while
hoping to move that forward but also
with a little bit more of a crystalline
structure so that we're really honing
what exactly what we're trying to
accomplish from this
um
I would like it to be more than just a
forest preservation plan I'd like it to
be an overarching Jeffrey Park plan and
so that's something we're internally
talking about and hope to hope to start
at least this year
so there's a lot of other things on here
I was just trying to think of things
that were more
overlapping with the tree Commission
and I'm probably missing some of the
stuff here because I I made too many of
these goals but uh that's some of the
stuff we're working on
so what kind of questions do we have for
the mayor I'm just curious with the um
the noise ordinance with the landscapers
using the gas powered machines
um I don't know if you've ever been down
to Naples Florida in the winter but I
feel like they're welcome to Naples sign
should be also with a picture of a guy
with the backpack holding them because I
mean that's all you see you know I feel
like maybe I should go visit there right
now just to yeah yeah business trip yeah
but I'm just wondering can we
collaborate with other communities
or are we because obviously you know
you're not going to get landscapers who
want to come work here if they can't use
their yeah this is um that's a great
question I
based on and I have a really we have
great relationships with other local
leaders in central Ohio
um I don't this is a little more
esoteric than I think many communities
are willing to
tackle
um I'd be happy to update other
communities and ask if they'd like to
join us my perspective is that we have
some we have some key contractors that
do a lot of work in Bexley and if they
had access to expanded work hours they
might be incentivized to look more
closely at equipment and I don't think
the equipment Grant would probably agree
with me is there yet for the most part
so I see this is more kind of setting up
a framework and expectation for the
future we have a fully or mostly fully
electric landscape set up not for all of
our all of our products but we have the
setup put together so that we understand
how feasible it is and we can help
educate especially as equipment matures
um so
long story short Regional would be great
I I find it probably unlikely that we'd
see a whole lot of traction in other
communities for similar Concepts I mean
I think it's going to come alongside we
get a lot of complaints about noise from
leaf blowers and peace and quiet in the
neighborhoods
and working hours and one thing that I
think is not well understood even by our
own Police Department is that there is a
perception that weekend work by
landscape contractors is prohibited and
that is actually not correct weekend
work is allowed by our code
we've been enforcing it and correctly
we've been enforced into the where code
is written
prohibits construction but it really
speaks to building construction it
doesn't speak to site management
um so in in looking at that and trying
to see how to reform that and update it
and actually make it match what
community expectations and
Communications are
it I think we have an opportunity
to restrict
some of the noisiest activities a little
bit more and then like give some give
some leeway and some incentive
yeah I think the Bexley Bloomers will be
all electric yes yes well nowhere I
think Gerald are you kidding steam
powered Ron doesn't trust us with
anything power as a reminder I think is
it even though it is all electric right
we did it okay so Havenwood Park I mean
it's is all electric they're emissions
since uh and of course we we fuel our
electricity from wind farms and uh
neighboring states so it is truly zero
emissions and other than driving the
vehicle oh yeah well the sooner and soon
enough though you'll get there
yeah
so uh other questions for the mayor this
is good time because I think Chief Lewis
is just coming in the door so oh look at
him right
just rolling in
right on time thank you so that
concludes everything I have to tell you
and no more questions and we're good to
go yeah I may be getting set up in this
one no no you actually you are you you
uh gave me a break I appreciate it thank
you so Chief was well I will identify
ourselves but we have two guests today
and I when we're done I'll ask them to
identify themselves because would you
prefer me to sit in the audience or
would you no we're right
because we're having a conversation and
you're not being interrogated I'd like
you to sit with us yes okay so thank you
so Linda why don't you just say who you
are and and
um your status on the tree commission
Linda zupnick I've been in Bexley for 43
years and been on the tree commission 20
summer yeah
I'm Mary McMahon I've been in Bexley 27
years and I've been on the tree
commission for um what 27 days
very the newest member and I'm Susan
quintense and I've been on the tree
commission Linda and I were actually
founding members of the tree commission
so we've been here a wee bit yeah
uh and I'm Jim Wilson I've been on well
I've lived in Bexley I think
uh 28 29 years something like that my
Math's not very good
um and been on the tree commission for
maybe 10 or 11. I think I have another
couple years left on this term yeah it's
yeah it's not gonna be nice to the mayor
yeah I'd be nice to the mayor that's
right okay
be nice to the mayor
it's okay
I'm Elena Andrews I'm the landscape
staff consultant and I was on the free
commission and then I am now a staff
consultant to the direct commission and
she actually did leave Bexley although
she was born and raised here and I was
born in Canada well that doesn't count
that I grew up in my separation yeah I
left for a number of years
um and then actually this March I'll
have been back in Bexley now for 10
years awesome yeah all good stuff Mr
Archer
Forester here for city of Bexley we've
met a couple times yes yeah and I'm
Kessler yes international Man of Mystery
yes that's right and uh Chief Luis we
have two guests with us today from Ohio
State they she yes we have Jillian on
the left and Sabrina on the right they
are taking a course and they had to
attend a
a city meeting public meeting and they
decided ours look the most benign of
anything they could find so thank you oh
this is excited well we're trying to to
um tell them public service does not
have an onus that only has rewards so
we're trying trying to show them that so
um for tree commission members who don't
know I was able to get access to Chief
Lewis's resume and I was interested of
course not only in your law enforcement
career but the fact that three of your
four positions were with universities
Ohio State University of Louisville
Cleveland yeah and of course Steve
Patrol so you know we have this kind of
that side in the law enforcement but
then you seem to have a really
strong presence in Communications and
public relations and information
so tell us a little bit about how those
have tied together for you
well first and foremost thank you for
the invitation I apologize the mayor
will tell you
um you get one time to make a first
impression and I typically would have
been in uniform but I was scheduled for
State mandated training and so they
preferred us to be in business casual so
that's why I'm not in my traditional
uniform so my apologies for not looking
the part but I am your chief of police
here in Bexley it's um I think Mr Mayor
probably about number five or so for me
it feels like just yesterday
you know the love is so strong I know I
know it's just a caring Community hey
yes ma'am it is it has been absolutely
amazing and just um the community the
police department the citizens uh it's
just um I'm excited to be here I'm very
proud very humbled to serve the citizens
of Bexley I'm a little about me I grew
up here in central Ohio
grew up here in Columbus
um as a West Side kid I was a product of
of the 70s busing and was bus from the
west side to the east side and then we
moved farther west
um after college I was uh tricked into
joining the highway patrol I spent 22
years with the Ohio State Highway Patrol
and I say tricked there was a very
senior recruiter who knew my grandfather
and the two of them decided that that
would be a good career option for me
after college so um just completely
um and he ended up becoming not only one
of my role models but very close mentors
and really just he was the second
African-American to ever join the Ohio
State Highway Patrol
um the very first was in 1955 the second
was in 65. so he endured a lot of
challenges after leaving the United
States Air Force and so he I really
looked to him as to being the standard
Bearer retire third
I then went and worked at Ohio State
University was there for about two and a
half years in media and public relations
I was a senior director of media I was
able to try my best to assist Dr gee and
a number of communications and messaging
from the University
from some of the national championship
to unfortunately handling and managing
the band Scandal and some other things
that took place uh during my tenure
there Dr Ludo and Dr Drake were also the
internment and full-time president that
I served as speechwriter to other
Communications for the university
the police chief at Ohio State said hey
I just left a fantastic opportunity up
in Cleveland at Cleveland State I think
you should get back into law enforcement
I applied and as I say the rest is
history I ended up in Cleveland and was
there Cleveland State for about three
and a half years had a number of
different disciplines that reported to
me in that that particular role
and that was also the time when the RNC
was happening in Cleveland so it got to
to see and manage a lot during that time
period and
um a national search firm reached out to
me about the opportunity in the universe
of Louisville and so I had accepted that
role
um while there as Chief I was then
promoted to an assistant vice president
and then handled uh was it assistant
Vice President of Operations as well as
Chief
um fast forward four years post I see
this fantastic opportunity here in the
city of Bexley was really an opportunity
to return back to Central Ohio and and
really um kind of had that completion of
my career and to finish out at home so
that's where I'm at father of five four
currently served in the United States
military and my three-year-old who is a
Jeffrey Mansion uh preschooler
well that that's how great maybe he
would know your mother didn't she just
be training at Ohio State she did do you
know Melinda Sedar I don't so I was
there from 2013 to 2015 16. later than
she was it might be a little later than
when she was there but yeah I know and
so she she worked with Gordon gee and
she did a lot with the board
presentations and great things and so so
then um we definitely know the same
people for sure
trustees and yes yes well it's a small
world in Bexley as yes it is yeah
so um have you ever come to a tree
Commission meeting in any of your other
positions so never a tree commission
meeting however I will share part of
what I did as the assistant Vice
President of Operations a lot of
community work and in the adjacent area
in the universe of Louisville so a lot
of different initiatives and programs
that dealt with tree planning having our
officers engage the community I thought
it was very important for us to be very
visible
to be present and support that there was
a lot of that type of activity a
gentleman by the name of
um
trying to figure Mr Asher's last that Mr
Asher was my point there in Louisville
and in Old Louisville actually and so
had a lot of interaction there and um
not her Basher oh no I know her okay
okay yes yes no herb is is it uh he's
retired now yes right he was the
governmental Affairs point point of
contact but uh so now I know her I said
I saw he and Kara Loop were together
here recently yeah so
um
we we as as a team may have individual
questions for you and as you and I
chatted the last week we talked a little
bit about
um uh the issues that the tree
commission has that may uh integrate
with the role of the of the police
department and one of those was the
traffic on Broad Street and the
interaction of traffic with our beloved
medians and and uh and how we could work
together to make sure that those medians
once they are rehabbed can be sustained
so I don't know if you had a chance to
think about that if you need some more
details about this I think I'm so one of
the things that we're doing now is
really from a quality control
perspective looking at data and then
analyzing the analytics and what the
results are showing us so as recent as
two days ago I looked at the last
quarter of 2022 all the traffic crashes
that have happened here in the city of
Bexley of those we have about 22 percent
that are unsolved hit skip traffic
crashes that's a high percentage of
individuals who are leaving the scene in
similar situations that you just
indicated what would be a normal
percentage I mean or something that you
have seen so me having that from a state
patrol perspective you know nearly
you're looking at half a million traffic
crashes a year and of those being
unsolved I'd say they're probably about
five percent Statewide so this is so
it's high but I think when you're also
looking at a municipality as opposed to
a rural area
um some of the challenges that go into
that and just being able to track down
on that other vehicle these are
happening
um late at night we are not a community
that has excuse me my apologies and then
um a lot of um
some communities have the traffic lights
the cameras to be able to try and pick
up some of that information we've got
some traffic cameras but not at every
intersection especially along our you
know Livingston Main and Broad to be
able to gather some of that data the
challenge is once you get that is then
from the insurance perspective and I
know we talk very briefly about getting
the information then the city then
billing back that insurance company to
get the Monies to to then make those
repairs how do we then work together I
think that's the challenge aesthetically
you want to have that Purity without
having
um you know fencing and some of the the
visual obstructions that that might
occur so what's that balance and I think
we can work together and see what kind
of some best practices in other
communities similar to us would do I
mean looking at the adjacent areas
outside of Bexley and some some very
similar with the trees and how they may
manage it and then us even partnering
with some of them and seeing maybe
there's something that we can do jointly
um is is there a speeding issue on Broad
Street that you've been able to document
um I know that the mayor has done a
couple of speed surveys and looking at
the numbers and I think that it's at
different intervals at different times
of the year I think that speed is always
going to be a factor in traffic crashes
from unsafe conditions it's not always
illegal as far as it relates to the
posted speed but you know as we know ice
especially this time of the year we see
a lot of ice and Bexley people going too
fast for conditions that tends to happen
a lot of what I've saw on this last
quarter a lot of improper turns I saw a
lot of um a show clear distance ahead
and a number of situations where there's
side swipe passing and meaning that the
roads are fairly tight there's a park
car that's being struck and then
individuals leave so those are really
the primary contributing factors in most
of the crashes for the end of 2020
YouTube
so um Jim and Linda and Mary jump in
absorbing you know
you know do you want them overhead well
I
I like data uh so are most of the
accidents on the main thoroughfares in
Bexley or are they mostly on what we
call the side streets they are all over
and looking at that and so what are the
next steps is to not only just doing a
quality review of what's causing them
and why but it's also looking at kind of
a spot map and then creating so that's
really the next step to be able to
pinpoint I think that we need to
generate the resources because after we
find out where then we need to look and
see what times what days how can we
prevent some of those and doing it in a
proactive way to communicate back to the
community to say this is where we've
seen an influx of traffic crashes these
are the times of days these are the
cause of the factors and then start
being very proactive to try to reduce
some of those
and are there particular intersections
that have higher numbers or is it just
sort of red in my opinion I think Main
Street was where I saw a lot of the
traffic crashes a lot of sideswipe a lot
of acda
um people took fail to yields on turns
so that really was where the majority of
that particular time frame was there on
Main Street that's where I saw the most
any trees to blame not to blame I think
that the victims of but none to blame
so I'm curious how's the Livingston
Avenue
um revamp working or do you even get any
of that kind of data because I I get my
information from Facebook so oh well
Tick Tock Facebook what I see how many
crashes Source yeah well South Bexley I
see a lot of you know posts about oh
that another crash on Livingston and
it's always like at Roosevelt or Vernon
it seems which well and and the mayor
May correct me but it's under my belief
that a majority of those are handled by
Columbus Police and not our department
so there would be very few that I would
actually see because we're not
generating those yeah I just wondered if
you were you know aware and I have not
okay um the first thing really my first
course of business is you know my
sergeants have teased me they said I've
taken away all their work from them
because I'm really trying to get in and
learn myself how things move and operate
navigate
um what are a lot of causative factors
how do the docs connect and it will help
me better understand for moments like
this so I'll be able to to really give
you accurate depictions as to what's
happening in the city
um I have not looked outside yet I want
to get really familiar with all the
inner workings of Bexley in my
department and then I'll start to look
at Jason so I'm curious too um now that
the there's a longer delay on the red
light changes have has is that a good
thing or no I think it's giving people
an opportunity to run the red light even
more time to run it you know most of the
the crashes and again it's just a
snapshot but looking at those a lot of
them were people just not paying
attention and in proper terms there were
a lot of improper terms it was really
surprised me people just starting in
front of others and so there were a
number of those that favor to yield
Dynamic and like I said the ashokler
distance and then the park Vehicles do
we have much as far as pedestrians being
hit in that quarter there were none and
actually so I was going
I think you Mary's referring to we
changed our lights
in the past year or two we had some
lights where there was a that all red
condition okay it's some priority
intersections we we just went everywhere
with that probably
one to two years ago I think
I do think and I I haven't pulled the
data to to tell you what exactly the
percentage of change is because
and I think you know number of
pedestrian strikes is already low in
Bexley but I subjectively I think I have
I can't think of a pedestrian strike
recently yeah I think there has been a
change with that yeah and this is so um
I looked at the third quarter and I've
looked at the fourth quarter and with
both there were zero pedestrians within
those time periods
yeah so
um the chief and I talked about how
there's a lot for him to learn I mean
you think all communities are the same
and they're not all the same and
universities have to be quite different
I would guess from this so I was going
to ask Grant how you interact with the
police department when um like trees are
HID in medians or trees are hit during a
traffic accident is there do you defer
to the police are they the first you
know responders and then you follow up
or yeah typically it's a call about you
are you on there okay at two o'clock in
the morning
saying we need to come clean up this
mess
um
but for the most part we don't get
accident reports when it comes to the
medians and stuff it's usually they
drive right through it and move on and
move on and so then
I mean so who calls you when there's
something to clean up to is it the
police yes okay all right so then
they're the they're the First on site
and let you know so that they'd be the
ones keeping the records right okay
yeah um question when you talk about the
the cameras that when you don't see what
happens with the hit skip
is it that we don't have enough cameras
or we should we install more and who's
in charge of that so we have a few that
we partnered with the Ohio Department of
Transportation a few years ago and have
some strategically throughout the city
um I think the challenge is
cost
and then monitoring said cameras so
having them is great but then who do we
have to monitor and so I think that
becomes um oftentimes when you install
cameras there's a perception that
someone is on the other side watching
and that's not always the case but I do
think that having a few additional
cameras throughout the city could be
helpful and I think the data supporting
where we put them and having really a
rhyme and reason would make sense and I
do think clearly uh the Main Street and
Broad Street and potentially some of
that area Livingston where we would
respond to would make the most sense
but you know we've been watching a lot
of British detective shows and they have
CCTV cameras that they can go and find
perpetrators at any hour of the day and
any location and all of Great Britain I
think so and that yeah they have 100
apprehension rate yeah I knew it I knew
it and the Autobahn right yeah right
right
so what other questions do we have
about trees
so we're limited to trees I can't ask my
question what's your favorite tree
you know I will share with you that I
learned a lot sitting in City Council
meetings about Birch
ah
hey you
so smooth well maybe Chief Lewis you'd
like to participate in our Arbor Day
event when we're going to be quoting
somehow or saying some way Robert Frost
Birch poem have you heard that Robert
Frost wrote a poem about Birches yes
ma'am yes yes and the man I would love
to and I would love to participate I
will go on the record I think as much as
as much proactivity as our Police
Department can be in this community in
doing these types of things the better
so anytime that we can have a marked car
there and engaging with you and your
stakeholders and doing this type of work
please know that we'll do it that well
that that's great so what can you do
about the Bexley post office
I'm just asking well let's let's just
say we will continue to share
best practices what the Bexley post
office that'd be good we haven't gotten
any mail in nine days but who's counting
right
um I I do you want to talk a little bit
about your Police Academy that they have
our Citizens Academy yes our Citizens
Academy our Citizens Academy really is
an opportunity for residents to come in
and engage and interact with our
department to learn more about policing
um to come out they'll do ride-alongs
firearm safety self-defense it is just a
very comprehensive uh evaluation of our
department and and the resources that we
provide and one of the other things that
we're working on the mayor and I have
really been talking about the need we've
got to void in our community for
Emergency Management right now we don't
have a designated person and that's
something that we have put together
we'll be making an announcement
potentially next week in creating an
emergency management role
um so for example
um severe weather happens and impact
this community and what is that
messaging and how will we share that how
do we look at tabletop exercises how do
we incorporate stakeholders such as
yourselves to hello ma'am
to ensure that we work together on
tabletop full-scale exercises those
types of things so that Emergency
Management role from CPR AED first aid
providing these types of services and
looking at some best practices for our
community and how to keep us safe so
those are some things that we're going
to also be sharing here probably the
next 30 days yeah I I just wanted to go
back to the citizens Police Academy for
a minute so how many times a year is
that offered um do we do it twice a year
okay and we have a very strong Alumni
Association I heard that yes yes
how could we tell
do you have a badge
yes we won't tell CBD yeah yes if we
pass can we give tickets to make people
making left-handed turns out of the CSG
parking lot you know I think if anything
I think the next secret mission is how
do we find volunteers that become
crossing guards to help us at some of
our schools that's the I think that's
for 2023 one of the things we want to do
and and really Foster that relationship
to increase some visibility for our kids
so um
by my only question would be how is
again getting back to Citizens Police
Academy because people ask me about this
I don't know how is that advertised is
that in the blasphemer that you could
sign up for that or someone said it was
the police Facebook page but you know
knowing this group now does Tick Tock
but only once a year at midnight and
some Facebook on Livingston Avenue I was
wondering if there's some more um
Facebook word of mouth and I think we
put in the blast that we could do a
better job in a blast actually I think
okay I I mean I I have to say I'm a
little jealous because these people
these alums that come out are so
um over the top about about the
interaction that yeah they love it but
then no one else knows about it so I was
thinking if we can find it I think it's
you know they say the first rule in
Fight Club is we don't talk about
fighting uh-huh
right okay so I mean maybe we could get
deputized to go after volcano mulchers
yeah that's right
um I'm I'm assuming the police do not do
code enforcement we do not yes and we
have if you like to would you like to no
sir no sir I can't believe you're saying
no no no I know I am all about taking on
new responsibilities and and helping
support in any way but I also know when
there's some battles that are just not
worth fighting yes there you go I would
think we could have a Code Enforcement
Academy yeah maybe so so what other
element do you have any questions I'm
sorry I forgot to call on you oh no
um I guess just in the in the five
months that you've been here so far is
there anything that you've seen
um in the city that you know does relate
to either the parks or the trees or the
landscape that is either a positive or A
negative impression that you could share
with us that might be helpful
so without sounding too
um media marketing will ish
having a three-year-old
arrive at Jeffrey Mansion every morning
and to pick her up every day and to see
the parks yeah I don't know if you know
it or not but it's here the parks oh no
we were just going to get to that on the
agenda
it might be time for the Personnel
review
it's January but it's um I I think that
in a community that takes such great
pride and knowing that um trees parks
that focus is there it's very refreshing
um knowing that we've got a dog park
coming soon and looking at some ways to
continue to show our visibility
engagement we're going to get a canine
for our Police Department you know we're
looking at it's going to be a bomb
detection dog and how we can engage at
the parks more and and interact with our
young people and the community as a
whole so I think that my feedback would
be keep doing what you're doing keep
finding ways for us to be a resource and
to partner
I've learned that oftentimes we try to
do these things by ourself
um and sometimes that there are others
that may do it a little better and even
reaching out to them and trying to build
and enhance and creating those
Partnerships so I'm all about that I
think that there's a so many
opportunities for us just to continue to
build on already a very strong existing
tradition and culture and so I'm excited
about that right instead of bond
detection maybe it could be a mulch
volcano Destroyer I mean if you don't
have multiple canoe is the trunk of the
tree okay and then there's usually a
mulch bed which is you know just a
couple inches of mulch all the way
around but it doesn't touch the bark
well mulch volcanoes become sort of like
this emerging presence on the tree and
of course then the bark underneath the
mulch rots okay so and it's just not
good and so I'm assuming that you will
be driving the city of Bexley and you'll
be looking at all these trees as mulch
volcanoes we had yes and then okay like
it's just you know it's just a good goal
and I think
right well I you know I can I can only
Envision the the call to the mayor and
they'll say Mr Mayor um your Chief is in
my front yard standing in front of my
tree that that may generate a call or
two yeah well for some of us we worried
that we're looking at the most volcanoes
and not the road so there yeah and I
think that since you've only been here
five months the opportunity to bring
your your daughter three-year-old to uh
the Arbor Day with the fairy gardens
okay oh my God she will so when is when
is this all taking place well we have a
variety of activities and I will just
email you some operations for you or the
April you know 20 seconds right or the
police to be involved lots of lots of
different things she will be astonished
it yeah our village we have a fairy
Village so um how involved is our alumni
association appreciation and
participating in this
I don't think they are
because because the first thing they do
is they don't talk about the police
academy
yes okay how many how many alums would
you have chief
gosh we're pretty strong I mean 20
.
yeah just in that group so I bet we're
probably a hundred plus what how many
years has this been going on I'd like to
be in please no but I think Kenwood but
I was going to say I think that the
police academy Citizens Academy was one
of the very first
um uh grants that the Bexley Community
Foundation funded and they're about 10
to 12 years old so I bet it's been eight
to ten years and so you know I'm just
envisioning this amazing photo op of our
alumni from the Citizens Academy all
wearing their t-shirts police officers
the commission and the community and
we're all out there in front of the
trees I think it'd be a great great
opportunity well it sounds to me like
it'd be a great uh presence for uh
Bexley Bloomers on a on a Thursday too
you think yes
there's endless ways we can work
together and we're going to make sure
that happens yes ma'am yes so do you
live in Bexley no ma'am no ma'am I've
tried to the mayor said that I have too
many children yeah
and now I'm trying to move in with it he
just it didn't work it didn't work I was
going to suggest a plot at the South
community garden if you were interested
we have the openings
okay yeah
put that on the to-do list
any other questions for the chief Lorien
did you have anything you wanted to ask
no
yeah
all right all right well Chief we thank
you thank you she's good she's good yes
yes yes well we thank you for coming on
a busy day thank you and uh we'll just
tell you up front it won't be the first
time we invite you so I hope that you'll
be able to come and see us again maybe
the end of the year absolutely and I I
say to be relevant is to be present so
as much as I can be present and before
you and a part of the community I'm
absolutely committed to doing that
um on a on a final final topic there's
been some conversation uh among the um
the tree commission about uh looking at
the landscape around the police station
for a review and some rehab and um hope
you would consider how that might happen
and how that could work for you and your
department yes ma'am so I I have a
little bit of knowledge in that we had
in a particular area directly in front
of the department and that has all been
revamped and I think there's some is
some protected area the that mitigated
area they just mitigated and dug it all
up so I know every few years you're
supposed to dig that out and replant it
okay so it hasn't been replanted yet
yeah it's an ugly phase right now
um is there any
opportunity to plant trees there no
probably not there no no
ornamental grass or something and I
think and actually this was on my list
of things to talk to you about this week
and somehow I didn't write it down so
anyway the um
so we had I came back to the tree
commission about the shrubs that are in
front of the fence on the Alley you know
how they kind of encroach into the alley
and in general that alley needs to be
repaved and cleaned up and so we talked
about what some alternate plant material
might be like and Susan suggested we
actually do like a full-on landscape
Plan update for the police department uh
which we would assist with the staff
expertise and talk through it and the
commission loves to look at landscape
plans yeah we do we do and and we also
love Mission creep you know so we do we
do we do so we could look at the alley
as well on the other side and how can we
help people and you know and then get
the community gardeners to help with the
police station upkeep of the landscape
so you know this this could be a
strategic Initiative for the next decade
are you in yes ma'am okay
that's right is that the mission
statement now the tree commission no no
it's just it's just a side project it's
just yeah it's just smart
right state of being yeah it's going to
say it's just as one of those things
that it needs attention and uh I I think
that both the city and the tree
commission would like to improve that
see and that aligns perfectly with our
new hashtag with the police department
making a difference okay
making it I like it we like it so Chief
thank you very much for coming all right
and lorianne welcome to you thank you
sorry Emily it's it's all right I was
just going to mention that we have uh
two guests with us today they're
students at Ohio State and they needed
to attend a public meeting and here they
are
I knew you would I knew you would
I know so you can chat after the meeting
um the mayor came at the right time
because he was just done us with his
report and Elena do you want to go on
and followed by Grant and I'm sure real
quickly I do need to take off so thank
you very much for being here today and
sharing your goals
appreciate it
um so
it's not attached but I can just talk
through it and what I will do is I will
email a copy out to all of the members
it's not okay okay
uh I thought it's all right it's all
right you need to give the highlights
well there's this let me see
oh hey you know what maybe oh yeah
that's it yeah I thought I'm so proud of
myself technology-wise oh my gosh
before the fall just remember
along with tick tocks so the Jane Austen
plan exactly if you all remember this so
this is this is an ongoing uh document
that we kind of have internally for the
tree commission
um which we are starting to track all of
our projects when was the tree
commission date if it's been installed
if it's been finally reviewed and what
is the Viewpoint permit number
um as I briefly mentioned I think maybe
in the November meeting
um and I again I apologize my apologies
for not being able to be here in
December
um but I have started to meet monthly
with um Kathy Rose and Karen volcker so
that we can have a better streamline
understanding of when things are going
for zoning review or Architectural
Review Board and whether or not
um the tree commission needs to get
involved and
by having that process
um obviously the tree commission
sometimes will come later because the
landscape design tends to come later in
the design of a project but it is
allowing us to catch some things that
the zoning and the Architectural Review
people might not necessarily have in
their mind in terms of when they're
looking at this site is there a mature
tree is that impacting that how can we
do some things and try to catch some
things that are um going on and so I
think that this year we will be refining
that process and I'll continue to kind
of update you on that and so there are a
whole bunch of projects that are not
interested
um not that the tree commission is not
interested in but that there might be a
staff review it's kind of minor but
what I have started to do which I think
would be helpful for for everyone within
this list is um
is I start to have an upcoming projects
so projects and this is where are things
that we are starting to learn about that
are in the process either the zoning is
reviewing it or the Architectural Review
Board is reviewing it and just to give
people an update as to what's going on
because oftentimes I think the community
will hear about this and um we are all
kind of ambassadors for the city and so
if we have an understanding of oh yes we
know that this is happening and we know
that it's coming before the tree
commission we can put some residents
Minds at ease potentially I know that
Susan probably gets 8 000 phone calls
throughout the week of you know what's
going on and what's not so with the
upcoming projects just to let you know
so there is 81 North Drexel that has
been going on for a long time that is
the old Huntington mansion and
um
currently right now that is they have a
landscape plan review I did an initial
staff review it seems like now over a
year ago but what they've done is um
they've gone back and were in contact
with the architect that will be coming
forward for the tree commission review
so that's going forward they were adding
some geothermal lines we made sure that
where those are being installed they're
not affecting any of the trees on the
site they kind of pick the area that's
open so again that's where it's helpful
that if we can start to have
conversations between Karen and Kathy
and myself that we can kind of nip a
couple of things in the bud
420 North Cassidy that is a three-story
commercial residential project that has
been
um going through uh bzap
um it was it was tabled at last month or
it was tabled recently at the January
meeting it's going to be coming back in
February they have um I've had already
some initial meetings with them and
giving them input back on some landscape
comments in terms of adding additional
trees and how can we
um make it feel
um
like it works within the fabric of the
neighborhood
and so they would like to come to us
most likely next month for an informal
review so it will not be the final
application but they have a landscape
plan they don't have the exact trees
specified but they want to show it with
us and get the feedback just after going
through its pod design and pod design is
the ones who did the Ohio State Bank
design so they understand how the tree
commission works and they want to make
sure they already have elevations drawn
up they've got a rendered plan
um and so I think that they would really
just like to have their feedback before
they you know get too far along in that
process there is going to be a new build
at 2425 Sherwood
um all of these people have then once it
goes through the ARB they get notified
that it does have to go before the tree
commission
um with this one they are actually
working to keep all of the existing
trees on site and so their actual you
know it's one of the first ones that
I've seen so far where the footprint
actually you know was modified so that
they can keep all the existing trees on
their site so that one is coming up
216 South Columbia that is a lot split
and it's right across the street from
the house that was excited to have the
the tree in their tree lawn and so
um and so that's a lot split they are
doing a renovation to the existing house
and there will be a new house that's
being constructed the renovation of the
existing house doesn't you know come
before a purview because it's just it's
all interior work and but the landscape
plan The Architects do know that they
need to come before us and then 2300
East Livingston that is another
three-story residential that is still
relatively early on in the process
um but just you know and they understand
that they're also going to have to have
the tree commission review on that have
they have have they been to ARB yet they
have not been to ARB yet I don't believe
yes that's in the court of appeals
because the the approval or the
conditional use was
um that the city council gave was
appealed to the Common Pleas Court and
the Common Pleas Court said that the
city council was wrong and the city's
appealed that to the court of appeals so
I don't think that's moving forward
until the court of appeals anytime soon
yeah we're not going to see it anytime
soon okay and what happened from the
court of appeals is there a final appeal
it was that you could try to get the
case into the Ohio Supreme Court but
that's discretionary review you don't
have a right to get into the Supreme
Court so this is the final stop unless
something
well you know it's
not so the best thing about this
upcoming project list besides
you know knowing what work is in front
of us is not having to challenge
ourselves to remember what we should be
looking at yes
so I have to say to Eleanor what have
you heard about 81 North Drexel what do
you heard it actually gives us a
framework so that's good thank you Elena
you're welcome anything else under your
report no well we'll go on to our happy
Urban Forester Mr Archer it's almost
coming up to Spring Grant I know are you
excited I am excited I am excited
especially if we're going to do spring
plants settings
yeah so spring is typically set aside
for project planting so which would be
the North Park View project which we're
planting 45
or so Persian Ironwood
that project will start
whenever they can start digging the
plant material would you guess April May
March depends on how wet it is
really depends
um
so yeah we'll uh we'll work with them
and we'll be removing them as we plant
them
uh Broad Street will be infilling
between six to ten black gum that's
probably going to go up
um as the winter goes on so so Tupelo is
our spring plant are they not so our
let's see so tupelos are also specked
from Bexley Park
yes yes so if there are some holes there
could we try and plant those the spring
as well uh probably not
um
that will cut into my fall planting
budget
so I would have to you have to get money
from trees for Bexley or something are
you probably okay so yeah
um right now we're just replacing trees
we
cut down and if we have room for infills
we will do that
but I typically use some of that
tree planting budget for these projects
like the Broad Street infill the bio
soils at PD
and some of the other small requests I
get around the city replacement trees at
the gardens and stuff like that
I was just thinking that well what are
the spring plants Grant a Tupelo the
Black Gum and chincote's usually but the
thing is they dig them in the spring so
you can still plant them in the fall but
but they're sprinting yeah okay spring
digs okay because I I didn't realize
that I thought you had to plant in the
spring too because I thinking now was
the type ideally that would be the best
but the problem is I don't have I'm not
staffed to water them so regardless if
you plant them you still have to get
them watered so so fall is always best I
got a long hose on Bexley Park I can
make it all the way down as long as
you're not standing in front of the stop
sign yeah
never never obstruct the view of a stop
sign
um
so yeah that's about all I have going on
right now
so
um
how I forget how much vegetation would
be installed at the dog park a lot some
none little
do you remember Elena none no no no
vegetation no vegetation yeah yeah
so then you just have more Hardscape to
put in
for more drainage no drainage there
we're just going to put mulch over
everything and we are going to have some
grass up on the upper area okay
um what questions does everybody have
for Grant
I think okay okay
you're getting off easy today Grant
all right old business you ready Mr
Wilson yes ma'am okay well let's see
we'll do the refining the Arboretum
website Mary and I have met with Sam and
Sam Metcalf director of communications
and Molly and Dick O'Donnell on updating
the Arboretum website and we're going to
be making great progress great progress
Molly has put together a spreadsheet of
all of the plant material
trees in in Bexley in the Parks and in
the right of way
assistance from Elena and the additional
varieties that she has planted
and Mary's worked with the governor's
residents and the Heritage Garden to add
those so we're making giant progress and
then Sam is also going to add what we
call the soft products like stories from
the people that have been given trees in
the tree giveaway
ah you know all those those kind of
things yes so invasive species that kind
of stuff so
um our hope is to launch this uh
uh in Arbor Day Arbor month sometime so
we got our work cut out for us
okay tree plotter program Jim
um so just remind everyone treat Butters
that this program that planet Geo has
that we've been talking to them for a
while about whether we could
um get a subscription and move the
city's data regarding our trees onto it
because for our purposes it has small
functionality than the the cities
program
um the city's program works well for
professionals like Grant but not
necessarily for amateurs like us
so we've been in conversations Grant was
helpful in providing them with data to
try to assess what the transition of our
data into their program would be and
there's just still some questions about
what we have how it would transfer into
their program so we're trying to work
that out I'm hopeful that
for our next meeting we could actually
announce that we're moving forward yes
all right I'm writing it down February
February 18. no I know goal right
because
sister remaining on the old business yes
sure I know I just thought well maybe I
should put all business Jim Wilson
commissioner I think much more business
as I have okay
would you like me to move on I would
so commission conversations we will call
last fall at our suggestion we had a
meeting uh with the architecture review
board and Beez app to try to better
coordinate our work we had our staff and
the chair and vice chair of each of the
commissions and the mayor uh and I I
think the city council president yeah
was there too
um and um we thought it was a very
constructive conversation and I think
everyone left that meeting thinking
let's do it again at a reasonable
interval so
um in our planning meeting in
conversation with the mayor I've been
deputized to reach out to the other
commissions ask them when they would be
ready to meet again and then solicit
agenda items so I think for you all this
is an opportunity to think about issues
you think we could better coordinate
with the other commissions so that we
can do our work better here and not step
on each other's toes yeah one of the
examples that we talked about when we
had our planning meeting was the corner
lot front yard because
that affects all of us it affects you
know what vsap gives for variances on
fences that's where ARB allows houses
and I suppose plantings go affects us
because affects trees in the way
um you know the right-of-way is
you know either enhanced or not enhanced
so
um
yeah so I think there are a lot of those
kind of things we just have to make sure
that we take the time to think about
them he has thoughts now would welcome
those and I'll make a note but if not if
you think of something that you think we
could better coordinate with the other
commissions just pop me an email and
we'll try to include that agenda I mean
lorian it could be the things that you
know people come up to you randomly and
say why did city council approve that or
why this and that and and if we can get
all commissions involved maybe we can
figure out you know how to prevent some
of those things right yeah okay
um last items of mine for old business
is sort of new
um last month we approved a group
consisting of Linda and Molly O'Donnell
and myself to look at some of the
questions
um that we have about tree plantings and
not I think not just limited tree plants
but intersections and how we create safe
intersections while continuing to
maximize our tree coverage and
Molly is out of town until the 21st and
so we were we'll wait for Molly to
return and we'll set up a meeting and
hopefully at least give you a progress
report next month
so any questions for old business Mr
Wilson
okay Jim thank you thank you Mary do you
want to talk about your invasive species
study group so we um
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Community
um
sure
yeah
last time you did that
you know scientifically that information
it wasn't fossil
oh that's not trying I see we got it
yeah let's not step backwards and
eliminate decorative thistle because we
did get permission for planting
decorative thistle
right let's be very specific about our
thistle I think
bamboo yeah
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right she can't remember that she
blocked that out so yeah
that's all I know that's right
so so anyway there'd be a study group a
nice when Mary and I were having coffee
the other day we talked about you know
not Reinventing the wheel but calling
other communities and ask how they've
dealt with ordinances or rules and
regulations or proper wisdom to share
um you know how they've managed to
treat invasives or not that would be the
other thing or not or not
um uh Mary was pulling together some
information for Mike price on the uh
liabilities of invasive species and one
of the aspects of it of the Amir
honeysuckle was that it changes the
chemicals in the soil to prevent some of
the natives
plants and some of the edible material
that deer would eat so I had not known
that I don't know if that would come up
and information that you would have
learned it it has I mean I think it's
almost it's not a can but it's similar
to a drug loan with black walnut right
in terms of similar it's similar to that
in terms of if you think about there are
certain plants that you can plant
underneath walnut trees and then there's
some that you know I mean the majority
of plants don't like being underneath
walnuts right but they're a handful that
can take the jug loan that the um the
tree actually pushes out into the soil
and then that's what makes the the
habitat andhospitable for other plants
right defense mechanisms right I mean so
there's it's not just an opinion I mean
that there's scientific evidence yes and
I think you know we have to be careful
all you know of course you shouldn't
plant an invasive well what is the
rollers and I and I think that um you
know if we're looking at the invasive
plants and trees and shrubs I mean
there's a lot that we can also do
I think from an educational standpoint
even if we're not able to go back to the
ordinance if you know glorian's like no
I'm gonna die
um
26 when I'm retired right in terms of
when we're looking at things in terms of
plant lists for new builds which we do
have the ability to kind of say yay or
nayon but if we're also upping the
Arboretum website and we can have
information on that I mean there's some
there's some stuff that I think we can
do potentially even if it's not codified
that we can start to push things and
then if there's enough kind of feedback
then maybe we are able to go back and
you know I mean and the reason why I say
that is just I don't I wouldn't want us
to not have the study group if we don't
think that we can change the ordinance I
think it's important for us to
continuously educate ourselves as to
what is good and what is not good to
plant in our communities and you know
kind of go from there and this is the
year that the state of Ohio adds to
their invasive list 23 they do it every
five years okay so this is good time
yeah well I think there's more interest
in it now too I mean this seems like
there's a lot more awareness yeah so and
maybe it's a good time to you know start
doing this so Bradford calorie pairs
yeah
well they're going to be on the list
they're on the list they're on the list
they're on the list and maybe this is
the year that nurseries cannot sell that
right right that's the five-year
moratorium and golden Reigns as we know
I don't I think they're declared
invasive yet right grant
uh yeah but I bet they get on the list
for consideration in five years
okay anything else under old business
all right moving on to new business we
talked about
um people contributing a goal for 2023 a
two-way conversation between the mayor
and us but since he's not here we'll
just talk at him you know that's kind of
a good way to go so does anybody have a
goal they'd like to add besides Mr
Wilson completing all of his assignments
of course that goes without saying I'll
just get new ones yeah you will you will
I mean
I mean for me there's a couple of things
one is um to actually get treat water
and to actually then formulate a plan
for how we're going to use it rather
than thinking just acquiring is is a
success
um and this is maybe related because I
don't know all the functionality of tree
plotter but I would I would I think it
would be really useful if we could start
developing mechanisms for assessing what
the maintenance needs of the different
projects that we have I mean
um it's going to be you know we're going
to have year of the parks this year and
to end you know to come out of the year
with some sense of what resources are
required to maintain what we've done
with all those parks and who has that
responsibility seems like a
a good thing for the city for us to
offer to the city
if I could piggyback on that one of uh
Grant's goals
ongoing goals was to have some sort of
benchmarking of you know this many trees
takes this much staff
or takes as much staff who are really
working on the trees and not on the dog
park
in my stating your goal correctly Grant
yeah so that I guess we're not kidding
ourselves that we're have 14 000 trees
and the Benchmark for that would be
eight arborists and we have two
uh so that we could make a case to
someone that as we invest in the in the
canopy we also have to invest in the man
or woman power
um
so that's kind of with yours Jim a
little bit of Maintenance of the parks
but also I'm going to say the urban
Forest Grant okay
Mary do you have any
oh well I mean you know contributing
obviously just learning I'm still kind
of well you've been you've been at one
meeting I think you're doing fine
yeah that's right but the chief didn't
have to arrest you I think you're okay
okay uh Linda how about you if you're
addressing things to the mayor I mean as
much as he gets enthusiastic about and
we keep getting new projects and new
activities going on you know to um
for him to prepare the budget and then
get to council to keep us with enough
staff to maintain everything
that's the way at the caliber we wanted
to so well that would be singing Grant's
song the second verse right grant yeah
well
uh well my goal would be that we
established an urban tree canopy goal we
were at 39 percent
I would I would just bet that we're down
from that with all the uh it's all the
pools and the back Lots with all the you
know construction and
um I think we we need to you know figure
out what we want to be and then get
there and to make sure that
we can fill the holes and then maintain
what we have
that would be one goal and the other
goal would be
um
I'd I'd like to see the uh the urban
Forest be
a more dominant part of the climate uh
strategy that the city is having
I mean as I understand it the mayor's
working on some sort of I don't know I
think I gave that to
um to Our Guest today but it's working
on a climate
action plan that's what it is you know
and
personally I can't see a climate action
plan that is not grounded in the Urban
Tree canopy
and that's the only thing we have
working for us all the time every day
day and night go ahead well I was going
to say related to that is also our sewer
problem having more trees means less
groundwater running right and sewer
system it's all that and that's the
carbon sequestration and what else is
the crab what else to treat shape you
know shade the shade the asphalt the
sidewalks
through
well you can't get concrete now anyway
right yeah
so those would be a couple goals and
then you know and as I had said I think
it's a two-way conversation we know the
city has limited resources so how can we
either uh make resources available on
some of these or defer them to a time
but making sure they get on a calendar
lorianne do you have any goals that
you'd like to see the tree commission
undertake uh I don't know that I have
phones that I want you all to
take but personally I think I think to
continue to do a better and better job
informing
Council of the expertise the involve a
lent or Community
um
I mean I'm just sitting here talking
listening to you and your goals I've
learned so much and I have a council
that is
they're like sponges and they want to
learn information from our articles and
we are so blessed if I say this every
time I talk to but I'm just Blown Away
about a volunteers that we have
that'd be great
um
anything anything else Grant
no no okay
all right so um uh Mary do you want to
talk a little bit about our conversation
about the Community Gardens
um
so basically
you know the Community Gardens when we
open the gardens up in the in the uh in
January to the public to register it all
is handled through Parks and Rec but
whenever we um have issues we wind up
dealing directly with the mayor and
Grant and it just feels like the
Community Gardens are sort of like in
limbo and I I just would like to have
the Community Gardens possibly fall
Under The Canopy of the tree commission
oh that was so so image
so um
that's basically what I wanted to say
and um because I I knew this was a kind
of a goal or trend of Mary's that when
we had our agenda planning meeting and
the mayor Grant Elena Jim and I talked
about it the mayor was very much in
favor of that and so Mary and I've
talked and
um going to go and either create
organizational documents or try and find
them and set up a
framework that grounds the community
gardens in some sort of
organizational structure and has some
rules so that you know we have some
understanding of who's in charge and
who's liable who's paying the bills
so we know Ellen is doing the design so
that's down and Grant can look at the
trees but after that it gets to be a
little bit amorphous so we'll do that
and the only other thing I have for new
business today uh is that we've talked a
bit uh at the bexa beautification fund
and I think with with Grant with you
about again trying to look at Google
north of Gould and seeing if there are
more trees we can add to that project
you did a couple years ago
and um Paige and I met with a resident
who's also a Bexley Bloomer today and
she'd be willing to help
Champion the project or Gould with her
neighbor who wants a tree but had missed
the deadline
and we felt that having a neighborhood
Advocate would give the program a little
bit more
um
uh Integrity with residents there
instead of us just saying we got this
trees let's plant them so we've talked a
little bit about the fact that we'd send
out a letter and then we'd maybe have a
coffee at Panera right near there and
invite people to bring questions and and
see if we get any more takers so
nothing to take right okay I mean that
does sound like a great model if in the
future we're doing something like we did
on was it casting ham where we were
planning a bunch of new trees to
actually invite that neighborhood to a
coffee and tell them what we're up to
before we do the planning um
great if we hadn't had such a short
turnaround time I mean what do we have
six weeks yeah it wasn't long no it's a
lot but but that is for sure it's yeah
it's a much better model it's a much
better model and
um and uh this woman who sells this
thing because the trees looks so good
she feels that more people are
interested because they know what it is
now
so excuse me they do just the Bexley
side no we did both sides okay and this
is for North culture you do the Columbus
side Columbus side okay yeah both east
and west side in fact I granted we have
more takers on the Columbus side yeah
out of 10 trees eight went on Columbus
side right right
but you know this woman is also saying
she just thinks that there's been a
little bit more attention on gold now to
cleaning up the houses I'm not sure it's
because of the ten trees but maybe just
understanding that people know that
someone cares makes a difference I don't
know
but it gives us a chance to have more
canopy and as you remember we have to
get the resident's approval because we
don't have any right-of-way
so
yeah
so for our get for our guests I don't
know if you've ever studied what right
of way is but right-of-way is very
important in city life because it
determines where the city can work
without having to ask residents or
commercial owners it's an area that
utilities use the city uses to plant
trees so
the the people that own the houses
actually own that property but the city
gets to use it without asking their
permission
is that good enough Jim and sometimes
they're surprised the city has that
right yeah so when we say that the city
doesn't have any right-of-way behind a
sidewalk we can't go plant a tree
without their approval because we don't
have it most cases every street has a
right-of-way for the city although it
varies from three feet to 60 feet just
depending on what street you're on and
perhaps because we're an old suburb more
contemporary suburbs might have more
standard right-of-ways but that's
right-of-way is really an amazing issue
it's a it's an amazing gift but it's an
amazing issue
so
all right lorianne do you have anything
for us from Sydney Council
okay
okay well lorianne I wanted to say you
were so gracious at our December meeting
um Thanking us off for our work and for
um you know handling our meetings
efficiently and professionally but I
have to thank you because after we had
our kind of brouhaha with our angry
resident on Columbia and we're
struggling trying to find a more um
which I say and easier and more
effective way of dealing with residents
the mayor really told me how you had
changed the way in which you interact
with people that came and how you
handled the meeting so if we've improved
it's because you went down the path
first so it's not fun to be a
Trailblazer but you know what other
people learn so thank you
that I know of and I always joke
yeah and you never signed up for right
yeah that's right well as I say we've
benefited so
if there's nothing else any anybody have
anything else do our get I do our guests
have any questions
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okay would you could you come forward to
the mic only because uh our meetings are
recorded and so you'd be able to go back
and see this and then uh your voice will
be able to be recorded a little bit
better on the video so just come up to
that mic and if you just state your name
and
um
yeah yeah and your affiliation and then
we'll take your questions okay so is the
mic on yeah I think it's on
there uh my name is Sabrine I'm here
with the Ohio State University I'm an
undergrad student and I had a couple
questions mostly about the volunteers
and how like your citizens are getting
involved in Civic service so this is
kind of something that my professors
like big on in Civic service so
um that's why I'm kind of bringing it up
but
um you guys talked a lot about
volunteers and I was wondering if
there's a rise in volunteers
um mostly in the younger Generations due
to all the talk and focus on climate
change right now
I don't know about other what the
numbers are but I mean I have
young younger children and they're just
uh they're busy they don't I mean they
volunteered in the schools but other
than that in the community there's they
just I don't see them on boards
right rather than uh seniors I'm sorry
I must say council member so I have the
joy of seeing this fabulous group and
and lots of other groups and I would say
that our volunteers that actually sit on
working conditions are
um probably on average closer to my age
which and I'm 53.
um but I would I would note that
especially when you were talking about
environmental issues if you were to look
at a food stack which is our funnel via
I don't know what these sexiest
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assumption Community I forget anyway our
e-zag
um
a school
um on it
um and humans and teachers from various
um
a private ad and our public schools that
are a little bit younger if that's what
you're asking but
um we're trying to think of all the
different volunteer organizations
I would say that the tree commission and
Architectural Review Board and our Board
of zoning appeals and planning are are
more regulatory bodies and
um and like esek is not it's a committee
it's not a commission so I think it
maybe appeals to a broader uh population
just because they don't they don't need
to abide by the same sort of rules and
regulations that regulatory body does
but I think that the volunteer community
across Bexley is strong okay and um I
just have one more question I want to
ask for the tree committee so I wanted
to know what's your guys's largest
legitimate concern versus the largest uh
legitimate concern from the citizens is
there a difference or do you find that
you represent the citizens of Bexley
very much the same and in terms like
biggest concerns that you guys work with
Jim do you want to take that sure well
then my perception is our largest
concern and maybe this is my own
perspective is maintaining as much tree
canopy as we can
um and trying to enhance that
and I think most citizens of Bexley
would say in the abstract sure they
support that but when they want to put
an addition on their house tree canopy
isn't their primary concern so I think
that's where there may be the biggest
difference in opinion between members of
the three commission and citizens is
that we're I guess I would say we're
more concrete and want it measurable
results for our tree canopy as Susan
said before we'd like to actually
either get back or Beyond The 39 percent
that we had last time we measured it
um
but others may have other perceptions on
where where we align with
citizens
Elena you work with our citizens all the
time do you have uh additional comment
yes I would I would second what Jim said
um I think that
people come to Bexley because it's
beautiful and part of what makes it
beautiful is not only the architectural
variety that we see in our homes but
that we have a lot of beautiful
tree-lined streets and so it kind of
just has that movie quality of like oh
God this is so pretty right a movie
could be filmed here
um but then when people are here and
then they find that the house that they
have might not meet for their family or
that it's old because I mean the city
was founded in 1908 and so a lot of the
houses are pretty old and if they need
to be you know upgraded or torn down
we're finding a rise in people buying a
house tearing it down and building a new
house and that didn't happen I think for
a long time in Bexley and that's
happening a lot more often now and
that's where we're running into people
want a bigger home they want a bigger
footprint there doesn't necessarily seem
to be the trend of
um that I've seen of let's reduce our
carbon footprint and make a smaller home
a lot of times people are like oh well
you know this house is too small for my
family and so I want it bigger and I
want a pool and if I have a pool the sun
blocks my I can't tan and so people want
to take their trees out so there's a
little bit of the
not in my backyard attitude of well I
love the trees in your yard but I don't
want them in my yard and so I think that
that's something that we're we're gonna
continue to struggle with
Grant do you have anything to add to
them uh no I think it's
um
people come here for the trees so
what they've all said is pretty much
hard for the course I have I have kind
of a an adage is that
I want to do what I want to do but I
want my neighbors to buy by the rules so
so you know if you have a self-interest
you tend to think the rules should be
interpreted in a different way than if
um you know if you're the neighbor on
either side so and that could be true
everywhere not just Bexley and I think
it probably is true everywhere but we're
a small community our property our lots
are not
large like they are in other suburbs
because as Elena said 1908. you're right
yeah so thank you so much thank you
Jillian would you like to come ask some
questions
okay okay
well I will give you my email address
and so that if you have some follow-up
questions when you write your reports
do that okay and you know when you um
decide to go into uh Public Service you
know come and see us so we can give you
some internships might be able to work
out yeah yeah so
um thanks to everybody first meeting of
the year and Lorraine thanks for working
in all things today be a good mom good
Civic person yeah
at all so okay that's good that's good
and Jillian and Brian thank you for
coming today we're glad to have you and
tell other people to come the tree
commission that was the most fun they
could ever have
thank you and we're adjourned