didn't
I don't know well we need to make room
for Mr Archer who's here for Mr
B like we did last time you
guys yes why wouldn't you I lot nobody
has ever said that close to Mark fishell
before
all
right grant you need to sit next to
Chief and then Jen's placard moves down
one so Grant your one
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over to
go all
right there we go all right everybody
we're a little scattered tonight but uh
we're going to get underway and then
it's all it's all going to come together
very slowly and magically and uh pretty
soon you're gonna see a cohesive group
up here anyway I'm going to call the
meeting to order it's uh Tuesday
November 14th uh meeting of Bexley city
council our auditor uh Matt mck is
coming in a little bit late so I think
we will have our City attorney do our
roll call for us oh there we go um Miss
Robinson we Mark her is here she's such
a she's such a
show yes Mr Kingler here miss fibble
here Mr Marcelino here miss Lamb key yes
Mr merkh here would you please rise with
me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge
allegiance to the flag the United States
of America and to the Republic for which
it stands one nation under God
indivisible liberty and justice for all
thank you um we do not have any
presentations or special guests unless
I'm missing something all right we do
have a uh ordinance with a special guest
having said I think actually because
we're waiting on our aitor show that
we're going to doct update oh okay so I
thought I thought he was going to hold
off and listen is what the last we'd
heard I told 60 we can make anything
happen yeah miscommunication watch the
magic it's coming together okay so we
were going to push that back a little
bit though right yeah it'll be it'll be
soon after our updates all right good um
and then Natalie do we have have any
speaker slips we don't have Natalie
either no speaker
slips we have a speaker slip in progress
right
here for uh for public comments not
pertaining to a specific
ordinance all
right
come I tell you what if you feel
confident about it I'm willing to let
you just step up here and
no all right the meeting will magically
sort of assemble itself here as we go
along I
promise president's report I do want to
mention uh congratulations to uh Danny
Hurley who is with us here tonight uh
election to city council along with uh
Alex Silverman we will be uh saying
goodbye at the end of the year to Matt
Kingler our beloved Matt Kingler and
also to our beloved Jen Robinson son as
well and uh this is not the time or the
place to do the gushing we will do the
gushing at an appropriate time uh but we
do have something special planned you
guys I just no uh no food allergies for
either of you no food
allergies all of it all of it do you
have any uh dermal reactions to like
exposure to food dyes or animal products
yes
or fear of heights fear
of heights itone of it can't have any of
it all right uh we'll move on to the
City attorney report then I I don't have
a report this evening we will be talking
about um issue two that recently passed
um during uh the meeting tonight
concerning the legalization of recre
recreational marijuana and the s in the
state and how that might impact the city
so I'll save my comments for later all
right make sure you give them to us
though and then I think we have no utter
for an autter report so we will move on
to the administrative
report thank you Mr President um Mr
bashore is recuperating from a um medic
a medical procedure so uh in his stead
and he's fine by the way in his stad uh
our assistant service director Grant
Archer is here Jen if you wouldn't mind
passing him a microphone uh Grant has
spent many many many meetings behind
this dis at the tree commission so I
know how excited he is to uh have his
first I think it's your first Council
appear first city council you will find
us to be wow
yes yeah you will find us to be like the
tree commission but less
polished perhaps that's nice you're like
speak for yourself Kessler um so uh you
do have the written update from the
service department uh Grant anything you
want to add to that or uh
highlight uh no I I haven't actually
seen it so I'm not going to add anything
to it all right anything else you'd like
to
report um I got a question about the
pond the pond is really close to being
finished and uh we're looking forward to
Residents enjoying it yeah we're out
there
today we were making sure that the steps
to the island and the tree would be at
the right height for your waiters yes we
determined they would indeed I'm just
GNA get a wet suit so you guys think
we're joking but we're not no there are
underwater steps to access the B Mr
Marcelino uh yeah I think you can pass
this one along um and I can ask Andy the
next meeting but I I had some inquiries
in regards to southb S and when the
Alleyways get redone and how frequently
that happens in terms of years there um
I think a couple of them are in pretty
rough shape in South and so just wanted
to pass that along and maybe get an
answer as to what the schedule is for
getting those repaved that's about that'
be helpful just for a council's
education uh we would repave our streets
typically in like a a 15 18 year sort of
renewal period alleys are much much
longer uh they get a lot less traffic
and there is a higher tolerance for a
little bit of roughness in the alleys
but we'll we'll get you an answer on
that um any other questions for Grant
Monique Grant welcome to your first city
council meeting I had two quick
questions for you uh regarding Drexel um
are we anticipating any additional
signage going up to notify folks that
the the road diet has somewhat changed
uh yes we're still waiting on the island
uh signage so let everybody know that
there's going to be an island there and
then we're also doing uplights so
ideally it'll be um won't be as dark out
there when do you
um expect the signs and the lights I um
the up lights are in for the trees but
I'm still waiting for Jess Howard and
they have not given me a date to run the
power from the street lights over to the
islands and the signs I have that's Andy
question and I'll let him know probably
within a month yeah and in the meantime
cones are staying up so those cones stay
up until those are in place okay I just
note with it getting darker because you
know less sunlight it seems a little
extra dark so we actually added more
cones okay uh act with the just with the
change in time and great some of those
thank you so and Grant also added some
Puck lights those lights at the the bull
nose to Drex brde you might notice I
call them Puck lights what do we call
them do you have a better name for that
I don't let's just call them Puck lights
yeah that's fine cool better than the
spikes you wanted so
yeah Mr
Clin just a qu a couple questions on the
Drexel project um any thought to having
lights in a tree I've had a lot of
compliments or comments about the lights
in the trees on Main Street and people
said that you know it would look great
up and down Drexel so any uh yeah
ideally yes we'll have to let the trees
get established for a couple years
before we can string them with lights
okay uh we might do the Trunks and not
the branches but we still need we still
need electric on the there also they're
also a more dainty tree than what's on
Main Street they're going to be I mean
in general they very similar to what we
have in these Medan yeah so if you just
picture they just they can't carry the
weight in the same way the mainst stream
ones will be able to because they're
more of an under story to the The Drexel
maple trees correct and then spring 2024
any idea are we in March April May or
June on the schedule for the repaving of
Drexel that is another great question
I'll pass on to
Andy and I can answer that actually ODNR
it's their schedule and we've asked them
to do as quickly as possible it's not OD
do I'm
sorry just came from an ODNR thing OD do
uh so we are at their Mercy we've asked
them to expedite it and be at the front
end but we'll have more information as
the winter
passes Jess did you have a question just
a quick one I think you already
addressed this with Council but just to
go on the record we do have reflectors
coming for the drexal mediums correct
like we have on Main Street and
Broad um I don't think we're going to
put as many uh broad Street's totally
different condition much faster um we
found that those medians were getting
hit from like I would say almost day one
which has not been the case with Drexel
um so we think Drexel's more similar to
Brien Fair Bexley Park it'll be 25 miles
an hour more similar to Main Street that
doesn't have those lights um so we're
not expecting to put them on uh we are
expecting to put them on at the front
end as you kind of like we have done at
Drex longroad so I would just ask that
we can continue to consider it as an
early dark morning hockey mom who drives
a Suburban yep um I think it's something
that we should
consider so I think
that uh I will just say it that speed
Lim is gonna go down to 25 and when you
drive 25 it's okay it's not as much of a
concern but we'll continue to monitor it
and um the signage also that goes up
will be much more obvious than it is
today that has that beer right uh that's
still in order so we apologize it's
taking a while to get those in it's
reflective as well so yeah that's those
are reflective signs they're similar to
what's on Main Street and you know again
haven't felt like those have been
necessary in other parts of the city but
we will continue to look at
it
yes yeah yeah so last weekend uh that
Island got demolished yeah and trees
will be replaced here uh this week on
Broad
that was that an was it obviously it was
an accident but was it someone just
missed it or was it caused by a
collision of some sort uh we don't
really catch people that hit the islands
they tend to just go through them and
then keep going it wasn't something that
the police reported I mean correct it
happened just happened and they kept
going we somebody wants correct one time
we got somebody we didn't have insurance
so it didn't really help us it didn't
help but we got
them is there anything we can
do about that I mean you guys are really
you're really pushing some buttons here
Sor I mean it just drive better well I
know but tell people not to drink and
drive and tell people not to text
attractive driving text I mean yeah
that's what it is I'll stand there and
I'll if I could have a a sign maybe in
all seriousness we have um you know we
put a lot of work into enhancing the St
Charles meeting because it was getting
hit more often than others and it's
still getting hit immediately we made
all these changes and it you know soon
after it got hit now the good news is
there has been a discernable drop in
speeding on Broad Street ever since we
put the meanss in so there's a cost
associated with that drop and speeding
and that cost is that every year we're
replacing trees as the trees event get
more mature they're going to be more
obvious more visible and a more
established driving pattern and we are
seeing a decrease in the number of hits
for sure Grant installed all those Puck
lights and there was a marked change
this year in terms of number of meds
getting hit so corre it's been
helpful I love that I wasn't I'm not
believe me I love the medians I think
they're beautiful and I and I and I love
what they do I mean I know that they
slow people down and I think that they
also add a lot of beauty um I just was
curious if there was just anything we
could do to help
prevent people from
getting hurt we're not allowed to put
spikes out there but we've looked into
that that's where the line is drawn Mark
will not let us do that and again the
lights the lights that we added the more
mature ones that have the where the
trees have survived are not they're not
getting hit as much I think just because
they're more visible so that will over
time fill
in yes Monique would you like to ask a
question about medians yes okay great
not to belabor the point but um if the
trees are a little more mature on Broad
Street the ones that are still standing
could we illuminate those
trees with the Christmas lights or the
ones that are the holidays I guess the
white lights it would look funny because
there's not as many of them and there's
a lot of
missing
uh a lot of missing um trees I I guess
it wouldn't look as cohesive as Main
Street does and I also don't think we
have electric an outlet on the islands
to install Christmas or holiday lights
if we can just consider it and obviously
we've got budget season upon it if it's
something that we need to maybe consider
allocating money for either to ass or
running electrical or having more
lighting I think I agree with council
member flyable that the more we can do
to draw attention hopefully it's one
thing that will maybe prevent some
accidents just just my
thoughts
okay Matt and I am a fan of the Oreo
method you start with a compliment you
get your constructive criticism in you
end with a compliment I will say I had
my first okay no that's good I like
wasn't fair I will say my first resident
tell me two days ago I was I was driving
on D he was driving on Drexel he looked
down he thought he was speeding and he
was going 32 miles per hour and I said
that's awesome yeah that's that's what
we wanted and soon will be speing soon
you will be speing but I'm just saying
it's that was proof to me that yeah it's
working well as as you guys know just to
sort of bring home what we've already
talked about but um you know we that
whole project came out from the
residents asking for it and the
residents on Drexel have by and large to
a great degree been delighted with it
and that's who our major constituency is
on that street and um obviously anytime
we make that change change is difficult
requires some adaptive patterns shifting
and um I think everything you guys have
brought up is important it's the sort of
stuff we talk about on a weekly basis in
terms of what else can we do what do we
need to do is are we doing the right
thing you know so it's all good thank
you any other questions for Grant you
like to talk about
stumps that's tomorrow night that's
tomorrow that's right well if you guys
Miss Grant after this meeting come back
to the tree commission tomorrow at four
o'clock you can you can see him there um
moving
on thank you
grant uh we are on to the finance
department update with beer anything
beer to
share have a
report I don't have a report this
evening but we could just jump down to
the finance committee want to talk about
um touch on that um motion just before
Council for the expenditure of funds
committee you oh okay while you're here
yeah motion to approve the CTC invoice
yeah do you want to explain that yeah it
it was just a PO should have been open
at the beginning of the year um without
going in too much I think it was a just
confusion between myself and Jordan who
works in the service department because
it's a PO on a salaries and wages
account and she says that last year I
told her we don't open POS on salaries
and wages accounts which is true it's a
seasonal wages account however we pay an
organization called
CPC which is
community
transition I can't I'm blanking on it um
but anyway it's like a halfway house and
we pay the organization and they pay the
the the guys that work and so we really
should have had a PO because it wasn't
technically salaries and wages we were
paying in organization
so so long story short the money was
appropriated correct for payroll but
it's an unusual unusual situation
because it's getting payroll is getting
funneled through a nonprofit
organization yes and we moved that out
of pay the wages and benefits section to
other expenditures for next year to
clear up all that confusion okay so we
need a motion to approve it because of
the expense and the fact there was not a
PO open
it I move to approve the CTC invoice in
the amount of
same sign motion
passes thank you
beer um moving on to the police
department update Chief
Lewis please take a look at our most
recent update here to answer any
questions nothing ah
add any questions for the chief Jess
Chief could you give us an update on the
town hall um that are taking place to
highlight safety after what's being done
in Beckley with our Jewish Community yes
ma'am so try to capture that um we
conducted our first with Torah EMT last
week was extremely well received we
invited our partners from the FBI joined
tourism task force had the special agent
in charge who oversees Cincinnati and
Columbus was a part of that um also
Rabbi Newman mer Kesler Steve Lesnik who
was a part of their security team and
Steve flowers who is the Jewish Columbus
security director um ultimately we
opened it up for conversation we talked
about First Amendment rights we talked
about um hate speech hurt speech we
talked about demonstrations protest um
we talked about our initiatives that
we're doing here in Bexley with our bomb
detection can9 and ways to um keep
people safe um we have our second Town
Hall scheduled at Auda sakam this
Thursday at 700 p.m um that is being
open opened up to some adjacent
synagogues that are adjacent to Columbus
um the mayor and I met with leaders
throughout Central Ohio recently some
other Mayors and police Chiefs they like
the model that we're doing here in
Bexley so Columbus Police has asked to
join us as part of that conversation so
they're sending representation that will
be with us on Thursday to include a
group that they're um specially trained
that they call a dialogue team and the
dialogue team are officers who've been
trained in negotiations and working with
both sides and having an opportunity to
allow people to still Express themselves
but maintaining some decorum so we're
excited about um them joining us as well
thanks Chief keep up the great work
thank you yes
ma'am to follow up on that is there will
there be a third meeting or is where
will that do you have a date for that um
we do not um so we're um we wanted to
complete the first two evaluate and then
um our third um synagogue we do there
and again um there's been some
conversation that the two adjacent
tempor Israel would and yes would
potentially um there's some kind of
consolidation so we've opened it up okay
um to them but our third we hope to do
before the end of the month and that'll
be a harest and can you make sure that
we are all aware of that absolutely ma'
ma'am the chief alled to that he spoke
in front of he actually spoke in front
of comma which is the uh help me the
central mayor and Managers
Association um and and he and our
mayor
wowed the rest of Central Ohio
leadership and um the uh Jewish Columbus
as well um then um
me it
um asked that asked comma if if they
would welcome um Jewish Columbus to to
come and speak in front of them and um
Jewish Columbus was so grateful for that
and I think all of um Central Ohio was
really impressed with our mayor and with
our police chief and and what they're
doing thank you thank you since we have
the largest number of Jewish indivis Cal
it is something that we really need to
take note of um on behalf of my husband
who is the incoming chair of George
Columbus thank you yes ma'am so so much
and um there were a lot of fexy um
citizens at that meeting and they went
around they went away from that meeting
get very very proud thank you thank you
both of you for that I would um thank
you I think the um Chief if you could
highlight uh prior to the comma meeting
we convened um other cities that have
synagogues in central Ohio to discuss
like some joint security efforts and I
think it's good for you guys to be
briefed on that a little bit just so
that you know there might be some some
further action down the pike and chief
if you want to talk a little bit about
just sort of some of the ideas that came
out of that yes sir so one of the the
concepts that we had presented you know
we have a school resource officer at St
Charles and that initiative has yielded
tremendous results I mean I was just
there uh with Jeremy the other day and
um looking at that from a business model
I think that there's an opportunity to
look at our synagogues in particular and
creating a synagogue resource officer um
the challenge for our synagogues is that
they hire off-duty police officers to
provide Safety and Security especially
those that have the daycare and they
have a really really tough time filling
those positions and so this business
model would eliminate that it would
develop a relationship with a singular
officer it would backfill and just do
away with that so we've presented that
um to that group as an opportunity um I
think that it would give us um just a
continued extension the visibility that
we currently don't have um we're looking
at backfilling with technology one of
the other Dynamics is um Steve and I
have gone to each individual synagogue
and conducted risk assessment um some of
the technolog is outdated some of it is
really not going back to a particular
source and so no one is really
monitoring that and so it's telling you
after the fact what's happened so we
think that there might be some
opportunities with license plate readers
with shot detection with cameras um
having those potentially funnel into the
realtime crime center with Columbus
Police um there are really some some
benefits that could build from that so
um we think we we presented a couple
really good ideas is that could become
the really the um in our opinion kind of
the blueprint for others to
follow thank you Chief um also after the
comma meeting um after Jewish Columbus
left the members all asked to have a
copy of the anti sorry the the the
resolution against sort of declaring
against anti-Semitism um so uh we sent
that around and I would expect that
we're probably going to see some more of
those potentially taking action on
locally which excellent that's great
news yeah Mr Marcel um looking through
your report here we knowe uh deputy
chief keng goof and his 25 years of
service which is excellent um officer
Keith Elliott is who's listed and this
could be a typo but I'd like to note is
that officer Chapman's in the picture
yeah it was it is Chapman so that is an
error on our part no worries I just want
to make sure and then was there another
was it was it officer Kim as well U and
officer Kim was two weeks after that t
and so we have since honored him he's an
extremely humble individual he did not
want the the Pick And The Fan Fair but
we still have H that's okay but they've
been here since I think I was a young
man so I just wanted to note that and I
was very excited to see Chapman riding
around on his bonus days here that long
huh Sam exactly so you all were adults
but I was a child excellent excellent
call out thank you very much for
highlighting them for for years of
service and that's excellent thank you
any uh any other questions for the chief
uh Matt just a couple things um as um in
my day job I come across city of
Columbus officers every day and I got to
speaking to one this past week and um he
he knows quite a few of our Bexley
officers and he's spoken to them about
working in Bexley and they Rave about it
about how much they love working here
well thanks so that's um you know that
that's great to hear that's what we
wanted um when we went out looking for
you and uh that means a lot to all of us
and then also it warms my heart to hear
you mention the realtime crime Center
because I'm the project manager for that
project for the city of Columbus so I'll
put you on my list of Partners to reach
out to when uh when we get there yeah we
um you know when Chief Brian and I
talked about it she said Gary great idea
I love it I'm GNA steal your idea but
it's 2027 before we break ground and so
um but I do think that there's an
opportunity that can build something
today and and work from this model and
eventually get to there so we're excited
so my goal is to have it built by 2027
okay so you heard hear first math it'll
be done by
2026 we go into we we start design in
about three two weeks okay so that's
awesome um any other questions for the
chief manique G if I just wanted to
compliment detective bird I had a chance
to take his heart safe Bexley class um I
believe last week and uh he did a
phenomenal job it was great to see so
many residents attend that and what a
great way to Showcase uh the talents and
education of our officer he did great so
I just wanted to share that with you
thank you so much I tell you um Lee
Nathans has been out in front in the
middle and in the rear on this effort
and I would be remissed if I didn't call
out Lee Nathans for his continued
support um he has just been a phenomenal
partner on so many levels I'm very proud
of our officers detective bryland
detective bird who have really stepped
up and done a number of these we're
nearly up to 200 of our residents have
gone through this we're looking to
expand it and offer some more
opportunity with this this initiative so
we're very excited about
it and chief are we are we at the point
yet where we're talking about the um
joint ter of the task force appoint
we're open um we've shared that publicly
so we can absolutely talk about that one
of the other things that has come out of
um our town hall was um we learned that
Bexley has never had a representative on
the FBI joint tourism task force so we
put it out cvas our officers see who had
an a desire to be a part of that um went
through a very intensive interview
process with um we had an FBI special
agent um deputy chief Goff and
Lieutenant holdren were the interview
panel and subsequently Melissa winterr
has been selected for that position so
we are excited about that this is not a
full-time commitment it is a part-time
commitment we just are not at the
Staffing levels where we could let her
go full-time um we'd love to but it's
just not realistic but um it takes about
six months for the background process
and so we're looking at sometime um late
spring early summer that she'll be able
to start that that capacity um she'll be
doing some shadowing leading up to that
but what this does it gives us a an
intelligence arm that we've never had
specific to what's going on not just in
the Middle East but across the globe so
this is a a really um a different
dimension for our police department and
adding a tool that we haven't had in the
past and then finally um you all
approved a couple years ago we started
talking about a housing stien for
officers and sat in the budget I think
it was maybe three years ago so every
year and we talked about it and it took
a little bit of time to get gain
traction and to roll out and to have a
written policy around it but I just want
to announced that we now have three
officers who are Bexley residents taking
advantage of that program so I would
call that a really big success
yeah one who had previous lived here and
then we have two new new residents
because of that so that's really really
great um any other questions for the
chief all right thank you sir uh Michael
price you are up next I'm GNA put yours
up on the screen sorry one second
yeah thank you mayor um nothing to add
to my written report but happy to answer
any
questions how great was the
Halloween how great was that so much
fun and um also how exciting that our
middle
schoolers our young teens were able to
be a part of it I think that is such
such a great thing I know that um missad
has been you know really advocating for
uh kiddos that age to have a place to be
and and I am so excited that
uh that the rec department made it
happen look at
them we had a we had a great turnout we
were capping it at 170 but how do you
turn middle schoolers away from a get
together so we end up with
232 wow 232 middle schoolers so it was
really exciting and the kids did a great
job they they uh it's fun to watch that
age group that age group sometimes gets
a bad rap I and I get to watch we've
been able to enjoy uh uh watching them
gather over a couple different events
and they've done a tremendous job so
kudos to the middle schoolers for how
they they conducted themselves they've
uh included everyone they've been a
really good group to work with so so for
the numbers we're looking in middle
school right now at about 200 kids per
class so you're looking at 600 kids in
Bexley middle school so when you take
that number of 232 that's really good I
mean we're looking at those percentages
right we're around 43 so percent I mean
great job to
Mike any uh questions for
Mike all right thank you thank you Mike
um I always promise that my uh report
will be short than it's not but this
time it might be a little bit because
you're gonna hear me talk a lot when it
comes to the budget presentation um but
I do want to sorry Mark I do want to
highlight uh that we do have our turkey
trat coming up on H Thanksgiving morning
so I hope to maybe I'll see you guys out
there because maybe I'll participate
that's a big
maybe sure I will um and Ed 411 I sent
you guys information about that just
want to remind you December 1st Economic
Development 411 is a regional
um sort of gathering of uh local elected
officials to learn more about Economic
Development practice and principles uh
throughout the region it's a really
great way to Network and and learn learn
more about Economic Development and what
other communities are doing and what is
uh what is hot out there um also we have
our manur lighting and Christmas tree
lighting both scheduled they are Sunday
December 3rd and then Sunday December
10th back toback Sundays um and I have a
couple photos to share with you um but
as I'm doing that I encourage you to
take a look I don't have pictures pulled
up right now but at Schneider Park go to
Schneider Aster and kind of walk down
there you'll see the steps are now in
place you'll see the birches are in
place for the Birch Walk and there's a
new um flagstone Overlook right along
the creek near the Gazebo to check out
it's still being worked on um but it's
really come along uh really nicely so I
encourage you to check that out
this is our uh our oh there's a lag
there's a delay on the screen it'll come
up here in a second maybe um there we go
uh Jess sad there at the groundbreaking
of our Commonwealth Park
Foles so uh we had there is actually a
group photo but I don't didn't pull it
up that's the one that that's the money
shot right there um so the ground has
been broken and work will be commencing
I think next week that's roughly where
the restroom is going to be right in
fact Jess Jess was really exact where
she dug that that's I think one of the
Footers right isn't that right um so the
I know that there was some talk a moment
ago about the Commonwealth Pond why is
my computer
Frozen come on
computer yeah that's it end of meeting
um Commonwealth Pond uh has uh taken
some time but it is really it is really
coming along and the reason it's taking
time is we have a contractor who is very
passionate about this project and he's
very precise which is important um so
the tree island has has is almost
complete water will start filling it in
the coming weeks um and we still will be
able to make our Polar Plunge on
December 26 boxing day uh there's a
photo right now of of the pond and that
is the finished level so you can see
that final layer of Flagstone or not
Black Stone really big Stone right here
there's a little bit of a that's the
rubber lining that's line up next to it
the soil is getting back filled up next
end against it the rubber line will get
cut down um before you know it the water
will start to fill it there will be a
tree in the Middle where right now you
see a plastic large bag um and uh it
will be finished soon also you'll notice
there's a lot of planting going around
that so in the next week or two that
planting will be completed and you'll
get a feel for what that Arbor walk
looks looks like so good progress on
that and that is the end of my report
for tonight and I'm happy to answer your
questions yes
Monique I don't have a question but a
couple minutes ago we
congratulated uh Danny Hurley and Alex
Silverman on their election and
congratulations to Mayor on another four
years as beex ley's mayor I appreciate
that you Monique that is true thank
you hi I think those results are final
yeah I think they are well they're
they're not they're informal
congratulations
yeah that concludes my report thank you
Mr President all right I think we move
to the consent agenda well or do you
want to go back to special guest first
oh we ready oh let's do that
then who's going to do that so that has
to be taken read well you have to make a
motion to take it off the table oh okay
I make a motion to remove ordinance
19-23 from the
table motion to remove ordinance 19-23
off the table from Mr Kingler seconded
by Miss Robinson all in favor say I I
all same sign all
right go
ahead all right um thank you very much
Mr President um we have with us today Mr
Greg Daniels who's here from Squire uh
to talk about this ordinance so um Greg
if you want to come up front I think the
thing we should uh probably explain on
the front end is that we're going to be
asking for an amendment to this
ordinance to not to make any changes
other than taking away a piece of it and
if Greg if you want to talk about what
that is and why and and just so you know
ahead of time that is in response to the
discussion here at council at our last
meeting about concerns about making this
effective prior to seeing a final
approved plan through
VAP all right good evening good to see
everyone I'm Greg Daniels I'm with
Squire Patton bogs I've been working
with the mayor on this project quite a
bit uh what this ordinance originally
did was three things it established a
tiff it approved a school compensation
agreement and it approved a tiff
agreement whereby the Tiff money would
be provided to the developer to build a
parking garage so two of those things
are still in the ordinance establishing
the Tiff and doing the school
compensation agreement as the mayor
alluded to what has been amended out of
the ordinance or will be once you take
action is the Tiff agreement with the
developer we had some discussions with
the developer they agreed to defer the
action on the Tiff agreement that would
now be by separate ordinance once you
get through the other parts of the
development process so pause there for a
second see if there's any questions by
anybody
okay the um proposed amended ordinance
is in your packet it is um called
proposed amended
ordinance and I'm going to pull it up
right
now one second
sorry
so
uh you can see it's a
striking the authorization of the of the
agreement and is the agreement
incorporated as an exhibit so that
section is struck as well as that's
correct so there's both an adjustment to
the title to remove reference to that
there's a section in the ordinance that
is deleted and then the exhibit is
deleted and some of the whereas Clauses
are revised to reflect what's going on
here
are there any questions sorry I don't
know if I ask or you ask are there any
questions I was just gonna
say to you and thank you tried to lay
this out in email I didn't get any
responses back so I wasn't sure if the
email went through no because it was so
good did we read it it was so well laid
out okay I didn't get a great thanks
Matt I just want to
say Matt thank you what I what I wanted
to do you send it out to The Ether
sometimes what I wanted to do was I
wanted to say thank you here at this
public meeting for that work I I think
this is a really really great resolution
to our concerns from the last meeting I
really appreciate the fact that you guys
put some time and effort into coming up
with something that I think we feel
comfortable with
so is The
Mastermind I would just like to say that
email was so good thank you Council
remember
Kingler should we should we should we
take a quick break so they can email
that back I just wanted some
confirmation I should have put a read
receipt on it or something I all right
so uh we are we we need a um we need an
amendment to this right yes and then so
um I will also I guess throw out any
comments or questions to the audience on
this as well since we have reached the
third
reading get in on the fun I know seems
pretty cool
if you would like you can approach the
the podium
here
I well you need to say it with the
microphone on so we can record
it Go and hit that button
there all I said was an embarrassing
statement that I'm not educated enough
to even understand what
this means maybe I need to read your
email
you know what I think I think maybe uh
we could do a little re re uh review
about that would that be good' be great
excellent thank you
so um I'm gonna pull up from our a
previous agenda your Tiff PowerPoint
yeah is that it this is something that's
just been going building this for a
while meeting after meeting after
meeting so yeah we're um so this is if
anyone wants to follow along with this
on our website it's from our October
24th meeting it's the last update we
have provided um and sort of I'll walk
through this and please ap please uh
forgive me ahead of time I haven't
really rehearsed this of course I didn't
rehearse it last time either but uh so
long story short Tiff stands for tax
increment financing it's a way to take
increases in property taxes and divert
them into a special fund that can help
pay for uh improvements that are allowed
to be paid for by the state of Ohio so
the state of Ohio allows um primarily
public infrastructure funds to be paid
for through a tiff there are some
exceptions to that but in this instance
we are asking for a tiff or the
developers asking for a tiff I should
say to be applied towards a public
Improvement the public Improvement here
is a proposed public parking garage um
and again the revenue for to help pay
for that parking garage would come from
an increase in taxes that are received
um this chart is large uh because uh
Tiff financing
is uh can be a little complicated but it
basically shows if you take some time to
digest it that um we're sort of showing
what happens with a parcel that has just
had a normal tax environment and then
what happens once a tiff has been
applied um and this instance you can see
that like those green bars that show the
Tiff there's a there's a lessening of
future tax revenue future tax revenue
for new taxes only um from some of the
County
Services um but uh the uh schools would
be made whole in this instance um and
the city would have the city quote
unquote the Tiff fund would have
additional Revenue that's that sort of
bar off to
the uh this side that shows a little bit
of an uptick and revenue from a tiff um
in this instance uh this proposed Tiff
is would apply to the Trinity apartment
site as we call it 2200 e Main Street um
it is currently a tax exempt site so
there are no taxes that come in which
this parel then behaves a little bit
differently um the base value on the
parcel will generate taxes at a normal
market rate that goes out to all the
normal recipients it would be any
increase above and beyond the base value
the Tiff is a 30-year Tiff which is a
it's a standard window of Tiff in Ohio
for most things but particularly for
public parking garages and in this
instance the Bexley school district has
voted affirmatively to participate in
the Tiff um in this instance they have
allowed access to uh what would
otherwise be school Revenue uh under the
following conditions that there is a
payment in Le of taxes to them so
there's a portion of Revenue every year
that's coming from the project and that
any excess Tiff revenues Beyond The Debt
Service payments would go to the schools
and
um that there' be income tax sharing on
income tax from new office employees in
the second floor space after any income
tax incentives are considered um the
remainder of the um Revenue would then
go to uh pay for debt on the public
parking garage and the parking garage
would be open and available to the
public including this site um we
anticipate using that parking garage
alongside users of the site itself
and
um there is additionally a tax
productivity analysis which this is not
the complete analysis the complete
analysis is on that same section of our
website as well as I believe our current
agenda uh which just shows what the tax
productivity looks like on on the
original exempt condition what it would
look like under the proposed incentives
and what it would look like under post
Tiff conditions um some other examples
of tiffs and Bexley include
uh the Ohio State uh Savings Bank where
Tiff helped pay for um Public Utilities
at the site and
demolition um Tiff is used on this site
it it is actually what enabled us to
move off of our Old City Hall site um
when GI Eagle came in so we are paying
for the debt service for the carpeting
and ceiling tiles in this room through a
tiff uh Tiff Revenue uh agreement in
which the schools also participated in
that as well um tiffs have been used
throughout Central Ohio for very similar
projects in Dublin Grand View and Upper
Arlington among and Columbus among other
jurisdictions where they're being used
to help pay for structured parking and
indeed I think it's important to note
that in most cases the cost of
structured parking is such that um
multistory development is not feasible
where Structure Parking is required
without some sort of a tiff contribution
we've seen that throughout uh throughout
jurisdictions throughout Central Ohio um
it might be feasible in New York City
it's not feasible in Columbus Ohio and
so if we want to see and I know there's
some disagreement about this but if we
want to see um a new office space new
retail space new housing in Bexley um on
Main Street with a density basically
above two stories then uh public parking
garage is in is going to essentially be
a necessary component in most of these
developments and Greg is there anything
I'm nervous doing this presentation in
front of like one of the thought leaders
on Tiff in central Ohio so uh can you
please great me afterwards um but
anything you want to clarify just giving
an incomplete for now right yeah that's
good uh well I I think you did a very
good job and I would just um confirm you
know we work on tiffs all across central
Ohio um even in the core of downtown
Columbus where you can actually generate
paid parking you still need Tiff support
to get those garages done it's just you
can't generate enough revenue from the
garage itself to pay for the ever
escalating costs of these garages so
very very common every parking garage
I've worked on over the past 25 years
has had a tiff component to it to make
it
happen Mr cleer you wanted me to bring
up an email the one you sent Council
yeah a graph well I actually sent it to
Mrs hen I don't know if I sent it to
council did I not I just sent it to you
it's a graph so I I try to dumb
everything down when it comes to this
because it confuses the heck out of me
but I came up with or I found and then
modified a pretty good graph
representation to sort of explain in my
mind and I think it's right okay there
you
go right so that's the property value at
the beginning that's the typical tax
value it gets frozen
over the length of the Tiff whether it's
15 20 or 30 years whatever the
incremental value that it goes up was
say it's worth $2 million now it goes up
to $10 million that $8 million we
collect taxes off of that and it those
taxes off of The increased value goes
goes back to pay for the public
Improvement of the project is that right
so but we continue to collect the
taxes we continue to collect the taxes
at the bottom that's very important we
continue to collect the taxes on the
Frozen
value right yep cor that's correct and
in in for this project and really for
most projects that incremental value is
going to be a lot bigger than the Frozen
value that's what you want right you
want to use the tips to incentivize a
huge investment in your community which
is the plan for this parcel so that
incremental values will be off off the
top of the chart there and correct me
wrong the main street value is currently
tax exempt so it will be reais once the
sale goes through so we're not
collecting any taxes on it now but we
will and it'll be that Frozen value what
whatever it's appraised at it'll come
back right whatever the current value is
will start to be taxed and that is an
unusual feature of this particular deal
most of the time you're doing a tiff on
a parcel that's already subject to taxes
but again this parcel's not been
generating taxes in anyone's memory
right welcome to
Bexley we have a lot of tax exempt
institutional land so mat your cartoon
actually would have the typical tax
value be like zero right boom like that
so that's but I pulled it off the
internet so I couldn't do that right
yeah and and and again I think it makes
sense to point out too that everything
we're talking about here taxwise is
property taxes correct so obviously
there are going to be income tax there
is going to be income tax generated from
the this project through the you know
from from the starting with the people
working on it but of course more
importantly the people will be living
and working at this
new development yeah and it's again a
lot to absorb just sitting on the screen
but in that same folder in our current
agenda you'll find it's been a past
agendas this uh tax productivity
analysis that just sort of shows all the
different sources and uses of funds
including income tax revenue that would
come in from payroll to retail and
office and um from residents to new
UNS but Matt I want to commend that is a
fine chart fine chart indeed when I when
I see spreadsheet and I see Matt's
cartoon I feel satisfied thank you okay
I get lost in spreadsheets I really do I
also uh I I mentioned some of the tips I
just want to I was sort of jotting down
some more notes the what it we call it
the Connells flowers building but it's
now the Snap Fitness building also has a
tiff on it um which is from early 2000s
that's continuing um The Drexel facade
received Tiff Revenue um which is was an
unusual deal but it was uh approved for
Tiff and then cohatch which is about to
open on Main Street is a tiff project as
well just remind
you very similar
terms um on our side
yeah any other
questions
shoot if not I think then uh Matt do you
have a you haven't made a motion on I
make a motion to amend proposed
ordinance 19-23 motion to amend
ordinance 19- 23 by Mr Kingler can I get
a
second second by M Robinson um and then
now we go to you you gotta
workg all right uh Miss zad yes M vible
yes Mr Kingler yes M Lamy yes Mr Markham
yes M did I say Robinson did Miss
Robinson yes Mr Marcelino yes I don't
have the cheat thing that
motion is amended or I'm sorry ordinance
is amended and
now I make a motion to pass amended
ordinance 19-23 say motion to adopt
ordinance 19-23 by Mr
Kingler second second by Ms Robinson um
and then we'll go back to you all right
M Lamy yes Mr Kingler yes Miss Robinson
yes Miss sad yes Mr merham yes Mr
Marcelino yes Miss VI yes and motion is
adopted impressive randomization there
Mr official I try I
[Laughter]
triy thank you and thank you very much
all right good
deal that's some
work all right there where are we we are
now on first readings I think consent
agenda oh no I'm sorry you're right
consent
agenda all right on the consent agenda
we have the mini meeting minutes from
October 24th
2023 all right comments or questions on
the consent
agenda if not I move that we adopt the
consent agenda can I get a second second
second by Mr
Kingler um Mr official again Mr
Marcelina yes Miss F yes Miss sad yes M
Robinson yes Mr Kingler yes Mr merham
yes Miss lampy
yes
uh consent agenda is
adopted so we are rolling to First
readings with no second and third with
no second or third correct is resolution
7-23 a first or a
second it is passed okay so let's move
oh that wasn't even on mind
okay bonus so we moving on to
3723 gotcha first reading of ordinance
3723 to authorize supplemental
appropriation for calendar year 2023
introduced by m
Lamy you hurt yourself doing
that so sorry to have have to ask you to
talk oh okay sorry I just needed um
needed a moment um mayor I'm going to
turn this over to you regarding some
supplemental Appropriations for some
special events overtime and some um uh
additional Appropriations for our
Recreation fund as well as our water
fund yes and I'm gonna make sure Beach
is listening up because I am uh
marginally familiar with this I'm in I
will tell you Special Events over time I
think we talked about already U that we
had not budgeted adequately for that
this year um we have since corrected
that prop the draft budget that we're
about to talk about so before you ask it
that has happened also I want to note as
was talking through it with um Mike
Price and laurianne today as she was
asking some good questions about what
was leading some of those into the woods
and Brew Fest are both new events um
probably the biggest new events that um
have generated some of this additional
overtime and those are being compensated
they're covered we still have to pay
them um so we still have to appropriate
the money but then they get paid back
from the event so that's a little bit of
a difference from some of our other
events
your and then beer do you want to talk
about uh salaries and wages and water
Administration uh yes I can talk about
the water Administration um we've just
incurred some overtime this year it's
about6 or 700 right now I'm allowing to
go to a thousand we had nothing in the
budget um and I'm not sure Andy would
probably be better to speak to what's
generating that over time but I noticed
that we had SP
spent $600 or 700 with no appropriation
thought we should clean that up
okay and I think Mike sent out an email
pretty much detailing
his yeah I'm I'm happy to talk about uh
05 526 and 05 580 those are that's um
before and Aftercare is 526 and 580 is
summer camp uh and um if you would look
at the current um estimates on revenue
for the year versus uh our projection
when we passed the budget in January
December of last year um the original
revenue for backpack was
$460,000 our newest projection is
$536,000 and in Camp our projections
going into the budget was
$535,000 our newest projection is
$578,000 so this is a reflection of the
fact that we've had more kids we had
more kids in those programs um and
therefore we need more staff um um and
uh the additional costs associated with
these Appropriations was more than
covered with additional
Revenue okay I like the
offset yeah good work by the way that's
that's a really really good reason to
need to appropriate some more
funds any any questions from
Council
okay beer is there any need for EXP Ed
action on these no
okay okay so I guess we're moving on to
or first reading of ordinance 38-23 to
establish compensation for
non-bargaining unit of the employees of
the city of Bexley effective as of
January 1 2024 M
lamkey thank you mayor I'm going to turn
this one back over to you as well given
that it's a pay ordinance that we are
going to read simultaneous with our
proposed budget so those who have
followed our budget process uh for years
would note that we typically introduce
our pay ordinance a week after we
introduce our budget ordinance we
resolve this year to do them together
just so it's a little bit more coherent
um so that's what you're seeing here um
there is
a there variety of smaller positions
part-time positions and then our nonbing
pay scale positions which are attached
as
exhibit a and are in your packet here um
the really the Highlight re is that
we're looking at a 4% cost of living
adjustment we continue to
see um cost of living outpacing what we
what were historic Norms um so we're
trying to keep our uh pay competitive
and fair uh given you know additional
costs that employees are Reckoning with
so that's the proposal as part of the
budget um and obviously it's an
interchangeable discussion as we go
through our budget itself here coming
up sounds good you will note if you're
really eagle-eyed there are some
proposed new positions but again we will
discuss those in the budget and you
can't do anything with this unless
there's money appropriated in the budget
so the two go hand
inand any questions from
Council and last last but not least we
had a problem earlier this year where I
think we had not accelerated some of our
part-time positions and we've made sure
to double check that this year and we've
had a couple checks and balances going
through this ordinance so far and I
expect that we're going to continue to
look at this closely as we go forward
obviously sounds good all right moving
on all right we are now have we now have
a first reading of ordinance 39-23
authorizing Appropriations for the
calendar year beginning January 1st 2024
to reappropriate all unexpended opwc pro
project Appropriations for 2024 and to
confirm the appointment of mar official
City attorney M Lamy all right folks
this is the one you've been waiting for
Budget season first reading of our
budget um it's my understanding tonight
that our police chief is going to be
presenting on the police budget and I
think the mayor is also going to be uh
maybe talking about some assumptions and
other parts of the budget mayor do we
know who's going to speak at the second
reading um so the the the major speakers
are going to be the service director at
the next meeting and then our rec
director Mike Price will be at our our
third reading um and then we will fill
in uh smaller sort of accounts through
that
process okay sounds good take it away
okay so I'm GNA provide you guys with a
very big picture overview of where we
are with this budget and then we're
going to get much more
granular um as we uh move forward
making myself a quick note here sorry
um before I start talking about uh what
we're looking at in 24 I want to remind
us where we've come from
so uh throughout
2023 we have enjoyed approximately $1.1
million budget surplus projected that's
projected on our budget right now we
don't know what exactly that looks like
at the end of the year but that's a
projected
Surplus we've had about it feels like
we've had more income tax growth but
we've we've had a we're expecting about
2.6% income tax growth in 23 from
22 um the reason why it feels like we've
had so much more is because we estimated
lower income tax receipts in 23 than we
received in 22 um partially because we
were being conservative partially
because we didn't really quite realize
how much up 2022 would end up coming in
um and through that we have also managed
in this past year to place $1.9 million
into Reserves including our rainy day
fund the infrastructure fund the capital
fund and the pool replacement fund which
was new for
2023 some of our major accomplishments
over the year have
included um our year of the parks
project and its Associated
groundbreakings and ribbon cuttings and
uh celebrations are through the
leadership of Chief Lewis restructuring
and expanding investment in our Police
Department we have a I would say a
substantially different leadership
structure in the police department in 23
than we did uh prior um and we have um
you know new
Services um that we're providing to
Residents through that department and
it's been a really outstanding
investment and again I think think the
chief is I know we have already but
we'll continue to do that um and we've
also accelerated investment in our sewer
infrastructure we have really um taken
our sewer project list and fast-tracked
it so that we're we're uh for better for
worse you gotten some of those phone
calls uh smells and basements that sort
of thing those are because of that
accelerated investment and that's um
part of what happens when we work on
that
infrastructure we talked about Drex a
little bit today that had a lot of sewer
infrastructure as a component of it um
so in 2024 as we look forward um there's
not a slide for this but I'm going to go
over some of our kind of highlevel
assumptions um I should have put a slide
in I apologize that's U something I'll
add in the future but um we have assumed
a 4% cost of living adjustment as we
discussed with our nonunion employees we
do have a police bargaining agreement
coming up that will take effect in
January 1 of 2024 so we expect that
number might differ with that agreement
um we'll see how that how that all
shakes out right now we have just
plugged 4% into those uh wages just to
have a placeholder for
them um we are assuming a growth of our
income tax of 2.6% that's the same we as
we received this year and oddly it is as
be know that's a magic number we've been
using for a while that has been a number
that a while ago we agreed was sort of a
average increase in our income taxes and
we believe that we've seen we saw a lot
of acceleration after and during coid
because of a change in the environment
uh of the work from home culture we
haven't seen that soften a whole lot
this year so we're expecting to see
generally the same of growth as we've
had traditionally um and then we have
had a a pretty decent year in our health
insurance plan and as you know we're
self-funded so we expect no increase in
fact we are we are not going to have an
increase going into next year um on our
insurance rates so that's also part of
our core
assumptions some of the enhanced
services that we are proposing in this
budget include additional tree and
grounds maintenance crew um to respond
to some concerns we've had just about
lagging
um tree removals tree plantings stump
grinding um and also we have an
additional ground maintenance individual
and I will tell you I think you guys
have often asked it's great that we're
doing all these Parks uh how do we keep
them up and that is part of the pl so
there is an additional person dedicated
to not just year the parks but overall
just an expanded I would say expanded
Civic infrastructure as it is it
pertains to beautification and Hardscape
and plantings and you know it feels like
every year we're adding flower baskets
or flower pots or lights to trees which
don't come free um so those are all are
reflected as changes in our budget
additionally um we' continued to have
concerns about code enforcement
Effectiveness um you know we have one
code enforcement officer he's also our
fire
inspector um he is you know constantly
running around responding to concerns uh
he is very much on top of Code
Enforcement but there are things that
fall through the cracks and we could do
better than we've been doing so um we're
going we're proposing adding a building
department assistant that would function
almost as like a code enforcement
dispatcher so imagine somebody who's
sort of keeping track of what needs to
go when and helping uh send things out
when Dave is out of the field um helping
to work the front desk do permit
receiving with the building department
um so we think that will add a lot of
value uh to our residents except for
those who have cod in violations they
might not like that as much um we also
continue to uh reflect in our Budget
moving forward with improvements to
Ferndale Mayfield and environmental
justice efforts in that area um
continuing uh to completing our Park
improvements there AR I shouldn't I
don't want to we don't have a whole lot
of year of the parks uh in fact I don't
want to Miss speak I don't know of any
new money for year of the parks in this
budget but we do have some projects that
we anticipate to continue to improve our
Parks some of the things that were on
your guys's wish list that we talked
about three different outdoor ice ranks
and three different areas just kidding
I'm sorry that was that was a cruel
cruel
joke we're still working on those
Concepts
um and I don't want to I don't want to
go through our Capital fund too quickly
but we do have for example uh the the
playground at Jeffrey Park is due for
replacement some some that was mentioned
by a couple of you guys um and there's
some other Park improvements that are
reflected in the budget investment in
our senior services senior both through
senior programming as well as continuing
to hone that temporary facility um for
the time being to make sure it's serving
our our senior population really well um
and we are putting a placeholder in for
to we've we had a placeholder as you
know we do not currently have a
dedicated Communications professional we
are keeping funding in for uh that um
and and potentially alongside at
somebody who can do both development
work as well as Communications um and
we'll talk more in depth about that
proposal in the coming weeks
um and I don't want to Veer too off the
course but I'll just share some thoughts
you
know uh during my time here we've had a
development director for for a little
bit I've worked worked with a
Communications coordinator a
Communications and development
coordinator back to Communications
coordinator so that's a job that has
been you know it's kind of changed as
needs have changed but I anticipate that
in the coming two or three years at
least that we're going to have a lot
more development activity and so um I do
think it's a position that we need to
invest in uh to face that really good
and really positive challenge coming up
so we'll talk about that more in
depth um and then among all that again
we are presenting a balanced and
sustainable budget um this budget
proposes an investment of over $2
million going back into our rainy day
fund our infrastructure fund our pool
replacement fund and our Capital fund it
also proposes spending some money out of
that Capital fund but that is the amount
of aggregate contribution there and it's
also proposing
um to to move out of the American Rescue
plan fund the remaining funds to go into
the water and sewer fund to continue to
provide that robust fast-tracked
infrastructure investment uh that we
need to make in our
infrastructure and then because who
doesn't love a colorful chart um I
downloaded this from the internet as
well that's not true I didn't um but uh
this tells the story so 2024 is our is
our proposed budget the yellow uh bars
show you the amount of money that we are
acre in those reserves that we've talked
about um it tells the story that as we
have seen a surplus of funds we have
inve we have socked it away a little bit
because we know that the thing that we
are facing most in uh the future beex
one of the things we're facing most in
the future beex I shouldn't say the
thing is just this agent infrastructure
a need to invest in it a need to invest
in community additive facilities like
our parks our public spaces our
gathering spaces our populations that um
you know really benefit from some of
those facilities we've been working on
so um we know that we're going to need
to have a pretty substantial uh amount
of savings built up to tackle the fle
Mayfield area and continue to push for
justice in that area and some of the
other places in the city that we've been
focused on so that's why those those
figures are doing what they're doing and
that does reflect in 24 even though we
will present to you um um a a pretty
substantial Capital fund proposal that
does reflect what the capital fund and
all these others would look like at the
end of 2024 so we're seeing growth in
our reserves um with
that uh I
brought uh our our chief here for good
softball proposal of uh the police
department budget um so Chief if you
want to talk about um that um before I
that let me just open the floor to any
kind of larger questions before we delve
into the det details I guess if that's
okay any sort of larger questions
knowing that you'll hear a lot from me
in the coming weeks as we go into the
minua yes Sam it'll probably play into
the Chiefs here momentarily but are we
have we thought about recent
developments in terms of safety needs
for the next following for the following
year I mean we already have a police
officer here for Council meetings I
anticipate there'll be many other events
that require additional so what type of
thought went to that and lead into your
presentation I think for that a bit if
you want I'll make sure the chief
addresses that any other
questions okay we will move
into beer really is making sure that our
glasses are working on this one if you
go to
the police department
expenditure maybe I'm just getting
older
maybe maybe I not need not to fit it one
page
anymore that white
space you
goodel what's
that this is a Beacher thing not a Gary
thing he he told me to keep it
really
Samy told me to keep it really
small wor not if you use your electronic
device you can zoom into your heart's
content it will get nice and crisp on
your screen uh Chief if if you would
sort of talk about some of the big
picture
um proposals that you have Incorporated
in your budget and then we'll open the
floor for
questions correct so just a very quick
over you know obviously um coming in I
knew there was a honeymoon opportunity
um city council was extremely gracious
in opening up opportunities for us to
grow develop to go a completely
different direction I think that it's
safe to say that we've yielded a lot of
success as a result of that support and
what we've been doing from a community
from a Safety and Security perspective
um part of that Vision coming in was a
three-year strategic plan and in that
first year a lot of that Vision was
executed um what you'll see in The
Proposal we're about 2.6% over the
previous budget and so when you look at
from a big picture that's not a um it's
really kind of a a cost of doing
business if you will and looking at some
of the Dynamics specific to um for
example the question about Personnel
what it takes to and we estimate about
$7500 per officer when we're having to
outfit a new officer from weapon uniform
Etc that's even outside the training so
you'll see some Patrol equipment um that
number going up a little bit from
previous but overall um this really is a
um sustainable Year from the police
department's perspective we want to
build on a lot of the success we had in
our first year with me coming in and
then that third year we'll re-evaluate
look at that three-year strategic plan
and then um continue to close it out but
open to any questions comments um one of
the things that I know um Mr Marcelino
asked about um you know we have a pretty
robust overtime budget I think we've
done a lot of due diligence and looking
at um best practices um adding that
additional component here for our City
Council meetings looking at what is City
sponsored and what is not um how can we
back fill and provide levels of support
um fortunately you know with Beer's
assistance I think we've done a really
good job over the years in managing that
so we did not ask for increase and I
think we can continue to meet the
challenges Mr Maro excuse me Mr Mar all
good I can talk abut gets reelected and
forgets who I am
um we discussed here uh earlier you and
I personally in regards to some uh
training uh additional training
education for uh the officers and I
don't want to call it religious
sensitivity but just religious educ
ation so uh they are better equipped to
handle certain situations that I think
we're going to unfortunately be facing
at this time I see that we're not seeing
an increase there um have you put any
more additional thought into uh what
that looks like next year and
potentially do you need more money for
it um thank you for that and um the
mayor knows this and I'll share it
publicly here we are doing a Judaism 101
course for all of our officers um it
starts Monday um this is coming at no
cost um Rabbi Newman has agreed to put
on this presentation he's meeting with
each shift um doing a two-hour block um
I think it's important that we have this
um Dynamic you know I think that with
cultural sensitivity unfortunately
things have become very black and white
and we have forgotten that there are
many other stakeholders not in just this
community but surrounding and so that
Judaism 101 course is something that uh
I'm excited for us to share and to
understand how call volume is impacted
by what may be happening
directly to our Jewish community and so
um we'll do that Monday Tuesday and
Wednesday with his
assistance um followup or followup just
it completely safy chair has the
privilege I I will I I appreciate that
and that's wonderful that somebody's
donating their time I'm I'm a bit
concerned personally that there might be
additional training that's needed that
may not come free um and so I would just
encourage you to reconsider potentially
if you do want an increase for us to
consider so we don't have to come back
for a secondary uh uh ordinance separate
from this um also if there are any kinds
of uh trainings frankly around the state
of Ohio through the colleges or anything
like that that you might want to find a
leader sure to send to potentially like
Sergeant over anybody like that um I I
would welcome it personally given our
our world so not to give away all of our
money but I know it's something that
you're passionate about and I think
benefit our community so just consider
it point point well taken and we will
definitely reevaluate and look at again
I think it it's there are a number of
Dynamics in just building around that
training model where um it may not be in
this you know particular case where it
is we're not having to pay for it but we
do have to bring in some exports so um
we'll definitely look at that yes sir
yes
sir Miss
s Chief Could you um help explain under
the contract leads in 911 it looks like
we're expecting to spend less
next year about 18,000 less so and
there's a lot of line items over here
and I just needed education on where
we're looking at UND spending and why
and yeah so the um with the 911 service
we are a um a PF which is a um acronym
for an accreditation of being a a hub to
manage 911 calls and I think a lot of
that really is just some more of a
market price and less of our
negotiations and just evaluating the
terms of those agreements so it really
is is less about us one of the things
that um you know we're looking at um
upgrades and challenges with radios
communication so there's always some
peace um one of the things I just
recently the governor just appointed me
to the lead steering committee and being
a part of that representing small
agencies from around Ohio um the FBI is
requiring more oversight into that um
program in and so there is um a cause
and effect that happens with that and so
it really is just contingent on on what
the market is saying
okay Miss
Robinson um based on the amazing news
that you shared earlier about having
more officers moving into the community
do we think that we need to allocate any
additional dollars to uh do get a sense
that anybody else might be wanting to
take advantage of that stien it's a
great question I think so I think as we
look to expand and bring new officers on
and they have a very fresh perspective
about the department about the community
I think it is um wise and and I would
love to to be able to do that um that's
a good problem to have is to have more
officers here um you know one of the
things that mayor and I talked about
especially with some of our officers who
may be living at some of our apartment
complexes is using some of um you know
we may have an unmarked or Mark car
that's not getting used heavily that we
could put in those facilities to help
with break-ins Etc so um we're thinking
of some very creative ideas without
impacting the budget uh but I do think
that it it's um it may be helpful I
don't know that we've ever really
planned a number from the police
department with the residency um but
it's definitely conversation okay and
it's a good point because actually I'm
aware of a fource officer looking right
now so um we will adjust it accordingly
okay thank you and Sam one second Matt
had his hand raised over
here uh just a couple quick questions um
one I thought National Night Out was
amazing and I know I think you plan that
in like 72 hours so have you thought
more about that overall budget with
proper planning that you will you'll
need and is that included we did it is
included in this it was a it was one of
the best nights of the Year well thank
you thank you and we have you know um
again can't take all the credit the
mayor was extremely supportive in
providing that level um some finances to
help us um really outside of our and you
know Mike was great Mike and I literally
went out spit ball and he said hey what
do you think of this location he said
I'd love to see if we can make this work
so that space was donated to us um
clearly having the law enforcement
Partners come in was a big part of that
but our real expense came from food and
from the bounce houses and I think that
um you know I think our model moving
forward is going to be uh partnering
with local businesses give them an
opportunity to showcase their food have
them donate product as opposed to the
city shouldering um the brunt of that is
is uh we know that trailer and the hot
dogs were were not fast enough but I
think we can shift that model still
provide a level of service bring in some
business and let them be a part of it
okay and follow up how is the
um the building the police department
how how's the chiller how's the air
handler how's the building maintenance I
know it's what was it Building 200 um so
uh 2009 it was complete yeah and so one
of the things that we've talked about is
you know I have a deferred maintenance
mindset and that is um predictable is
preventable so I've sat down with Paul
and one of the original Architects and
we've now created an 11year map and
looking at that map what are some of
these predictable things that we know
that roofs after 25 years are going to
be so and we now have that predictive
model so it's something we just
completed and that's something that um
not in this budget cycle but in next
year we'll be able to really start to
map out and have those predictable
indicators and plan in advance as
opposed to coming and asking for that
money um as each incident takes
place great and so you guys can look
forward to that we'll we'll create that
as kind of a syncing Fund in our Capital
fund just as like a note in the fund
sort of like we do with the street uh
Road and Alley Levy
money
Monique um I wanted to Echo what council
member Robinson said about maybe uh
reexamining the the stien not only is
there um enough for more officers but
also is the amount sufficient obviously
everything nowadays is costing more and
I assume morage and cost of housing has
also gone up significantly earlier
tonight Chief you talked about about um
maybe investing in some additional
technology for um some of our synagogues
and other places of worship um would any
of those pieces of Technology be in this
budget or would they be uh maybe like in
a capital none of that would impact um
our budget um these are federal and
state Grant monies that are available
that are um we'd be working with Jewish
Columbus and and other state
stakeholders in helping them write the
grants um there's an a significant
amount of money that has been coming in
to help support their Safety and
Security so this is to augment so we
would really help them design um and
craft the the language but we would not
be impacted at all from our budget okay
and the same might be true if if if we
go down the route of a synagogue
resource officer or a Cadre of those or
a sort of umbrella oversight um we
anticipate that that would be um
something where we receive funding for
that but so you would you would have an
ordinance or proposal coming back to you
for those for those
items and my second comment was um in
the past for at least the past couple
years we've
appropriated I believe it's been a
consistent $22,000 for Community
programming I don't think there's been a
year where we've ever come close to
spending all of that and given the
amazing work that I know your department
has been doing um are we budgeting the
right Mount um we have so many positive
Community programs that are going on now
from our C program um you know obviously
the the Hart Beckley um I can go on and
on I think that it's still you know
again I wanted to be very
mindful coming back before this group of
not asking for more money and doing um
what's needed to be done with with
really the cost of doing business and
understand it would be a slight
increase um but not too much I think
that we've been successful at
Partnerships we've been successful at um
others externally partnering with us and
and helping support a lot of our
initiatives and I think that um you know
next year it may be a time to really
re-evaluate and look at some of those
from programming National out Etc um and
building on that success that I want to
be able to show something tangible
before just asking for money and really
not having a very very deliberate plan
as to where it's going and and provide
that great thank
you is the question sorry sorry that's
right Mr President Sam's been doing this
for about five
minutes you know I'll tell you something
Chief I sit here and I I look at it and
I think that that's a fair point that
you don't want to ask her too much too
early without actually delivering but I
think I'm pretty confident when I sit up
here amongst my colleagues saying that
you've delivered and we're seeing that
in that Improvement and the officers are
just excellent and I want to make sure
they're appreciated we can we can have
these types of events so they they they
know how appreciative we are what they
do um and and I assume you have some
more tricks up your sleeve and so I'm
you know I I understand that in the past
perhaps the 20,000 was never touched and
I think there's probably a good reason
for that and I think community policing
is what we sought when we hired you and
brought you in to help uh change the
direction of our our Police Department
so again I'm going to highlight that to
say if there's more that you're
interested in I would probably Advocate
it I'm not you know advocate for it I'm
not saying that we'll give you a blank
check but I I certainly would welcome
any ideas because on the events that
you've thrown so far you've delivered um
a question in regards to salaries uh I
do see an increase there uh I know that
we are close to fully staffed but what
are we thinking in terms of the next
year for additional officers any other
ancillary type of additions to the force
like another dog or anything that we
might be thinking about that we need to
consider yes sir so um a couple of
things one the um projection with
salaries is an estimated
4% um you know obviously going into
contract negotiations we have no idea
what that will or won't be so that's
really a placeholder um I'll share with
this group one of the the Dynamics that
we looked at was um we had a very robust
overtime budget and one of the things I
petitioned beer and the mayor was can we
re-evaluate that number take half of
that number and use that to fully staff
an additional officer and so that was
approved internally and saying let's do
a resource reallocation model we've now
gone from 32 to 33 sworn officers
without ever having to come back to
council and ask for more money and still
be able to manage that overtime budget
and provide the services to the city so
I'm very proud of that um not being able
to have to come back here but add
additional people add additional
resources um are we thinking about more
we have tapped into officers brains now
that are begging for opportunities um
there's a big charge for a canine and
drug detection um I'm not sold on it and
so one of the things that I'm pushing
back um especially after recent
legislation is looking historically over
our department how many drug cases have
we been initiating what are we seeing
show me the data that would substantiate
the need outside of just you wanting to
do something fun um we we I've got to be
able to buy into that and so I think I
could see easily another bomb detection
um dog it makes sense I think that it's
been so well received not just here in
Bexley but the adjacent communities um
tapping into that resource so I think we
can do it um we had a lot of inine
monies and people that donated and the
community is just the outpouring and
helping us to get that started so I
think we could um but I I want more time
um I want to be able to test um what Pia
and shaa are doing give them that
opportunity be able to come back and
show the value I still want to bring
them before Council and have them show
some demonstrations and what they do um
so it's going to take time and that is
um one of the challenges with um you
know today Yvette yelled at me she said
you move too fast slow down
and so I have to slow down a little bit
and give that opportunity for us to
catch up and continue to show the
retired I think Troy did you have a
question no
Matt just one small one postage $1,200
new line item is that uh community
outreach is that what um I truthfully I
think that um there have been a number
of things where we just haven't been
very deliberate and put it in a line
item and so that is just you vet and I
really calling things more out I
question a lot of things and I want to
know and so that's more of just an
internal
piece in fact you can see on account
notes office supplies was reduced 1,200
to move to postage so that's why you see
it going down from 7,300 to
6,100
um auditor MC PE it's it's a pleasure to
see you here sir how are you well I I
only drove 90 miles an hour to get here
from Dublin um but once I got into the
city of exy
I I'm just saying when I got in city
limits I bait all rules okay um
[Laughter]
allegedly yes that's great you saw Medan
you said but very calming the lights
everything it was great um so I just I
have a couple questions um just more
around like Trends so when I look at
year-to dat spend um I always like to
kind of act ask beer because we have
this cash basis accounting or do we have
expenses year-to date that have not that
we anticipate coming in that have not
been captured in the the spend in
through September we do um matter of
fact just as of today with um electric
Chargers um approximately
$21,000 um there at the um at the police
department so um there are some I say
for the most part most of them are in
but one of the challenges with Paul and
um especially the the building itself
that's where some of that comes in um
and unfortunately with equipment needs
training um still trying to play catchup
to some degree but for the most part I
can get you a better answer um you bet
and I can sit down tomorrow and look and
see what you know from what's been
encumbered what's still out there
existing and where we're at yeah and I
and I asked that question just more of
like a for the the council to consider
so so when we look at budgets I'm always
a you know and beer and I to some extent
have talked about this which is um do we
build a budget so that never have to
come back um and ask for more money
which is you know a decrease in
administrative burden which is great or
do we create that budget that creates
flexibility for you to operate so kind
of when I look at the year-to-date spend
it would suggest that the end of the
year we'll land at about $6 million in
total spend within the budget so for me
when I look at that I think about that
that translates to more of a 10%
increase in the overall budget for
2024 so I'm not saying that's good or
bad I'm just simply calling that out
that we're on track to spend it looks
like about $6 million within the police
department but if we annualize that well
I'm sorry it it would land at about $6
million so that with that in context it
would be about a $600,000 increase in
the budget so again I'm not saying
that's good or bad I'm just saying that
it appears that there's a there's
there's room in that budget to um
certainly you know find yourself not in
a spot where you're coming back to say
hey I need a few extra dollars for for
for these events so this is more of a
conceptual question for the council do
we create budgets that create that kind
of flexibility to grow or do we keep
them tighter so that incremental dollars
come back to council um for for that
request so it's more of a philosophical
question ask a question then from a from
an auditor standpoint because when I
look at that I'm thinking about just
general cost increases that occur
seemingly every year that we can't avoid
and incremental costs that we can't uh
you know get away from and how much of
that 10% that we're citing to would fall
underneath that category and that's
where I'm asking just because you know
then when we start to get into that um
you know I don't know I mean we can look
at opers and that takes but there are
certain things that that I I think
that's a fair generalization of the
situation however I do think it's a
little more nuanced when we're looking
at the fact that a lot of things just
cost more every single year that we go
you know go forward so really are we
looking at 10% or are we looking at as
proposed are we looking at 5% so just
and I'm asking you because if you have
more insight then I'd be happy listen
yeah I mean and to your point that's a
very nuanced question because you know
we'll know going into this that salaries
are going to increase x%c So to that
point it it you know whether that's 3%
of that temp I don't know we haven't we
haven't drilled down to it but but again
it's
conceptually
um understanding is an objective of
setting a budget so that we create the
flexibility so that that the um the
leaders can run their their practice
without necessarily coming back and
asking for more money or do we want want
to keep it tighter and you know I think
to get to that specific qu I mean it
really means going through the line
items in more detail to understand how
much of it is already accounted for
because of those rate increases in
salaries for example that we anticipate
and then there may be other areas where
it's just not necessarily accounted for
um and and we don't know going in so
it's it's that best guess so I'll
probably have that similar question as
we go through some of these other larger
budgets which is what is the objective
of council is it to keep it tight so
that incremental dollars are coming back
to the council and asking for for those
dollars or is it to provide
flexibility um to to do the things that
we're talking
about and again there's no perfect
answer to this it's just a question for
Council on on how we want to administer
the
budgets I'll just say philosophically
because Matt's absolutely right that
that same Dynamic is going to present
itself in every Department and in fact
you'll see some you know some line items
that you're like we didn't spend any
money in this large line item why not
and that's a great question and why
provide capacity for it I think um and
so I think sometimes you'll see line
items where those really jump out and
you want to you want to talk about that
if we were to go to the tightest
possible budget you're right it would be
lower you know um and we have this line
item in our general fund summary called
unexpected Appropriations sort of a
forecast tool that would be reduced it
would go away so you would probably find
that the end result would be quite
similar in the budget um except the
control piece that Matt's talking about
would be like okay take your tightest
possible budget and then every time you
want to change it come back to council I
will tell you because I sat through that
as a council member so the little
institutional knowledge all infused into
this it was a nightmare it was a
nightmare and I'm not telling you we
should have Sloppy budgeting but three
reading requirement means that we have
to first know that we're going to have
this
shortfall sometimes can be difficult
when you're managing the number of
accounts we're managing then you have to
accurately forecast when that's coming
to council you go through six or eight
weeks um and what will happen and it
will happen is that there will be
instances where we forego opportunities
because we know that it's going to take
us two months to get the Appropriations
um not a scare tactic because I think
what I pride our our Administration on
is as you have seen year over year over
year when you look at that you know
those forecasts come in why are we why
do we have more money well we're not
spending it why are we not spending it
we don't spend Loosely we don't spend
because we can we spend in a strategic
Direction I'm gonna call out the chief's
marketing line on him he added that last
year he's only spent 1,600 to date so we
could slash it down to 2,000 but what
happens when it's the National Night Out
and you know we in a in a three-week
period we're trying to get the word out
and we need some marketing funds and and
they're not there that that will not
happen so I'm not again I'm not trying
to give you a scare tactic but I think
there that a governmental institution is
different than a private institution in
the fact that like we don't have easy
access to increase Appropriations in a
short period of time and to be nimble
this provides us the ability to be
nimble and I would only ask you to trust
us with that because of the track record
that we' demonstrated but it's 100% a
philosophical question that that
warrants airing out anytime we talk
about this I mean I think we do we have
extended that the Counterpoint to that I
I think would be not asking these
questions and not holding those leads to
sloppy budgeting and that's where we
don't want to wander over to I
agree any other questions for the
chief all right um I I know we both have
some notes Here for uh further
discussion and consideration I
appreciate that we decided to take a
little bit easy on you guys so that is
the sum of our budget presentation for
tonight although we're happy to
answering the questions uh before we
wrap up this section of the uh
meeting also magnifying glasses will be
provided at the next council meeting yes
Jess um remind me what the next budget
meeting where're discussion is going to
be hovering so we will cover the service
department as well as a host of other
sort of General General accounts that um
have yet to be determined but I can come
up with a better schedule than that we
will also be presenting um a a long-term
forecast of our finances based upon
beers crystal ball which is um closely
tied to Beer's bottom line so uh we
we'll be discussing that between Matt
myself and beer over the coming week
weeks and bringing bringing a forecast
to you next next council meeting say I
was that was news to me so it's every
year
man we have to polish that crystal ball
every year we haven't done that 10 year
forecast can we also get your bullet
notes in the next presentation I I like
referencing those that you presented
tonight yes oh those are on your agenda
is that what you're talking about the
presentation or packet it's on the oh
it's not in this but it's online it's on
the it's in the folder but I will print
them out for you fact I'll give you an
autographed copy right here ohen
question uh can we just get the schedule
present when sorry about that just it's
what two or three weeks can we just get
that because I think sometimes yep even
if it's just the Friday before I know
that change a bit but it would be really
helpful I will get that out thank
you chief chief no please do you have a
targeted date of when we'll see the
draft capital budget
I'm hoping to uh send that talk through
that initially in at our next meeting so
the next uh council
meeting it's close to completion Chief
um I I would be remissed if I don't say
thank you um the past year and a half
being here representing this community
um very proud um tonight's comments
continue to um show me I'm exactly where
I'm supposed to be with this over in
support thank you for the comments Sam
and the feedback and um to be able to
walk away with um the mindset that
Council was willing to open up
opportunities for us to do even more is
very humbling um every officer at our
department appreciates that as do I so
thank
you all right Mr
President
Mr official I think you got to move us
on all right we have a first reading of
ordinance 40-23 to amend chapter 1254
commercial and institutional District
restrictions in order further in
order
what do we to further affirm in order to
further affirm the prohibition of uses
involving any adult use cannabis
operator adult use cultivator and adult
use dispensary introduced by Mr Kingler
sorry about that I was confused yeah
thanks um see if the mayor can bring up
the ordinance but so this this came
about with the passage of issue two and
we kind of have we in our um code if
it's not um specifically listed it's
prohibited but this just reaffirms um
adult use
dispensary adult use cultivators are
prohibited
in the city Backle I think it under the
gun too's that December 6 I think is our
deadline right for municipalities not
really I mean December 6 is when the law
goes into effect but when we last talked
about it on Friday I mean I literally
had looked at the law the day before and
so there is there so I don't see any
legal way where anybody could come in
and actually set up business this in the
near future um now having said that it's
unclear as well because what the the
stat so so the if I if I'm rambling too
much stop me but the the chapter the
statute I'm sorry issue two in Acts
chapter 3780 of the Ohio Revis code all
brand new stuff written by people who
are proponents of issue two um it one of
the things it does is it's specific Al
allows municipalities or townships to
say with some exceptions that don't
apply to Bexley no we don't want that in
our city now of course there are other
Alternatives between saying we want it
all or we want none but that's a policy
issue um but from a legal standpoint the
other thing that is perplexing to me and
why I think that something won't happen
on December 15th or do your Christmas
shopping at the uh Dispensary on Main
Street or whatever is because it also
requires the Department of Commerce to
ISS to regulate and issue licenses to
these dispensaries and there is no way
that's happening anytime soon also
keeping again but that doesn't mean we
shouldn't be on top of it or we should
wait to see what happens because I think
from an overall zoning perspective if
this is if if that's his council's
wishes again it doesn't it's written
this way for discussion purposes as much
as anything else but that from a zoning
legal perspective property rights
perspective we're better off to have
something in place and revisit it before
we even start getting inklings of
interest to be doing this in Bexley and
having somebody then argue that we're
improperly or retroactively affecting
their rights to engage in lawful
business in in the city so I I think
that we're a little bit under the gun I
certainly have no issue I don't think
anybody should be concerned in my
opinion of having three full readings of
this which will take us past December
6th or 7th but I think that's okay and
then uh I guess I'm gonna draw you out
even more a little bit or maybe Ben as
Mr Mayor Kessler sorry
uh
um what we've got here is something that
we're looking at but we're really asking
for a real open discussion about what we
think we want to do what our options are
where we want to go on and if you want
to maybe throw out some of those things
that we're considering or should
consider as we kind of throw this out
there and maybe hear what everybody or
whoever wants to speak on it sure so um
so a couple things first of all as I
just mentioned before this is not an all
Oro thing be Bexley city council Bexley
Administration doesn't have to say we're
going to allow it or we're not going to
allow it you can also regulate it like
you do any other zoning items and allow
it or or prohibit it in certain areas um
section two is important that's separate
because I think there and again but it's
up for discussion section two is there
to make sure that there isn't marijuana
being grown in the uh garden plots but
again legally it's okay but maybe I from
from a policy standpoint where there's
questions the other thing the other
thing um is and this is on the side
nothing can be done to regulate hom
growing so that people can do that you
can't stop them um the um so one of the
things that really stands out to me and
this is I mean I would you know put put
this over to the chief for his thoughts
on it because of the law enforcement
aspect is this is a cash only business
and it's going to continue to be a cash
only business in my opinion until the
federal government decriminalizes
marijuana use um whether you agree or
not that's just the reality it's too
risky for these businesses to operate
with credit cards and things like that
where they might have money taken from
them um by the government you know in an
investigation so uh you know the idea of
having a cash only business selling
legalized drugs I mean again that's I
think a consideration that you have to
have to put in the whole mix in my view
so that I I don't know if I shared
anything else besides the pros and cons
the other day yeah Chief do you have any
additional thoughts on that not to put
you on the spot but so um lots of
thoughts I'm still waiting for Le
leadership at the state and National
level to speak out from the fop Ohio
Association of chiefs of police to date
there's really been no response or
position um I think that there is some
concern with recreational use um what
that means with policy backgrounds
recruitment testing um there's Dynamics
with drug recognition experts and what
is in the um what's being tested um
talked a lot today on this topic so the
jury still out from the law enforcement
side in the next generation of who we're
recruiting um the dynamic of um that
recreational piece the use you know
obviously um even this Dynamic of uh
selling distribution Etc so um I think
that we're probably you know Mark and I
will probably need to to sit down with
some others um and get kind of an FAQ
put together and get some of those
questions answered to see really what is
the position um and how we're going to
manage that because at the end of the
day federally it's still against the law
but a lot of these um the state Dynamic
is is making it somewhat challenging for
us in this space of law
enforcement if I can add so along those
lines from because are going to be a
whole host credible employment
um challenges um especially for law
enforcement but across the board um
again that may or may not dovetail with
your decision on whether to allow it to
be sold in Bexley but there is a
provision in the law that was similar to
what it was in the medical marijuana law
that specifically says just because it's
legal doesn't mean as an employe you
have
to put up with it you can still have a
zero tolerance drug Poli policy having
said that though again the challenges of
who you're recruiting and who's going to
come are you going to find I mean it's
my understanding at least talking to
other people in law enforcement that the
rule the rule of thumb used to be if
you've used illegal drugs in the last
five years and now maybe some places are
saying two years because of the
proliferation of the use of marijuana
it's just so those are challenges tied
to this but really separate from that
policy decision mayor Kesler I know you
have put this together here with
Matt or I'm sorry Mr Kingler uh do you
want to give us your sort of initial
thoughts and ideas what what you've put
thank you in front of us um you know
I've never been a fan I'm I'm sorry I've
never been a fan of the retail sale of
marijuana and Bexley um from the medical
distribution to uh to uh you know
recreational distribution so I am biased
I'm coming that that lens is there in
terms of um my concerns about um
a sort of a wild West Market which I
have seen evident in other states um and
again I admit um I've read a the bit
about it but I'm not an expert by any
means um I am also aware that if someone
were to come today and propose one the
same chart that this is just a snippet
of says if the use is not otherwise
listed here it's prohibited so I think
probably we'd have to say no regardless
so I think having this conversation is
good um
I think it would be worthwhile to think
in your head like where would a seller
go in Bexley If This Were to be legal
what would that feel like what would
that look like um is that is that
something that we want to have in the
city um so you've heard from me I I
don't have anything further add I'm not
a fan of the idea of having retail sales
of of of cannabis and bexy open it up
here comments questions Miss
sad
mine is reference to the ordinance
itself it currently States approved uh
State issue one and I believe it should
say
two I'm glad you pointed that out
because I don't want any
misunderstanding about what that could
mean that's a clerical mistake we can
fix that without an
amendment um one sorry one second I know
you have your hands up but You' asked me
a question I just want to also say one
more thing which is like we recently
prohibited essentially the sale of
tobacco and vaping in the city and vape
shops and it's to me this it's it's not
a dissimilar logic as to the sorts of
markets that we attract with with this R
use sorry
Moni I was just going to say that I
agree with Mark I think that if we
passed this now it wouldn't prohibit us
from
reexamining something more specific or a
specific request in the future but I did
have um a question for or two questions
for for the chief um the first is uh
with strawberry fields being so close to
Beckley have there been any law
enforcement issues um even though it's
outside of our jurisdiction have there
been issues from that dispensary that
have spilled over into Bexley that you
could share with us to my knowledge no
ma'am no I know there we have some even
as close as there at 670 at the Cassidy
um so it's even closer um than than
strawberry farms um have there been any
issues no ma'am we haven't seen that
have i actively reached out to Columbus
Police and ask them for data no ma'am I
have not okay thank you thank you for
that and then the second question was um
you know this kind of brings up the
issue of Fentanyl and um the fact that
other other drugs
are often Lac now with fentanyl um
separate and aside from this ordinance
if somebody body does have say fentanyl
test strips I know that in other states
uh I don't know how it's handled here in
Ohio but sometimes police have charged
those who possess fentanyl test strips
with um um
like like a a drug tool or a drug kit I
forget what the exact charges but you
probably know what it is and I assume
that in Bexley if someone does have
fentanyl test stps that even if there is
a law in the books for like that that we
would not enforce it because we want to
keep everybody safe is that accurate or
so I'm going to put on my mark fisho hat
and say it depends okay it really
depends I mean there's so many other
factors that could go into that um is
that just a part you know there may be
individuals that have Naran with them
but they also have control substance um
so it just depends it really does um
it's a great question but I think that
um similar to any other incident or
arrest it really depends upon all the
totality of the factors that go into to
that particular interaction or stop Mark
do you have anything to that you could
enlight on that no I mean I think a lot
of that has to be based on officer
discretion under the facts and
circumstances that are presented at the
time all right thank you it January so
early this year actually just for our
own education the state of Ohio
decriminalized any fentanyl test
dripping so it's not that it already
occurred at state level and now you can
actually pick them up at the Board of
Pharmacy from the state of Ohio so for
free
yeah good questions what
else yes I would just like to say that
um I've proposed this ordinance I am in
favor of this ordinance um for all of
the reasons the mayor already
listed that is
all and another point and I think
following up with what Mo'Nique just
mentioned about you know can wait and
this doesn't have to be the law forever
you can always change it is as I
mentioned before since State issue two
is a refer an initiative and not a
constitutional amendment this Ohio
General Assembly can do anything they
want with it including including
overturn it which does not seem to be
the sen sentiment at all I just saw a
headline of an article today indicating
that at least the speaker of the Ohio
house is not gung-ho about doing
anything super quick so I don't think
we'll know any I don't think we can sit
here and say oh by January 1st we'll
know a lot more and let's wait and see
um I think I think you really need to
make your decision based on what we know
the law to be today which is in my view
somewhat Inc
complete all right I think we're uh
unless there other
questions move on to table
ordinances do we have action on any
tabled
ordinance have uh we do please and thank
you yes I would like to um remove um
2723 uh from the table please motion to
remove ordinance 27-23 from the table by
Miss FIB second second by Mr Clinger all
in favor say I I all oppose same sign
remove
thank you I think you all know how very
passionate I have been about this
ordinance um and I'm pretty sure that
I've done a darn good job highlighting
to council that idling is detrimental to
our environment it plays havoc on our
health especially those that of our
children um that it's a wasteful use of
energy and that it wears on the
performance of our
cars I know that enforcement was a
concern that many of you voiced and I
listened and I asked officers for
feedback and I
listened and I spoke to Chief
Lewis and I
listened
um and I know that our city has worked
hard to support our Police
Department as they continue new to
bolster relations with our citizens and
our visitors and and I don't want to
create anything that's going to
jeopardize
that
um so I'm gonna ask you for a little bit
of help during our
budget process and I'm gonna try to do
what I do best which is
educate I'm going to ask the gurus of
all things green to help me do an
absolute crazy job of blitzing our
community with information regarding
this and I have asked the mayor to
please put a line item in the budget
that will help us and I have every
intention of
putting wasting a little bit of trees
and putting my own statements on
people's windows when they're I ing in
the Starbucks parking lot because it
makes me really angry um
so um someday I think this will be a law
I really do but not today and Bexley has
a has a wonderful wonderful tradition of
tiptoeing into things and I think
educating our community and I think I I
think all of you have learned from what
I have have I I've said and I'm hoping
that when you're sitting texting you
realize oh my God my car's on and it
doesn't need to be turn it off um so
um I also want to note that not only
have I taught all of you a little bit of
something MPR has picked
up what I've tried to do um the news has
picked up what I've tried to do and
Columbus monthly has asked to interview
me on Thursday
so we're just going to keep trying to be
green but we're going to educate first
so with that I would like to make a
motion to
withdraw
um from our agenda now and from every
future agenda ordinance
2723 motion to withdraw ordinance
27-23 by Miss fible second second by Mr
Kingler comments or questions from
Council
I do oh
sorry thank you for wanting to educate
and taking it farther really appreciate
itk for listening thank you for learning
for
listening thank you for for listening to
our concerns including mine about
enforcements um I think that we could
have a lot of fun with an educational
campaign about idling um I did do some
research Cleveland did one that says
Billy never Idols starring Billy Idol so
exley's got a challenge and we can
certainly get really creative on this so
thanks
yep yeah turn the ID all free I'm uh I'm
supporting giving out a lot of blank
checks tonight and I look forward to
supporting the education
portion thank you I I thank you for
allowing me to stand on my soap box and
and and preach to you good things but
thank you for those in the audience
tonight that haven't heard on this
ordinance yet we have been discussing
this since August I believe and um that
just goes back to who we are as a
council and how we work through
ordinances and give it time and um I
also commend you for you know just being
that person to listen to everything that
in all these discussions to tabling this
you know letting it go through three
readings and you are in my head I've
told you that and I am that person that
is in the car waiting for you know a
young athlete or dancer and I turn off
my car so it is working and I think the
educational Campaign Will will do the
good work thank you if nothing else I
want my community to know that I care in
so many different ways so not just about
being green but being you know good to
everyone who comes in and out of our
community and and to those um
individuals who work for our community
so thank you all of you for being
patient with me and um thank you for
your
support thank you Mr President I just
want to say that um when you first came
to me with this idea lauan I was very
skeptical and then you somehow managed
to change my mind and I became uh a
believer in this concept I wasn't
skeptical by the way that idoling was
bad I was always a firm believer in that
um I was skeptical about the concept of
this ordinance I do believe that having
seen it in other states and other cities
it is only a matter of time until it
makes some sense to us and we can wrap
our heads around it but I I heard you uh
and there is funding in our budget for
the best anti-idling marketing campaign
that has ever been produced by any City
anywhere it's gonna be creative the
first prototype sign had this little
polar bear that like would actually tilt
its head and start crying when somebody
was idling nearby it but we're GNA have
to NX that um but it's going to be
really good bil Billy idle
we'll see it'll be great and thank you
for your leadership and um and your
tenacity in working on this thank
you Mr M PE I think or no do we do a
just a voice not all right uh all in
favor of sorry what's the term
withdrawing withdrawing drawing all in
favor withdrawing ordinance
27-23 uh say I I I all oppose same sign
it's been withdrawn it's gonna cost us
some Heritage
trees no Heritage trees
take yes Mr Marcelino I moved to uh
remove ordinance
3523 from the table oh clean in house
night is it okay uh seconded by Mr
Kingler all in favor of removing
ordinance 35-23 from the table say I I
all oppose same sign all right removed
this today for uh the interest of just
discussion I plan to place it right back
on the table um after this but I I had
asked you at the last meeting to
consider this ordinance and just think
about your overall uh appetite for for
potentially passing it and I'm just
looking for some feedback from you as a
whole as you know we recently passed an
ordinance um that essentially eliminated
delay to the restrictions we place upon
animals that are found to be dangerous
um um in reviewing that ordinance and
passing that ordinance I found language
that essentially called out one specific
breed of animal specifically you can
just call them pit pulles there's a
couple different names for them uh you
know that that ordinance itself requires
additional protections against those
animals and it's just those animals it
exists but it's not enforce um I don't
think we have the ability nor the budget
uh to actually enforce it it um you know
when we're looking at these things I
think the consideration as a whole is
that well we want to get out ahead of
the problem and we need to get out ahead
of the problem but I don't really think
that's happening right now instead it's
happening
retroactively which I think is a much
more manageable way to handle this
rather than um you know I guess feigned
interest and and proactively handling it
without that doesn't actually work
seemingly I think it place an undue
burden upon owners of these dogs that
have to come into our community and
spend additional funds where they may be
good owners a lot of this has to do with
the owners not necessarily uh the dog
itself um you know there are other types
of dangerous animals and we started to
go down the path do we want to enumerate
those but I don't know that we frankly
can because at the end of the day they
are animals and there comes a certain
point to say letting any animal into our
community is somewhat d dangerous and we
all run the risk of living sort of near
there near them excuse me um you know
and there there I think a lot in in
defense to what I'm proposing is a lot
of damning Statistics against pit bulls
and and other dogs that are perceived to
be dangerous but you know I think if we
start to look at we look at humans
there's probably some pretty damning
stats about
African-Americans or Mexicans or
whatever you want to look at Latin the
Latino population
long and short is I hope that by my
sheer existence you don't feel the need
to place additional restrictions upon me
and I don't think we do and so as I look
here towards the owners of these animals
and I look towards the animals
themselves and I look towards what we're
doing and what we're budgeting what
we're actually enforcing I just don't
see the purpose I frankly see as
somewhat discriminatory and I just have
overall concerns for its existence when
we're not doing anything about it now if
we want to start to do something about
it I might be welcome and you know open
to that and actually starting to really
get out there and and and you know we're
going to make sure that these dangerous
animals are actually you know getting
trained and that we are we're finding
them but I don't know how that
necessarily happens and certainly by
having this I don't think we accomplish
anything so my I guess what I propose is
let's remove it and go back to the
drawing board with how we really want to
handle this situation rather than just
finding one breed that specifically is
being targeted um though you know here
in Bexley sure there's a couple cases
here and there but I don't think it's
actually a significant problem and
instead I think it deters a certain part
of the population of Columbus from
actually wanting to move to our
community um and so that's where I
stand but I will place that out again
for further discussion and then let's go
back and discuss you know think to
ourselves and let's take it off for a
vote at some point as Jess said I like
to take my time with these things um but
I want to put it out there and see what
anybody has to say
Miss uh
Robinson well I don't have a pit pole
but I have a dog that's a biter who
would not make this list at all so I
have to say I completely agree um with
the kind of dismantling of this and
looking at this in a way uh that's much
more reasoned and much more um fair to
all of us who own dogs and those of us
who own more challenging dogs so I
appreciate you bringing this
forward Mr Kingler
I think my four years here we've been a
council who likes to maybe help those in
need and create small programs that can
be
meaningful to certain parts of our
community is that I mean I would be in
favor of some of something like that if
you if a program was created and we said
hey anyone with a dog you know if you
want to adopt a dog like this you know
we might help you know fund something
that a scholar ship program I don't I
don't know what it looks like but I'm
just telling you now um I'm a fan of all
dogs and I'm a fan of all people so if
we need to help
those who want or who need the help to
get that done I'd be in
favor yes Liz Miss
fible I or my dos have
been
times and all three times
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and chief you you know you're hanging
out with us here tonight and you keep
coming up man I mean uh I'm GNA ask you
for uh input here if you've got any at
this point I know you're you're
specifically listed as the person who
would write this vicious breed po policy
in this as it is so um I pause you know
one of the responsibilities of law
enforcement is to act upon laws um I
think that this is asking for more um
expert testimony in being able to to
assess um I don't have that training um
to be able to to make that determination
I think the acts that are committed by
either a um negligent owner or an
aggressive dog um what does that look
like I do think that um Franklin
County's limited on their resources I
think that we don't have the housing
here to temporarily house dogs and
manage I think there are a number of
things um we're a oneperson staff that
is managing from groundhogs to vicious
dogs to geese
and you know if if we're going to really
do it I think it needs to be a
comprehensive look at animal control as
a whole and bring some experts in and
really um look at making this more
robust um you know we' talked if
somebody's at Wolf Park and their bexy
resident an incident happens there and
they come back to Bexley what is the the
tracking mechanism how are we made aware
of that and vice versa so I think that
there's much more to be discussed about
this um you know it's unfortunate that
the breed across the country has a
significant ific anly High number of
incidents that have been documented be
that pitbull or mix um but I'm no expert
to be able to determine the DNA of what
that animal is and to make that that
final call so I think that this is a
great opportunity to um truly be
educated and open it up more and really
decide does Bexley want to be a leader
in this space and look at you know we
talk in budgets um we're talking about
um creating a facility even if it's a
temporary one that we could temporarily
house some of these dogs and and create
some of that so um it's a great
conversation um but I would look to some
some experts in that space and bring
them in to help us navigate this you can
feel the mayor twitching next to me how
what made you think I was twitching Mr
Mar um I you know it's it having we you
many of you were here when we passed
this uh change at the time we had an
outright prohibition against pit uh this
was the Compromise it was to create um
the opportunity for legal ownership of
pitbulls um but those who had pitbulls
would need to register it would need to
ensure the dog and would need to have it
pass behavioral certification training
um I do want to respectfully disagree
with councilman Marcelino we we have
dogs that have gone through this uh we
have I think several dozen but I don't
have the number in my head um often it's
complaint-based not few people step
forward and say I have a pit Pole I
would love to follow the law uh more
frequently it's a neighbor or somebody
who's seen a a dog out in the in um on
the streets of Bexley and and asked the
question or or animal control officer
has observed and then um many times
those dogs have successfully gone
through the program
um there have been a lot of I mean
there's there's a lot of data and
statistics but we've all talked about
some of our personal experiences
laurianne with the dogs that have
attacked her dogs and some of us who
have had experiences ourselves I have an
experience
there's only one time I've visited a
child in the hospital as mayor and it
was a child whose abdomen was ripped
open by a pitbull so I'm well aware of
what can happen with these dogs 6% of
pitbulls sorry me back up dog of the dog
breeds in the US about 6% of our dog
breeds of our dogs are pit bulls are
classified as
pits yet they account for over 60% of
the Fatal bites in America the next one
down from that is a Rottweiler at 10%
it's a stark difference in terms of what
happens um with the breed and I
obviously of course every dog is
different I'm a dog owner I'm a cat
owner now fortunately um and I
understand that every dog is unique and
individual but I also understand that
statistics are relevant um and I know
that having sat in our Board of Health
meetings quarter after quarter when we
see those dog bite statistics most of or
many of the dog bites are originated
from a pit or a pit mix sometimes it's
unknown and when we dig into it it's a
pit or a pit mix often um I don't even
know why Rachel is here but um oh wait
you're sorry I was I was confusing for a
second Rachel's on our on our crb not on
our Board of Health but if you want to
be on our Board of Health sorry my bad I
was gonna ask I was gonna ask Rachel to
to ask for opinion as the Board of
Health member but I was getting you
confused I'm gonna ask the mayor to not
single out and harass people I'm not
audience no there was I was gonna I was
gonna ask Rachel's opinion as a board of
health member and I got her confused
with the different board so thank you
for your service with the Civil Service
oh my gosh that really took the wind out
of that statement I was making so if we
could rewind back to when I was talking
about uh you're talking about statistics
with Statistics and experiences and the
fact that Rachel is not a Board of
Health member but is a civil service
member so um I do believe that the the
law as we have it um is being enforced
to a degree could be enforced more fully
our communication campaign about it
could be more clear um that we could
expand it um but I would just I would
ask you to look as the chief said look
at those experts look talk to Board of
Health members um and citizens and
members of other commissions and uh and
seek advice uh before uh changing this I
think there's a reason we have the law
thank you sorry
Rachel I know you do well because you
you know I'm not saying that they never
do it that wasn't my I never speak in in
absolute it's just to be clear I'm sure
there have been several that have and
you mentioned that there are several
that potentially were referred by other
community members and again perhaps
that's the answer and we just state that
if you are a Community member that is
concerned about a dog you refer that dog
to to the warden who then comes out and
says hey let me take a look at the dog
let's see what's going on let's see what
the train and then let's offer the
training something along those lines I
I've told you this that there was a the
dog on my street when we lived on
grandon that would W it was a it was a
German Shepherd that would walk up off
the leash that's a dog and I had to just
trust that the owner knew what was going
on and and that it wasn't going to come
attack my dog or me and so I guess my
point is just that I know there are
traumatic stories that go along with
that breed and I certainly understand
that but to find one and just list one
when you just listed there are others
just doesn't seem appropriate to to
stand within our code itself and I again
will look to some of the ownership of
some of these animals and state to the
impact it has upon that part of our
population and what that means for the
people that want to potentially move to
our community that now don't feel
comfortable can't whatever it may be so
again I am I guess posing it to council
uh to consider because it just seems
outdated and to some degree uh I'd say
irresponsible to just name one uh one
breed when there are other dangerous
ones and we've gone down the path that
do you want to name others and I don't
know how you fully enumerate them
instead perhaps I would encourage us to
remove this language and think of a
program that allows us to actually
enforce uh some additional restrictions
upon dangerous animals or vicious
animals not just determine that because
you exist you are a vicious
animal going to extend the
opportunity City Council briefly for any
more comments or questions I know Sam
wants to put this back on the table
am are you twitching again I know I
would like to rebut some of what I heard
but yeah yeah go ahead after
Council yeah I would love to actually
know statistically like some of the
information that's been discussed
between um councilman Marcelino and
mayor Ben on how many reports that we
have had to the city um you know what
the breeds were I would love to actually
have that information given to us over
this time period um it's just good to
kind of hear some of the history on when
this ordinance came to the city and um
it's been a good discussion I'm gonna
I'm gonna editorialize just for a second
say thanks Sam for your patience with
this for bringing this off the table and
uh letting us to really kind of take our
time to to talk about it and realizing
that we are playing planning to continue
the conversation a little further any
other council members
then mayor KLA thank you sir um and uh I
I also appreciate that we're talking
through this um I want to clarify the
the proposed language in this ordinance
that opens it up to a policy that the
chief and I would come up with I I do
not prefer that I mean I would prefer no
change um because I think we would come
back to you with a policy that listed
pit I mean just based upon the
statistics I just gave you um I would
say that one of the challenges about
waiting to enforce until an an an animal
is dangerous is that there's been damage
that's already occurred at that point in
time that's how dogs get labeled vicious
or dangerous is they bite of another dog
or another person um sometimes it's not
a big deal sometimes it's just a little
bite sometimes a really big deal and I
think if we know that we have a a breed
that is statistically much more more
likely to severely injure and maim
somebody or another animal that we
should provide greater protection to our
residents um we'll get the statistics
you ask for I'll find out how many are
registered um find out you know try to
break down those dog that dog bite
history for you in Bexley I think that's
really important information um but I I
I just think that um at the end of the
day while we love our pets you know we
are talking about a human health issue
at the end of the day it's a human
health issue um the history of the
ordinance I don't know when it got
passed it was a long long time ago that
we outlawed pit pools and many other
cities did and it's true there's been a
movement to roll those off the books um
and Bexley was one of the last to get
rid of the prohibition and this was a
way for us to continue to keep our city
safe with what I believe are uh Common
Sense restrictions um that allow for uh
easy ownership of a pit bull but there
is a little bit more of a uh a little
bit more of a due diligence because of
that of that history and and those
statistics I am not going to call out
specific audience members but at the
same time invite uh anybody that's here
to comment on the
[Laughter]
issue Don Lewis 663 you Clair I'm just
curious are does Bexley have any
statistics on how many bites there are
been in by specific dogs I mean do we
have any statistics to back up what's NE
what's needed or what Ben has to say
otherwise way or the other I do believe
I think that's what we we are tasking
the mayor to come up with at this point
for us so I would say that we would be
willing to release that to you as well
thank you and the Board of Health does
keep that data oh great thank
you um Miss link put key your microphone
on long time listener first time uh
speaker so um I'm so sorry Mr Marcelino
but my first case as a baby prosecutor
was the most tremendous terrible pitbull
bite um case and it was difficult to put
together because when you have dogs that
are transferred that aren't AKC
registered you're going by like who
owned it when what address were they at
what were the markings to try to put
together that bite history and a lot of
times when there's a bite history people
move around transfer that dog and you
can't find it so to Mayor Kessler's
point I agree in my um experience it's
it's after the damage is done and so I
think one of the inquiries is not just
bite but what kind of bite you know um
sometimes they're associated with more
severe bites higher Hospital charges
other just economic costs that go along
and like we just got a German Shepherd I
think it would be fine if you gave me
more rules about that German Shepherd
because I can tell you it's a high
octane dog but but the Pitbull is an
unusual breed and I know that's an
unpopular position but I'm just saying
that like the dog bites that I've seen
are just catastrophic they're just
they're just they're just rough so
anyways that's all I I like a lot of
what I heard um Chief Lewis say about
kind of an overall Animal Control
revisit I think that is a really wise
idea um
because this would potentially put a lot
of strain on our department so that's it
thank you any other comments from our uh
our audience here I will send it back to
you then I know yeah one more thing and
then I'll move to put it back on the
table you know I I I think that's a fair
point and I do appreciate that
perspective certainly and I again like
we discussed would love more statistics
um I'll just note that it's just not
being enforced and I understand that uh
that you know that there have been some
that have been referred and I'm sure
there's been a dozen whatever but it
doesn't seem to be enforced I have a dog
named Walter that's a pit you moved in
here nobody came and got me we're okay
Walter's being good so you know I I sit
here and I say to you today that I'm
fine if we want to have some type of
enforcement I that is not my concern but
for it to exist and for us not to
enforce it and to pretend like this is
going to proactively stop some type of
uh unfortunate attack I also don't think
is accurate and so that's why as it
stands and it's not being en forcing all
those that ability let's take a broader
look at what we need to do to ensure
that safety rather than just saying well
it's in our code so it's it's it's doing
what it needs to do because I certainly
don't think that's going to be the case
if that's his intention but at that
point I would move to place ordinance uh
3523 back on the table motion to place
ordinance
35-23 back on the table by Mr Marcelino
second seconded by Mr Kingler all in
favor say I I all oppose same sign all
right is back on the table um I would
encourage council members and community
members to interact with Mr Marcelino
and the mayor asking questions asking
for more information in the coming weeks
uh likewise I would encourage Mr
Marcelino to stay in contact with us
maybe on his intentions for this just so
we make sure that we are prepared if uh
if that's going to come back out for a
vote or something anytime
soon all right I think we're heading
into the unless I'm missing something
we're heading into the committee reports
miss
fibble public garden uh meeting um
tomorrow night at
4 Recreation and Parks Miss sad and may
I also congratulate you on your
reelection you um okay so December 6 is
our next wreck meeting at 5:30 um
December 6 is also the Bexley Education
Foundation meeting at Montrose at 7
o'clock and Bravo date has been
announced d d April 6 and guess where
it's gonna
be April 6 is your birthday well
everybody we're going to Bravo to
celebrate councilman Ling's
birthday
um wait wait wait the has not been
announced yet Matt Matt I think you need
to say that again with a different
emphasis and um the location is the
Jeffrey Mansion for the first time ever
so all of that well you know spent uh
renovation is being put to use by the
community and um so save the dates end
of report maybe a little auction item to
give Mr Kingler birthday spank in there
or something that'd be
fun yeah
Finance uh Miss
lampy um as the mayor indicated our
second reading of the budget and the pay
ordinance is going to occur at our next
meeting everyone take your hard copy
handout know that there there will be
changes there will be tweaks and edits
um make sure you study it there'll be a
quiz the next meeting and a report Mr
Marcelino safety nothing thank you
strategic misss Robinson well first of
all I'd like to congratulate you U
president Markham on your reelection to
council congratulations job well done um
just to reminder that Thursday at 5:30
here at City Hall will be the uh
strategic I forgot which strategic plan
was meeting the Strategic plan uh public
workshops so weit say that again
Thursday at at 530 here in
Council yes um be here and uh it'll be a
good
time
thanks sorry I'm writing it
down two
bad two weeks from
now all right sad all right sad I
apologize um in front of I only got
seven so I can get more but in front of
everyone tonight is the new edition of
the Bexley High School alumni magazine
that the Bexley Education Foundation is
doing so even if you're not of beex
alumni there are many parents here of
Bexley Alum um make sure that they know
about the magazine get involved we would
love to Education Foundation would love
to have some of these displayed at City
Hall if the mayor to display them
wonderful um but they did a really nice
job and this is brand new and now on the
Education Foundation website are Al is
also they used to have separate websites
now everything's together in one place
um so they're just doing a nice job on
this investment and I was really
impressed with the magazine so I wanted
to share it with everyone to tonight end
of report thank you uh zoning Mr Kingler
thanks president Markham we had a recent
front yard corner lot study group this
past Monday I believe the meeting went
well uh we're getting closer to Some
solid guidelines
slash code on front yards and Corner
Lots fascinating stuff U Bap and ARB
meeting coming up in two weeks and uh as
your St Charles leaz on I would be
remiss if I didn't mention the soccer
team made it all the way to the state
semifinals they they they lost to
Cincinnati mhler but that they far uh
surpass their expectations for the year
so that was a big deal that's it thank
you at this time we uh allow the
audience public to comment on anything
they would like without a speaker slip
opportunity
extended if not seeing none I move to
adjourn can I get a
second all in favor say I hi
J