safe crossings
like
>> back up. They're like, "Oh, no. I know
this like we used to have a lady they
used to have a lady doing forever.
>> Welcome everyone to the November 11th
2025
city council meeting. At this time I'm
calling the meeting to order. If there's
anyone in attendance tonight that has a
speaker slip that would like to speak on
a piece of legislation I ask that you
please turn it in. this time to our city
attorney to my right.
>> Did you have a speaker attorney?
>> You can grab one and then don't mind
just pass it down to our city attorney.
That'd be great. Um, tonight council,
our auditor is writing a little late, so
he let me know that he will join us when
he is able. So with that, I'm going to
ask our city attorney to please do the
roll call.
>> Mr. Silverman,
>> present.
>> Mr. Hurley
>> here,
>> Mr. Mark
>> here,
>> Miss S
>> here,
>> Mr. Marcelino,
>> Miss Bible
>> here,
>> and Miss Ly
>> present.
>> Council, you may have noticed that we
have some very special guests tonight.
We are joined by one of our local
scouts, and they have asked if they
could please lead us in the pledge of
allegiance. So, at this time, I would
like to invite all of our guests to
please come up to the podium and face
the flag. and we will follow your lead
when you start us on the pledge of
>> allegiance
to the flag
of America to the
stands nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for
Well, that stands
>> at
public comments regarding items that are
not participe
not on the agenda.
>> We do not.
>> All right. Thank you so much. So we are
going to move on to the president's
report. I have a very brief report this
evening.
First and foremost, does everyone know
what today is? It's a very important day
for our military.
Veterans Day. Happy Veterans Day to all
those who currently serve, have served.
Um we honor and welcome your service. So
hopefully everyone will look at the
banners on Main Street and show their
gratitude for past service. I wanted to
give some kudos to Elizabeth Elman and
to ESAC for their repair cafe which was
a huge hit a couple weeks ago. We had a
repair cafe here in Council Chambers
where you could bring in old
electronics, clothing that needed
stitched, things that weren't working,
and we had gracious volunteers that
would help them renew some new life into
them so that all those items didn't go
into our landfills.
A couple months ago, council, you
remember that we passed a council
communication
plan. Um and council member Markham is
on the list for this month and in
November. Council member Markham's going
to write an article for inclusion in the
best blast.
I also wanted to remind everyone that
our next council meeting is a week from
today. Normally our guests we meet every
two weeks but because of upcoming
Thanksgiving holidays just want to
remind everyone that we will see you
back here next Tuesday.
And also I wanted to congratulate uh
council member Marcelino who last
Tuesday was reelected with myself to
serve another four years on council. So
wanted to congratulate Spencer Cahoun
who was also elected to council and will
join us in June. So that is my
president's report. Um the city auditor
did not have a report this evening. So
at this point I'll turn it over to our
city attorney.
>> And I have no report this evening
either. Great. Mayor, I'm going to turn
it over to you to walk us through your
administrative updates.
>> Thank you, Madam President.
>> Just a couple things to highlight in my
update. We do have some dates circulated
for the sewer informationational
workshop.
If you could get back to Natalie about
that, that'd be great. Um, our holiday
party is December 11th. So, look for
invite soon on that. That's the second
Thursday of the month. We have
circulated openings for the CIC
and for an open seated arctic review
board. Uh so that's been posted to the
website blast. But if you know of
anybody who ideal for either of those
boards, please let me know. I think the
CIC members are looking are seeing very
but nonetheless always interested
applicants and a great photo of a tree
art there for you all to enjoy from
yesterday.
I was touring the full or sorry the
front street bridge with Morsy over the
weekend it's supposed last week supposed
to open um
couple weeks
high bridge and look at that. love
having third graders here to city hall
that happened since our last meeting.
And I want to thank uh Alex, Sam, Megan,
and many others involved in the hometown
heroes banner program. We did get some
additional banners put up in time for
today, which is Veterans Day at
Veterans. and um just want to recognize
the sacrifice and service those serving
today serve in our history and with that
I'm happy to answer any questions.
>> Yes. Did you award a prize for the
person this week?
>> No prize. I just it was it was pretty
good guess on social media where they
were able to tell you whether it was a
male tree or a female tree.
>> You can go back on it. These are male
pico trees.
>> Yeah, they should. Uh although it's
quick to point out to you, trees can
sometimes
>> shift change. they start to produce but
as far as I know these are not
that's that's a good question
>> with that chief Lewis the floor is yours
>> I'm gonna pull up your site
it's like
You can start talking about
>> Good evening, council.
>> We submitted our report that captures
the most recent events impacting the
police department. Open to any
questions, comments, or feedback.
>> Chief, while he's pulling that up, would
you mind just giving some of the
highlights for the report? Oh, got it.
Okay. and it's just it'll sync up to
your agenda like this.
So, some of the highlights as you go
through, you can see we continue to have
a very high emphasis with community
relations and our engagement. Um,
continuing to make strides and just
having a element with our schools and
our students. As you scroll down outside
of that, we had an officer recognition
for officer Anderson. um there just
above. Um in addition to um the school
visits,
some of the reading events we're doing,
we did provide an update um to some
investigations that have been underway
and the hard work that our detective
bureau has been doing. Um especially our
detective Davis who had led the recent
homicide investigation. Um, one of the
other elements that I did ask Lieutenant
Holddron to come and be a part of just
witnessing um, really how council
functions, operates to hear the aspects
not only associated with updates but
just the the entire budget process. So,
thanks Lieutenant Hron for being here
for that. But open to any questions or
comments that might u be there.
I saw we had some I believe I was absent
for the new officer joining at city hall
Bradlet I believe for
>> what's our current officer count do we
have any vacancies and where are we at
in regards to
hiring
33 officers and we are at 33 um we have
some who've been out on extended light
duty or disability um and just trans
transition itioning through that. We are
still in the process of looking at um
really trying to hire some on the front
end and then for those that may
potentially be thinking about retirement
um etc. looking at evaluating them and
then backfilling so then our numbers
would condense. Um, one of the other
things the mayor and I have talked about
is um, and it's something just from from
the the budgeting presentation that
we'll hit on, but since you posed the
question is we know there is a need for
more engagement with our our youth and
we're looking at creating an education
and outreach police officer position.
This position would take on a lot of the
responsibilities that Officer Adams is
doing as our community liaison. it would
free him up to really focus on residents
and business. And this education
outreach would focus solely on students
education. You know, we talked about
proposed legislation with scooters and
ebikes. Um ho how that looks and feels
building relationships with our our
school district. And so that education
outreach opportunity is huge for us in
Bexley right now. So that is something
the mayor and I are working um really
hot and heavy in trying to build and
develop and also repurposing some
existing funds within our own budget to
be able to to do that.
>> Um also additionally I saw there was a
comment about uh Catalina's and homeless
population. Are we partnered with any
resources when we identify uh people in
need that might be considered uh
trespassing or or dealing with? We, you
know, oftentimes we will call um the
city of Columbus and try to partner with
them and and do the best that we can
from a resource position, but to say
that we've truly solidified a
relationship outside of that initial
call, we've
>> Okay,
questions for the chief.
All right. Um Mr. Click, you have update
for council.
>> Apologize. has now had a chance to
submit a written report uh just to run
you uh run down some of the the key
items we've been going through in the
building department. We've been kind of
going through closing out old uh
property maintenance violations that
have been outstanding. I I will say um
that this year we wrote a record uh
number of over at least a thousand
property maintenance violations um in
code enforcement. So, uh, we're
continuing to, uh, follow up with
absentee landlords and people, you know,
derelict properties, and that's going to
be, uh, main focus, uh, going forward in
2026.
Um, update over here on this, uh,
property. Um, they're looking to get
partial occupancy sometime in the first
quarter of 2026. So, we look for that
probably March or April. That would be
the front third of the building.
Um, and they continue to be on schedule
for uh a July even uh completion date
for the whole project. Um, as far as
that u I'll have more statistics for you
uh probably at the December meeting for
uh an overall uh view of the building
department.
I'll take any questions.
>> Y
>> uh thank you. Uh two questions. First on
specific to the parking garage next
door, you have a just timeline about
timeline when that might be actually
both in the public use.
>> We're Yeah, so we're working through
that with Continental. Um I think when
they they would like to bring in
potential
uh occupants and people into the
building. I think they're going to have
a dedicated entrance only for um those
that want to come in to view during
partial occupancy. Um, so it would still
be an active work site, but they'll have
to wear hard hats and vests. So, we
don't want to open this side quite yet.
So, we're working through when that will
be. I'm My guess would probably be
sometime this summer, late spring.
>> And then second question, just more out
of curiosity, you pass an ordinance uh
updating our view. Have you had any
applications yet?
>> So, I've had a couple calls. I had one
gentleman uh stop in who I spoke to and
I owe him an email. That was a couple
days ago. Um, I'm going to send him all
the information on it and then I'm
currently in the process of creating uh
that permit. So,
>> thank you, Mayor. Moving on to agenda.
>> All right. That's the consent agenda. We
have the meeting minutes for October
28th, 2025.
>> Council, are there any questions or
comments on the consent agenda?
We'll move to adopt the consent agenda.
Could I please have a second?
>> Second.
>> There any comments from the public?
Mr. Official, would you please do
>> Mr. Hurley?
>> Yes.
>> Miss Sad?
>> Yes.
>> Miss Lami?
>> Yes.
>> Mr. Marcelino?
>> Yes.
>> Mr. Silverman.
>> Yes.
>> Miss Fel.
>> Yes.
>> Mr. Marco.
>> Yes.
>> It passes.
>> Sorry for turn.
>> Um. All right. No third reading. So a
second reading of ordinance 25-25
authorizing appropriations for the
calendar year beginning January 1st,
2026 to authorize general fund transfer
uh general fund transfers and subsequent
appropriations in the same amount in the
infrastructure development fund and
capital fund in 2025 and to confer the
appointment of Mark Fishell as city
attorney.
>> Thank you Mr. Fishell. Tonight we have
our second reading of the budget. This
is super exciting. We will be hearing
from department heads, the mayor, Megan
Meer, Patland, Carrie Martin, Matt
Matthew,
and possible and um Chief Lewis. Um with
that being said, I wanted to also remind
the council and those who are listening
or in attendance tonight that we have uh
a great file of budget resources. Um, if
we were able to pull that up or we can
do it later, that's okay.
>> Just showing the folder.
>> Just showing the folder
>> in the second read folder. It's It's
tricky for a little bit.
>> No worries. It's Yep. And then it just
um it gives you it highlights everything
in there from our city council timeline
to our previous uh first reading to our
proposed amended ordinances. Um, and
also in there is the new position
clarifications.
Um, so just wanting council to be aware
of some things that we've asked for.
They're all in there. So make sure you
check that file. And uh, with that being
said, we will dive in to the budget.
>> All right. Are you are you ready?
>> I'm ready.
>> Okay. Well, it is the the day you've
been waiting for, the second reading of
our budget. We have ated a revised set
of change pages for the revision two
dated November 11th today's date and I
want to talk about what those changes
are. So first off we have revised our
projected income tax revenue for both 25
and 26. Uh we are still projecting 25 is
going to be substantially higher than
what we had initially budgeted for 2025
but not as much higher as we had thought
the last presentation of the budget
after some more projections. So that
softens then the 2026
uh projection as well. They both go down
a little bit but again 2025 income tax
revenue is still margin above our budget
for 2025. So we are projecting 3%
increase going to 2026 based upon
historic
experience. We've also decreased the
fire contract uh with some updated
information from Columbus.
Um we did incorporate the minor increase
to the development account for
newsletter printing mailing. Thanks to
Megan, we've been getting more
newsletters out. So, we raised that
budget a little bit, which is great
news. added a new line item um to
uh copy over what we did in this year
calendar a grant to darn for food and
security over the summer. Um we also
moved capital costs for a portion of the
senior center build out to the rec fund
and pool capital to the pool fund place
capital fund. We increased IT related
capital requests. We'll be going over
those today. And we decreased the
transfer to capital fund down to 1.4
million. And essentially what that is is
that's just a direct corlary to that
somewhat softer tax revenue projection.
We also added some great narratives and
general fund summary introduction
section to the budget book.
Again, uh looking at then an updated
10-year projection, we are still showing
a 3% average increase. The actual tenure
tail is about 3.9%. So 3% is seen as a
conservative projections
do show a slight increase in income tax
projection as comes fully online by
2028.
We do show an increase in property tax
in 2030 to account for the assessment. I
talk some more about property taxes here
in a second. Lower interest earnings as
uh as interest rates decline in the
future.
And then those 3% year-over-year colas
and 5% year-over-year health insurance
cost increase shows the 10ear trend. As
you can see, this is not as
optimistic as the last 10ear trend. That
is again because of that adjusted tax
revenue assumption. Still do see the
bump from 2029 that general fund debt
service going offline as we we are debt
free after 2029 in the general fund. So
you start to see an upswing and then
eventually projecting out further out we
start to see fund balances decline
slightly as some of those cost of living
fire contract health insurance increases
outpace normalized inflation.
With that um
you want to get started with our
departmental presentation but happy to
answer any questions that you might
have.
Thank you. I just want to make sure I'm
uh so in the updated exhibit a budget
general fund narrative. So page two uh
so FY25 surplus
just I just want to make sure I'm
understanding this. So we have million
construction development fund 750,000 in
capital fund uh 2.67 million in
transfers for various capital.
>> Hold on one D. Sorry one second. I'm
trying to pull up the
>> budget itself which is
>> this could be just I want to understand
>> sorry which second
great that I think that that middle
paragraph um just spells out what we're
doing the service we are closing
We are pretty strong.
>> Y
>> um so just adding so 3.3 million to
start development for b numberation
750,000 capital fund for the solar car
ports another 2.67 67 million and that
still leaves us with an end of year
balance of around projected 5 475
million
make sure I understand that
another look I'm just double check as
you look at the 2025 budget summary we
end up with 7.5 million unencumbered
reserves that does include the range of
funds so the general fund is around 5.5
but that's after we meet those correct
well done thank That is right. That
still does represent an increase from
our 2023.
Um, you know, we're 5 million roughly.
So, we're still increasing that overall
balance. There was a bump in 2024
in part due to a lag transfers, but
nonetheless, we're continue to trend
upwards.
>> Alex,
on your staffing summary, are those
roles in titling or
I guess I'm trying to pick up
communications and administrative
manager, operations and creative
coordinator. Are those existing roles
that we're changing the titling for or
is it new roles that are being created?
>> So the new positions classification
summaries exhibit C. Which exhibit are
you looking at?
>> I'm looking at the book that we got
previous time. Just your staffing
summary. I'm just trying to identify I'm
assuming those roles are existing roles.
They're filled. Has the titling just
changed or has that always been
>> Are you looking at just the pace pay
ordinance?
>> Looking at the staffing summary from
the mayor's office, page 10 on the book.
>> Happy to jump in. Um so uh I think what
you're looking at is specific to a
department and in that case it is
reflecting the title change
that's for Natalie which is currently
titled executive assistant there and so
be a title change only not a new role
created um there is another change as
such proposed for the HR department
from HR coordinator to HR is that
correct um so those aren't reflected
anywhere because there's not a change in
salary or operations.
>> What about the operations and creative
coordinators? That is that's
>> that's an existing position.
>> That's sorry.
>> Sounds good.
>> That's Emily. Perfect. And you'll see
her position reflected multiple
departments. She shared between the
mayor's office building recreation.
>> Thank you. Shows up. So we're not just
clear exhibit C was the only new
positions that were proposed in the
budget. Um and you'll even notice like
for example um you already know what a
dispatcher is. You know police captain
is but we currently have seen those two
positions and we will go through those
by department by department. So we're
going to get to that in a second. This
does summarize uh from your as as per
request to last meeting what the new
positions are
>> Sam just because we're on it right just
because we're on it right now I'm just
looking at police captain is that
something that we're going to be able to
market with or somebody who's coming
so then really the impact is less than
21,000
it's not
>> yeah but again we're about to get to
Yeah, I just saw it in front of me. So,
I want to
thank you.
>> Yep. Absolutely.
>> Okay. So, we're going to start out with
um you know, a fairly good softball
budget for you to review. If you have
your budget book open to mayor's office,
city hall,
um there are no proposed changes in
staffing, so no additional positions
there. There was a title change. um to
better reflect the work that Natalie
performs on a day-to-day basis, which is
is is more encompassing than her prior
title, but that is within the same day
scale. Um we do have a slight increase
in our memberships. These are
memberships that cover
a broader array of city operations, but
the largest is
memberships. We also have a
increase in training uh which is to
allow for more specialized staff
development.
>> Yes.
>> And then you'll see some pretty large
decreases and overall there's a decrease
of 10 10 oh almost 11% in our operating
expenditures.
>> Those aren't just full transparency
those aren't really true decreases. that
are being shifted to cost centers are
being shifted over to HR due to um we're
trying to home any of anything that is
global HR citywide back over to HR or
over to HR the first time that includes
our tuition reimbursement program so
that's not just specific city hall
that's specific to all the city it also
includes um our employee awards again a
citywide um citywide incentives so
that's coming over the HR department
which is why we're seeing a 10.9 U%
decrease.
Happy to answer your questions about
that.
>> Sam,
>> yeah, just looking at the increase here
um in regards to what was called Morcy
as old executives because you're I think
you're in line to become a president of
>> has nothing to do with it actually
organizations like it becomes more
expensive as you climb the charts.
>> It's funny. I spoke a term we don't have
an increase in our budget. I think we
should we should know has nothing to do
with I don't we don't get charged more
because of that
>> get charged less
but thank you for pointing that out
>> no those those fees have gone up a
little bit in general just
fees I think budget that up soision
up here date
So just right now it's just flat. Just
wanted to brag on. Thanks. I appreciate
that.
>> I just wanted to say that I very happy
to see the increase in training for
folks in the mayor's office. I think
it's important to keep their
professional develop skills and widen
those skills especially we want to keep
them and keep them competitive. So
really
>> I totally agree. I think small but staff
Great.
>> Okay. Moving on to the we will come back
to auditor's office
and we're coming to building and
planning. Mr. CL,
>> thank you, Mayor. Um,
so first bullet point, we're we we've
decided to increase funding for bacon
services. Uh we know that uh code
enforcement is a priority uh for this
council and for our city staff. Um, so
we're going to have our we brought on
Dick O'Donnell, as as many of you may
know, uh, probably July or August, and
he'll work through half of this year.
The increase, uh, funding would have him
year round at a part-time role, uh,
still next year. And that, you know, he
does a lot of the the basic sort of code
enforcement, grass, weeds, alleys,
trees. Um, and that'll free up Dave to
to actually do all of the fire
inspections. That's our goal for 2026.
visit all businesses do their fire
inspections as well as like I uh
referenced earlier hit the um the worst
properties harder. So that is the
increase in funding for abatement
services and and that is reflected in
the salary and wages. Um and and we also
have an increase in funding for our
contract professionals. uh when I came
on last July, I heard from ARB that a
lot of times they see uh projects
executed in the field not exactly to
their design approval or what was per
the design drawings. So we started with
reactive um inspection process on design
uh and and we asked that the contractors
or the homeowners uh call us when
they're ready for design review. Um, it
took me about four months to figure out
that if they change something, they're
not going to call the city and ask us to
come do a design review to see if it's
per their approved design. Right. So,
this role would allow um Karen Boker,
our staff consultant, who reviews all of
the ARB applications before ARB sees
them and works with the contractors and
architects. It allows her um eight to 16
hours, 16 hours every two weeks, eight
hours a week or four hours every week,
eight hours every two weeks to go out
and actually review ongoing projects um
for their status from a design
perspective, not a building code
perspective, but um a design
perspective. So those are the two
increases in funding. Um I'll I'll take
any questions. Sam.
>> Yeah, just for council, uh, for those of
you who haven't
meet, that's the biggest complaint that
I think they've had for a long time is
the lack of resource in order to
actually follow up on these projects and
make sure people are applying what
they've produced. So just from their
standoint, I think that's a necessity.
Um, second is a question in regards to
the code enforcement. Uh, we have I
believe currently one vehicle per one
kind of code enforcement per
Are we going to somewhere else in the
budget? Is it reflected that we'll need
an additional vehicle? Will we do we
find a vehicle or something that we can
utilize? Just curious.
>> We do have a vehicle in our capital
budget. I'll be doing an overview of
that.
>> Cool. Thanks.
>> Yeah. I mean, I asked Mr. O'Donnell to
drive his golf cart in January in
February and that was a non-starter.
So, we've got to get a vehicle for
>> um just more I guess looking at the uh
the budget. You're here to date as of
9:30 for those two subcontract
positions. Uh the expenditures seem
pretty low. Are you expecting sort of a
fourth quarter rebound to get close to
estimate or that that just seems like a
huge under?
>> Yeah. So, it's a just
>> No, it's a catch 22. We have a really
great chief building official in Mike
Farica. He's really amazing and he does
he does it for a lot of communities.
However, he likes to bill in bulk. So,
um I expect a large large invoice that
will eat up the rest of that maybe
hopefully not plus some. But I
projected, you know, historically where
he's been over the last three years.
That's how I came up with that number
last year. So, I expect a large invoice
coming in soon as I can pry it out.
Great. Thank you.
I have a question for you. I know when
you took over you really looked at the
technology and software that your office
would use. Um is there a cost to that
because I don't see any sort of line
item for that or was it already kind of
built in?
>> No. Yeah. So we did we reached out to
open gov. I did a lot of webinars went
to an open gov. That's for everyone
doesn't know that's our software portal.
It's a great system. It's kind of an
open a bit of an open source system. you
can kind of you can customize it. Um
their technology for code enforcement um
is essentially what Dave Herlick, our
code enforcement officer, created on its
own. They were shocked actually when we
showed them what we do and they were
like, "Well, you probably don't need to
spend $5,000 on our software then
because it's the same thing." So, we
were fortunate in that aspect. It's not
it's not the best way to do it. Um I'm
still looking for other software out
there, but it does integrate with what
we have here and we've we've customized
it to make it work enough. So our
special service is centralized within
the IT
question.
Moving on to city attorney.
>> You'll see a uh a flat budget projected
here.
>> Is that right? thoughts. We need to talk
about
>> um but that includes both our city
attorney retainer uh as well as hearings
litigation about the projects. I will
note the city attorney container has
been flat since 2024
um when had a substantial increase. So
we'll discuss any additional changes
having not heard about that yet. Um but
what we have seen general is you'll see
our appeals hearings are a zero here
today because it's good that's still a
budget that uh is important for us to
have around so that we're able to be
nimble and responsive any instances of
appeals.
Also want to congratulate Matt Lameler.
Litigation special projects is a lineup
that is heavily zoning corary and Matt's
done a great job of keeping down uh the
amount
is also
>> Matt's done a great job of keeping I
mean sincerely they did a great job of
being really judicious about when to
make those calls. um also leveraging our
city attorney resources more uh I think
more carefully um and um it's we've had
great results from that. So, as you can
see, we have had lower spend litigation
special projects. Uh, you're going to
see that number go up a little bit in
fourth quarter just due to some current
litigation special projects that we
have, but
that's where that budget stands. And I'm
happy to answer any questions.
>> We anticipate ending the year nothing
with the appeals hearing project.
>> Not not that I know of yet. It's not to
say that
>> it could come in, but right now we're
how to do so
>> and we so I would advocate for keeping
the budget where it's at because it
allows us to respond. We haven't we've
had years where
some of these budgets have been higher
than what we're seeing for budget. So,
but but nonetheless, no, I don't
anticipate any coming in. It's not to
say that I know that
developments.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um And starting with
the top, we don't have any proposed
changes in the development department.
Um the person that technically include
myself and the assortion of Elizabeth
man who is our sustainability program
leader. Um it has continued funding for
kind of those regional associations
conferences and like this year as well.
Um you will see a couple um items that
have a little bit more of that
significant year percent increase. Um so
I just kind of like to explain why. So
the first is we do have
coming online for their first year of
eligibility for their tax grant. Um
we're estimating that at the full amount
just for this year based on what
actually happens this year probably into
the future but we'd like to get the full
benefit they are eligible for it. Um for
certificate planting you're seeing a
little bit of a um uptick in that is
because I'm proposing next year we
conduct a scientific statistically
significant community survey. It's
something that we haven't done in a
number of years. I believe the last one
was conducted um in Lwood Capital
University. Um we have kind of a budget
placeholder for this. We did have a
professional polling firm give us a
quote and some participating to do that
along with some of the ongoing strategic
planning. So for instance, we have
another year of the commercial design
guidelines to get through hopefully just
a few months um and other various
strategic plan initiatives that may come
up. Um the mayor already pointed out
that $10,000 increase um to the mailing
budget. Um it turns out that when you
mail more things than their larger um
grant pieces, it costs more money to do
that. Um and so we have been doing that.
So would like to continue doing the
future. We'd like to hold at that
$40,000 to support the one project. Um
that's the same number you've seen in
past years, but we'd like to expand that
line item to include some of the other
inclusion efforts that we're starting to
discuss and consider um all culture city
certification which is inclusion focused
um as well as a citywide accessibility
audit. Um and so that would help cover
professional services fees for that. Um
you do see a decrease in reseability.
Um some of that is because we're no
longer pursuing a um weatherization
program that we have considered for the
last budget. So you're really seeing
that fall out. Um but we do hope to
continue funding for things such as the
newly formed food council that annual
recycling drop off date that you see our
ongoing air quality monitoring and a few
other smaller initiatives. With that
I'll take any questions.
>> So last part again why is there a drop
in this building? Um, so last year we
asked council to approve $25,000 to go
towards a home weatherization program.
It was expanding on something more done
in the past. Um, and we were also
looking actually to the state to roll
out something and it turns out that the
program really didn't make sense. So
what we thought we'd do in lie of that
is just do a better job promoting what
Morsy already has. It is income
qualified. Um, and in some ways that
does make sense. Um, so they do have a
program now where we could refer folks
to Morcy um for that instead of kind of
posting our own. So we thought that
might be a better use of our programs.
>> I mean could you explain a little more
on you that coax eligibility like how is
that what's involved in that eligible?
>> Sure. Um so it's pretty neat. So mayor
feel free to jump on if you like but
when Coach was looking at coming to they
did qualify for two um different uh
incentives. They have a tip um they
actually are already a part of the main
street tiff and so we did um allow I
think it was back up to $800,000 towards
cost they put into that building. Um and
then they also qualify for up to $50,000
a year in tax reimbursement. Now, when I
say that, there's some caveats and
there's going to be some fun math that
Director Martin and I have to do because
they have to prove that that income is
coming from people who are not
previously working in Besley. So, if you
happen to be working from home and
decide to go that does not qualify for
the grant. Um, and it's also for only up
to 50% of what they pay the city. Um,
and so if they show $100,000 income tax
in 2025,
they'll be eligible to get half of that
back. Um, and that is limited. I believe
that it's a 10year term.
>> I always council prove that it's
>> so it's something that we we are
obligated to pay. We we budgeted for
close to full amount.
>> Don't believe that we're going to end up
paying out the full amount, but it is
the line share increase when we look at
what the changes last year in this
year's budget development department is
the accounting for the approved grant.
Something else I want to call out before
we go any further in this department
development department. So there's full
transparency is that we previously
partnered with Eastmore main street SID.
Um we did we have not actually paid out
on that for a couple years because
they've stopped providing service within
our geographic boundaries before it had
to do with them helping to provide
service. Because of that we without
their model changing at all we've
dropped that out of our budget. If
something should change and they want to
partner again, we'll come back to you.
But right now, that's not showing up
this question.
>> Yes, thank you very much. So, this
scientific study and community outreach,
I mean, it's pretty broad in terms of
description. So, what's it for? What are
we looking for?
Can you give me some more?
>> Sure. So the place order that we
budgeted for which by the way is about
25,000 of that um was provided by a firm
that I've worked with before sine and
associates. It's not presuming that we
go with them, but generally what the
model is is that you take um these
questions that we say as benchmarks
across the country and you can go
through various polling firms sort of
very similar questions about resident
satisfaction overall with the community.
How safe do you feel? Um and then it
gets more to the programmatic level. How
happy are you or satisfied rather are
you with various service levels, code
enforcement, police service, um things
of that nature. Um and so the idea is
that you surface at some point as a
community which we haven't done I
believe in a number of years um couple
of years and continue to benchmark so
that we can get an idea exactly what are
the service areas that we are doing well
in but more importantly what we more
attention to and why and so it really
can use to help us benchmark um to
better understand satisfaction um and
then kind of compare as well to
ourselves in future years.
>> Yes. So we and we have done in the past.
>> I was going to say this is something we
found out about the sewers and
everything that same kind of study when
we reached out like the number one
complaint was like
that's why we started to refocus our
attention of course
not why we started so we have had
community service and capital
communications department and um every
five years been the cadence the last one
was in 2022 I think uh those are it's
been it's been great working capital um
they don't have the same um coverage,
the same feedback and they are like
nowhere near what bank looked at your
what you actually referenced. I looked
at other communities surveying
and as in the past with capital those
surveys have helped us drive policy and
strategy to your point like you get a
lot of interest and feedback that
strategic planning efforts to budget
priorities. This is a significant
undertaking would give us a lot more
data.
deep dive into where how do residents
feel to a more granular level on
different
they just see how do we how do we
benchmark against other communities and
the true value does come in play when
you're able to go park over park how did
this change you know between this year
and in the future we'll be able to use
the old capital information but this is
going to be much more data rich
>> and to add to that to some of the cost
of course we can put our own survey out
there. Um there are a lot of problems
with that, right? So you know that
people often themselves various things
based on being super happy or super mad
and so you're going to get results. Um
this polling firm does a scientifically
um weighted survey and so they would be
responsible for making sure that a
significant number of people actually
respond and then the capture demographic
data compare that to the actual
demographic data of the community
community can stratify and so make sure
that it is weighted to reflect the
community as it is not just based on who
decided to respond.
>> How long would you anticipate
studying to this degree?
>> Well honestly I think that that is
something that we can bring back to
council and get your feedback on in
other communities I've worked in it's
not um uh this I've seen it done for two
years I've seen it done every three
years I would say every five is probably
starting to get a little bit of the
ballpark of thing I think a more regular
checkin is what I would recommend but of
course we could talk about it in light
of the overall budget
>> can also send out some examples so that
both prior capital studies as well as
this will see that
thank
Alex,
>> thank you. Um, is there funding inside
of this budget for business owners
grants? Know that we have like signage
to we do for Main Street. I don't know
if that's expanded to all our commercial
mixed use commercial districts, but um
looking for programs that could help the
business owners food development office.
Also wanted to reference with the one
pexley. I know we for two years have
really done educational outreach with
that $40,000 line item. I think we only
accounted for less than 50% of that
used. Is there plans moving forward to
turning into more opportunities to maybe
do um
tangible things with minority based
businesses or the community rather than
just what we've been doing which is the
more educational outreach.
>> Um so thank you for those questions.
I'll go back to your first one was about
the side of improvement program um that
is ongoing. You'll see that we don't
have any takers yet this year although
we do have some applications that are
currently getting reimbursed
is one of those um some consideration
from other businesses. Um so for just a
point of education on that it's for any
exterior work um any property owner or
um business owner on street or Cassidy
qualifies to apply. You do have to get
the work preapproved um and So often we
flag this. We know for instance
somebody's going to be do signage work
and it's come through Matt's office say
hey like assistance with that this is a
potential program for you. It is
matching. So it's a 35% match the
property or business owners need to
bring their own funding to the table as
well. Um and it's had fluctuating
results. So you can see that 2024 we
gave out you know twothirds of it. Um it
is responsive to the businesses. Um we
do attempt to promote it. Um the chamber
helps us do that quite quite a bit too.
Um and sometimes it just depends on the
timing of when they're doing those
projects and they would wait for the
city's approval for the funding. Now
that said, I think that next year um
with the mayor's approval, I'd like to
kind of rethink the way we're going
about that program have some other
conversations about how to incentivize
uses that we're looking to have on
street. Um I don't know if that fits in
this bucket specifically, but I think
it's an ongoing conversation of probably
those dollars to serve our businesses
and also the end uses speed identified
strategy.
>> Those so two things are going to come to
you guys' ordinance proposals. One will
be expansion to leave avenue with the
facade improvement grant. Other will be
the this uh target end use based uh
incentive program where we have an
income tax incentive grant component
available to businesses that this is a
just sad innovation by the way we'll
call that out to businesses that meet a
you know a
criteria that we've said these are the
these are the end uses that we're really
looking to encourage and we don't have
the details yet about how we decide that
exactly yes Mexican restaurant will be
But um we need to stay with the JK right
now,
>> right?
>> Thanks.
>> Okay. So that's something that it's um
we probably have to pass in the budget
for that already, but we're going to
come to you guys because it does require
additional legislation.
>> Do we do we need to look at maybe
putting some funds into the the sign
improvement just to kind of start
building up to be able to anticipate
future needs for business the business
community?
I feel pretty comfortable. That's
something that we can we can see that
coming from a while away. So, if we need
to pivot and adjust, we can come back to
you guys on it. But
to your second question, Mr. Silverman,
um you asked about the one project. Um
so, kind of as I teed up, we're
imagining that that is a continuation of
some of the educational programming that
you mentioned. I think that and I would
ask the mayor to expand on this more is
ever evolving. It's actually entering
its fourth year and I think it's trying
to find um how can it best serve the
community. I do know um that Landre
Baker law uh the state coordinator along
with the library they're looking to do
more um inerson engagement events and
steer discussions. Um so we're looking
to that. We also engaged a website for
work on the creative side and so um
we're hoping to get a grant for that. If
we don't this line item would cover that
and so some things that there I don't
even want to say on the issue of at all.
It's great. Okay, Miss
>> my questions kind of revolve around that
as well. I know that that it's very hard
to have a tangible, you know, is it is
it working and and what is it that we
want it to
do? Um is it your intent? is our intent
that the community survey would um help
answer those questions. Um and and I'm
I'm and and how am I to understand um
the audit the accessibility? Can you
just give me just a little bit of clue?
I think it's I think the audit is
different than is it working? The audit
is something
>> something different conclusion. The one
project I think more around that impact
history, but also the current day
reality. Um, and that continues to be
kind of the marching of that. We're kind
of looking to expand this line item to
cover that and other inclusion efforts.
Um, whether it be the culture city
century inclusion certification that
Presidents
ago. Um the accessibility audit
specifically is something um that we'd
like to conduct um by our professional
firm to help us post and it's a broad
call um to anybody in the community who
would like to give feedback um generally
on how they interact with city services
and facilities and are we best serving
you? Um are we considering a wide range
of physical and developmental
disabilities as we're planning for these
things? and if not what we do better.
And so that's really meant to be a very
specific more focused group like um
audit whereas the community survey is
absolutely somewhere where we can be
asking broader questions about inclusion
and there is a precedent for doing that
and there are standard questions where
we could um kind of use what other
communities are using benchmark and
better understand how are we doing this
community and I mean the region how do
we compare it also nationally how do we
compare and then a few years for trying
to quantify the quality of the work we
did the best project. you would ask the
same questions again. Have you moved the
nickel? Um, so yes, I think there's
absolutely an opportunity to that.
>> Thank you.
>> Moving on to our favorites partly.
>> Thank you.
>> Um, my budget um pretty much the same as
last year. You will notice there's a
decrease in the personnel department and
that is due to the restructure and we
had this in 2025 we went from a
full-time payable coordinator to a
part-time payroll coordinator. She works
approximately 25 to 26 hours a week. Um
other than that um we have continued
funding for um our investment management
as well as um our financial report um
preparation as well as filing. Um
continued staff training um we attended
the Ohio GFA conference this year as
well as the conference for our software
company and we budgeted for continuation
of that. Um we do have an increase in
property and casualty insurance which
also includes um cyber insurance and
then um then we also have a you'll
notice a change in our um bank fees.
This past year Matt and I have met with
our bank we changed our account
structure. So we are um earning interest
now that we were not earning prior to
June. And with that we also added um
additional fraud um protection. So our
bank fees have um continue to go up. Um
other than that my budget has no
changes. In 2025 we did separate out the
auditor's budget from mine and that is a
continuation in 2026 as well. want to
brag on you and Matt real quickly. While
the bank fees went up by roughly
$14,000,
uh the interest earnings from the new
interest are exceeding the 14,000
increase well more than
subscriptions.
So I actually took that out for 2026
>> because I can't answer your question.
>> So I remove that.
>> I believe the pastitor at the Wall
Street Journal.
>> I do not have a Wall Street Journal.
>> Well, thank you for saving. Yes.
So
>> this this auditor now just
>> Oh, sorry. I realize there
questions. Sorry.
>> I don't see but welcome. We were just
bragging about you, Miss Smartly, to
indicate that you kind of redid some of
our investment or banking stuff, earning
interest, adding protection, and some of
the money earned is going to I already
saw what one month brought in and it was
Yeah.
>> Well done.
>> Thank you.
>> Moving on.
>> So, our grants department quote unquote
is an in and out. Um, we open up
purchase orders against a grant when we
have been awarded a grant. Um and
um purchase orders are only made for the
portion
of the project that is is expected to be
fully reimbured by a grant. Um so when I
say what I mean by that is right now we
got home budget total $1.3 million
projected grant revenue the lion's share
of that is grant revenue from the state
capital fund and from ODNR that has been
committed to the Schneider Clark bridge
and then we do have sort of rotating
funds for community foundation grants
but we have a new addition this year
which is TSI or the transit supportive
infrastructure grant
uh which is the link us uh voter pass
grant program. The projects that we have
coming up for TSI funding that have been
committed already. It's the um
pedestrian interface of the main street
bridge making provider pedestrian bike
crossing there on the main street
bridge. Also, um the city's contribution
to the LI staffing tribute funds project
which is already a 13.5 million grant
about 1.6 million in addition. So, we're
now in excess of $15 million in that
grant thanks to Morpsy and other
agencies. And then uh the other one is
the comforters project which is creating
infrastructure improvements between our
three elementary schools to create safer
crossing, safer bikeways, safer
pedestrian walkways uh between those
school campuses. So those uh the TSI
portion there of 100,000 is really kind
of gearing up the engineering piece uh
which will eventually then receive more
robust uh transportation support
infrastructure support and I'm happy to
answer questions.
>> Alex,
>> when do you anticipate have engineering
design on vehicle corridors
presentable? Um there a lot of lot of
things moving with that. One is uh we
have the Remington road
project which is part of that. So
engineers kind of already started just
the TSI piece. We are also applying for
a safe route right now the state of Ohio
funds which is 100% grant covered
project that will help inform us a
little bit and then there will be some
core additional engineering. So,
um, you know, I feel like that
engineering is in the next year or two
because corridor is TSI money becomes
online and I'm going to ask you this
question. TSI in 2028, I think. Is that
right? Um, so it's it's a slow burn to
get there. It's not going to all happen
overnight, but these are pretty major
infrastructure changes. Like, for
example, we anticipate already started
engineering on um the Elm and Cassingham
uh intersection being raised up to the
pedestrian level entirely. So, traffic
tables in certain areas is an example of
that. That's not the only one. That's
just one pops into my head. Um, other
similar improvements in other school
district school, sorry, elementary
school zones. And then, u some true bike
boulevard improvements between some of
these campuses. So, uh, all that to say,
um, it's going to require extensive
engineering, a variety of funding
sources be brought into it. So, I don't
think it's going to be like, oh, we're
doing this all at once. I think for
example the OBWC project will be prior
to 2028 and it'll be part of that same
project.
>> I don't know what's coming next every
time I flip this. So it's exciting.
Emily human resources.
>> I'm glad to be exciting. Um
from a staff thing summary perspective
um no changes. this HR department is
neat. Um,
>> and as
>> Yeah. Yeah. And as the, uh, mayor had
shared at the beginning of the meeting,
um, just a couple of slight titling
tweaks across the, um, city and those
are just to use consistent titling
conventions across havans, um, for
consistency. So, um, a couple of, um,
expenditure highlights. So, uh, for
2026,
um, for for 2025, we saw a decrease in,
um, uh, recruiting and onboarding
expenses. 2024, we brought in multiple
directors. Um, and so that was a
recruiting heavy year for us. Um, and
you'll see that those recruiting
expenses are a little bit more
right-sized for 2026. Um, one thing that
I'm particularly excited about, uh, over
the past couple years, we've started to
invest in some tools to modernize our HR
experience for our employees. So, um,
over the past couple of years, we've
implemented um, benefits enrollment
that's online and not paper. Um we last
year we implemented a um online
recruiting system where people can apply
online and um supervisors can review
applications that way. Um and then I
think most excitedly for everybody was
um online onboarding paperwork so that
they could actually um do that at home
before they started their job versus um
spending a couple hours um your first
day filling out 15 or 20 different
forms. uh we're going to continue that
and our next iteration is to a request
to implement a uh learning management
system. So that would look like a
learning library for our employees that
integrated with our existing HR software
and um it would give our employees
access to um over 1,200 courses that are
specific to local government. Um and so
as part of the um the onboarding process
um identifying courses for those
employees that are important for them to
take right off the bat when an employee
moves from a um employee to a supervisor
position, what are the uh core learning
experiences we want them to have. Um and
then also um things like records um
training and what is uh local
government. We can equip our employees
with that. They can also have access to
things like upskilling in um Excel or
conflict management and that will um
help with their particular learning
paths, goals
and uh career paths as well. Um and then
uh finally also working on more
in-person learning events. So we had
implemented sort of a a lowbudget way to
do that in uh 2024 2025 with some um
lunch and learn sessions getting folks
together to do um in-person learning. Um
we are going to continue to do that for
2026. Um but we would like to bring in
some outside speakers um to just really
enrich that experience. Um and then also
devoting some additional funding to um
supervisor skills, leadership skills and
um upskilling um from that perspective.
So any questions? Sam?
>> Yeah, just two questions. Uh first,
tuition reimbursement. I apologize if
you said this. I miss it. How many uh
employers would you guess estimate are
taking advantage of that?
>> I think we have um two or three at this
point. Yeah. Is that something that we
should be considering seeing that number
go up in the future? Because obviously
we haven't seen it really in the past
and so now it seems like a really great
benefit that we offer people. That's
something that we need to find.
>> You know, it it's one I think that's
hard to predict, right? Because I think
it depending on um you know when
somebody would at what point of their
career they're coming into and their
career goals. Um but we could definitely
look at that in the future. And then the
second question comes from the police
recruiting cost details some other
people chief here obviously gave 11,000
2025 only 67 is that number is there
such disparity there because we're
having better good you know good fortune
with our recruiting people want to be
here perhaps
>> yeah um and so I can share that we had
recruiting costs that we anticipated for
uh to hit in 2025
um and those are going be pushed off
into 2026 um in some respects and then
also you know last year we budgeted sort
of for a worstc case scenario and
fortunately that didn't transpire now
that we have a couple years of data in
doing it in that way we're able to kind
of rightsize what that looks like um we
also have some recruiting expenses and
and honestly expenses from a lot of
these line items are Q4 expenses that
are invoiced um the later part of the
year that just haven't hit Okay, cool.
Thank you.
>> Yeah,
>> I also want to highlight tuition
reimbursement used to be in the city
hall account. It was $4,000
and then last year was $6,000. So, we do
have some
>> that and employee appreciation staff
that that came over from yours, right?
Alex,
>> the learning management train is the is
the training line just to the what you
talk about was the new learning
management system. Is that the 12,200
budget that's proposed? That's actually
the 6,000. Um the online learning
platform that was renamed from um that
previous line item was called human
resources management. Um which
originally was intended if we needed um
like outside contracts, that sort of
thing. Um and so the online learning
platform would be that 6,000 but then
training would include um those um
outside like large um learning
opportunities for all employees that are
in person and then targeted um
leadership. Is there is there a plan
that is signifying the increase of 388%
for training or is there something that
is planned for 26 for training that's
specific to encompass that or is it just
of holistic view of of the approach you
want to take?
>> Yeah, absolutely. So, um we are hoping
to have four different um I guess output
speakers for lunch and learns uh
ranging, you know, between um4 to $500
for um speaker and learning costs. And
then we also would like to set aside
funds for um I guess targeted uh we have
opportunities
in this area for more intense um
leadership development opportunities.
those are more intensive. They're also
more expensive. So, we would like to um
provide a couple leaders within the
organization with um those opportunities
as well. So, all in would be that 12
two.
>> So, but those trainings would be would
be additional to whatever training they
have inside of their individual
departments funding. So this is being
triggered by the HR department to do
some additional leadership training in
addition to whatever they're budgeting
individual.
>> Yeah, you got it. The the um training
that's within each department is
typically um department centered in
nature or practical in nature specific
to that department. This would be more
um holistic and kind of cross um cross
domains across the city. And I I saw an
email went out and about benefits and I
know everyone's experiencing you know
health care and changes. Uh are you
seeing uh needs to kind of change the
communication or increase communication
towards the employees detailing kind of
helping them through the benefit package
and navigating healthcare because I know
it's been a challenge for for many
employers to kind of educate and and let
the employees know what their options
are. So are you spending more time or
funding towards that?
>> Yeah, absolutely. So, um it's open
enrollment for the city begins tomorrow,
which is a really exciting time for me
and and really busy. Um but we do um you
know, since I've come into my role in
the city, um we've added in um a so we
have an all employee um lunch and learn
that's um happening on Thursday. And
then um I also uh come to each
department um and uh offer office hours
for each employee. So you know if you
weren't um able to ask a question during
a lunch and learn, you weren't able to
or if it's a better to have a one-on-one
conversation, um those happen at each
location. Um, and then our uh online
enrollment tool also has a lot of um
resources, links, and information
embedded in it as well if you're the
type of person that wants to just dig in
on your own. Um, so we're taking a
multiaceted approach there, but I agree
with you that um, you know, it's
something that people want to get right
and so it's important to me to offer a
lot of opportunities to meet people
where they are.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah.
Emily, are we two years into your role?
>> Um, yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you so much.
Because everything you just said and
with the healthcare package is changing
and training um across you know
different departments, the upskilling so
beneficial to the city and um your role
just continues to improve and so and uh
what we invest in you for our community.
So thank you very much. Any other
questions on the resources?
>> Thanks, Emily.
>> Have fun and open tomorrow.
>> It lasts like a week and a half. So,
>> city barbecue, right?
All right, moving on to Mayor's Court,
which is supervised through the office
of church.
>> Thank you, mayor. Um, so kind of a
continued trend year over year for
mayors and this is directly correlated
to the police department, the chief's
good work to continue to enforce um
speeding uh laws throughout the
community. Um we are seeing an uptick in
cases and so any line items that you're
seeing with adjustments increases are
directly correlated to that cases and so
we do have you know is a one shot we
have one courts we do have multiple
contracted goals and so those are
reflected throughout those line items.
Um something I think of note um we did I
think last year in 25 separate out that
interpreter services so we wanted to
again tracking that closely did do your
supplemental appropriation we approved
that a few months ago I'm anticipating
to continue to that service for a well
utilized service it's a great job
um I I do apologize that last bullet is
actually a hold from last year that is
already done thank goodness um CMI
upgrade has been completed. Um it is
going through a few different iterations
of um pickups. Um again, our board is
doing a great job working through those.
Um so um something that he needs to
not see that reflected.
>> One thing that I do anticipate changing
the next revision is the Franklin County
prosecutor uh fee because of that extra
volume that was referring to I'm
expecting increase in that negotiating
on that point. So it should probably be
$60,000
>> Sam.
>> Yeah, just a question. Uh looks like
project tail light the pile at no fault
of anybody here I'm sure but just
doesn't seem to
I want to I want to say great work
officers every night I look at ship
reports and project I just mentioned as
something that's being handed out and
being used I think the reason you see
that low dollar figure is twofold one
there's not a ton of utilization but
also when we do do it our service guys
are operating what we're talking about
like light bulbs. So small parts uh it's
a program that's been really rewarding I
think to see continue to develop and
I think if achieve I don't know
supplement that you know one of the
tasks that we were given was to become
more aggressive at providing that level
of support and the education around it.
Um, as the mayor mentioned, every shift,
especially our midnight shift, are
passing those out. It's just getting,
it's really a culture shift in those um,
motorists in getting and encouraging
them to really participate, but they get
that document, but it has all the
information. Um, not many have taken
advantage of it. We've even had staged
events where we've invited them in and
partnered with a couple of automotive
places here in Beexley and encourage
them to come and take advantage.
>> Well, I remember that and that's kind of
where I I look at this and I say maybe
can be more
about trying to get people to utilize it
or find way more of those days that the
calendar allows for. I know it's busy,
but just because I look at admits
objectively, it's looking down and it's
small, but I think the referrals are
going up. Um, I'd like to learn more and
make sure that we're actually looking
properly our expenses against that line
all the time and it's not showing up in
other service department that could be
happening.
Our referrals are going up. I think hand
in hand and officers having more contact
with motorists, more enforcement. I
think it's really good to be able to say
to somebody who has an equipment
violation, hey, this is a resource we
provide. Equipment violations are truly
safety issues. I think a lot of times we
say, ah, it's just a break. It's just a
turn. That's a huge deal if you as
another motorist aren't seeing what
driver next to you is about to do. So, I
think we want to continue to educate
around it and
positive soft enforcement mechanism to
develop in fact police are having more
contact with drivers. I think it's I
think it's great to have the program but
I'm not saying the program I say it's g
value let me open thank you
>> is that is that given out uh as a as a
warning when you have a
>> they are
>> is that track like if you give that out
as a warning you have a second
there
>> we do not we do not we've got it in CAD
but we would not do it in a punitive
manner to say We've contacted you three
or four times. Now we're going to take
enforcement. You know, I give our
officers a lot of credit in accepting
the challenge of passing those out. You
know, we just weren't engaged about four
years ago, but now we are, and it's just
become a part of that repetition. Um,
it's a high touch, but no, sir, we do
not track it to be able to say, "Hey,
this was your fourth offense." Um, and
and therefore, you know, we're going to
take take that personal. Do you give us
an idea about how many of those are
handed out?
>> I anecdotally I could tell you I know um
as the mayor mentioned on the shift
report we're seeing anywhere from two to
five per night.
>> Oh.
>> So it's a pretty good number um when
you're talking about and you know and
it's great to just engage. You see that
one headline oftentimes that could lead
to an OI arrest. It could lead to a
weapons violation. It could lead to
warrants. um and it could just lead to
providing that level of service. So, we
see a number of things that happen with
those motor vehicle uh inspections.
>> Questions regarding the mayor's budget.
>> Okay. To get real technology,
>> Mr. Guinness.
>> This lovely podium looks under utilized.
So, I'll be the first director to grace
it today. Um, thanks everybody for their
time. Since I don't get the opportunity
to talk to everyone here regularly
enough, um, I'd like to give you all
maybe a 30,000 foot view of um, an
update for the technology department
that will dubtail or segue right into
our budget discuss.
Um we have about 10 to 12 larger ongoing
projects going on. Um
one of which Megan just mentioned the
Bears project which is went live on
October 20th but uh as any good project
that we're still experiencing and
ironing out some issues. Mark do an
earlier job with that. Um above and
beyond the projects,
we have tracked as an IT department
approximately 570
um unique issues that we've had to
address since January 1 of 2025. This is
part of our strategy to become more um
uh proactive and less reactive and be
able to actually put together some
numbers of what we are dealing with and
um how we can better reallocate some
potential help for um our attention to
different different segments of the
city, different technologies, etc., etc.
As part of the city's ongoing and
citywide um focus on training, I
attended a fall supervisor class last
week from Opel Opal who does a very good
job
and um maybe maybe dubtailing into the
the topic that you all want to hear
about a little bit more. We uh as a city
um across all departments with
representatives from all departments
including technology, our technology
consultants um PD wreck um and some
representatives from city hall. We
underwent a tabletop exercise with the
Ohio Cyber Reserve on October 15, 2025
that was meant to uh replicate or uh
practice a full-scale cyber incident
with the city of Beexley and have both
tech but also non- tech leaders involved
to see how everybody would react when
thrown a curveball in terms of uh what
to do in this situation. Uh it was like
I said well attended and I appreciate
the engagement uh from all the other
departments
with the highlights of um let's see
highlights
they're pretty par for the course um
from year to year our telecom and
hardware requirements are relatively
stable with notable exception of the um
updated and modern radio system that
council has recently funded for our
police department. It requires its own
backall or connection to the state of
Ohio for um for it to function and
function redundantly so that if one of
the two legs failed, it would still
work. Um that accounts for the vast
majority of our line item increase in
that. And the other notable line item
increase is
moving, let me grab this, moving our CAT
RMS um
maintenance services from PD contractual
to it this year, this upcoming budget
year, I should say. And that is in line
with again trying to centralize all of
the software
expenditures within one bucket and in
one department as opposed to having
those sort of scattered mattered
throughout um different budgets,
different departmental budgets.
And then
let's see at the very top there, I won't
uh won't ignore that one. We are asking
for a full-time support analyst uh to
assist the IT department at the city of
Xley. I'm referring to the IT department
a little tongue and cheek because much
like um Emily, I'm a department of one
full-time position and um it stretches
uh stretches us then from time to time.
Um this past summer actually in 24 we
brought on an IT intern who has uh been
with us for a long time for the entirety
of his senior year and has helped us
part-time since has been a godsend in
terms of allowing myself a little bit
more bandwidth excuse um to focus on
some other longer term strategy um
initiatives such as cyber security house
bill 96 6. Um, that's obviously top of
mind for everybody with the legislation
that you were considering for cyber
incident response plan. Um, the city has
always done a very good job of being
forward thinking and an early adopter of
um, cyber initiatives. I know that we
were one of the first in um, central
Ohio to do
cyber security training in 2016.
multiffactor authentication for
everybody in um the environment. Even
when you're accessing your city council
emails, for example, you know, you gota
you should have to hit the button uh
most of the times if you're signing in.
Um and I I really want to uh continue
that forward thinking um and and
leadership from from the city of Exley
for the rest of our neighbors. I know
that I have personally been asked um
you know how how were you able to
develop a cyber plan as a department
one? It's been with the support of our
uh of our council and other than just
organizationally in general. Um but it
took us a while and that is because if
uh you know I'm I'm working on keeping
my head down in those in a strategical
um policym
mode and something breaks over here,
it's really hard for me to do two things
at once and um
um get back to what I was working on
without being incredibly distracted by
that. So, I think that's really where um
the the value of a new full-time person
would be felt. um they would be able to
do that that tier one or first line
triage work that um sometimes to hand it
off to a vendor, but it's very often uh
taken upon by either other co-workers or
myself. And that would certainly um
allow us for some some added added time
to be able to again stay on top of of
the cyber incident response plan type of
things. There's there's more um
neverending
policies and procedures and improvements
that that the tech department is going
to be looking at. Tech never stops and
that never sleeps. So, you know, we got
to we got to be cognizant of that and
and again try to stay stay ahead of the
curve. Uh the mayor the mayor would like
to be bleeding edge on something. So, I
try to try to make us leading edge so
that we're not getting getting too
burned by new technology. But, um
that that's my uh spiel. If anybody has
any questions, I'm more than happy to uh
to take them. before we go to capital
unless you want me to hit that as well.
>> Start here.
>> Okay,
>> Sam.
>> Not a question because you don't come
see us now. Thank you so much for our
help. It's kind of like where's where's
the
police department everywhere,
you know, the additional person
necessary. That way you don't have to
deal with me and my basic questions
about Duo and you can actually work on
board.
>> I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Uh and I'll echo that as well. Uh just a
few questions. Uh the new fulltime
support him position you mentioned um
that's currently some of the issues this
individual might handle go to a vendor
or fall upon other staff. Are there any
obviously this is a new expensure. Are
there any stenced out budget elsewhere
to sort of account for having a person
to do that versus going to a vendor and
incurring cost or is that just not able
to be sort of I don't think that's able
to be calculated um ahead of time. There
may be some realized savings, but I I
don't anticipate um us using a vendor,
you know, 30% less because there's
somebody on site. Um typically,
in my experience, when we've had Alex
here, things happen quicker instead. So,
operationally, that's an advantage for
the city. somebody's going to resolve a
problem that they would have just said,
"I'll wait until until Eric has some
time to do it." Most of our contractual
services are for either projects or um
preventative maintenance monitoring type
of things. Um more or less having the
backup in case we have some type of um
virus outbreak, cyber emergency, we're
able to contact them 247 and get some
help that way. And then I just want to
understand so the growth in the software
license maintenance is largely due to
this migration from the police
department
question Louis is where would I find
that savings in your budget that's just
>> I'm sorry savings for the software that
we are porting to technology department
is there is there a reduction in your
budget where you're no longer shoving
that cost in 2026
>> a little bit well this is a it's a
contractual but it's a a completely new
that was a very large purchase that we
had to present for the new upgrade of
CAT RMS. So that was a very oneoff and
this is just a lot cleaner. It provides
you know as you know this time last year
we had a lot of questions focused around
it. um what Eric has been able to do um
in in this past 365 days with the
additional person um us being very
specific with line items and and very
intentional to show those line items. Um
it's been a huge help in in a lot of
ways and it's allowed Eric to be much
more strategic also. But that was a very
specific line item. And last question
just make sure I understand the uh
increase in your cyber security line
item is largely attributable to increase
the software license.
>> Um most of it is the vendor and the
software products that we are using have
been sort of rightsized to the amount of
users that are actually using the
products. So, Duo, for example, if you
have an email address, we you got to pay
a monthly license for it. And that's
mostly that, but there is still some uh
some money that is set aside for
continued policy um updates.
>> And it was our service matter.
>> It is affiliated resources group.
>> Thank you, Alex.
>> I just wanted to echo Sam and Danny's
comment about getting to spend time with
you. I actually received a phone call
probably a month or so ago from a
employee that thought I was you asking
for assistance on the email access. So I
can only imagine when you talk about
tier one support the need to be able to
filter those kind of more simplistic
tasks to a person. So I'm totally in
favor of of having that tier one support
layer and then you above it. Um I know a
lot of times IT analysts will want to
work remotely in the position we're
looking at. Is it going to be full-time
in office or is it going to be uh an
applicant open to remote work? I guess
what is the what is the goal for
particular one?
>> The position is to be full-time on site
um with the expectation that in the
world of IT you might get a call in the
middle of the night. So, we're not
counting that as support but um it is
expected to be fulltime in the office.
>> Thank you.
Sounds like we don't need it in
position. We just give them Alex's phone
for them.
>> They did not get their passwords.
>> Since they're going to be, this is just
basic question since they are going to
be on site. I'm scarce where physically
you have room for them here in this
voting and will they be a direct contact
for the department?
That's actually a fantastic question. uh
Councilman Detroit, we are going to be
principally working out of the U police
department which is also getting a
little crowded but um we have we've been
making it work. Um the nature of having
on-site tech support is we we do have
the ability to remote in and take a look
at things when needed. But you know we
we sort of like that personal customer
service touch here in Vexley. So we we
really try to get hands on when we can.
If that Beexley's not big, right? If
that means it's making the drive over to
the service, you know, service
departments right next to the police
department, the direct department,
Jeffrey Mansion, we really try to do
that when we can, but we will be
primarily based out of the police
department. I do try to make it here
almost every day if I can. So, and then
they follow up. Will they be a direct
contact for the departments here? Do
they go through you? is that
good question. It's it's
semi informal now. Generally, every
department has kind of a a tech liaison
that they can relay information to me
and or somebody can contact me directly.
I reference that the the ticking system
that we that we're developing, we are
expecting to open that up to everybody.
So, sort of like a help desk at
beexley.org ORG system that that um
anybody can put in if we have an issue
with um or whatever needs needs some
needs a hand she a call or put in um an
entry into the ticketing system. So
>> any other questions? Um
>> yeah um yeah I I grateful to see
increased investment in the IT
department. It's just something that is
utmost importance. Um I have a probably
more broader question which is just
maybe benchmarking. I'm not sure I have
the right terminology here but um
how do you go about like assessing the
tools that we have against what other
communities like have and do we have um
things that you're continuing to
evaluate? I think it's a it's a broader
question and I'm not looking necessarily
for specifics but um
you know, ultimately just I think we all
want to make sure that the city of Xley
has the tools um to whether it be
protect us or you know, support our
resources to do their job. So, it's, you
know, again, back to that benchmarking,
what other are there other, you know,
partnerships that you have that help
guide you um to increased investment?
Um that is a fantastic question. A lot
of um what we do in that arena I rely
heavily on our consultants for um
whenever we are paying for a
subscription for endpoint protection. It
does not list a product. We have gone
from one product to another because the
the first iteration of what we did a few
years ago um was either um not playing
nicely with our with our systems. was
causing too many false positives, too
much downtime. Um, or it wasn't catching
what we wanted to do, which was not
really really
a bigger issue or the false positive
thing. So, I will rely on that
subscription based model to help do do
quite a bit of the heavy lifting on the
back end. Um we do use quite a few
industry standard products that much I
know just from being around Duo I
mentioned a couple times the um
monitoring and patching system that we
use is very common place.
So those types of things I'm very
comfortable with. Uh I will say that you
know with with the addition of Alex I'll
have a little bit more time to do more
industry venu but um it's it's something
that our um you know our relationship
with the consultants
it that provides a lot of value. It's
not just paying them to do you know work
two hours for you. expect that to
actually do that research, go to the
industry and do things that that we
don't have time to do. So hopefully that
answers helpful. Thank you.
>> Move on to the next slide.
>> Yep.
And th this would be the tech capital
requests that are for budget year 2026.
Um, excuse me. We are continuing to
upgrade our um city wireless.
The current access points are uh wanting
to go out of not funny scheduled to go
out of life or end of life here next
year or two.
Um, Jeffrey Mansion, I believe, for
their preschool,
did a
security audit with Beexley PD and one
of the big things that they recommended
was to redo how their camera and
intercom works whenever parents are
buzzing in. Um, so we got a quote for
that.
Our
water billing system that the that the
water department uses is maybe the
oldest piece of tech in the city at this
point. So that's caused a caused a bit
of a snafu in trying to get a few things
working. So we want to make sure that's
modernized. We have a hope for that. Um
the the copier at Jeffrey Mansion is an
old true machine. that has more than a
million copies on it. So before it
breaks and it's going to be really hard
to roll down the uh roll down the
stairs. Now I guess we have an elevator
which has been installed since the
copter's been there. Um we would like to
get that updated and then u some cameras
for community gardens and the skates
for surveillance purposes.
>> Alex,
>> I have I have two questions. The first
one, do you know the community garden
cameras? Is that one for south, one for
north? And are those cameras going to
cover the new fridge in north?
>> Yeah, we we needed to cover that because
I had a conversation today. Uh I do want
to make sure we north and south covered
and we had
just leave that. Uh I'm not sure we
anticipate covering the fridge. We'll
talk about that. and skate park cameras.
We also have dog park cameras. Uh
they're in place, but we might do some
upgradations.
>> And is is there any
funds to address improvements in city
hall chambers? I know we consistently
have uh telecommunication challenges and
streaming challenges. So, I just I I
don't see it here. I would like to
invest some money to make sure we have
reliable streamed uh council sessions.
>> So I want to I want to recognize brother
Eric and Matt Clemer's various spaces
actually it's hard to tell. Maybe you
can walk back here and see it. We've had
some substantial upgrades tech and
theory works amazingly well but we're on
like week one right now. So we had a
little snafu coming into this meeting
but we've had some successful first
flights and it'll continue to get
better. So those upgrades have been
funded by you council and they are in
place believe it or not.
>> So is it just implementation challenge?
>> It's user error.
>> One of the things that we're trying to
streamline in all sincerity is that the
school district uses the space as well.
So scenario we've set this up to be much
more elegantly have a better switch
over. I just think that right now right
and left hand aren't talking about it.
So we're we're ironing out some kinks.
But no concerns from additional funding
related to it's all there. It's in
theory. It's the Cadillac. It's not
Cadillac. It's actually what's what's
the We should stop using car. It's a uh
it's a more reliable system that we
need. I think
>> it was a couple more weeks.
>> Um yeah, a president statistic comment
on the the cameras for state park. I
would just personally be in favor of
more appropriation there and more
cameras. I just I know we all received
emails from the skate park around safety
concerns and I just think I'm I'm
satisfied that what we have here is
coverage. We might come back with sub to
make sure that we're getting but um this
is not a skimpy uh cheap camera system
that we put in here. Um and we expect
that by the time this project's
finalized that we'll have great coverage
of skate park both community guards. And
then my my question is just on Jeff
copier I noticed in your budget uh your
copier subscription might have flat
funed any reason why we would buy a
copier versus lease one or so in our
experience it's actually significantly
cheaper to buy the copier outright with
capital and then this is a great use
case because I think it's 10 years old
maybe under that um
you I forget what what the points are
that we pay on it, but it's quite a bit
if we don't
>> you're essentially paying 80% interest
rate.
>> Yeah. Plus,
>> there's lots of reasons why I just do a
little business tutorial here. You if
you have the ability to purchase up
front with copers, in my opin,
uh under operations is flat. It would go
up if If that that older piece of
equipment would be required to be, you
know, kept
copy misnome.
>> Yeah. I just want to ask a little bit
more about the migration building
system. So I know it's a standalone
modules technologies. Um I'm assuming it
integrates into our finance platform.
>> Yep. So understand that
finance platform
are we are we committed to that
for a long period of time or I think we
are for the foreseeable future just
based on on what I know in terms of how
expensive software packages are offered
by other vendors and some others other
local communities are using it.
>> Okay. presuming presuming our users are
happy with the product and I I haven't
heard any clamoring that we were wanting
to get away from uh the ideas of
>> I would just want to have more of a
deeper conversation around it because
when I see that we're spending $50,000
to integrate into
our finances I just want to confirm that
it is our intent to stay on that
platform definitely we do that migration
So
>> great question.
>> I did, but it's kind of going back to
what we approved last year in regards to
technology because I believe there was
audio and visual here. I see the camera
still set up. Is that all still
actually a new camera point up that way,
which if it were properly connected
would be point this way and it does work
well. Believe me, everything is in place
and we're I think we're week one having
place
>> to use automobile. I know you don't want
to. The engine's still a little green on
it. Let's Is that what's happening?
>> Okay, cool.
>> I I had a question. I'm not sure it's
it's your department or might be chief's
department or might be mayor's
department. um technology for ADS that
are publicly available around the city.
I know when we you know approved putting
them in there was going to be like a
camera so that whoever accesses it takes
photo is all the tech for the ads up and
running smoothly in the city
who who wants it.
So, I would say, you know, we relied
very heavily on Lee Nathan's with that
project and program um in conjunction,
but I don't want to answer definitively.
I just saw him tonight so I could get
back with him and find out um from a
funding perspective. And um we're not uh
per se the the keeper of the record
responsible for the maintenance and
upkeep and checking those. Um, so it's
something we definitely need to check
with him and find out what that looks
like and and um from an overlap or a
backup support, etc. To be clear, he's
not the person that it's through our
service department, but we've been we I
know that we've had calls to dispatch
from units that have been triggered. Um,
so I know that they're up running and we
get further.
>> We can follow
It sounds like all the technology will
be demonstratively working at 100% by
the time we vote on this budget.
Other
questions on the technology capital
>> make this one easy for you.
>> We uh
we have a a fairly streamlined budget
here. Uh very little change. We did
reduce
um the tree commission budget because it
wasn't really the tree commission
budget. It was paying for landscape
design services. So we moved that over
to it's a combination of development
department and building zoning. We've
already seen that just to keep the tree
commission in line
commissions. Uh so it resulted in a 30%
decrease in the department but that
decrease really picked up
answer questions.
>> Any questions on this one?
>> City council your favor.
>> I do want to note it was our intent to
increase the operating expense budget
from 1500 to 2,000. That's not showing
up right now.
>> Yes. So that will that was the request
of
our finance chair. So that will show up
the next version of the budget. Other
than that the only increase in the
budget is uh the ordinance or I guess a
statuto increase in compensation.
>> Any questions on city council budget?
>> All right. Now, this little small budget
here is up next
with the police department.
>> Yeah.
>> Good evening again, council.
>> So, uh staffing summary, we are, as many
of you know, um Kim Golf retired as a
deputy chief um earlier this year. We
had promoted him from captain to deputy
chief and leaving a um ultimately a
placeholder as captain. I'm just looking
at progression. Um, we have three
eligible lieutenants who will be
competing for that vacant position um
early next year, probably sometime in
February or March and looking to to to
fill that role. Um,
in addition looking at adding a
dispatcher, industry standards for
dispatching is two dispatchers per
shift.
You know, I'm a little um embarrassed to
say that we were not functioning at
industry standards and had not been for
some time and we were um successful at
using some part-time um folks and we
have gotten away from that model. Um
we're currently at six which gives us
two per shift. This would add a seventh
which would would give us the ability
with days off vacations to back fill and
cover those vacancies.
This would take us absolutely to what u
the industry stands across the country
would be um as it relates to
expenditures looking at there's an
increase when you look at from an
operating perspective patrol equipment
and that is really to address the
potential new hires just to give you an
an understanding of what it will cost
us. It's about $11,000
when we hire a new police officer to
outfit them. Weapon uniforms
um as well as looking at some ballistic
vests. These vests that we wear have a
shelf life of about four to six years
and they're about $1,100 each. So that
would um so that's where you're seeing
that increase.
um funding to support our three the four
years um going towards Kalia that is
national accreditation. Um we have put
Sergeant Fleming in charge of our um
process. Um it is a very very
timeintensive
um initiative but that is to get us to
where we are the gold standard in law
enforcement to be nationally recognized
and that is something that we're working
really hard to to achieve. Um continue
looking at building on our emergency
management. Lieutenant Overly has really
worked extremely hard on building this
um idea and concept into a tangible
programming and we've seen a number of
different areas that have been impacted
with having a very robust emergency
management program which includes a um
really a public service notification
system. And then lastly, continue to
support our community events. I mean
it's no secret we've taken a lot of
pride over the past nearly four years of
building a lot of hightouch community
relations from national night out to our
shop with the cop etc. Um but those are
really you know and I think that it's
important um we are really trying to be
extremely good stewards when you see
that our budget from last year requests
have issued from an operating
perspective was less than 3% and we're
very proud of being able to to maintain
that and coming from council in that
fashion.
>> Thank you. Uh just uh comment question
comment would be on community
programming just again putting my own
personal views out there if you have a
need for more funding that I'm 100%
supported I think the community outreach
programs you all put on are amazing.
>> Thank you.
>> So just put that out there if you want
more money. Um the other one is I just
want a question about building
maintenance. Um, you know, I see your
projected notes, but also our our year
to date for 2025 is about half of what
they're appropriated. Just maybe any
clarity on building maintenance.
>> Yes. So, that has been, you know,
invoice outstanding kind of thing.
>> A little bit of everything. And so, um,
full transparency, we have an amazing
person in Paul who does it all in a
part-time status.
>> Paul does it. He does literally and
being able to play catchup um has a lot
to do with that and it's it's become
kind of a a sustainable business model
that that gets deployed. Um and he works
really hard in in Q4 and playing
catch-up in a lot of those projects. And
so a lot of those things will will um
catch up. One of the things that the
mayor and I when we sat down and talked
about budget, we had um ballista glass
or HBAC um doing more of a preventative
maintenance model and looking out and
being more intentional from our risk
management to say, okay, what are we
looking at long term? How can we
mitigate it in advance? Um but uh one of
the other aspects that the mayor
indicated we had been um funding and and
coming to council and asking for uh our
asphalt pavement work those types of
things and he's transitioned that out of
our direct request and putting that back
with service and so there are some
things it's just that resource
reallocation model um and looking at
that but the the number will be pretty
consistent in years past for this year
and giving Paul an opportunity to catch
up. And then for FY26%
increase that just reflecting kind of
what you expect to be on the horizon.
>> It is it really is looking at that
predictive model. Um the HBAC our
building is more than 20 years old now.
So we're starting to feel the impact of
that. Um from window seals to that HVAC
was a a big deal and some of it is
trying to peacemail and keep it
functioning. Um and again Paul has been
um very instrumental in helping us do
that.
>> Yes.
>> Thank you. Thanks chief. Um on the
proposed staffing levels for police
officer 23 to 24 is that 24th the youth
liaison or educational officer that's so
it's being appropriated in the budget.
>> We have so the the mayor has has tasked
us to um look at our existing funds. you
know, we've got some lap salaries, some
internal monies, but we wanted to be
very transparent with council and talk
about that um increase, but it would not
impact the budget.
>> So, it would not be like a new position.
>> It would be a new position. It would be
a new hire that we would backfill. We
would use an existing officer to apply
for that position, but backfill and hire
someone on it.
>> I guess I'm just asked because there was
a document created with all three
positions. I don't believe that one was
on it and I'd be supportive of having
that one created to be able to reflect
the salary range and whatnot to to be
included with those additional new
position jobs.
>> I can answer that. It's not a new
position. It's police officer position.
>> I understand. So that's I guess that's
so it is being created through the
current budgeting but it's not reflected
as a new position. It's an additional
officer to the staffing level that will
create the liaison position. is correct.
>> That is correct.
>> Thank you. Um and then I guess my other
question related to staffing is can you
talk a little bit about our parking
patrol officer, how many hours they're
working in with the things we're doing
in our community from, you know, the new
parking meters to the increase uh
attention on calm corridors and other
areas of concern. Is there the need for
maybe a second part-time or this
becoming a full-time position for
parking authority to help with some of
the traffic calming measures that we are
wanting for our residents?
>> Mr. Sman is trying to get me in trouble
to ask for more people.
>> I mean, I'd be open if parking if
parking control officer could help with
some of the traffic.
>> No, sir. I so um right now as you know
we we have our parking enforcement
officer who manages u a significant
number of responsibilities um to
supplement that what we've done our
police officers are called upon to do
that enforcement you know when you're
looking at best practices um I think
with all the additional things and I
think that's one thing with Beexley as
we continue to um really expand and push
upward and challenge differently uh I
think that you know in six months from
now um we have a conversation to look
and see are we
maximizing what Spence is doing we need
that additional resource um we haven't
projected it yet because we just don't
know so I want to be fair and see what
we're doing in this current model with
Spence being dedicated to that having
our officers divide that time um what
this education and outreach officer what
that position may um also be able to do
or not to you know one of the things we
talked about with um the escooter and
how are we going to educate um does that
mean enforcement do we look at maybe
this officers during that primary point
of contact to do that so I think it's an
everchanging
moment and and a great growth
opportunity for us as well but always
going to be open to the conversation
>> I I just ask that there's a if you
believe through conversations that we
are needing to dedicate more part-time
resources to enforcement for for those
type of of you know uh misdemeanor or
other things related to traffic related.
>> So um I would say if I could table that
and and I would have a direct
conversation with Spence first and just
get really a capacity for his workload
and then be able to to come back with
you more definitively.
>> Yes sir.
>> Can you tell us kind of give us a
description of the position of a
captain and then you know how does that
differ from what a lieutenant does is
that adding a layer of management and
supervision.
>> Absolutely. It's a great question. So
right now um and how that it was divided
between the chief and deputy chief. You
have the operational aspects of the
police department. That's going to be um
patrol. It's going to be dispatch. It's
going to be all the operational aspects.
A lot of even the the questions that
were just posed. Then you have the
administrative side of the building.
That is our detective bureau. That is
the uh accreditation. That is all of our
community relations. It's looking at our
um SRO, all of those other aspects. So
the captain would then oversee the
lieutenants and the sergeants and the
officers that all function under that
patrol. So um from body worn cameras to
all the operational aspects of um patrol
cars and making sure that body worn
cameras are viewed. So all of that area
um I would say with the admin and the
captain within overseer
>> and the follow how the position of
police captain how does that differ from
the uh from the deputy chief position?
>> Um right now it it really does not and
it really is just that placeholder. Um,
you know, one of the things that we've
talked about is succession planning and
being able to build and create
internally and having the um really the
stair steps for growth, for development.
Um, one of the things that it's not in
here, but we're doing we've been very
intentional with executive coaching.
We've actually hired a re a retired
sheriff from Delaware County to come in
and provide executive coaching and
mentoring to our lieutenants. And that's
been happening over the past seven
months to build them for this
opportunity to compete and then to take
on that role.
>> Chief, I had a few questions for you.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> First and foremost, how many officers
currently live in? I know we have a
housing
currently live.
>> Yes, ma'am. We've had as many as seven.
We're down to two.
and that is um uh those officers have
purchased homes. They've gotten married
and um gotten new puppies and transition
out of the the city. Um it has been a a
great um and I think there's three um
we've got Tia, Jeremy, and Melissa who
are all still here in the community. So,
we've got three. Um but it's been great
for them. Um you know, to to have as
many as that we've had at one time. I
think that eb and flow. Um, I think when
we're looking at the potential of
bringing on new hires, that is a huge
benefit. Um, and something that, you
know, and I talk all over the state and
that is something that we are able to
boast and brag about. Um, that's very
enticing for especially young officers
to want to come here.
>> Um, the contract leads um, figure went
down. Is that to be more closely tied to
what was actually spent for 20
if and still allowing for a little bit
more. It went down from
186,000 to a projected 160,000.
>> It's so um that is a slight change, but
it's going to go back up. Um and I know
that because I sit on the Ohio lead
steering committee and so the FBI has
put additional um requirements on the
state of Ohio and so agencies throughout
the state are being impacted with that.
So we're not controlling it. That is
them dictating that that is the cost for
that contractual service.
>> It's going to go back up. Should we have
it closer to what
>> um that's what's proposed and and again
we just had our steering committee
meeting last week and that was some of
the conversation. I think we're good for
now and again that's based on some of
the requirements the FBI had been
placing on the state of Ohio and
actually for other states across the
country.
And my my last question is I know I
think at some point you and the mayor
were going to talk about regular patrols
of the dog park whether it was having
existing
services and resources police
department. We maybe would the idea park
ranger type person. Do you have existing
resources now within the department to
to do that? So, um, one of the things in
this council knows that we have added a
lot to our, um, updates to include our
animal control. And I felt like we, um,
Amy does a fantastic job, but it's
always been reactive. And we had never
tked her to be proactive and to actually
conduct and engage very differently. So,
we have really added a lot of elements.
We've added body cameras um to her. We
have added a reporting system and
administrative responsibilities that she
did not have before. There's an
expectation that she now performs that
visibility um as part of her workday.
And so that's been our answer um
especially during her work hours and
that's when the frequency is there. Then
officers are are stopping in
periodically but we've tried to um
really reallocate and use existing
resources rather than have to to look
externally.
>> Danny Um just gear your question knocked
down another question boo so just um I
know there's been discussion around
potential BD enforcement along
um I guess status of that and is there
any I guess reflection of that in your
budget is it require OT or other
financial considerations
>> so um we have always westbound had
authority per se to take enforcement and
that is that 50 foot radius so there's
noou that's necessarily needed. Um what
our officers typically do or
historically especially on the the later
shifts um later in the afternoon and our
midnight shift typically have that high
visibility um and provide that level of
of enforcement. Um there's some you know
we don't want to my my concern if we do
in trueou is we don't want to get into a
position where uh eastbound which is
truly the city of Columbus um would ever
be miskeewed. We've talked about some
different ideas and um some have been
oneonone or or in private of um creating
a higher visibility on Livingston. One
of the things the mayor and I are
talking about is increasing visibility
on Main Street. You know, we have talked
a little bit about that. We'll have more
to come um and really having a very high
dedicated resource on Main Street. that
will be the the the true um beta testing
for us and then transition more into
Livingston. Um we have partnered with
the highway patrol. We've partnered with
Columbus officers have been out on
Livingston with that visibility um and I
have to tell you they spent a lot of
time in u down at Ferndale um
proactively and reactively. So it's
definitely taking place.
>> Thank you. on this side.
>> Chief, just piggy backing off of um
President Lansky's question with the uh
animal control officer, remind us of
what her I love that that's the
solution. I didn't know that we had
outfitted her with all of those uh
with all that all those supplies. What
uh what are her hours? Remind me of what
her hours are.
>> So Amy's Monday through Friday.
Typically, she's 6:30 to 2:30. Um but in
Ferrris, she's there a lot. Um and and
doing a number of things and you know we
rely on her for safety count. We rely on
her for a number of other things. So I
give Amy a lot of credit. Um she has
filled in on dispatch. I had mentioned
that you know the the part-time model of
having dispatchers. Amy has set desk for
us and provided that level of support.
So um but her true dedicated hours are
that 6:30 to 2:30.
>> So I guess just food for thought would
be weekends with the dog park.
>> Um yes ma'am. And so that could um you
know that goes back to their original
question of of having um a part-time um
component,
>> right?
>> Um you know, I don't know what the
appetite would be out there for an
individual that may want to do that. Um
you know, historically, Beexley had a um
park officers that started here um back
in the 70s. And so um I've had an
opportunity to meet and speak with some
of them that performed those duties
years ago. And so it's not a new model
for us, but something that we could
potentially look look at bringing back.
>> Any other questions on the police
general budget with capital?
>> I think that's chief.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> All right.
So, our capital fund, uh, as many of you
know, um, Officer Shaver and PIA have
just been an absolute
amazing addition to our community, to
our police department, as well as
central Ohio as a whole, what they have
been doing and and the the visibility
and the proactiveness. Um, when we had
the idea and the concept to create a
bomb detection K9, we truly, um, when I
tell you we went to the back of the
parking lot at the police department, we
grabbed the oldest cruiser. We found
someone to, uh, makeshift a cage for
Pia, and we have been operating and
functioning with that for some time. And
we're really at a place now that he
needs his a dedicated specially designed
vehicle that will keep P and P safe that
is industry tested. Um we have found a
Ford F-150 hybrid that Columbus fire and
their bomb detection program program
utilizes. Um it has state-of-the-art
cage and heating and cooling detection
um that will keep uh keep her safe while
while in there. So um we feel that the
success of the program the partnership
with our synagogues places of worship um
it has really shown its value and so
that's why we feel very comfortable and
confident in in making that request. Um
the the second you know this time last
year I shared that we would be um again
good stewards of our budget. Um,
typically we've asked for three cars.
We're asking for one car. Um, we have um
reached a place where um we are very
sustainable and potentially this time
next year the need will probably not be
there to ask for an additional car and
we can continue to u utilize what we're
doing. We work closely with our service
department and and uh maintaining our
vehicles. So again, I think that that's
just um us being really good stewards of
of our equipment. Um the next item uh
the security ballards um that was
something that we have been working with
um
stakeholders specifically with redesign
the exterior of the police department.
We had removed um some um old bushes and
and just um obstructions and so this
will really provide a level of safety
and security out in front. Um and that
was um all designed in there. And we,
you know, again, from a community
relations perspective, look at those
ballards as as an opportunity for kids
to come paint them, design, do different
things and make that uh really a
community opportunity. Um the next two
items are part of the slow down Beexley
initiative. And as many of you know,
this has um you know, and I think to to
the mayor and I surprise the number of
people who have uh subscribed to
requesting speed data and then the
directed patrols that have come as a
result of that. But those two items
specifically would give us even more
bandwidth and exposure to tracking the
information to providing that back. on
the speed trailers that we could move
mobiley, the visibility, the markings,
the branding um really would change
things in how we would do and support
the the slow down VEX initiative. Um
next item um similar to to Eric with it
and the cameras. These are police call
boxes that's been added to our capital
fund just to to because that call box
would come back to the police department
for assistance. And then lastly, we've
already talked a little bit about the
facilities and some of the capital
improvements um exterior um fascia with
the brick work of the ballistic glass as
well as the HVAC.
>> Sam,
>> quick question about the ballards
because I think I had something else in
mind. I was thinking about those
portable ballers that you see at events
such so
>> free. Yes.
>> Um additionally, is there any appetite
for
because typically we have events let's
just say like these street event
cars
of park um to save on wear and tear with
that making sense to look into those so
park
>> yeah I think that um just as you know
we're in a unique design with the front
being the alleyway and I think um right
now even a resident just simply um
without any afair various um thoughts
could simply get reversed and be in our
reports room. And so it really is just
creating that structure and that
protective barrier for us.
>> Excuse your hand up or you just wait.
>> Um the facility capital improvement
budget is that reflective of work
towards the main street um position. No
sir, that's specific for um the the
headquarters. Um what um um what Alex is
asking about, some of you may or may not
know, but we are looking to partner with
um Torment and creating a um presence on
Main Street and having a substation
concept as part of that partnership and
looking to occupy that. But we're still
waiting on some documentation, some
lease work. um talked to um Mark Fisher
earlier about that um and looking to
have a very public announcement for that
partnership and that visibility. We hope
to unveil that potentially next month.
Um but right now that structure we would
occupy it, but there we're using some
existing funding to to kind of do some
upgrades um doors safety.
>> No new no additional request for
funding.
>> No, no additional.
>> Thank you.
>> Yes, sir. Chief, I had a question about
the speed warnings trailer.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> I guess it's kind of two part. Can't we
use the existing speed warning trailers
or do you need additional speed warning?
So, and this kind of goes full circle
back to the earlier comment of that the
number of requests that we get is high
and this gives us so much more bandwidth
to be able to respond to to the
requests. Um, you know, I I'll use Mr.
Madison um as a great example. um we get
a lot of requests from he in particular
and it gives us the ability to get real-
time data not only there to address his
concerns but all the other citizens in
Beexley that have asked for that and to
be able to calculate it and be able to
provide that and they're mobile so we'll
be able to move that um as well as some
of the other ones that we have
>> and I guess the follow then is is one
enough
>> um that's actually I think for two
>> different parts
>> yes ma'am so that's for us to purchase
two.
>> Yeah, I think it's Let's get back to
that. This is not just this is not
typical,
>> right? Those are way less expensive. So,
these are um these are speed warning uh
trailers that uh send warnings to
motorists that are speeding that they
track speed. Right. So, I think this is
for one trailer chief. Let's clarify
that. Yeah, I I'm trying to recall. Many
of you remember
>> this one is I think
>> Okay, so we we we have two used that we
just purchased and then this is for the
the Cadillac version. There's that card
>> like the MRI.
>> Uh but it it is a very very
state-of-the-art
um as the mayor said and to be able to
track the information um you know it's
um that technology to be able to send
information, warnings, etc. Um and to be
able to provide that and populate it
back on the web page and to show where
that information is going.
>> We appreciate the clarification because
it's much different from the ones that
we can clarify for the next
other questions on this.
>> And when you say send to the voters, are
you like mail or
>> Yeah. So it takes a picture and sends
>> Y
and well not so you the vehicle that you
own registered to you
>> was going 50 miles an hour and 25 aware
of that it's not used as an enforcement
tool
>> uh it's used as an educational tool I
think it'll also be very helpful for
parents uh drivers um so it's something
Dublin has has started uh rolling out I
want to give our team major
When we came back with the Dublin model,
it was way way way higher than that
price and I challenged them to go back
and find some more creative ways to do
the same thing. They came back with a
much reduced
uh option especially not just the
upfront is big cost but it can be the
ongoing just use of material. It's very
important
technology. Um I think it's a powerful
way to make sure that
um especially parents know but also
motors know like we are tracking speed
where it's going on um
and it's not it does not fall foul some
of the statutoations of actual
>> other questions before we move on to the
next slide.
Hey,
health and human services. Okay, this is
an expanded department
from years prior.
Uh, this department has in the past
covered our Franklin County Health
Department
as well as contract.
We have added to it this year the
concept is one of the new positions
we're proposing which is a part-time
robust part-time social service
coordinator.
This individual would work alongside
multiple city departments to provide
wraparound services uh for residents and
households that are need of additional
support. We have a lot of interface not
just with the police department with
code enforcement. We're coming across
issues of people having some chronic
mental health issues or or financial
insecurity and uh really as you guys
know we've been brainstorming how to
bring this on board. Um this model would
have that part-time employee in place.
One of my major concerns that we don't
have the skill set at administrative
level to to supervise a social service
worker. And so with this model, you'll
also see a new line on it that says
social service contract supervisor.
So with this, we would actually contract
out a seasoned professional within
counseling and social work to help us
supervise that employee, help us build
out this program. Um I believe that is a
higher frontend cost because of the
initial hiring program development than
it would be an ongoing cost. Uh but that
is at $20,000 a year. So the final
change to this budget is the addition
into this budget of that darn included
security grant just to last year was a
oneoff appropriation
appropriations.
We also have an add-on to our
contract
uh to help support any professional
services that could help visor group. I
don't know if you guys noticed we had
inordinate amount of mosquito spraying
this season. Um,
you know, we did have a wet, it's hard
to remember this, we had a drought later
on, but early on we had a very wet
season period of time.
We have portions of our our city
residents who really concerned about the
ongoing of spring
in all of that has been a we listening
care about that but also
those households opt out spraying. So
the net effect is we are spraying about
half of our city. Uh so we spray about
half of our city. Uh we don't have very
effective mosquito control. We also know
that that mosquito spray I won't go into
details here mosquito spray so far into
many yards is that really that truly
effective perspective. So we want to
continue to study that. We rely on
resident advocacy groups to do that. do
that internally partnership
time for next season.
>> Uh two question one is in regards to the
food security grant. Um so that's not
us or
where is it?
>> Well, this is what we did last year with
a summer summer support with DAR
partnership. Um so that is not ECF
that's that's our darn it's really some
of the models we had during the and and
just in regards to darn the funding
there is that how in general is darn
because I I was under the impression
they get donations and grants
so we are stepping in to essentially
make that donation
city is receiving D received a grant
from the community foundation, a grant
from the education foundation, a grant
from us. So we all partnered together.
All right, I'll
come back to it. In regards to the
mosquito contract advisor group, we had
that incredibly detailed report after
study mosquitoes back on our community.
Um, so you're saying that we are going
to step away from that group and
No, no, because they're actually
new phase of that study with OSU. It's
not just it's brand
what I'm saying is I want to get
experts from the field um convening them
here to talk about what is best strategy
just season
every summer. Um I think our community
is pretty ly that approach. I'm
frustrated having to make call every
week. You know, do we follow the um the
recommendation of public health when we
have other public health experts saying
something else? So, I I want at least
get a comfort level in conjunction with
some members of our board of health
about where we stand going into the next
season. Now, that spend actually might
be zero. So, I don't I wanted to have a
placeholder in there just to see if we
needed to have any sort of outside
expertise or study to recur. I don't
Um, yeah. So, I I love the investment in
social service media rural health, but I
do want to understand more about each of
these roles separately and then how
they're going to interate. I guess first
on the um the social services
coordinator, do you have a candidate in
mind or this be a true true um and I
know in the past we've tried to identify
position I guess in the hierarchy or
this person report to it direct report
to you.
>> Yeah, it's a good question. Um first off
we haven't finalize the program so we
don't have a job description yet. Part
of that would be in getting started with
social service contract supervisor to
work with it. uh that person it would
probably be a situation where they would
report the dual reporting to the
contract supervisor
>> and is our director of administration
development but we have yet
and then on the contract position you
know you and I spoke you have vigilant
mind for that
>> essentially
contract position I assume RP
we would yeah go
Um,
I think that's that's all for now. I'll
come back.
>> So, this would be kind of a a new
innovative position. We don't really see
these positions
in other cities, I don't think. So, can
you tell us like I mean I guess I
understand generally where you're coming
from, but where is the need for this
arising and why how will this be
different from
how I think all the other cities do,
which is they refer people to existing
county programs and things like that.
We've we've just seen um
a huge gap between that referral and
actual effective service. I would say
there are other cities doing this. Um
we I've toured the Mount Vernon program
where they have it embedded in the
police department. uh Gana and
Reynoldsburg also have uh positions like
this again vetting the police
department. Um city of Columbus
obviously very different than us but so
we're not the first to think about what
I think is different about this and I
think it's born from our experience and
just the nature effects that we got at
the human scale that is is that we see
that you know it's yeah there is
definitely police interaction where we
see instances of massive distress
financial stress and other where there
could be additional touch base after the
fact. But I see it a ton in code
enforcement. I see it a lot in um
people walking into city hall and uh
whether they're coming to pay a water
bill or coming to pay a ticket. We are
interacting routinely with residents,
stakeholders
see the potential need for follow. Now
that's not to say that everybody has
that need is going to take us up. Can
you what what you're just saying there
can you kind of walk us through an
example of like a successful scenario
with this position and supplements. So,
I'm going to try to make sure anything I
say is anonymous, but I can think of a
recent code enforcement issue where we
had a uh individual who had lost their
partner and um was
um
had some severe hoarding occurring and
some some major public health issues
associated with the condition of the
property. And we noticed that it took
about nine months we get to the point
where we could get really good support
from that person where they really had
to reach this like peak level of crisis
where it was frankly very discouraging
know that it had to go that far before
it got the attention of county level
agencies that could help us service it.
So that would be one example of many
handfuls where we could have a service
worker a social service coordinator come
in hopefully provide better resourcing
early on and at least draw the
connections and have the expertise that
you know, we don't have that extra
choice to go enforcement. Even with our
officers who are fantastic at dealing
with public, they go from one ship to
the next. There's not the same amount of
follow. So, this kind of creates case
work model is very different from the
triage occurs.
Feels like that position, one of the
challenges of of creating a new position
for a small city like ours is if that
position is going to have
uh peak times and low times. And so if
we have someone in place for instance
and we have, you know, periods where
there's very little,
nothing's coming up, what's what's that
person that we do? I'll let you know.
I mean, I think that some of this is
some of this is um learning and adapting
as we learn about it. And I think the
one thing I would deemphasize is that
this is not going to be a position
that's a 247 on call, right? It's not
showing this position is not showing up
at 3:00 a.m. when there's a crisis
situation with the police department
somewhere. Um maybe in extreme
circumstances, but overall that is not
the problem. Um this is a position that
would come in the next day to work and
have referrals to do follow. And so that
peak and trough sort of model which gets
over I think from the nature of it's
referral based and then they're managing
case loads where they're you know
they're going back and following up and
so I think done well it's not going to
have that sort of like
how is that interaction then it sounds
like you're kind of describing that
interaction with the case management
supervisor
what's that like and what's what is the
supervisor bringing to this
relationship. So, I think that's the one
reason that we think that's really
important is that the supervisor having
more experience extensively than most
likely than our part-time
employee would be able to talk through
that on a weekly basis, help manage
workloads, help innovate the program
further if there are gaps that we're
we're seeing. Um, again, it's an area of
expertise that we don't have and I think
it's the ability to bring something in
from the outside to help support One
last thing. I think what I would like to
see and I think what would be a logical
uh addendum to this is uh maybe a
comprehensive job description. And I
know you said you kind of created a
posting for it, but you know, I mean,
I'd kind of like to see that, but what
would that posting look like? Well, we
will send it to you. The draft,
>> do you have something?
>> Yeah. So I think um I want to kind of
maybe help support um so um I met with
Dublin, Mount Vernon and Reynoldsburg
and um I think the the biggest
disconnect and we've seen this in our
community where um police are called we
then um do a pink slip which is that
universal mental health crisis um
typically anywhere from 72 hours up to a
week but then there's a disconnect.
there's no really a resource to be able
um you know we are so reactive in police
work. This is really a proactive
response and the city being able to
provide that. Um you know many of the
other agencies actually have that um
person um provide u they do ride alongs,
they do a lot of um just proactive
messaging. I think we see this I could
see this building especially with our
schools and being able to build a
relationship around um families that
need that additional support and it
doesn't feel um heavy-handed with police
and we have that conduit um and that
connectivity and really knowing how to
triage what resources are are out there
and available. I think we've seen um
here, you know, in the past six months a
number of instances where mental health
has been a a major safety concern and we
just didn't have that that piece to be
able to say this is how we're going to
help manage and mitigate outside of it
being a police matter.
>> And then have you have you seen um have
you had experience that seeing a
physician like that in place? Um, so
what I've learned in probably Dublin I
think um has um and kind of going back
to the mayor's comment um oftentimes
that senior person may have an
understudy who is working on their PhD
or getting their certification and so um
they're having that supervision. Um
Dublin's model was um originally funded
through car's money. Um they had a lot
of money in support as we know and then
all of a sudden those monies went away
but they found it to be so successful
that the city is finding it. Um
Reynoldsburg um same thing. They um it's
there's a heavy integration. The mayor
and I talked about this with police. I
think because of the size of our city,
it's really a city resource and having a
a little bit of a disconnect from the
police um is actually a better business
model for us here as opposed to to being
embedded directly with our police
department. So, um, and I think that,
you know, again, from a a beta test, um,
we definitely have some resources. And
then to your point, um, with that
downtime, I think that, um, schools, I
think that, you know, one of the
questions, uh, posed to me earlier was
what are the resources we're providing
for those moments of homelessness that
we're engaging? And I think this would
be a direct response to be able to say
this is that contact person. Um, as
opposed to us simply saying, call
Franklin County. Um, and it's
unfortunate, but that's not always, you
know, um, there's not always another
voice on that side being able to help it
>> as opposed to us having that internal
piece.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Yeah, Councilman Mark covered majority
of my questions, so I appreciate that
dialogue. Um, just to to follow up with
uh what uh he had asked for, I guess on
the hiring description, are we looking
at defining some minimum qualifications
from a licensing standpoint with this
coordinator um licensed social worker,
some kind of criteria based um for this
position because they will be working in
a lot of these fields and connected with
Franklin County and other jurisdictions
that have outreach coordinators and
other layer positions similar to that to
be kind of tuned into that.
>> Yes. And I would like to
>> So I've had the opportunity to do a
little preliminary research um on the
social services coordinator and um like
chief looking at other municipalities
that have this role. Um and there um so
Upper Arlington is one who also has this
position that hasn't been uh mentioned
yet. And um most of those um agencies
are very specific about um what type of
lure um they would have. Um Upper
Arlington for example is very um was
very clear that they wanted their person
not to function in a clinical capacity
and so they sought credentiing that
matched more of a um you know a
community social worker versus a
clinical licensed social worker. And so
we'll be looking at um our uh our
partner municipalities that have already
had a position like this when we look at
um that type of um requirements.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah. So lastly um and thinking about
this role and falls under health and
human services which is where
Elizabeth's role fell under as well.
Correct.
Yeah, but I I see both. Yeah, I see
these goals when we're looking at this
and and bringing this on as we did with
weird figuring out bring on
sustainability coordinator and trying to
navigate what that meant for the city
and um whatot and then since then we've
had grant support that has justified
their salary. I see that happening here
as well with someone in this role. I
also see crossover when we're talking
about counseling and schools and we're
talking about food insecurities. seems
like it's a heightened time in our
community where there's a lot of people
trying to handle it and if we had
experts in that um and crossover with
Elizabeth's role and this um social
services coordinator I see a lot of
benefits in that but I'm hoping that
that's something that we're looking at
job description y those models
>> 100% and another point I haven't made
yet because I don't know for a fact yet
we're still confirming through our
research we believe that we can probably
with the opioid settlement funds that
we're receiving which are the tune of 15
to 20,000 a year right now currently at
50,000 plus
so this this should be fairly offset
>> council any other questions
>> just a couple thoughts um you know one
one piece of this that I think be a nice
and quite where it fits between these
two enumerated roles is that crisis
stability I know it's going to be can be
on call 24/7, but when we do have those
very rare, very serious issues, you
know, if there is a resource that can be
more of a resource for the police
department. I know there are some models
in other communities. Um, I don't know
how they can be grafted onto this, but I
just would love to research that a
little more. Um, the only the only thing
with this I just
I have been approached by some residents
who have backgrounds who are very
interested in being part of this mix.
And so I know we're we're looking at a
you know part-time role in this
contracted supervisor role. Um I guess
just maybe I if we can be open to
alternative kind of frameworks you know
if we don't get a ton of great
candidates maybe some come forward and
can offer their services contractually.
I guess I'd want to see a little
flexible what might be out there. I mean
if I'm being honest I'd love to see us
we put like an RFI out and just see what
kind of ideas we might get if it was
more blank slate. But you know you spend
a lot of time on this over the years.
So I want to you know I guess yeah
that's that's what I'll say for this but
I love the investment. Um I just want to
see investment we're very open to other
alternatives. We did it by actually for
this it was a little bit more through
like standard agencies that support it
back. It's one of the things that led us
to a very and maybe if you're ready we
have some I know interested residents
both without background some
with you and others
are moving on to fire emergency.
>> Hey guys, it's the last slide. You're
sad to hear it.
>> It's a it's a doozy.
fire contracts
is lower.
>> We have a 2.56% increase in our disaster
relief contracts Franker County
Emergency Management. I'm happy to
answer any questions about that.
With that, that
>> concludes
Troy, you have a question.
>> Yeah, I just I don't know, you know,
when the appropriate time for this is
the second reading ever, but I didn't
specifically have some time and pulling
back. I do want to note, and you're
probably waiting for me to bring this up
anyway, Mr. Mayor, but this would be the
first budget that we do not have an
input into the budget stability fund.
Given that our uh revenues are
outperforming our expectations, again,
it would seem like an odd time to not
continue to do that. Well, that was a
trick question. I'm glad you asked it
because we do in fact have a pretty
substantial decrease in our budget
stability fund. It's not the flexibility
fun you're thinking of. Okay. So, when
we set up the pool replacement fund and
the infrastructure fund, they will both
serve as auxiliary budget stability
funds in case.
So, we have over $3 million. I think we
um our overall reserves I just closed
out of this
uh
are
some of those earlier slides. So, this
light blue color
shows the actual budget stability
account balance and then adding in the
pool replacement fund which is that
light blue and the dark blue is our
actual just our general fund balance.
>> So, you can see how these reserves are
growing over time with the current
amount of investment.
>> And auditor and I talked about this at
length. One of the challenges with the
budget ility to find it home on its own
is that it can only be accessed in the
case of a fiscal emergency which has
never been declared our city. So we felt
that it makes best sense to continue to
put in money on long-term reserves that
could be accessed in this case of fiscal
emergency but that alternate dual
purposes down the road.
The pool replacement a great example
that we don't expect to replace our pool
in the next decade or the next two
decades when the time comes we'll have
this built up deserve for it that in the
instance of a fiscal emergency
we've also exceeded the
uh initial when the budget account was
initially established it was established
by dollar now two so we're well in
advance of the the target for stability
funding. Matt, if you'd like to add
anything to that?
>> No, I mean I think you know that I mean
obviously this is also trying to grab
the the graph for representation about
overall reserves and you know ultimately
targeting that 30%. So it's really about
creating flexibility in the reserves
versus digital dollars for very specific
that existing stability fund stays
intact under this construction. So that
money is still requires a fiscal
emergency to be declared which is
averting the new
distributions.
Yeah. So that's that sort of
stays the same as the rest I think rest
>> that your presentation on ordinance
>> happy to always answer more questions
but otherwise
>> council any any additional questions or
comments on this ordinance
official speaker
>> Mr.
But no, we don't.
>> All right. Ordinance. Second reading.
Ordinance 26-25 to establish
compensation rates for non-bargain
employees of the city of effective
January 1st, 2026. Introduced by Miss.
>> So nice to you guys to have you guys
budget
right after that. Um we are rolling. All
right. So let's dive into this. as we
did last week. This is our compensation
rates for the city. And exhibit A, if we
if we want to pull that up and just take
a quick look again, um that is our full
time and part-time uh stepping
um pay scale that requires uh or enables
an employee to have health insurance.
And then below it are part-time,
seasonal, and temporary um that do not
have access to health insurance for
that.
>> I think that has to do with pay scales
as well.
>> We have our HR.
>> Yeah,
>> yeah. So, um if I could So, exhibit A is
um our full-time and permanent part-time
um job classifications. So um
contrasting that with exhibit B which
are um are part-time seasonal temporary
and casual job classifications. Um the
uh positions that are in the first
exhibit A those are ones where we would
expect somebody would to stay in there
for a career or for a time and there's
step increases built into there. Um and
you'll see um those seven steps there.
And then the other exhibit B, those are
a lot of our um recreation and parks
department, our temporary. And then
traditionally our police department
roles um have had um one um sort sort of
minimum and maximum are the same. And
that really reflects the practice there.
um as well as um just throughout that
department um their their contract uh
basis as well that they have.
>> Then just to remind council along with
this we have the new roles in our budget
folder um under second readings that was
asked for by council
which is reflective of this as well.
Council any questions on ordinance 26-25
invite and reading our schedule
correctly at our next meeting next
Tuesday. um presentations behind my
price. Sorry,
>> we'll be reviewing the capital fund then
also for
>> record service
on this
for this ordinance.
All right, we are now under resolution
08-25
to schedule the back of city council
meeting dates and times the year 2026
introduced by Miss L.
I hope you were able to maybe take a
look at some of the proposed meeting
dates for 2026.
Um, I I will tell you that I did hear
from the Swan Council that will have a
conflict for the dates in on January
13th and February 10th. Um, and there is
also a typo for the suggested date
second meeting in December. Instead of
December 12th, it should be December
15th. But does anybody else anticipate a
conflict with
post states as of now. I think if we
only have one council member who would
have a conflict, we can go forward. But
did you have a conflict as well?
>> Yeah, I continue. Well, I brought up the
last meeting, the August 11th date. Um,
it's a little can be tricky with people
getting back school starting the week
after
the 18th.
>> How do folks feel about that? August 118
hearing one for 18 looks generally okay
with that.
What I what I would like to do um given
that the meeting dates are on exhibit A
and Mark because exhibit A, we can
change the exhibit, right? So Nav, I'm
going to ask if we can change December
12th to 15th.
We can change August 11th to August
18th.
Take off anything that's not meeting
date like we have Thanksgiving. Take
that off. Um, and if folks are okay, we
have on the Senate agenda for the
>> any further comments or questions?
Mr. M, any speaker on 8-25?
>> All right, moving on to resolution 09-25
adopting the city of Baxley's cyber
security policy as required by Ohio
Revised Code section 9.64 introduced by
Mr.
Uh thank you. So I know we had
information shared via email of M
official mayor and I just sent you all
the actual code language section 9.64
code. Um I don't have really too much
else to add on this. I know we received
some very thoughtful uh feedback from
members of the community on potential
changes to incident
um that in the future will be evaluated.
I think make is this this very
thoroughly policy was already developed
by the administration law before the
general assembly and house bill 96
earlier this year said hey legislative
bodies need to adopt or recognize the
policy. So we've got a pretty robust
policy in place but again I think um
we're always looking to evolve. It was
great having our IT department in here
earlier to talk through uh their their
investments in cyber security. So um
with that u
anything you want to add? I would have
hypothesizing
>> I have nothing to add. Well said, Mr.
Just said was initially I think adopt
1.3. There are supplemental additional
pieces to it that aren't part of the
statutoily required adoptions and it is
ever evolving and u like you said it
receives some great feedback. pass along
to IT for future uh appropriation
whether it is mental health
professionals or cyber security experts.
We have some real gems index
some
additional questions comments
on
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if I conf
and
sorry we'll take a chance to to chat
separately as well certainly a good
start um to the plan but to your note
that this was crafted in 2023
um I would offer maybe a small tweak to
your actual resolution langage you
talked about that you have the
opportunity to advi revise the plan. I
should probably say at least minimally
every year since 2023 when this was
adopted. Um after that that I took the
liberty of looking at what has changed
and what would that impact your plan and
and frankly the district framework has
been updated since 2023 and includes a
section called government um which is
not seen in our plan. So our plan is no
longer in line with best practices
according to the that you are to so I
think updating the resolution language
to say at least once a year we would
analyze and look at the plan and see
what else has changed security changes
all the time so I don't have to tell
some of the folks in this room and you
want to stay aligned to whatever that
best practices is so I would say
minimally once a year you should look at
it according to the plan though and I
have notes I left them at the office and
then took them by my that too. So off
the cuff, we'll see how I do. Um, three
points for the cyber plan that I would
ask you to consider updating and
changing. Number one, refer to a
communications plan, but do not provide
the said communications plan with the
cyber security attack. There are
lawfully things that you have to do for
residents and communication. You should
also be including communication as part
of your incident response planning and
tabletop exercises. So I would ask let
residents know what your plan is and so
we can actually evaluate and understand
who will communicate when able to
communicate and what um number two would
have been um a lot of focus of that plan
around IoT recovery which was great what
you don't talk about is continuity of
operations so you don't talk about
business continuity so how services
continue to be provided to residents
um during some sort of cyber attack. Um
that should be part of the tabletop
exercises should also be part of the um
communications plan. So definitely
something to consider whether that be
how are you going to build for water,
how are you going to
do dispatch services, I'm sure you
already have plans for but making sure
you're letting us know how that will
happen will be helpful. Um and then the
third the third the third was um around
um prioritization of systems that are
down, right? So during the cyber attack,
you do not want to have to think about
what's the order of operations and
priority for how I will restore systems.
What you don't have in your plan is your
kind of schema for how you will then go
after each system and money. So what's
which things do you bring up back up
first, second, third, fourth? Um, and
included with that should also be a
targeted timeline for how long it will
be back for certain type of service or
certain type of writing. If you have
that, that means when um, Chief Lewis
may when they are in an attack, you
don't want them to have to decide in
that moment what they do first, second
or third. It should already be part of
part of their plan. So, great start in
2020. Great. Let's update it to 2025 and
um maybe basic
couple comments and I really appreciate
that input. I mean I'm not an IT person
and I don't doubt that you'll be a
valuable source of information. But but
keep in mind one thing. Um this this
cyber security policy is
simply something that you have to that
all of a sudden never we've had the
policy for for a long time and it's not
the only policies that the city has on
regarding cyber security. this policy
that you're approving just simply needs
is not supposed to be the be all and end
all of everything that the city has
regarding cyber security. Um it's
supposed to lead from a legal
standpoint. It's it has to cover
specific things that House Bill 96 is
now mandating to all jurisdictions have
in their policy. We had to add a couple
things because House Bill 96 added a
couple things. But the the policy
already was virtually completely in
compliance with House Bill 96. And keep
in mind, House Bill 96 was designed to
address every jurisdiction in the state
of Ohio. Perhaps is a little more
sophisticated when it comes to cyber
security and a little more um outfront
on things again with the obviously
updates and things that need to be
changed. But this that what you're
approving is just simply to show the
state and auditor's office that we have
the m at least the minimum required by
the law. We have way more than that that
has been in policy and will continue to
be in policy.
>> Thank you Mark.
>> Thank you.
>> Chief, did you want to add something
>> if possible? A lot of the comments that
were shared. Absolutely. um there is an
overlap and and so for us with emergency
management when you talk about the
continuity of operation plan we've done
the coupe development in our emergency
management and so a lot of um with that
communications plan and and working with
each independent entity within the city
and so that's housed in a different
place and so I think that's important to
know that we've been working due
diligently on on a lot of the areas that
we mentioned um but I would also be
remiss if I would not say that some of
those elements we also have maintained
as confidential and private because we
obviously don't want the bad guys to
know how we're going to manage and
mitigate if they were going to attack
us. So, some of those things are um kept
very close to the vest, but u but
extremely helpful and love to um offline
um Eric, you the mayor and really talk
through um just kind of that thinking
that process. Um you know, we we really
brag and boast of the fact that we have
been so successful um unfortunately
compared to some some other cities that
have not.
>> Thank you, Chief.
>> And the bill.
>> Yes.
Um I would just add uh you know purches
did send a very thorough report forward
right up to Ben to ask and the mayor
start to respond to facilitate that
meeting which I I think is fantastic.
I'd love to sit in the room and not
probably understand most of what's said
but um but yeah I think going back to
the res section one does does we are
authorizing updates periodly. I think
I'm open to adding you know every
kind of language, but we need to be
about something.
>> We're going to move on.
>> All right, we are moving on to
resolution uh 10-25 establishing the
scheduling of Independence Day
celebrations, including the parade and
evening fireworks display introduced by
Miss Link.
>> Thank you. Um it's council. I think for
two prior meetings, um we talked about
how we previously had a resolution that
quarters that fall for the July
activities to be held on the fourth. So
the fourth is the fourth fourth, but
because of um maybe some recent
experiences this past July 4th in
consultation with the mayor, the police
chief, uh I felt it prudent to bring
this resolution to council, which simply
adjust in the following way. The parade
would still be held on the 4th. Um but
um any other evening festivities and
especially the fireworks display could
be scheduled yearby year on a case by
case basis as determined by the mayor
consultation with the chief and
consultation with our PC folks as they
see fit. So that's really what this
resolution entails. I'm happy to take
comments or questions.
>> I would just offer um I have conducted a
very non-scientific bowl of my neighbors
and friends and they not only love the
idea of splitting two big events so it's
not one very long day but they also I
can recognize some of the things the
chief shared with us about just crowd
control at passport
celebrations need harmonize it with what
so I I think this is
consider
>> any other comments questions from
council
Should we pick any
>> slips?
There was a suggestion for consent
agenda. I'm good with that.
>> I I I think that if there is somebody
who's really passionate about this,
especially we've had a celebration this
way for a long period of time. If they
could have made it tonight, I would hear
from no rush. It's not like this next
month. So, while I anticipate supporting
this, I think that certainly open case
for somebody else.
for
>> you have next next Tuesday.
>> Sounds good. Unless we have a timing
issues with
>> No, wait. You're talking about consent
agenda.
different sanctuation will buy a house
based upon etc. So let's just
>> how's it been time? I'm just curious.
I'm trying to understand different
different days to come speak to it or
etc. In terms of just more time to
consider something set next I just feel
like it's just a rush. I mean in general
I think that if it's something that's
not just strictly moving money around
something just give it additional time
additional understand what you're what
you're saying.
>> Don't think you I certainly do. I'm just
saying that look all right I'm I'm
against the consent agenda. So I mean we
can sit here and say we agree or we
disagree or I understand or I don't
understand but I'm saying that generally
I can see somebody coming at the next
week's meeting and then me hearing
something saying I want more time for
this. I want a table. I want something
else or what's Yeah. So what I'm this is
not about this resolution. I just want
to make sure that everyone understands
that when it's on a consent that's no
different public comment no time period
sounds different about the the ability
of the
ability of the community I think to to
access information come speak to us in
the timeline I I guess I would disagree
I might hear something you want to push
that further and I understand they could
come but now it's already on the consent
agenda I guess we can
>> just yeah rush it just seems to me like
that's just I get and I think the
consension has great l just complete
agreement. I think it's a long-standing
tradition that I want to make sure that
this is going out there consistently
that people have the opportunity to come
speak with us. We have another meeting
next week. We can hear at that point
certainly that you know we can make
their next
I just making sure that it seemed like I
wanted to make sure it was clear that
there's no difference.
>> I think you're hearing four council
members say they don't want this on the
consent agenda. This isn't about this
piece of legislation. I'm just talking
about like I was clarifying it was
different.
>> Well, I can see the consent agenda for
anyone listening or here tonight. I also
want to remind folks that you can submit
the speaker slip um on any piece of
legislation. The consent agenda also has
opportunity for public comment. But I'm
good with that and we'll we'll leave it
for
>> So before we do move on though, I do
believe there is some I mean obviously
July 3rd is not rolling around anytime
soon, but there is some pressure to line
up the fireworks company at some point.
I'm not saying by next Tuesday, but
there so there is some time. We we do
have pressure to line it up. Again, my
comments have nothing to do with that.
there is a third grade next. I was just
it seemed like it seemed like there was
some I want to be clear that you can
always speak to any agenda even
again I don't want to belabor it
more time
>> we're going to move on
>> I have a question now that I'm starting
to hear different things this this
resolution
it is explicitly talking about moving
the fireworks to the third and the
parade to the fourth or is it giving
freedom for every here that that
decision to be made and changed because
the resolution sounds like it's just
saying that it allows the scheduling of
these events to be decided
based off of do do we meet as a
committee and decide that we're going to
approve the dates or how does that work
like because I know residents will want
to know what is the itinerary for that
so what exactly mechanism is the
resolution doing in regards to those
dates the resolution that is leaving the
parade on the 4th and the evening
activities including the fireworks
display would be scheduled in
consultation with chief the mayor and
>> so that that is basically saying that
every year the fireworks explicitly can
change dates they're not going to be
solidified in correct that's the way
it's written celebrations
>> celebrations is there a reason that
we're not committing to a hard date for
section two compared to that you want.
>> I think it leaves the flexibility. I
think I have a lot of trust in our chief
and our mayor and I know that it
wouldn't just be a decision made between
them. They would also consult additional
stakeholders including AC, but do you
have suggestions?
>> Well, I just I guess as we talk about
the third reading that we're going to do
for this, if residents have strong
feelings, I want to be clear that
section two the intent is to move the
fireworks to the third and I think that
that needs to be expressed so people be
aware of the intention because it's very
vague and if you read this just quickly
you're not you might not realize what
the intent of the resolution is doing.
>> Seems like we know
it
>> take us to our next
process.
>> No. Okay. We are on to ordinance 27-25
to amend title 10 bicycles, motorcycles,
snowmobiles of part four of the codified
ordinances to amend section 474.07
safe riding regulations for bicycles to
amend section 474.12
operations of mini operation of
miniikes, scooters, etc. on sidewalks,
parks, and school grounds. to amend
section 474.18
electric bicycles of to create section
475 motorized personal mobility devices
in order to further regulate the
operation of bicycles electric bicycles
and motorized personal mobility devices
introduced by Mr. America
>> good job
just aside the chief since he's still
here I don't know anything about the
existing labor agreement that we had
with the f but having your officer stay
through an entire budget city council
wait a rule in humane
he is right
thanks anyway we had the first meeting
of this uh last last week last meeting
um we get a lot of input into
And I'd like to specifically thank uh
council member Sad who uh sent along
some examples of the education part of
this which is I think you know one of
the things I've tried to emphasize as
well. We are changing the law but we're
also really spending a lot of time and
energy educating the public on proper uh
safe use of of these these uh motorized
vehicles. And then also uh council
member Marcelino who interact with
resident who wanted to make sure that
those personal mobility scooters would
be excluded. So we are not going to
deprive our residents of their ability
to use those mobility scooters on the
sidewalks. We're not going to require
them to use helmets and we won't limit
them to going less than 45 hours if they
can get their vehicle out there. Open
this up to
uh comment. I don't think we've made any
changes since last time or or there no
proposed changes
council. Are there any comments or
questions on this one?
>> Mr. Harley,
>> um yeah, I know when u I sat in one of
the community forums, um I may asked you
about this. I have a few neighbors I've
seen that they have probably, you know,
fourth and sixth graders who have these
motorized electric. They look like dirt
bikes. They got razor na product. The
top speed is well below like a class one
or two. I think they top out I think 15.
They're pretty likely and pretty small,
you know, so fourth grader could ride
it. Where do they fit in all of this? I
I just I I you know, I know they
resemble a dirt bike, but they're pretty
slow. They're more tend to be like a
power wheel, but they are two wheels and
they do have a little bit of pick up to
them. So, where are they fitted?
>> Yeah, I think the answer is they're not
regulated by this. Um, they are not able
to be legally written on the street
because they don't fall under bicycle or
scooter. Okay.
>> Okay.
with with the way this is written, if a
person has an ebike that's not using the
motor, are they still?
So, if they're if they're using the
ebike as a pedal bike, would they be
permitted to be on the sidewalk with
this?
>> The way they're currently written is
that it's just no one
sidewalk as defined by glass. So, So I
guess I guess in and there's a lot of
residents that have provided feedback
that they if they train their younger
kids to use the sidewalks when the
streets narrow or if there's a situation
and if they're to using it properly and
not using the motor or to be able to
carve out wording to allow that to be
permissible uh on this. So is that
something that we want to discuss?
But we certainly could legally if that
to China there we could we could we
could make clear that there's an
exception of this council's wishes that
when an ebike is being used as a an old
traditional bicycle that that that it
could be used by the side
>> I would support that personally.
>> Will you yield for a question?
>> Hang on a second. I want everyone to
have a truth first.
>> I was just I was just just following up
what I'm saying. Yeah. Yes. I'm just
saying I guess now I'm proposing that.
>> Um and the other council member have
follow question.
>> Is it your vision that if they're using
it just as a old fashioned bicycle that
the age restrictions?
>> No.
>> Is it that easy for someone to know
whether or not someone using it as a
radio or as a
pedal.
>> It's not I've only been on one once and
I don't really
>> It would be the act of pedaling
>> to to move
and have the motor on at the same time.
You cannot
>> the motor would the motors are
>> ebike has pedal assist in definition but
they're not pedaling as the e assist is
moving. I I just think it sounds like
>> you would have to turn off the bike for
that not to happen. When it's turned on,
it does accelerate
our system.
>> So, you can you can disengage it by
turning off the bike, but it's not easy.
I don't think law enforcement
>> that's what I'm asking.
>> Chief,
he does not
feel
I I didn't want to share what I shared
at our last meeting that even though I
know that there's the balance between
way of our younger kids and even our
teenagers, you know, get to places with
the permission of their parents, their
safety overall is number one in my book.
So, I see a real opportunity for us to
um educate and do some awareness train
as part of this. But I say that there's
no other comments to questions. Micky,
do we have a speaker? I think we
>> we do. Mr.
the most patient say.
>> Oh my goodness.
>> Public comments. Please give us your
full legal date and your address. Please
know that you have
>> My name is Thomas McConnell 2722 Road. I
appreciate the time to talk to you guys
today.
I'd like almost daily from Montro's
passing amp to Jeffrey Mansion. So I'm
very well aware of how affects sleep
bikes both the good and the bad. Um
while I do appreciate the intent of this
purchase to uh promote safety I think it
does provide
place burdens on our youngest riders.
Sorry.
>> Um
yeah we ask them to navigate a system
with cars but then head that system
fails to protect them. So my main
concern is infrastructure. We're
creating elaborate rules for the kids
whether they can or cannot ride but we
haven't really created safe spaces for
them. So asking a 12-year-old on scooter
to go on Main Street is not going to end
well and it's terrifying to me. So, um,
secondly, the enforcement approach of
the thought of children getting pulled
over by police cruisers is troubling to
me. And I think Mayor Cast mentioned
last time that you police find
possibility or community officer that
engagement. It's much more
collaborative. It's much more
educational. It's not as terrible when a
middle schooler's been pulled over. Um,
and there it does create some barriers
for families. You do require written
permission. It requires mandatory
training and city inspections to before
can take anybody which shouldn't really
be a simple kind of LSD transportation
choice to a little bit of a bure
bureaucratic obstacle how these things
actually work how process work is even
available so my concern is that many
give up that point so I don't want a
children to happen on bikes bikes um so
she must be about a group of 11 kids in
front of casting yeah watching ebikes e
scooters and at my first stop is like
this is awesome these kids aren't on the
screen they're having fun outside stuff
like
But as they approach Remington, they're
going up here. If they're following
every single law, unless stopping every
single stop sign, all that stuff, how
long will it take for drivers to right
by that's my concern is that we kind of
made all these responsibilities for
them. We're not really kind of real to
be unseen and it's
in drivers, dangerous drivers, and
infrastructure that cannot protect them.
Um, so I guess some possible amendments
or language changes I could recommend
would be around Sidewalk us first of all
allow them on sidewalks at pedestrian
speeds. It kind of gets away with this.
Is a mean bike? Is it not? If they're
going at pedestrian speed kind of solves
that in a lot of ways. I feel like u I
think we should distinguish between and
I kind of heard this back and forth
already between class one, class two and
class 3s. Remember class one are just
pedal assist. They help you climb hills.
Class two has the throttle. I think
that's a key different
difference here because throttle feels
good. You're going fast. you don't think
about what you're doing when you're
pedaling kind of hard for being a bike
for all practical purposes. U
I would like to also clarify three foot
minimum passing law that this applies to
e scooters, ebikes and everything else
out there. Um and personal mobility
devices as well protect their passes.
People not going too close to a device
when they get frustrated. Um and also
make it enforceable. I'm not going to
sit out there with a ruler and try to
measure three feet. Um and there's ways
of actually measuring that or there's a
lot of streets in Beexley that are
either think about described as
substandard for bike sharing especially
if there's a car park there that it
would be mathematically impossible for
to pass a bike without violating that
three-foot rule if they don't completely
take the lane and that's the kind of
behavior of love drivers see is okay I
need to completely take this lane safely
pass this child on it by
I also think we should remove the age
restriction on bikes. I think they're
pedal bikes. Um, these aren't throttles.
It's not a foot. Um, they help on the
hills. They help get to school. They
help you not come to school. It's
completely drench and soaked when you
have 30 pounds in your backpack. Um,
also they eliminate the city
requirements if it passes federal safety
standards. Like, do we really need to do
this as well? It's a bit more redundant
bureaucracy there. Um and
yeah so I guess I prefer to invest in
invest in protecting bike lanes safe
routes to school education programs over
enforcement u and so most most
importantly like ensuring any enforces
or mechanism to focus on the two ton
vehicles and not the 30 pound scooters.
Uh we all know even if a a bike or who
doesn't matter who's right or wrong when
a bike or a scooter hits vehicle the
biker or the scooter
just so I think that's
thank you for your time.
>> Thank you.
>> All right we will move on to our last
three.
>> All right. searating the ordinance 28-25
to provide use areas for 519 South
Drexel Avenue in order to allow for the
use of property as a multif family
dwelling not to exceed three units
introduced by Mr. Marcel.
>> Yes. Uh certainly introducing because of
my position on the council not because
of failing one way or another of this
ordinance. I actually I got asked a
question uh today
clarification. Will this have any impact
on the tax base?
We go one way or another
performance answer that question. I mean
the the tax base we do get bad tax from
bed.
So it's whether the value is greater or
less property tax coupled with tax.
>> Well it also could income tax residence.
>> Exactly. So multi problem. So it's
sounding like it probably would have a
>> I mean if you have three resident
resident units paying income tax it
depends on the household income compared
to so it's like it's you make a lot of
assumptions
and that you know so could we use
assumptions based on averages whatever
models yeah if you don't mind just
before I think it' be helpful to us
I think
this one for a hearing on December 9th.
So at the next meeting table it so that
we can have that hearing. Mr. Fisher,
you had some wise advice for us at our
last meeting about what
they
>> w
as a reminder. I know you guys dry tired
of me saying it, but this is this is a
quasi judicial process and not a
legislative process. So, whatever is the
criteria that's set forth in in our uh
ordinances and I'll send an email out
before the hearing just to remind
everybody. I know we've all been through
it, but not every week or every other
week. um and that it's based on the
facts that are submitted at the hearing
as applied to those criteria. None of
which has more significance than any
other one. So
that's you can blame me if residents
want to talk about it. So
>> any other comments questions on this
one?
We have speaker slips on this.
>> No speaker slips.
>> All right. All right, we'll begin the
first reading of ordinance 29-25 to
appropriate $82,000 from the water fund
into the water administration account to
pay the 2025 third quarter water invoice
from the city of Columbus introduced by
Miss Sad.
>> Thank you, Mr. Official. Um so the
82,000 that we're seeing in front of us
is due to the consumption. Um that
really was um due in part to the amount
of we're kind of assuming that with the
drought, dry weather um people sprinkler
systems maybe uh pools and whatnot is
why we're seeing those increases. We're
not so sure that it's actually
environmental but more that it is
affected by the drought. Just to remind
those on council, we do have to uh we
get our water from the city of Columbus.
So we take on their uh increases. So um
82,000 is uh what we're seeing with our
water fund. Any questions on this?
>> This 80,000 is all money from president.
Correct.
>> Correct.
>> But do you think we might need the
suspension adoption next
>> next? Yes. On this our next ordinance.
We're going to be looking for
the next week.
>> Yes,
>> okay. Okay, we are moving on to the
first reading of ordinance 30-25 to
appropriate $130,000 from the general
fund to the grants and donation account
in order to provide supplemental
appropriation for grants that have been
awarded introduced by M.
>> Thank you, Mr. Fishell. This is all
great stuff. Um, these grants are
awarded a couple examples of them. The
Farah Avenue medium improvements around
50,000 and the pickle ball court lights.
Yay. 75,000
um Clifton Avenue tree plantings 34,000
and new lights for the Vexon community
Christmas tree very exciting 10,000 so
all all good news on these
questions or comments on this
this also um President Ly is looking to
be Senate
which is next Tuesday
>> which is next Tuesday
>> Mr. any speaker slips on this test?
>> No speaker slips.
>> We do not have any table on this. Is
there anyone in attendance at this time
that like to turn to speaker if you have
not already done so?
>> You've already
tell us who our first speaker is.
>> Um, Mr. Par and Mr. Bernz.
>> Sir, are you Mr. Par or Mr.
Mr. Far, I know you were here when I
read my comments earlier on how public
comments work. If you would please give
us your full legal name, your address,
and please know that you have up to five
minutes. Thank you.
>> So, my name is Sebastian
Sher and I'll be the res for 2006. Kind
of been in this problem since we moved
into um the 818 shap
residency for college students. Um,
we managed to see like we we bought the
capital planned to city council. We were
to the point where we need to see
something happened. I mean, as recent as
November 1st, we saw over 200 students
partying in the backyard. I have
pictures. Um, and it's just kind of a
situation where the police can't do much
about it. Capital won't do much about
it. But as a city I think you know
there's a lot of violations happening.
So I think we can address it the
violation aspect where I'm pretty sure
the code says that no properties is
allowed to have you know parties at this
extent of 200 plus people. Um we have
letters from capital university 2008 was
complaining and nothing has been done.
um we've lost revenue or rent property.
The um Catholic students and parents
have come to say no you can't rent this
house it's next to the party house. So
we spent a year without having any
residence which was the first time in 18
years we haven't got a res
um so we're just kind of starting to get
to our end like something needs to
happen something needs to change. I know
I have pictures on my phones for many
years. We're not looking for the college
students to be in trouble necessarily.
Kids will be kids. We're just looking
for maybe the owners of the property to
be held accountable for these parties
for endless years. And I can
um we don't have a budget for so
be.
>> So that's it.
>> All right. Thank you so much for your
comments, mayor. discuss seem to be
administrative. Um so do you want to um
take a moment and think about that or
get your contact information
specifically?
>> Yeah, I'd be happy to to meet with you,
Mr. Vara. Um I feel uh I feel for you
and anyone who deals with the issue. I
uh I can tell you it's the issue that we
deal with not just in the capital
district, but believe it or not, also in
some of our much more affluent areas as
well. Um and Mr. Silverman has been
working on a noise ordinance that I
believe may have a first reading at our
next council meeting. So, um that is in
direct response to the fact that we've
had a very difficult time
>> enforcing large parties like what you're
talking under our so
>> I didn't time your testimony today but
it is it is a good time to be talking
about this because we it's not going
>> yeah we're the students control just
want you know a baseline but so we don't
have 200 people and
to see what's
appreciate your his contact information
on that speaker. So, thank you for
providing your contact MC. Do we have
any other speaker slips?
>> No other speaker slips.
>> Are we okay? We are on to committee
reports. Mr. Martin for safety.
I sent
>> I thought you might enjoy
a lot of you know that Ohio State I I
served as an advisor a mentor to uh
education students. So I worked with
tomorrow's teachers that uh found
an amazing reference or amazing resource
in Steve Shapiro. Most of you know Steve
and so he came to speak to our group
that is
sitting
with no shoes on in the middle of the
classroom. And uh he was he was he was a
big man.
He had students waiting to talk to him
for active class sessions for a long
time. So just to show I think uh
somebody was telling what Steve was
saying how he uses a lot of resources
here and uh certainly he's a fantastic
resource. Just want to share with him.
>> Thank you Troy. Um Mr.
for service and environment.
>> Yeah, I'm not going to follow up as soon
as Steve so no
sign for finance.
>> Thank you, President Landie. Just really
quickly, um Beex Forever is our new
alumni magazine. In fact, did not have
anything like this um until two years
ago. Engaging the alumni. a huge step in
our education foundation's um outreach
and to continue a strong foundation for
students of the future and to provide
future grants. What's even more exciting
is our very own San Marcy
that just went out to alumni and there's
extra coffees here at city hall and
parents alum. So, there's plenty of you
who should have received that as well.
>> But there he is and I look forward to
celebrating him and these four other
amazing individuals um here in a few
weeks. So, congratulations to Sam. Um,
and then just really quickly, I look
forward to seeing my fellow colleagues
tomorrow and back here at city hall for
pre-consel because we do meet again for
the budget and many other things here at
city hall next Tuesday, November 18th.
We will be hearing um from Mike Price
and Andy Behore. It will be our third
reading and you guys have done a great
job everyone department head council
members on the budget. So, let's keep
that going and to report. Thank you,
Miss Mr. Mr. House.
>> Uh, thank you. Uh, we still rescheduled
the um quarterly board of health meeting
canceled some scheduling time.
Um, uh, CIC night yesterday. Uh, a lot
of good updates. Um, just kudos to
Carrie and everyone, the mayor and for
just running a really fiscally
responsible operation. Um, one update I
thought was really pertinent is um,
senior center is back open after a very
successful tank removal and uh, I
believe um, I don't want to take the
mayor's number on this but I believe we
may have temporary senior center for
once the demolition is but I will let
announce that it's appropriate.
>> Thank you Mr. Mel of recreation parks.
>> Um, just real quick uh, we had a meeting
that the uh,
Sorry, had a meeting last week was
pretty robust. We talked about all kinds
of exciting things including um if you
are up and down Clifton, you'll note
that there's some serious movement on
the new parking lot which I think is
going to be really exciting for the
pool. Um kudos to the Halloween
celebrations
and
middle schoolers. That is amazing. It is
really starting a tradition that is
really crazy. That is really true. I
mean, they have a soft I have a soft
spot in my heart for middle schoolers.
It's not middle school and those babies
need a place to to congregate. And um I
think they said 130 people for the
mystery um the next night. So that's
exciting.
>> I was nervous.
>> Yep. They talked a lot about um about
the pool and who is going to
be, you know, managing that. Um, so stay
tuned next week. I'm sure will give us a
lot of information about that and I'm
really looking forward to seeing our
tree lit up in a different way. So be
ready on the
>> always, always, always our our record is
doing great, wonderful.
>> Thank you, Mr. Marcel. How do you
develop?
>> Uh, ARB meeting coming up this Thursday
at 6 PM here.
So, thank you.
>> Right, council. We have one last item.
Uh, I move at this time to go into
executive session pursuant to RC121.22G3
conferences with an attorney for the
public body concerning disputes
involving the public body that are the
subject of pending or imminent court
action and pursuant to RC121.22
22
to consider the purchase of property for
public purposes. A premature disclosure
of information would give an unfair
competitive or argument advantage to a
person whose personal private interest
is adverse to the general public
interest. Please have a second by
Marcelino.
Roll call please. Mr. Mc
>> uh
oh my gosh Mr. Silverman.
>> Yes.
>> I am just facing Yes.
>> Mr. Barcel.
>> Yes.
Please second
all say I
move to second
Okay. I would like to call the November
11th board of control meeting to order.
>> Matt resided
bridge park.
So far away
terrible advertise
>> and we received three bits of
um the FRIDs were low bid of 1.319
millions change high bit of 1.856 56
change. Um
did vary between 352
highend 8800 million
um which tighten the range. We do not
intend to exercise the elephant. The
elephant has to do with
replacing the recommended wood decking
of e with black locust wood which is a
native wood challenge
mechanism
appropriately and we've seen processes
just
so um we are recommening uh contract the
low bid base bid for double
deconstruction at 1.3 million
thanks
process we also check references has
done satisfactory work on similar
projects throughout the region and uh
they are well equipped to successfully
>> that last we
furthermore we
So
>> very
first lots of first
it is within the range that we expected.
We do have adequate appropriation for
this reminder $850,000
minimum actually some of it's also
>> so the rules that we get this multiuse
path and the actual bridge
>> it's connecting to the multi-use path
it's the bridge
uh and restoration of toes multi-use
path the construction bridge
So that's what you're referring to.
>> Yeah.
>> And it's going to be quite
basically build a temporary.
If this were awarded, if awarded uh
construction would begin um
realistically kind of early part of next
year
just
mean it's a local firm. Um
edge say we have an edge requirement.
Yes, it is a 5% edge requirement and
the
it is compliant.
What was our estimate? Sorry,
this one.
I don't think that we advertised it with
required to
tell you it's
okay. So we are not required to have an
engineer.
So stable 10%
why do we need to have estimates in some
cases that's
I can I can get you that answer I was
just I did ask that question
now I can't remember because my mind is
Maybe that is subject to that.
>> I will see.
>> Okay. All right. Motion made second. Any
further discussion?
I'll do voice.
Yes.
Yes. Motion passes. Um
any old business new business?