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no yeah good H there okay now what do I
need to do to get this thing
going press home to
open it's 67 degrees in copertino
get me at least into
Ohio we got the full B tonight JY
Christmas seven mbers I don't remember
last time we had seven people here
okay are you the most important person
needs to be ready over
there
welcome you for got the most
important all right let me call to order
the April 25th 2024
meeting of the Bexley Ohio Board of
zoning and planning and uh Kathy if you
call the role we have a full house here
tonight looks like definitely a quorum
Miss
stor here Mr Turner here Mr Levine here
Mr Marsh here Mr Kingler here Mr shik
here chairman behall I'm here as well
thank you very
much did we get a circulation of the
minutes everybody had a chance to review
them were there two sets I believe yeah
I think there were two sets this time so
that would be theary February and March
meetings did anybody see anything in
either one of those sets of minutes that
needed modification or addition or
deletion
or anything else if not let's take them
one at a time well I think we can take
both of them at a time do we have a
motion to approve the minutes of the
February and March 2024
meetings move thank you Mr
Turner second cling thank you Mr
Clinger all in favor of approving the
motion and the minutes say I please I
all opposed I hear no Nays the motion
passes and the minutes are
approved okay for the record and for the
record I have to abstain on March and
vote on
February and I substain on February but
approve March and for the record I'm
with Mr shik
so we missed March meeting they I'm
getting
dizzy could that be the
case that's fine this is like that bus
stop game my son's Scout Troop I'm like
you know Rick is not next to you know
Richard but is to the left of Heidi he
to
gotcha all right
the there's a chance for the public to
make
comments about the operation and the of
the V zap and its procedure if anybody's
here that would like to do so this is
not a chance to talk about any
particular case but just in general
please raise your hand I see no
indication of such so we'll move on to
the next item which is
old business do we have any old business
Kathy we do not okay anybody on the
board have any old business they would
like to raise I see no indication of
such so we'll move on to new business
which involves the first case of the
evening and that's application number bz
ap-24
D5 involving 2700 East Main Street the
app applicant is Greg margules the owner
is 2700 partnership LLC the applicant is
seeking approval for a certificate of
appropriateness to change the color of
the building would the applicant please
come forward how are you
doing okay thank you sir that was the
one vote I could count on well you never
know how that goes you know that's
true friend's close and your enem is
closer you know yes sir uh sir would you
raise your right hand and state your
name Greg Maris Greg would you would you
swear or affirm that the testimony you
give the board this evening be the truth
the whole truth and nothing but the
truth I do thank you very much Kathy can
we have the staff report on this matter
or is this a year matter too or not it's
both oh it's both okay okay so this
property is located in the Main Street
mixed juice commercial zoning District
the building is two stories with a brick
facade facing Main Street and the side
rear walls are cream colored stucco the
applicant has been before the
architecture review board and received a
positive recommendation for a
certificate of appropriateness for the
color as a consent agenda item Karen can
provide the details of the material
being painted and the color uh due to
the fact that this is in the Main Street
zoning District Board of zoning and
planning makes the final
decision um and I've provided elevations
in the stuff report well that's shown
there so you can see what and I'll let
Karen address the uh color conversations
Ms Boker so this came before
architecture review board just for
feedback and they really just said just
to confirm that um the quote unquote
brick in the front was okay to paint and
I went to visit and explained this to
ARB but that's actually not brick it's
like stucco stucco made it's fake brick
really I didn't know either ARB has no
problem at all with them doing a uniform
color with some you know occasional
details like the building next door they
included um some detail work me with
some lighting to defer me to work with
the applicant and I believe they now
have some samples on the back for me to
we have um paid a little bit of the
colors on building yeah and I'm okay
with that ARB was okay with that but
ultimately it's your your decision to
make okay Mr mules anything you'd like
to add to that you have you guys picked
out a color yeah we have I was going to
try and colorize pi but I'm not that
good on a computer um these are the
colors for what it's worth okay the
lighter color on the stco the darker
color on the fake brick um there's a
little bit I didn't paint too much on
the brick in case you didn't improve
this but it's on the side of the
building and towards the front corner if
you wanted to see it but it looked
really nice I thought it's going to
modernize the look of the
building and uh clean it up well my only
concern was that the awning might
flash I don't think we're going to know
until we do it if it clashes we'll
definitely change the awning but I think
it's not going to be a problem after I
painted the piece on
there okay could could I have the the
specific name for the
color you may have and I may not have
gotten to my email yet
it's called gray
area the two that are checked gray area
and adap shade what what manufacturer is
that you know somebody in Los Angeles
just sits around all day and names these
colors you know good
job and I'm sorry he was the
manufacturer Shan
wayes all right members of the board you
have any questions or
comments is there anybody that is here
for or against this matter like to speak
to the
board I see no indication of such all
right um Kathy can we have findings OFA
conclusions of law please
the findings of fact and decision of the
board for application number bc-
24-5 for property located at 2700 East
Main
Street the board finds that a
certificate of appropriateness should be
granted in accordance with the decision
and record of action from the
architecture review board dated April 11
2024 uh with the color change to gray
area and also adaptive shade which are
Sherwin William
colors okay do we need to put anything
in there about uh Consulting with the
consult final final decisions are
subject further subject to meeting with
the design consultant right does that
also pertain to the awning if they
change that I'm
sorry if they have to change the awning
will they have to come back to
staff if it meets code it's just a staff
review and I'm happy to work with Karen
to make sure that the colors are at
least
coordinated good that are we is that
okay with you yeah much easier for her
to pick it out than us
yeah all right um do I hear a motion to
approve the findings of fact and
conclusions of law please so move
Clinger thank you Mr Kingler second
second shik thank you Mr shik Kathy
please call the
role uh Mr shik yes Mr Kingler yes Mr
Marsh yes Mr
Levine I'm Sorry Miss Turner Mr Turner
Miss Dorne yes chairman behof I vote Yes
the certificate appropriateness is
granted thank you very much good you
luck with it it's a nice nice change for
that building I think I think so thank
you the second case on the docket is
case bz ap-24 d8 involving
271 Brentwood
the applicant is Andrew Rosenthal the
owners are Rick and Marley Snowden the
applicant is uh looking for a
recommendation from the bcap for a
certificate of appropriateness and
variance to allow a driveway expansion
to 20 feet in width on the west side of
the
property Mr Rosenthal you raise your
right hand do you swear or affirm that
any testimony you give the board this
evening be the truth the whole truth and
nothing but the truth yes I do is
anybody else going to testify
I don't think so okay all right thank
you very much Kathy give us a little
background if you would
please so the applicant seeking a
variance from bexi code section 12 62.0
1e an access Drive shall not exceed the
normal width necessary to allow for
convenient movement of traffic and shall
not be used for temporary or permanent
parking in the R1 through R12 zoning
districts ask ACC Drive shall not be
less than 8 ft and no larger than 12.5
ft uh the new house this is the new
house to be located at the southeast
corner of South Roosevelt and Brentwood
the previous house had an attached
garage that faced South towards the rear
of the property and a turnaround drive
that then exited onto the side street
South Rosevelt the previous driveway was
approximately 13 feet in
width the driveway for the new house is
proposed at 20 ft in with to accommodate
the double wide garage facing south
Roosevelt it's more common to have a
request for a wider than normal driveway
for houses with double wide garages that
face side streets or alley due to the
short distance to the street the
proposed driveway is the same width as a
driveway across the street the proposed
changes reduce the amount of asphalt on
the property from 1500 square feet to
500 square feet there's a tree that
would be City tree lost on the west side
of the property to accommodate the new
driveway the tree and public garden
commission has reviewed the landscape
plan for the new house and it was
mentioned that the driveway may affect
the city tree located along the west
side of the property the record of
decision from the tree and public garden
commission included a tradeoff for the
loss of a tree along South Roosevelt in
exchange for two to three trees being
added this would include two tulip
poppers on South Roosevelt and or a
Green Mountain sugar maple along the
Brentwood Road side of the property if
the board is it appropriate to Grant a
variance for the new driveway it should
include the options recommended by the
tree and public garden
commission okay Mr rosenal we get that
right yeah I me the only thing about uh
tree question is even a 12 and a half
foot
wide curb cut would still impact that
tree so that tree whether we do 20 feet
or 12 and a half feet is that's
irrelevant to the fate of the tree in
question so it's going one way or the
other it's going one way and so that is
true yeah so we you know the only thing
I guess I'd add you know we've sort of
surveyed everything from fair to
bride and you can see on this particular
drawing you know that acrosses 20 the
average of I think the 12 or 13
driveways there or however many there
are is 19 feet so it's fairly typical
obviously we're putting a curb cut onto
Brentwood I think we would be quick to
say well 12 and half feet makes sense
because that's the nature of that street
uh Roosevelt because of the speed of
traffic I think for one thing and
because of the as uh as Rose pointed out
because of the uh proximity of the
garage doors to the street yeah to be
able to turn a little quicker in and out
of the flow of traffic I think is one
reason they're wider and because garages
tend to be double door so the average is
19 feet from at least as far as brighten
to u fair is the you know typical
driveway width and so
um our hope the driveway right across
Roosevelt looks like it's also 20 feet
yes yeah
there's some as big as 34 I think
there's one that's in this 12 and a half
foot range but gen and that's generally
true on most of the north south streets
in central Beckley they tend to be
bigger than 12 and a half feet well
Roosevelt's wi is not as great as
brentwood's W with either I don't
think interesting all right members of
the board have any questions or
comments Mr CL just curious is the house
coming down in the new house building
okay yeah yeah no I think it it makes
sense is there anybody in the audience
that is here for or against this matter
please no I see no indication any other
questions for members of the board if
not Kathy can I have findings fact
conclusions of
allw the findings of fact and
conclusions of law for application
number bcap d248 for property located at
2711 Brentwood upon consideration of the
application proposed variance and
evidence and testimony before it the
board finds the applicant has proven the
criteria to Grant an area variance in
beic COD section 12261 c have been met
and a 7.5 foot variance from beic Cod
section 12
621e to allow a 20 foot wide drive on
the West Side exiting onto South
Roosevelt be granted as
submitted and with the conditions as
recommended by the tree and public
garden commission relating to tree
replacement
okay is that acceptable reading of the
request for today yes sir thank you
sir do I hear a motion to approve the
findings of fact and conclusions of law
so moved Clinger thank you Mr
Clinger I Dorne thank you Miss
Dorne Kathy please call the role Miss
Dorne yes Mr Marsh yes yes Mr schik yes
Mr Turner yes Mr Kingler yes Mr Levine
yes and chairman behall I vote Yes also
nice project good luck with it thank you
very
much thank
you all right the next case on the
docket Isa application number BZ ap-24
d10 involving 2829 Columbus the
applicant and the owner is Andrew
frankhouser Mr frankhouser you raise
your right hand please state your name
Andrew frankhouser do you swear or
affirm that the testimony you're about
to give this evening be the truth the
whole truth and nothing but the truth
yes I do thank you very much the
applicant is seeking approval from Bap
for a certificate of appropri for a
variance to allow a 48 in high fence in
a portion of the front
yard okay KY give us a little background
if you would please from the staff
perspective uh Bey code section 12
642c states that decorative landscape
walls and fences which which exceed 24
inches in height above ground ground
level but no more than 42 inches above
ground level may be allowed with a
special permit from the board of zoning
and planning fact that the fact that
this fence is proposed at 48 inches
would require a variance versus special
permit the applicant was wants to
install a fence that is 4 in in height
along the west side of the property in
the space north of the attached garage
to create an enclosed garden bed this
lot is ploted to Columbus as the front
yard the side yard is stwood the fence
would extend North from the corner of
the garage to the first porch column
Beyond where the railing is attached to
the house I sent the original
application for the garden fence to the
architecture review board to get an
opinion related to the location of the
fence in relationship to the covered
front porch code indicates fences within
10 feet of the front facade not
including porches should be landscaped I
required the fence to not be any further
forward than where the front porch
railing attaches to the house but one of
the air beat away in on based on the
fact that there are areas of enclosed
living space to protrude into the front
yard Beyond where the front porch
railing on the west side is attached to
the house the architecture review board
provided determined that it would not
look inappropriate to allow the fence to
be located at the First Column along the
west side of the porch and further
suggested that the garden fence be
painted white not exceed 48 in and also
be landscaped along the exterior side of
the fence the two-story portion of the
house surrounded by the open porch
encroaches into the required front yard
setback and perhaps may be one of the
first homes constructed in this block
and places the fence in the front yard
the 30- foot measurement is where the
railing meets the house the front yard
set back is 30 feet or the average which
is greater which in this case the
average is greater than
30t uh if the board finds it appropriate
to Grant a variance from beic Cod
section 12642 c to allow the location of
the 4- foot fence to be in line with the
First Column staff would recommend that
the fence be installed per the ARB
recommendation and landscaped as
recommended by the city landscape
consultant all
right Mr Frank AER what do you think uh
about her rendition of the facts is she
pretty much get it couldn't have said it
any better myself all right that's what
I like to hear so just from my uh
knowledge it looks like this is the side
of your house to me when I look at this
right yeah yes it is is it because the
front door
faces uh let's see faces Columbus yes
okay so this isn't you don't get to the
front door from this part of the lawn no
that's correct okay is that pine tree
remain no the pine tree and the sweet
gum have been removed oh they already
have been yes
okay is that a tree and garden
commission
issue no okay it's it's private property
that's why I recommended that the
landscape consultant review I see
screening on the exterior side of that
all right is it's not on the property
line they're just boxing in that area of
the yard yeah right yeah I get it J and
or are uh you okay with with
commiserating with the garden tree and
garden consultant yes
okay members of the board any other
questions or comments yeah Cathy are we
given a variance on height or just it's
a six inch variance a special permit is
is required for a 42 inch fence but
because he's going 48 and it is
technically portion of that in the front
yard it would require variance and not a
special permit okay can I ask you why
why you need need the extra height then
um we actually aren't really intending
it to be 48 in high just the posts would
be so there would actually be a step
down so I I guess I was confused on that
part of the uh code for the fences on
the side yards and everything so it's
actually going to be probably 42 inches
to the actual fence then the post would
stick up a little bit higher than the
fence so then that would be a special
permit
okay so the height of the post doesn't
determine the height of the fence it's
the height of the actual fencing correct
correct because we do allow post to
exceed because that's typically a
decorative I would certainly thank that
right uh out and in uh we have two kids
uh Stanwood Stanwood surprisingly busy
and there's cars travel at pretty high
speeds and there's a a stop sign that
seems to be a little bit more of a
suggestion than an actual requirement at
this intersection so we just want to be
able to guard with their kids and not
have to worry about them wandering into
the street or anything so we' ideally
not have a fence and just have the
raised beds but you know want to keep
the kids safe
yeah I see so the picture um if I may no
please the picture we received um you
got you're gonna have the post it'll
have like a top cap on the or something
decorative yeah that's correct we tried
to find the best idea that we could but
yeah that was probably the
confusion I assume we you thought it was
going to be a 48 all the way across yeah
okay Goa I'd rather air on the side no
yeah I understand
okay I like the look I have one in my
backyard
like I don't know whether I asked or not
I I can't remember how old I am even uh
is there anybody in the audience that
wishes to speak Pro or con this matter I
don't see any indication of that all
right I guess the question for me is
what are we going to vote on are we
going to go with 42 and give them a
speci permit or do we want to go 48 and
give them a variance I think that's
where we're coming from here is
everybody more comfortable with a
special permit
yeah I mean as long as yeah that's what
you're agreed to yeah y that's perfect
okay all right I think it would be
preferable from a from a uh perspective
of setting a precedent that we would go
with the special
permit I would
agree all right
any additional comments NOP I don't
think so thanks for ask answering our
questions Kathy would you please give us
findings the fact conclusion of the law
the findings of fact and conclusions of
law for application number bc-
24-10 property located at 2829 Columbus
Avenue upon consideration of the
application proposed variance well
evidence and testimony before it the
board finds the applicant has proven the
criteria to
Grant no have met and that a special
permit in accordance with bexy Cod
section 12640
2C to allow a 42inch fence in the front
yard should be
granted as conditioned by the
architecture review
board regarding the fence color being
white and further the landscape
consultant review the exterior landscape
plan that sound pretty much where we're
headed today yep sounds good to me all
right do I hear a motion to approve the
findings of fact conclusions of law
please no move Clinger thank you Mr cler
second second Turner thank you Mr Turner
Kathy please call the role Mr shik yes
Mr Turner yes Mr Kingler yes Mr Marsh
yes M Dorne yes Mr Levine yes chairman
behal I vote Yes also the special permit
is granted good luck with the project
looks like a nice project thank you B
have a good evening watch those
Critters the fourth case on the docket
and apparently the last case on the
docket of new business is application
number bc-
24-11 involving 543 South Rexel the
applicant is Destiny Ward and the owner
is Gay Street Gay Street
realy or reality as sometimes it's
spelled okay thank
you Miss Ward if You' raise your right
hand state your name Destiny Ward you
swear or affirm any testimony give the
board this evening would be the truth
the whole truth and nothing but the
truth yes thank you very
much Cathy give us the staff perspective
on this matter please
543 South Drexel is located in the Main
Street mixed use commercial zoning
district and is currently occupied by
browtique the owner Destiny Ward would
like to change the use of the current
Salon space the proposed new use Camp
browtique the world of Entrepreneurship
relates to a quazi public use and is
subject to review and approval of a
conditional use by the of zoning and
planning the unit space is 600 square ft
which has an assembly limit as follows
with tables and chairs 43 chairs only 92
standing
129 the applicant has provided program
descriptions which will span over an 8we
period and not necessarily full-time at
the 543 South Drexel space staff would
like to have the applicant discuss the
function of the space and the time frame
in which the business will operate and
how they intend to address pickup drop
drop off and if the board finds it
appropriate to Grant a conditional use
they may require any necessary
conditions to address
concerns
okay
well give us a little background what
are you what are you exactly doing here
so there has been I had to Pivot a
little bit since I've submitted this
because initially I was going so there's
a lot of different levels when you apply
for like day camps and stuff and
initially I was going for an approved
day camp and there was some other
criteria I needed to do so I decided to
go with doing a center because I also
want to carry this out through the
school year to have an after school
program so the day camp is on pause
until next summer and I'm going to move
forward or would like to move forward
with doing an after school program for
young ladies and the program will run
Mondays and Wednesdays from 3:30 to 6:30
and I am considering an option for
Saturdays as well which will only be 3
hours so it'll be no more than 9 hours a
week having this program the purpose of
this program is to Mentor young ladies
put them in front of women and
Leadership I currently serve on a board
for the Bexley Chambers and I work with
a program called women in leadership so
we do this with the young ladies um in
the high school at Bexley and I also
wanted to expand and that service and
also work with youth outside of the
community and bring them to um the
center and also um network with have
them network with other young ladies in
the community as well so I found that
there was a need for something like that
and I'm more so speaking from my own
experience all right
so
um it it kind of give me an idea of how
this would work from a logistical
standpoint other words we're going to
have some parking how many people at a
time yes so I won't have no more than 13
youth um for each session um it will be
a drop off so they'll be able to be
dropped off in front of the building um
maybe across the street if needed and I
can go and get them or behind the
building or on side of the building as
where I'll be able but we prefer to have
them dropped off in front of the
building or in the back of the building
just for safety purposes
um and like I said the program is for
three hours from 3:30 to
6:30
and it will be no more than 12 that time
is the program for the three hours how
how do you what kind of program is they
going to be I know they give us some
broad oh what are they going to be doing
so it'll be different each day so first
and foremost we'll be working with the
youth and like if whatever their career
path is we'll be able to help them them
with that so help them navigate if they
want to be entrepreneurs help them
navigate
entrepreneurship um provide resources so
if the family needs resources um because
I I understand that a lot of Youth um
their communities lack resources so I'll
be able to help them provide them with
resources but the big key of it is the
mentorship so having other women mentor
and Foster these young ladies just from
personal experience growing up it really
helped me with having women that really
cared about me help help me navigate so
that's why I'm able to do what I'm doing
today and I'm noting noticing that a lot
of programs like that don't exist
anymore there used to be after school
programs like at Rec Centers but stuff
like that just
doesn't um exist anymore will help them
with homework if they need help with
homework we will be providing light
snacks so I did um comply with the
health department so I'll be able to um
serve um sh stable snacks for them so
that's pretty much the gy of it and just
provide them with res resources I have a
huge network of people I can connect
them with if they need counseling I'll
be able to connect them with counselors
but this moment is really about the
young ladies I don't know if y'all seen
my current space but it's very beautiful
and it says something about having young
ladies in a beautiful space because
young ladies that are coming from
underserved communities it creates a
mind barrier it's hard to see beyond
your current
circumstances and a place like Bexley
I'm a mother and I'm raising my daughter
here in Bey and I see the difference
having my daughter in this community
versus the community where I grew up at
and it's easy to easier to set them up
to prosper and I would love the
opportunity to expand that to other
ladies outside of the community but also
have them network with young ladies that
live in the community as
well are you still it says in here age 8
to 13 is that the age group you're still
it 18 13 8 to 13 I think you said so
that's going to change so I'm going to
focus more on 12 to 17 like Middle
School age to high school
okay any other questions from members of
the board ID maybe they could have Kate
uh speak you know she was the executive
of meta a couple weeks ago
okay I think she has a couple
years what
exactly it's a conditional use to allow
a quasi
public uh operation at this location um
if it and if it was more of a preschool
type as opposed to what Destiny is
proposing then we'd have to worry about
state regulations with uh play areas and
such so that is not tied into this and
it can function out of the space space
due to the size and she will be held to
the requirements uh for the limit of how
many based on how it's set up on the
interior okay and then is there
um are you GNA be using the Bas space
there no I won't bead and I just use
that for St storage currently
okay yeah egress that might not work for
the basement so yeah
thank you good
question yeah than you you use the term
public how does that differ if at all
from say typical
retailers uh based on its uh an
educational I mean I'm going under my
definitions and I can read that to you
if you'd
like because I mean uh retail that's
specifically called out as a permitted
use so uh quasi public it can be all
kinds of different things let's see
12.7 uh means of place of worship
private and parochial school preschool
through 12 and related
facilities So based on the explanation
of of what's happening there you could
tie conditions to it that might be
concerning to the board or limits
being it's a conditional use not to
Simply a permitted
use yeah and I think the I mean I'm just
kind of thinking out loud but you know
you mentioned in your initial
description about drop off and whatnot I
think with middle school and high school
I would have less concern about that
than if there were little kids um I know
like my daughters have gone to camp at
um
bwell and there's no issues with pickup
for drop off like it was an after school
program or something for an hour and a
half and it really was not a big deal
because the kids are a little bit older
right so I think that wouldn't cause as
much concern about the drop off and
pickup for me at least and it's it's a
little similar to like a kitchen of life
which is located in the plaza just uh
west of the high school mantro school
but they bust the kids over there for
and how how has that worked out okay not
heard any complaints so no news is good
news okay would you anticipate that most
of the participants would walk there
themselves after school or dropped off
by their parents be dropped off by their
parents right now I'm just trying to get
through the application
process because this I've been going
through a lot of training but the goal I
would like to be able to um have
transportation so incorporate um
transportation within my um business
and be able to do some pickups I'll
connect with um Columbus City Schools
and see if they have like some busing
especially if I'm going to be having um
young ladies come from out outside of
the community if they live in the
community then a lot of them will
probably walk to the program but I'm
still
navigating how I'm going get um
individuals to the center that live
outside of the
community how many um youth will be
there at a time 12 no more than 12 well
no more than 13 no more than 13 at a
time you might even reach out to Richard
Sharp he's got the Bexley beat bus I was
the same thing
Kathy okay does he leave outside of the
community oh okay they're smaller buses
so may bus to the one of I don't know if
it's Jewish school or one of the schools
I think they bust to they do everything
yeah my
kids they
did I thought you were in your
30s you look good that's a good thing
thanks Richard's a good
guy okay
I think it's a fantastic idea I I think
anything to promote female leadership is
a good thing and I agree we don't have
enough programs especially after school
for young girls that maybe don't want to
do Sports so I think it's a really good
idea thank
you the companies with a um with a
female executive out outperform the S&P
500 by 20% so companies that have female
Executives outperform the S&P 500 by
20%
interest the onlyis the the only
hesitation that I have not approving
this is just if you B if you bus is
being that close to the intersection of
Maine and Drexel and a bus stop like you
know maybe there's there's a crosswalk
up just north of there to maybe do that
up there and then they could walk okay
to your shop that's that's the only
there's a lot that's really high traffic
area yeah I've been in that building now
for like eight
years um years I've seen like that pal
there's a pal program that does a pickup
a couple door a couple buildings over
yeah so it it always ends up working out
good good you're back access you get
your yes so they can drop off have
cameras um I install my own cameras
around so I can see everything that's
going on I'm just thinking you could
pull into that
Backlot dropped off that will solve
everything if that was like the
designated spot because there's
always um either on side of the building
or like just directly behind like I have
a back ENT so directly behind there
there's they can just pull up right
there they can be able to pull in and
back out with no problem and they can
pull straight through right here right
here now are you going to keep your
other businesses operating there yes um
one of the requests from my landlord is
that um on the eyebrow Salon that that
still be my that that's my primary
um Source use of the business so the
program will only operate two days
during a week and potentially on
Saturdays and I work all the other days
of the week except for Saturday doing
eyebrows I didn't realize you've been
there for eight years congratulations
then I was on I've been all together 11
years in Bexley that's awesome thank you
conrat when we when we did The
Culinary thing did we say something
about Transportation coordinated with
the city or do we need to they they were
using a bus from the school yeah so we
so that was they already had a program
they already had that plan in place if I
recall correctly was they need to get
into a um a lease a parking lot lease
arrangement for their employees that's
what we were concerned with with the
tree of life or kitchen of
life I thought that was I thought that
was the restaurant before we had we got
the they had to get the parking they had
valet parking for the place restaurant I
think all right restaurant all right are
there any conditions that I miss that
you anybody wants me to add or we good
just one question kath is it there's no
problem with running more than one
business from the same address right I I
actually uh called Kenny Brown today and
confirmed he was aware of what her plan
was since I didn't have anything in
writing so he's comfortable with what's
proposed his question is from a zoning
perspective does it does it matter
I I mean they're running on different
days so yeah I don't I think she's
prohibited Jim and the bubble te operate
in the same
building they do well they're separate
spaces though they're separate spaces
and they're operating in independently
on their own days so one requires a
conditional use the other one doesn't so
I I don't I'm not aware of any other uh
violations that would need to be
addressed probably prevented from
running a Tannery there
and the structure of the the layout of
the salon it's it doesn't even look like
a traditional salon so when you walk in
it's just like this open space and it
has like some furniture inside so the
eyebrows and everything I've done done
pretty well with keeping keeping
everything separate so it won't because
with my training I can't be doing
eyebrows and working with the youth so
it will be totally separate from each
other so just from other clients that
I've had an experience are you licensed
by the Ohio State Board of
Cosmetology for the salon portion yes so
do you have to it seems to me like
there's some rules about you you can't
run both businesses out of the same
location do they have to be walled off
for do you have you and I'm not asking
you this question for our purposes but I
think that you ought to at least check
that out to see if there's some
cosmetology rule that you're going to be
uh not in compliance with or how to
avoid not being in compliance or perhaps
the Franklin County Health Department to
verify that there's no violation with
the mix yeah they've already inspected
the place and the health department she
told me exactly because because I work
with chemicals and stuff so right she I
got the building approved um with the
health
department um and she told me what I
need to do to keep everything separate
keep the kids
so I've been in compliance with all of
that do they give you that in writing or
is it a certificate yes we just have you
attach it to the application okay what
your uploaded application online Okay
okay so I I only bring that up because
I've run into that with some clients
where you can't do two things when you
got a cosmetology license and I don't
know what the rule is exactly but I have
a separate room um where I do when I
perform the bulk of my services in uhhuh
it's like I said I got everything
separate and pretty organized cool well
and once again I'm not bringing it up
because I know the rule I just know
there is a rule out there somewhere and
and I don't want you to go through this
whole situation and then have the Board
of Cosmetology come down on you right so
that's all I'm suggesting is that you
look at it because I don't know what the
rule is but I know there are rules is
that the this little wall it says like
knee wall is that what you're separation
yeah so the knee wall is where I perform
a lot of the services at it keeps it
it's it's it's closed and it has a door
and all that stuff periodically I do
come out to the front and do Services
just to get some
sunlight um but yeah behind that wall
okay mean my my only thought is do we
want to put a note in here about the
hours that it's going to be done and
limit it to 13 and then if in the future
it it want you want to expand it that
they would come back in
I I and I don't know if the way it's
written that we I've got those notes
that changes to the original the
Wednesday Mondays and Wednesdays 4:30 to
6:30 and sat 6:30 3:30 to 6:30 right and
Saturdays for three hours and then age
limit is 12 to
17 if she wants to change those hours
she's got to come back to
us if we make it a condition why don't
we put like two days a week instead of
specific days days like two afternoons a
week because like what's let's say if it
ends up being Monday and Thursday or
something prob like Mr Marsh's idea of
just 13 hours
or yeah just make yeah I'm fine fine
hours a week 13 hours or less for a week
if you want to expand it you can come
back to us and ask for more hours that
way you can Wednesday doesn't work you
move to Thursday it's not a problem
thank
you yeah I think whats better than so
are you comfortable with 13 hours though
yes okay
well congratulations on being in
business for eight years 11 11 11 years
yeah 11 years yeah very good well I'm
proud of you nice good to have young
people like you that are thinking about
things like this to help other young
people younger people right so we
appreciate that very much just
for the um for the sake of informing the
board gave a quick review of 4713 the
Ohio Revis code which is prohibited acts
and so long as the uh separate business
is wholly distinct from the operations
of the cosmetology or Salon Services
it's permitted good well I'm glad to
know I was somewhere in the realm there
you know 47
13.14 yeah as it happens when you've
been practicing law for 46 years you
know all kinds of stuff that you don't
really know but you know it's kind of
out there see what you just
read 47 13.14
yes um it has to be uh separation and
Licensing the beauty salon must be
distinctly separated from any other
business operating the same premises
this operation can involve physical
barriers and distinct entrances to
ensure that the operation of the salon
are independent from the other
business see so that's that's what I was
I knew there was some kind of rule out
there like that so you just got to be
aware of it and cognizant of it right so
nobody's gonna do anything about that
except the cosmetology board they're the
only ones that will care about that on
the health department and part she's
already received the but I would
just do periodic inspection yeah I would
just reach out to the cosmetology board
especially Eed email the and email
stands for evidence just be like hey I'm
doing this if they say yes you can go on
and if somebody says no just show them
the email okay
go all right we're trying to help you
because we like what you're doing thank
you um everything that we're if y'all do
decide to approve everything we're
talking about would y'all be able to
give it to me in writing because I have
to put it I have to give it towards my
application to get my approval is that
what you're approval yeah that'll be a
record of decision that I yeah they she
have a record and she'll the staff will
a PDF
all right I'm geeking out because I'm a
small business attorney I think this is
really cool thank
you do we have um findings of f
conclusion of law Kathy on this matter
please
do the findings of act and conclusions
of law for application number bz ap-
24-11 for property located at 543 South
Drexel upon consideration of the
application evidence testimony before it
the board finds the
applicant has proven the criteria to
Grant
a conditional use in accordance with
beex code section
12549 to allow day an after school Camp
related to
entrepreneurship uh that' be granted
with the following conditions that the
applicant upload the Franklin County
Health Department certificate that the
business is limited to ages 12 to 17 the
the business
operates total of 13 hours per week and
that it meet the criteria in orc 471
13.14 cool can you can you change the
hours to no more than 13 hours because
the way that no more the way you WR it
was 13 hours a week it sounded to me
like you have to work 13 okay no more
then got it can you very lawyer like Mr
Turner can you also eliminate the 0.14
because there may also be in the
4713 code there may also be other
Provisions so so high Revis Code
4713 I was thinking maybe just put and
comply with all relevant laws so
regulations yeah instead of calling out
a specific one I just feel like
that it's all just relevant
laws seems a little bit so you're saying
scratch the 4713 and regulations you
need to put regulations in there laws
and regulations
yeah so set up orc 4713 I have changed
number four to comply with all relevant
laws and
regulations it's
better all right does that sound like
we're headed in the right direction yes
all right uh do I hear a motion to
approve the findings of fact conclusions
of law as amended here by the comments
of the board so move shik thank you
there a second please second Turner
Turner thank you sir Kathy please call
the
RO uh Mr Clinger yes Mr Marsh yes Mr
Levine yes M Dorne yes Mr Turner yes Mr
shik yes and chairman beh I vote Yes
also
your special permit or conditional use
is approved and good luck with this
tremendous project we wish you the best
I appreciate it thank you I'll be in
touch okay thank
you do we have any additional new
business Cathy that you know of or
Karen that that I'm aware of all right
any new business for member of the
board then we shall
adjourn oh you know what