testing here I got nothing
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we go
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three bad microphone oh yeah there we go
Natalie with the YouTube on it oh my
gosh
oh yeah there we go
I am getting more and more worried about
these AI technology all the time
[Laughter]
yeah I do hear that voice a lot thank
you hey oh my gosh it's good look at
this oh everybody back here tonight Mr
McPeak we're all back
it's great you know we had a got the
band back you know we had a meeting last
week too yeah I know I'm sorry I was
conflicted I apologize yeah it's uh
we're great to be here it's good to see
everybody I feel like all my kids are
are back home you know now
with you may be more of a older brother
appreciate that father
the other figure maybe one of those
young good-looking grandfathers
something like that yeah stop while
you're ahead
but again I'm excited to be here in
Tuesday nights it's just talking to the
dog if you're not here anyway give us a
roll call would you uh nassad
yes Miss Robinson
Mr or Mr Markham sorry uh Mr Marcelino
Mr Klingler here miss lamke here and
Miss Bible I'm here thank you please
rise for the Pledge of Allegiance I
pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with Liberty
Museum
a lot of great special guests here
tonight
um
we get a lot of uh
dignitaries and officials and athletes
and and all that sort of thing so now my
my time is winding down here and uh I
really wanted to bring into uh city
council some of the people who are
special to me which is especially the uh
the writers in the city and the artists
um and I just
super excited tonight to have Maggie
Smith here with us uh she's got a really
great new book out that everybody
everybody loves I've been hearing a lot
of really really great things about it
um uh when I
told uh Ben about my plan to like have
some writers come in I'd finished
reading this and he was he was reading
it and we both got kind of giggly about
having have it in here uh today so I'm
I'm sorry if we seem a little you know
goofy or whatever we're nervous a little
bit but uh if you would just come up to
the the podium here and I just want to
say like uh what a fantastic uh part of
Bexley you are one of definitely one of
the Treasures of the city here and just
you know super super lucky to have you
and uh I know
Mr Kessler mayor Kessler
if you will yes Mr President you got a
little something to present here and if
Maggie I don't know if you I don't the
microphone has a button there in case
you want to say anything but yes we did
uh so this is I don't know if we're
calling this the Bexley author series we
can call it that because yeah it's it's
this is but Troy and I have a good
picture right over the years who've
somehow started like you know we've been
interviewing authors for Arboretum the
Arbor Day series for a few years so
we've our our literary nerdiness like
comes out but we wanted to thank you for
your service to our community Through
words your words I'm not giving you
words right now well
um with a bottle of our maple syrup and
a little thank you note and uh just
acknowledge everything you have done for
our community
we're so excited
yeah okay let's start and anniversary
edition of our check reports
also a very much yeah
and now you're free to say anything you
want you are under oath
I have to push the button to talk yeah
this is exciting
um thank you for having me I was just
telling uh mayor Kessler that I've been
writing from the front office of my
house here in Bexley for 13 years now
so when I moved here I had a
one-year-old
and two books of poems and now that
one-year-old just started high school
here
last week and I'm about to publish my
seventh book and so I've sat in that
office and written five books
uh while watching my neighbors walk
their dogs by while watching and hoping
that the recycling doesn't happen while
I'm recording a podcast in that room
um while praying that that didn't happen
while I was live streaming The Today
Show interview a couple of years ago
um on a Monday morning and as soon as
they cut me off the giant Rumpke truck
rumbled outside and I felt the universe
smiling down on me and Bexley so thank
you it means a lot to be doing work here
and it's
people ask a lot actually why Ohio in
particular and why Bexley and what is it
about this place that helps me do my
work and I would love to say it's the
landscape although it is very pretty and
the reason I bought my house here is
because of all of the trees
um the Arboretum thing matters to me uh
but really it's about the people
like I live in a place where I know
everyone and if something breaks or goes
wrong I'm a single parent there's always
someone there to bring me something pick
me up I'm always there to pick somebody
else up take them someplace do something
for them and
um so it's really a place where I take
care of myself as a person and then that
feeds the writing so thank you and I
would just point out the book is very uh
it's very intense it's very touching but
it's also kind of a little bit of a love
letter to Bexley as well and it's very
fun to read uh the neighborhood stories
and things like that
actually is kind of a character in this
book like a a benevolent character
and Arboretum gets a mention well you
know we love that you know that's that's
yeah even it's like even it's
superlative like it's initial status is
the first we appreciate that tourism
Board of Bexley appreciates that
I will say
um push the button to talk would make a
great poem title so oh yeah that's good
um you can call us whenever you need
Rumpke to go on pause if you're on
national television and we will help
facilitate that
um so I just wanted to offer those two
things perfect and then you're not
allowed to sit down to get a picture
together if that's all right yeah yeah
that's
I've been known to ask my neighbor to
stop running her chainsaw and leaf
blower while I'm trying to record things
in my house that thought that Rumpke was
plausible in fact we have leaf blower
noise ordinance discussion oh it's the
devil's tool
s
he's a better camera yeah
thank you thank you
and so appreciated
next up we've got some good interns
hanging out here you wanna I do uh
president Markham we have been honored
to have actually we had five interns
this summer with the city of Bexley two
of them to Police Department Mary Kate
and Cameron uh both had to go back to
school already
um but those who hung out to say how we
dragged back from school to uh come
forward and I just wanted to talk a
little bit about what they did so we're
gonna start with Ashley who was our
sustainability intern and I've just
asked them to share like 30 seconds
worth of like what did what did I get up
to this summer as an intern so Ashley is
a student Capital uh and is also due to
be confirmed as a nominee to the esec uh
Board of officers she's been very
accurately
let go of it
okay yeah
um I had a really great time this summer
I was assistant to Elizabeth ellman your
sustainability coordinator I learned a
lot of really great things on the job
helped out with your climate action plan
and um
some of the sunroof projects and solar
and just really helping Bexley become a
more sustainable community and engaging
with capital as a large part of the
community it was a really great
experience you do a lot of greenhouse
gas benchmarking work too right I heard
a lot of data going back and forth yeah
yeah I helped with your greenhouse gas
emissions as well and just uh collecting
that data and working with the company
who collects it
so you might see Ashley around as a cap
student and continue obviously as an
USAC member and while she's here because
she is proffered as a member for the
esac I would offer you any opportunities
to ask for any hard-hitting questions
about her vision for esac
here we go Miss sod Ashley thank you for
your service
um so what did you what was your
um you know biggest motivator to want to
do this for the city and then what did
you walk away from um feeling like the
most accomplished in the role from the
summer
um
well I started at Capital three years
ago and I'm the sustainability
coordinator for Capital and I noticed
that there was um some distance between
capital and the city and the
sustainability department and when
that's a really
um vital place to have
um a bridge between us and I started
working with the eastac and Elizabeth
and I just really fell in love with city
government and sustainability there and
I decided to ask for an internship
that relationship yeah
yes
thank you
any other questions Ms fiebel thank you
I've had the joy to be with Ashley and
and meetings um with esek and and
um really out in the field doing her
thing for the city and um if you noticed
that smile on her face it never stops
she
she does everything and volunteers to do
so much and always and and that kind of
an attitude and that there's not enough
people like that in the world so keep it
up Ashley you're going to go great
places thank you Lori
all right all right thank you and thank
you for your service for us thank you
foreign
I have something very small for you guys
whenever this is whenever we're done
here Madison
uh was our
wait you can't you can't just say
something very small well you have to
now you're all wondering what it is
official city of Bexley Payne oh well
that's nice
Madison helped out at doing our front
desk operations and
um
one thing I will say you were so
appreciated at City Hall one of the
things that Madison I think like I am
I'm just still dumbfounded is how like
how much grit you have like you are so
good at just bearing into a project and
just like getting it done and just oh
who do I need to call oh I'm gonna call
a person I'll call the next person like
you have just such fantastic
problem-solving skills and that was
really appreciated here at City Hall
this summer
you hit it again it goes green and then
you're good to go okay oh there it is so
I was basically a front desk intern I
answered calls and directed them to
whoever it was needed to I mail merge
which is like when you block off a
street or have a block party you need to
get all those addresses onto envelopes I
created a new Organization for like the
front closet
I also gathered materials to digitize
the file system and got quotes to get a
new printer as well I made recyclable
bags out of newspaper for the farmer's
market and then overall just help any
employee that needed anything
and I will I'm going to add something
because you're kind of being modest
which is like so she was tasked with
digitizing our entire file stack of
building department files and this was
like day one by day two like maybe even
still day one Madison's like floating
proposals by my desk from like vendors
and pretty soon we have like five or six
quotes and I'm like do you even know all
the stuff you need to do yet to get the
quotes that Madison was just on it The
copier broke one day Madison's like well
I called around and I got like multiple
quotes for a new contract nice cool so
that that sort of go-getteriness just
like getting things done will take you
very far in life thank you for sharing
that with us
any uh any questions here yeah yeah Jess
you got some questions Madison was there
anything that you learned that was
special about your city that you didn't
already know
just like basically answering all the
calls you figure out how the City Works
like where to call if your trash doesn't
get picked up or like how to get a block
permit or anything like anything
building department honestly I answered
those as well and just knowing how to
like deal with the citizens and just
good like customer service I would say
for sure it's awesome
Monique she's uh she's under oath right
now if you want to answer any questions
it's not every day a council member gets
to address a city intern
um for those of you who may not have
known I used to be a law school
Professor a while ago and there's a
saying in Academia that if I hear it I
forget it
if I see it I remember it but if I do it
I understand it and I think that for
Madison all the other interns having the
hands-on experience in a city the size
of Bexley really does bring that
business experience to a whole new level
so I'm proud of you
thank you everyone
thank you
yeah we're gonna do picks in just one
second
whatever you want one second we'll do
pictures a second Nick
uh Nick approached us in the spring I
think having been an Avid Reader of the
Bexley blast
true story started hearing you started
hearing about this year of the parks
project
and Nick did a really cool program with
the city of Athens in his first year
last year at OU
um with the park project on a structured
parking structure and he came and he
said here's what I did with Athens I
would love to be involved here the parks
and it's kind of a fantastic internship
pitch and one of the things we we are
fairly I think I've said this report to
you guys we're kind of opportunistic
with interns we don't say this is
exactly what we want we want interns who
have passion who are self self drivers
self-starters and have a vision of what
they want to do and then we figure out
can we plug them into what we're doing
in an effective way and if so uh great
and that's exactly what Nick did so we
appreciate you approaching us with this
idea and why don't you talk a little bit
about what you ended up doing this
summer
oh there you go I'd like to start by
thanking everyone here over the summer
over the past three months I served just
yellow Park's intern I had the privilege
of attending community events uh
representing the year of the parks and
helping the city create year of the
parks related Communications whether
that was the newsletter or various uh
papers that went out to Residence uh I
tried my best to help out with that
you know I just had a really good idea
yeah voice activated microphones we're
just leaving on we're good all right
yeah project season coming up it's some
good Tech we should talk to the Sony
about that
um Nick also being very modest I think
one of the first projects we threw your
way was a our newsletter which was late
in getting put out and so I think it
started off as maybe is it an ant we had
started with an annual report we kind of
retooled it and at the end of the day
Nick helped he former torch torch editor
yes ended up helping us produce our
longest ever staggering 28-page long
newsletter which never will happen again
so that was a that's a world record that
we're done setting uh but Nick you
really dove into that and you just like
churn churn churn until we got that
thing out so thank you for your help
with that and in general Nick was a
smiling face at community events helping
to promote you're the parks hoping to
get the word out helping us to organize
that entire initiative throughout the
summer so thank you for everything you
did it brought a lot of energy to it
really appreciate it yep
questions yes
yeah you can ask anything
to be working on stuff just be able to
share that kind of connectedness with
your kid about the work that you do
outside of the work that you do was
really nice and I'm super proud of you
for taking the initiative I did not know
he was going to apply for the situation
okay after the fact so
um I'm just really proud of you and
that's why they do have this opportunity
and that we had an opportunity to do it
together
it's great
other questions
if not then thank you thank you
and now you're getting something very
small I understand yes
let's get an intern class photo here
yeah
I expect sleeping thank you we also had
an internship today if you launched in
case you guys thank you
I know
got a couple council members one in on
this photo too
hold on hold on hold on a couple council
members coming in
traditionally the finance chair and
strategic chair take photos with the
interns
oh look at that good looking group so
cute
all right I think we are moving on to uh
part five of the agenda right now thank
you to all our guests for coming in
tonight appreciate thank you so much for
joining us
and I think this goes to you Mr
professional all right so this is
reading number
I'm oh never mind sorry I'm sorry yes
please I'm incorrect excuse me sorry
decorating a resolution 5-23 confirming
the mayor's appointments to the
Architectural Review Board the board of
zoning appeals and planning the
Recreation and Parks Board and the
environmental sustainability advisory
committee introduced by Ms Robinson
so we probably already we already asked
her questions I was going to say we lost
for Ashley
for the various boards that they're
going to serve on and I believe that we
have a Matt eschel burner here today
let's step on up and hit the button just
once
everybody's intimidated now
welcome thank you so you will
um you are committed for the for visa
and why in the world would you want to
be
um I've been chatting with Ben for a few
years about a great way to get involved
and this was an opportunity that popped
up and something that I feel passionate
about before I moved to Bexley from
about 2009 to 2015 I lived in German
Village and was very involved in the
German Village Society shared the
long-range planning committee there and
since moving to Bexley I live over on
Drexel in central Bexley and there has
been a lot of work on Drexel I've had a
lot of work to some of our neighbors and
their houses so this was something that
I've put a lot of time into from afar
and excited to get involved with a
little bit more
anybody else any questions
oh yeah it's Miss sod please you can't
not say something about Matt sharpener
um so Matt and I share children the same
ages we both have a daughter in seventh
grade and we have um sons in fourth
grade so I've seen Matt um you know
every day at pick up and drop off and he
is always out there volunteering in any
which way he can and so we are very
lucky to have Matt as a member of our
Beez app I know that you're going to do
all the hard work and we appreciate your
service and the time that you do not
have that you're going to give give back
to all of us so thank you so much for
your service I'm really excited to see
you get involved um in this way in this
capacity so thank you thank you I
appreciate that
one thing that stood out to me about
Matt and you you I think it initially
expressed interest a little bit ago for
uh various positions and I said you know
hold on we're going to find something
for you uh is that like as you mentioned
I think you have a pretty deep rooted
history of of community organizing
planning within your time at German
Village I also have known you as a
parent a casting hand but doing a little
digging on you you can you can internet
sleuth Matt Ashley Brenner and find out
about his past Community organization
efforts
um but I think just so you have just a
real history of like of conscientious
care for community and planning
um I think that uh that is exactly what
we need to be members as planners people
who have the big picture and are looking
out for the community also you live on
Drexel Avenue and you back on to
projects on Columbia and you kept your
cool through all of it so that tells me
that you are you have the Keel the even
Keel uh that can handle Visa membership
so thank you again for being willing to
serve appreciate it absolutely
thanks Matt all right thank you very
much everybody
this is a uh second reading on
resolution 5-23 so we will invite
comments from the audience if there are
any out there
really oh
yeah well it's you know what it was a
long break for me never mind
you're right about that okay we are on
the second reading of ordinance 28-23 to
amend chapter 1456 0.01 registration
required and to provide standards of
care for the areas surrounding trees in
the tree lawn introduced by Ms feibel
and I do want to say that Jim Wilson
gets to choose somebody to have his
picture taken with
oh he has his favorites yeah
I was going to say I've been before you
before and no one has ever taken their
picture with me so
um just wait it'll happen Jim it's gonna
happen as long as it's not with Chief
Lewis it's fine so
um I think you all know I'm Jim Wilson I
appreciate your having me
um I guess I'm used to the old days I'm
a resident at 2404 Bexley Park Road I've
been a member of the tree commission
since 2012 and I'm here to speak on
their behalf in support of the ordinance
that council member fiebel has proposed
uh I will start by saying the term mulch
volcano when you first hear it may seem
sort of like how could that be a problem
it sounds like something you might play
with with your kids but what a mulch
volcano is is when mulch is stacked too
high around the trunk of a tree we've
already heard from I guess our City's
Poet Laureate The Importance of Being an
arboretum most volcanoes we've seen a
rise of them and amongst Retreat
commission members in recent years and
they're a problem for a variety of
reasons I hesitate to list the reasons
with specificity given that the chair of
council knows way more about plant
biology than I do but
um I will say that um the first problem
is that they hold moisture around the
tree to the trunk and the roots of the
tree which leads to fungal disease which
can kill a tree or cause it significant
harm they heart it Harbors insects and
even at times small rodents that can
damage the tree bark uh it encourages
the the roots to grow laterally into the
mulch causing
um the the roots to girdle the trunk
um rather than spread out to create a
healthy root system and then last Roots
respire they exchange gases
um I'm getting nervous now because
Council president's laughing no I'm
laughing at the Grim Mulcher the
graphics up there
um that that respiration only occurs
down to 18 inches and so all of the
space that the mulch takes up prevents
the the lower levels of the roots from
properly
respiring so why now
um I think all of you heard um the mayor
uh in the state of the city speech say
that the the tree commission's busy
working on a three-year plan to infill
all of our gaps in the tree lawn
um uh so that we can maximize our canopy
here
um this is the right time to do it
before we expend that money both the
city and the Community Foundation spend
that money to plant those trees
secondly as members of the tree
commission we're seeing more and more of
this happen and that's not common or
that is common in other communities
because most people don't think a lot
about it they see someone else mulching
that way and so what they assume is
that's the right way to mulch so it's a
fairly common phenomenon when a few
people start to create these everyone
assumes it's the right thing to do
and then lastly all of you have seen
what the storms this summer have done in
Bexley anything that weakens our trees
puts them at risk and frankly increases
the maintenance costs that the service
department I think has spent a lot of
time on this summer with so anything
that protects our trees strengthens them
we think this is the right thing to do
so I know that you've all read the
ordinance but very briefly we think that
the first provision which we thank the
mayor for which creates a registration
system for certain landscapers that are
doing work in the right-of-way is useful
because it gives us the opportunity to
identify who's doing work in the city
and to educate them about the proper
process in terms of mulching a tree we
don't think most landscapers want to do
it wrong but we do see a lot of them
doing it wrong and prevention is way
better than enforcement in our view
um you know
secondly the the provision that adds
this to our existing ordinances puts it
in our view in the right place the
existing ordinances about the protection
of our trees on the tree Lawns and to be
clear we're just talking about tree
Lawns we're not talking about people's
private property the tree commission is
engaged in education efforts so that
hopefully people learn about this for
their own trees but for the city trees
this applies in the tree line and It
just fits in with other places where we
talk about damage to our city trees
lastly I know that the that we've had
some conversations with the mayor about
the enforcement Provisions the the
original draft of this simply has the
existing provisions of uh 10 26.99 uh
apply in the event of a violation I
think the mayor suggested maybe a step
down initial uh punishment or fine here
would be appropriate we're completely
supportive of that we don't our intent
is frankly not to punish Bexley citizens
it's to educate them and so
um we commend this and I'm more than
happy to answer any questions that you
have
thank you Jim thanks for coming and
showing uh talking about this to us and
also the great uh visuals which I think
help us out a lot too I you know I spent
a few years on the tree and garden
commission and I know lorianne's been
there the last few years and so we've
heard you know we've seen instances and
we've heard this I know you touched on
it but can you kind of maybe elaborate a
little bit on how how frequently you
know do you do you get do you see this
do you you have problems do we see it in
the city with you know the over mulching
of these trees
pretty often
um we haven't Quantified the amount I
will tell you this spring
those of you that know me know that I'm
a regular Walker and I on my Monday
Wednesday Friday walk I saw at least
four or five trees this spring that were
had mulch volcanoes on my other day
walks probably a dozen trees that were
over mulched so you know I think it's
becoming common I think it's just as I
said earlier once a few people start to
do it people start to think it's the
right way to mulch yeah for sure miss
sun do we have any um estimate on cost
savings because when you're talking
about less mulch being used and trees
not having to um as much repair or to
you know put a nutrient any idea on cost
savings with passing this I could give
you a better idea when we start to
budget for you know the threes that
we're we're planting it's hard to
because there are so many different
consequences I think we lose some trees
early on which creates the replacement
costs of free in America probably say
better than I can what the replacement
cost of a tree is it depends to some
extent on what species you're talking
about what's really hard to measure is
what in terms of what the service
department has to do as a result of
weakening our trees in this way what's a
result of climate change what's the
result of all the other factors that
make it harder and harder to you know
sustain our Arboretum
so sorry I can't give you a number but
I'll be happy to go home and work on one
other questions
yeah I'm sorry Ms lanky I I wasn't here
last week so I apologize if this was
addressed but I think we saw some photos
of what not to do is there a photo of a
properly mulched tree like the the one
that we should strive for yeah
so
there we go there it is
so if you see those those trees
it's the cutting the mulch of outside of
the trips on the trees is
at all we talked a little bit and
figured our ingredients
informational literature that shows
recommended mulch
application as well as not just to your
point don't do it but also how would you
properly yeah my thought might be if if
this passes and the city starts doing
this properly I think residents will
notice and maybe they too would want to
hopefully it follows yeah I think one of
the challenges the reason is this is now
an ordinance is we have multiple times
met with contractors that do this
educated them asked them not to do it it
keeps on happening and so we've tried
the educational informational piece of
it we put it out in the blast I mean we
talk about it but it doesn't and it most
egregiously is occurring with
contractors specifically
um where they're just coming in and just
like blowing through the property
getting it mulched quickly and that you
know that thought that like more equals
better the client will be happy with
that seems to be kind of where we most
see this happening okay thank you
yes Miss Bible
um and and true Bexley style we have we
have a volunteer who is striving to
become a eagle scout
who is taking this on as a project to
create a pamphlet and to take it
door-to-door to everyone in the city
which is
I think we talk often about education
education we've also talked about having
to hear it more than one time so you
know hopefully you know not only it's
will it be in the blast not only
hopefully will it pass as a law but
hopefully also this uh this person will
get his wonderful his or her we'd I
don't know other but um they're uh he's
all Scout badge which is really exciting
yeah if any other Eagle Scouts are
listening the tree commission will
always take their help
do you want Mr President Madam Bible do
you want to discuss the proposed
amendments a little bit more in depth I
was just going to ask you about those
proposed amendments about I don't Jim if
unless you have something to say about
mosquitoes I think
we're good with you unless anybody has
any more I'm sorry I should say that
President no that's okay I I had a
question and I'm trying to try to
remember
um
so this uh this applies only to City
trees trees in the right-of-way only
trees in the right of way and so we
really have specifically
yeah right away
so I mean
those trees are usually I mean those are
maintained by the city anyway right
those are are they mulched by city
workers regularly or that's just okay so
any mulch would be put on by the
property owner okay I say no there are
instances of where we mulch
trees a good example is along
Commonwealth Park you'll see uh
treatment on trees that are mulched okay
um and in those instances you'll notice
that we go quite far off from the root
Zone and go from between the sidewalk
and the curb okay
um but that's pretty expensive so it's
not something that we do everywhere
right
um so sort of answer is no uh property
owners are in charge of managing the
lawn area of the tree lawn and so they
also have the ability to put mulch
around trees and flowers around trees
sure I remember that yeah uh which we
probably have some amendments to that
one coming too down the pike a little
bit later uh based on some conversations
and tree commission but
um when it comes to actual trees
themselves that is the city maintaining
trees living up pruning removal planting
are there any aspects of the tree health
of trees and the right of way that
owners are responsible for
it's do no Do no harm it's sort of yeah
which makes sense I mean we wouldn't
want them to
you know the ardinance clearly existing
you wouldn't want them to do anything
harmful to the trees in the right-of-way
that's just sort of maybe further Define
some of that those harmful practices
that you might do correct and actually
if we're sending out a brochure we
should probably also highlight the weed
eating around tree trunks because that
also creates a lot of issues
yeah weed whacker is not necessarily a
tree trunks friend
um new plants um we I mean the city
tries to get out and water them but it's
really helpful if Property Owners can
water a new tree that's been planted in
their tree lawn
and we have a little door tag that gives
them some of those suggested things that
they can do to help out
other questions yes Mr Marcelino
uh
a collection of green recommendations
going out in handbook forms similar to a
Bexley Rec type magazine of
recommendations to Residents with some
of our ideas because I mean I've heard
several things since I've been on
concert but I had no idea about that I
am happy to try to work into my life uh
day to day but I wouldn't even thought
about this and if we sent out maybe an
annual one or had a guy for people that
moved into saying hey these are just
recommendations to help keep Bexley
Greener things like the tree volcano
because I didn't know that existed until
uh two weeks ago so
um but now I know not to put it there
um
and I just think it might be helpful as
we go because a lot of ideas come and
frankly not everybody reads the blast in
detail although they maybe check it out
and so maybe an annual one that goes out
could be beneficial with tips and tricks
to help keep that sleep green
so we that's great we have a new welcome
new Resident welcome packet that we hand
out that that could go in but I think
you've sparked an idea in saying that
like a resident manual a handbook a
Guide tips ownership guide
because we can't I don't say I don't
think it's very important I think that
uh you know if you could put it almost
like a recommendation and requirements
and just making sure that people are
aware uh you can cite to the ordinances
so they can read up on it a little more
just so uh we keep things in mind sorry
for my thinking out loud here but I
think your thinking it's aligned with
that of the tree Commission in a big
debate internally is should it be a a
paper copy kind of document or should it
be something on the website that we
point people to that we can then
regularly update because we we
constantly learn sort of new things that
can make the city's streetscapes better
there's a counter-intuitive too and send
out a bunch of paper to people
uh deliverance and then we can put that
PDF onto the website and updated
something along those yeah I think
people consume information differently
and we have found that putting things in
print really gets to people differently
it's good idea
get to staple it to the trees and
further yeah
any other questions if not we you may
sit back down thank you very much Mr
Wilson we'll talk about these amendments
is that right do you want me to stay for
that discussion
no that's up to you I mean
well I don't think I would do whatever
the president of council directs me to
do it's required but I appreciate that I
just want to escape before my pictures
taken with him oh you can't complain
about it and ask for it so
if if uh if I may walk through some
proposed amendments these are not really
necessarily an order they're kind of an
order they were discussed the first one
is a wilsonian Amendment
um and that is the question was what's
the violation and then as we looked that
up there absolutely was a violation but
it was a criminal penalty
and
Mark and I through email we're starting
to have this conversation about in
general criminal penalties are very
difficult to enforce against contractors
um you know if you think about like a
company has come out and doing something
that's not an individual uh so also
there's an opportunity for education and
also this is a little bit unique because
it's actually our property being
impacted at City tree it's not like
something happening on private property
so we came up with a model where uh
initial violations by a property owner
would get cured with information given
to the property owner not to do that
anymore please uh subsequent violation
would
have a fine to the property owner and
get cured by the city
and then after that you go down to item
four
it would trigger the penalt to the
criminal penalty so you've you've been
warned it's been cured you've been asked
again been fined and then then that when
I become criminal uh and then the track
would be different if it's through a
Commercial contractor a tree-long
landscape professional would immediately
get a fine because they've already been
educated about this as a registered
Treeline landscape professional uh
initially but then subsequent violations
on the same property uh would trigger
the option for uh criminal citation when
I say criminal that's any code
enforcement citation is technically a
criminal citation so it would trigger
essentially a code enforcement citation
um
we think about it I think we still need
to
um amend or modify B2 because it says in
the case of a subsequent violation or
failure to in case of a subsequent
violation committed by the same property
owner at the same property or a failure
to cure after provided notice under B1
because we don't want them to say hey
that's the same violation it seems silly
but so and maybe B1 was not worded
clearly enough our anticipation is we're
not asking them to get rid of the
volcano we're doing it ourselves
so it's like um you're right just like
we've seen it you know it's our tree
we're gonna remove it so that we're not
waiting around right and then you know
ask people not to do anything no you're
right it's fine then
I feel like it'll be highly unlikely
that we would have a situation where
property owner does that more than once
but you know I think it's it's kind of a
friendly way to handle this I think
um
the other change is the definition was
amended
so if you really want to get deep on the
definition of what a mulch volcano is
you can read that but that was
workshopped with the tree commission as
a change to before and then there's a
another like curveball change so just
to let you know one of our initial
things we were talking about with this
ordinance was to also include mosquito
control registration
um and so that was added to this
proposed amended where we Define a
mosquito control contractor
and then we ask them
we create a section of code that
requires advanced notice to adjacent
Property Owners before Airborne
treatment of mosquitoes
um it's still not as you can see there's
a
uh unfinished section on penalty because
I
think we need to talk about that some
more but uh and also how much Advanced
notices
is adequate and or feasible practical
practicable and how that's done so
that's included as a concept does not
Outlaw or in any way say you can't treat
for mosquitoes it just says that if
you're doing it you give your neighbors
advanced notice of it and we've had that
request many times from um you know with
beekeepers who live in the city we have
folks who have pollinator friendly
Gardens in general are just concerned
about it and have been really alarmed
when
the neighbor hasn't told them and
mosquito control shows up Authority like
a private company of some type shows up
treats and they haven't had a chance to
cover the hives or they can color they
can cover their pollinators with like
sheets to to protect them as well
let me beekeepers do we have I don't
know more than one
Matt
administratively who's enforcing this
the mosquito control treatment would be
well the whole okay and the tree mulch
volcanoes it would be enforced by
the monster volcano would probably be a
combination right-of-way coordinator and
the tree crew lands the tree crew and
then they would refer it to code
enforcement if it went beyond what they
could do
mosquito control treatment would be
probably based upon complaints that we
received and it would be a it would be
through the building department slash
code enforcement
it's under the section 1494 falls under
the housing code which seems to make
sense that's with like vegetations and
other things but we can talk about it
some more this is just a first dially
um
there yesterday that
um
highly highly urgent yeah
and I do know that I
of
um so that's what my question
um
because I don't want to so
apology
thank you
careful
right
um the organization sending out where
the company is sending out letters to
our neighbors
um perhaps at the beginning of the
season
stating these are the days that you know
we will be at the fibles so some of
those were some of the ideas I was very
concerned about my small company
surviving and having to
you know make that all happen
so but I think there's ways around it to
make it easy for them
when the uh
when the mosquito companies come out you
know they I think we know that they've
been there because they put a little
thing in the yard is that required by
law or is that just a courtesy
advertising thing that they do do you
know I don't know I mean I'd be curious
to see because otherwise I'm not sure
you would know necessarily if your
neighbor treated right unless you were
you saw them come out I suppose yeah I
actually frankly haven't maybe I don't
walk out enough but I haven't seen the
mosquito control tags but I get one on
the door yeah I just know I just wonder
if they're out the door if they're
required or is that just like you know I
I see them they put them out and I'm
just I never really know if I think
that's well I'm sorry yeah I think
there's probably more like the
advertisement I see the treatment of the
lawn
for dogs and things I've never seen a
mosquito one but I don't know oh now
I've seen mosquito ones yeah Monique go
ahead
um I had a few questions do these two
parts have to go together in the same
ordinance
they don't it's just that it hits upon
the concept of registration so they
could be severed it could have a
separate ordinance that just talks about
this it's no problem we had
it had the combination of come England
had been the discussion had happened in
the past but just hadn't gotten it on
the draft before okay my my second
question was
um it says in
as well as any additional information
deemed relevant by the contractor
what's what would that
uh include so that's very loose language
obviously they have to deem it relevant
but it might be like uh you know the
wind direction was South Southwest of
five knots and uh humid relative
humidity was I don't know what they
would have said but if there's something
else that they felt was helpful they
could include that maybe that's
Superfluous language okay and then gives
them the option to give more information
if they want
yeah yeah then my last question was can
you expand a little bit more on the
rationale for
for this you said you've had a lot of
um yeah less from residents we've had
we've had a fair number of complaints
and I think you've heard some of them
here before when residents have talked
about
mosquito treatment and not being aware
um not just for the municipal program
but specifically backyard private
mosquito control treatment which is
actually far more invasive than our city
spray because our city spray goes along
the street it only goes like it only
permeates like 50 feet into the yard
whereas a backyard treatment is going on
around a whole peripheral periphery of a
backyard and can carry over very easily
to adjacent properties
so the
very understandably people who care
about this are upset because their
neighbor is treating
and it's not like that pesticide
application stops at the property line
it extends 50 feet every way so it's
it's absolutely impacting adjacent
backyards right now there is no
apparatus to ensure that somebody who
cares about that has you know might be
sensitive to their pets being exposed
their children being exposed they're
um their pollinators being exposed has
no no heads up so it's kind of just like
a it's a courtesy that makes sense
and we're talking about professional
treatment homeowners aren't you know
don't have the tools or the licenses to
do this so the idea is that we're laying
on top of a Commercial contractor
professionally treating asking them to
provide notification
um and providing protection then for
those adjacent residences that are
impacted by it okay thank you
Sam
thank you very much Miss Lampe for
asking that first question because
that's exactly where I was going with
this as I look at this ordinance I think
that I ultimately need them to be
separated for me to consider uh the
section four there as you look at a
section uh four which to me seems to do
with somebody's personal uh property and
I think there needs to be an individual
discussion in their personal right
frankly whereas section whereas the
first portion of ordinance 2823 has to
do with the city's property
um and so I think that for me to frankly
consider the whole thing I I have a
tough time doing so well I understand in
terms of regulating landscapers and
people that come into our city to work
uh I just I don't think that these two
portions go together and that's not to
even speak to the validity or necessity
or my interest in section for I just
don't think that those two things go
together for that very reason
yes Assad
um so going back to like transparency
and awareness so if we passed this with
the mosquito portion people would know I
don't have experience with a mosquito
contractor or how many of them are out
there
if there's 20 if there's a hundred how
would we provide the education to those
contractors that Bexley passed this
or other municipalities doing this is
something that they're becoming more
aware of
yeah so there are
there are other municipalities in the
country that restrict or prohibit this
I couldn't find specifically a
notification ordinance because again
this isn't restricting anyone's rights
it's just asking that adjacent Property
Owners find out about it
um it's the way that we would educate is
we would go to the
you know we would go to search engine
and find out who's doing this and make
sure that we're contacting those
contractors and making sure they know
they need to get registered
um
there should be you know by the time
that this would If This Were Pat even
like I understand the concept of
splitting them so if it's split by the
time it's passed we're sort of out of
the season so it's a good opportunity
for us to reach out to contractors
educate them before the new season
occurs and they have the opportunity to
get registered and then
follow the law
are there are you do you know are there
a lot of mosquito contractors are we are
a few three I have I'm aware of a few a
three or four and I you lauriana to talk
to you I know of two you had discussed
um reaching out to some of your contacts
and just getting feedback so we'd be
interested in feedback on it and then
who would
um this passes and we need to make sure
that the contractors have the
information who would be responsible it
would be the responsible party for
sharing that information so our building
our building department which is why
initially in my head this is co-joined
because it touches on 1456.01
um
building department handles and
administers the licensing of contractors
it's the mechanism by which we can
effectively and sort of reliably
communicate with contractors to make
sure that they understand the laws make
sure that they follow them and that
registration is required to do business
in the city
um something we do with basically
anything that touches on life safety
issues so any anytime you're
you're working in construction on a
property where you're potentially
jeopardizing somebody's life and safety
we require registration of those
contractors this just adds them to that
that category
yes Mr Klingler so the enforcement of
this would fall under code enforcement
yep
who else
all right well this is a second rating
and as we know there's no public comment
without a speaker slip filled out so uh
move on please before we move on Mr
President can I just get a little
guidance would you like me to separate
this into a separate ordinance yes
please get the proposed amended just
with the mulch volcano changes okay I'll
work on it
all right we move to number six public
comments
do we have any speaker slips
Natalie or Mr McPeak
and number seven president's report I
have no president's report tonight I
will move to the City attorney report no
report this evening and we'll move to
the honors report
um
though we were on a break and I was on a
slightly extended break we did continue
auditing expenses so I will simply say
that I did look at those purchases and
um I think over the past couple months
we purchased the front end loader and
again that was done within budget and
then um also completed the spat Splat
Splash Pad that's easier said than than
not but or difficult to say whatever
also under budget so just a couple big
purchases that flew through our expenses
and um
um all within budget so I wanted to
share that
thank you the the auditing never goes on
never stops it never stops all right
we'll move on to the administrative
update then thank you
our Administration administrative update
with Mr Bayshore service director
thank you Andy for joining us no problem
um my report is up and uploaded but I do
not have anything to add tonight but I'm
happy to answer any questions
oh oh sorry sorry I had a note for for
you and now I I could as I could not
read my handwriting Monique and it uh
this is not about your report but I
wanted to commend you and your service
department
um last week I had a resident reach out
to me regarding an issue with one of
their alley lights uh I asked Andy and
the mayor to look into it to see if
anything can be done that request was on
a Thursday and by Monday Andy and his
crew had already been out there and
looked at Alternatives and made some
adjustments and I think that that kind
of quick prompt professional uh customer
service to our residents is amazing so I
wanted to say thank you for hopping on
it so quickly it doesn't surprise me
that you did it that fast but I just
need other people to know how how
tremendous um
tremendously quick our service
department acted on it thank you thank
you
Sam quick question here uh Monique
actually this kind of comes back to you
is that Miss Jill by chance Smith so
that's interesting because Miss Jill had
a similar issue in the prompt response
and it's been big since she was very
happy as well so I guess that leads me
to ask are we having I mean what are we
with the new lights is this a common
problem that's your name from other
residents or is this just a couple
locations or
it kind of depends on the location when
they're installed there's three
different settings they can be as far as
the wattage we always go with the
highest just to see because that puts
out the most light as far as the
security and the alleys if it's a
problem for the residents then we will
go in and dim it down or Shield it
I don't think we haven't installed them
recently these are these are from the
past year maybe right yeah
so for whatever I think maybe people
being outside more at you know later who
knows
um Andy I wanted to highlight uh
something we've been dealing with with
the somebody mentioned I think Jim
mentioned a number of wind storms that
we've had this year we've had a lot of
wind storms we get a lot of texts at
night that police have called in limbs
down trees down
um it's been unusual in that activity
and as a result of that our tree Crews
have been doing more overtime and
they've also been doing a lot of
catch-up so like after every Windstorm
there's a the tree Crews just get
rerouted they spend like a week doing
cleanup essentially I mean we probably
had like
five six or more events like this
probably more it's been unusual it's
been very unusual spring and summer so
as a result
um you know the way that we the way that
we prioritize tree treatment in the
right-of-way is uh basically how severe
is the issue is it aesthetic versus
safety based safety based goes first
Aesthetics next we do have some work
orders on just aesthetic trimming that
are like a year behind right now so like
in in terms of just where we're at on
our in our in our work order placement
system you'll of course hear a little
bit about that during our budget process
uh but also you'll hear you might hear
about that from residents just wanted to
give you that context and explain
safety issues come first you know clean
up after storms come first then
aesthetic and they are being triaged you
know
appropriately it's not just necessary
when the person calls it's when they
call coupled with where it falls in the
priority list
anything else for Andy
yes Matt
what streets are getting the sewer
lining in lights on the bed in late
September
we're still evaluating that right now
our sewer Crews have been um video and
I got to meet with the city engineer and
our sewer supervisor there's three or
four we're going to look at we haven't
been it out yet okay yeah
just so being an amazing Arboretum with
all of the lovely trees in Bexley how do
we decide how do we determine if if the
tree trimming from the service
department is
um
if it's going to be a safety issue
versus
um aesthetic
how do we how do we make that
determination out of curiosity just just
by the tree Crews um I mean right after
the storm the first thing they do so
usually that whole day and sometimes
depends how bad the storm was is just
running Street the street
um we get a lot of calls from the
dispatchers and the dispatchers will
just put the calls in and the trees on
the list for us and we'll go check
everyone
um and we just work on you know work on
the trees as we get the calls and on the
list and safety is always first if
there's a hanger sidewalk anything like
that street that's that's what we
concentrate on first
so the the Call Comes in somebody goes
out takes a look at it puts it on the
work list appropriate to the type of
work order that it ends up being
and I know that's that's a tough one but
um I know that there have been you know
situations where
the tree we didn't know it was going to
be a safety thing until after the
Windstorm and maybe a resident hadn't
called for aesthetic right and then it
turns into safety
um I don't know if there's a better way
of determining that prior age of the
tree I don't know
as much as we work on our trees and you
know trim them
um I'd like to think they're all pretty
safe but the storms we've had this
summer I mean
just pretty unpredictable
thank you Andy thank you for joining us
this evening
uh Mike price is is Mike
remote today Mike is remote on the
system and uh Mike if you can hear us if
you wanna
join in
yeah can you hear me okay sounds great
wow
look at that look at there
um yeah nothing to add to my written
report but happy to answer any questions
Mike I want to thank you and your team
and the volunteer coordinator and all
the volunteers for a fantastic Splish
Splash and Dash
Mike and I had our weekly meeting
earlier this week and uh you know we're
talking about what's new what's new is
the Splish Splash and Dash is over right
now
uh no injuries kids were happy uh or
they learned how to adjust to not
winning which is good too
great job and kudos to you guys Mike
well thank you I appreciate it
any questions for Mike
uh Monique
Mike I think you're going to drop off
after after the administrative updates
but I know that we have ordinance
25-23 coming up and it's understanding
that your preference is that Council
adopted or suspend and adopt that is
there anything that you'd like us to
know before you drop off so that we
consider that when it comes up
I mean in terms of the suspension
adoption and as we mentioned at the last
meeting we we are uh you know we'll
essentially out of money so in that
account so we'll we'll struggle to pay
bills uh without a suspension adoption
um so
um that's the reason we're asking for it
um and uh you know I thought we could
get at least two reads in which
hopefully is better than just one and uh
again would appreciate uh Council
considering that as we talked about last
week it is
um
uh you know a it's essentially an offset
for additional
um program registration so uh you would
see in our uh revenue for seniors you
would see a sort of a reflection of
these expenses uh our our Revenue I
don't have it off the top my head was
around uh 33 000 I think uh through
mid-year and we had spent about twenty
uh seven thousand over thirty thousand
dollar budget so uh those programs are
designed to basically cover their costs
uh which they're doing uh so the fact
that we need additional funds that we
fully expect to cover those costs those
additional costs above and beyond what
we had anticipated
right
all right thank you any other questions
for Mike Mike thanks for joining us
remotely have a good day
thank you
uh now up next
our finance director Beecher Hale
good evening excuse me I really don't
have much to add to beechers bottom line
um because it's very very similar to the
report from last week
revenue is up above budget all a major
expenditure categories are coming in
under budget and uh so it's just um
things are good so far this year
and that's all I have I'll take any
questions feels like The Truman Show
every day sunny and yes it is thanks to
the finance department that's right good
job
lorianne Peter I know I noticed and and
almost high beach by the way nice
virtually
um I noticed that in almost all the
Departments
um uh building department for example
there's lower expenditures to date
um by a lot
um
are we gonna catch up I mean is it
because
okay some of those things or
especially in the building department we
typically typically catch up um
we uh
we have some of our contractors or not
contractors but professional contracts
who tend to bill us late and the mayor
stays on them
um but I would have guessed they're
behind again where they were earlier
this year they are okay
I just was hoping maybe not only that
was the case but we were doing things so
efficiently that perhaps our
expenditures were also a lot of them
yeah a lot of these won't catch up but
building department since you
specifically mentioned that one that one
could catch up okay
thank you
yes
any other questions
no Beecher I'll just say thanks
um I think every time uh you send this
to me for review You've added something
new and I particularly liked
um just what we talked about and that
that's adding the cash balances and the
yields on investments
um so we're getting about you know
almost three times the return on our
investments that we have in Prior years
and that's tied to the overall market
conditions and and again I think that's
something that as we look in the budget
for next year we're going to see these
rates stay relatively High
um so again I just appreciate your
continuous Improvement on this
um I think it's important that we
continue to create these usable
um formats that allow for just easy
conversation on on you know how we're
performing from a financial standpoint
so appreciate it be sure
yep thanks Matt appreciate that
good work Beach thank you
sir
uh Chief Gary D Lewis Jr is here uh with
the
Castle latte chief thank you um really
the only thing I'd like to add is with
all the extra money that Beecher has we
have ways of spending that
[Laughter]
liked
[Laughter]
it
uh nothing to answer Chief if you could
um one of the questions that our last
council meeting was uh relative to an
agenda topic it is coming up but I just
wanted to address it here while you're
with us which is ordinance 2423
appropriating 15906 from the law
enforcement trust fund and 21 425 from
the DUI enforcement and education fund
and one the question the council is
asking is is there an intended use for
those funds if you could just kind of
give them an overview that'd be awesome
absolutely so um very quick historical
perspective we've had a number of funds
within the police department that we've
never utilized those ordinance had never
been created for us to then expel those
monies so typically when you look around
the state of Ohio most law enforcement
agencies have three different funds in
their setup in these ordinances where I
come back to council and then find ways
to spend said monies these are really
one-time monies that are often and
collected from DUI fines they're
collected from drug seizures money
forfeitures so we'll have a number of
those coming up the really the sense of
urgency for us currently is most
recently monies that we had received
back from a traffic stop is being able
to pay the court so we want to make sure
that we are in compliance of paying the
court although we're outside of that we
have been working with them and sharing
that these are ordinances that we're
trying to get passed to ensure we can do
it long term but what I've shared with
the mayor is that we will sit down and
really collectively look at what's going
to make the most sense to be able to to
use these monies and and really
structured around that
um today's conversation with the
Department I think what we'll probably
look at doing is creating a uniform
amount of about
um fifty two thousand dollars in total
to purchase ammunition and ARS for each
and every officer our officers currently
do not have that so that would cover
that it's not impacting our budget these
are monies that are coming in from
different means and would be able to
capture that
any other questions for the chief
Jess is first the Monique
yes uh Chief Lewis just looking um
quickly at the crash reports wanted to
see if you could elaborate a little bit
more on that
so let me take a look quickly because I
haven't
um
so as far as the total numbers can see
crash reports 134
they're just they're up
didn't know if there was anything that
we
you know I I think uh no there's no
um having spent many years in that world
of uh crash reports and and seeing it I
don't know that there's ever really a
true cause or effect I do think
oftentimes what happens is more people
are reporting them and so they're more
providing that response and then
documenting it but no true cause or
effect to say that we have what I then
do and we'll do that in the next
quarterly audit you see if there's any
causative factors that may be similar
and then so that will be an evaluation
or a location
causative factors citations all of those
things and so we're doing that quarterly
now okay
Monique
Chief I want to thank you because you're
you're one year anniversary is coming up
I believe September 1st
um for those council members or folks in
the room
he was here
um the Beckley citizens Police Academy
alumni association is having their
annual meeting and dinner on Thursday
August 31st the day before your one year
anniversary and chief Lewis is going to
be our keynote speaker he's going to be
thrilling us with his urine review of
all that he has done all that he still
has to do I'd invite any council member
who wants to come just let me know and
we'll make sure that you are added but I
just wanted to recognize that your your
one year of service is coming up and I
know that you've been incredibly busy
and we thank you for that thank you
and you'll you'll if you review last
week's meeting we uh we did a year
interview for the chief gave us a great
year in review he received accolades
up the Wazoo and his head was not big
enough to fit out the door so we just
need to be a little careful about like
over pictures
we took pictures
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president Markham yes uh you know one of
the things I'm sort of curious about too
is the business checks I hear that
you're done I'm just curious if you have
any feedback from that like how do you
measure success from that you know that
that sort of thing so you know the
business checks are something that we
started um I think in my second week and
the feedback continues to be extremely
overwhelming
um the positive is is that I have a
process that I call check the Checker
and so I'm checking to make sure that
folks are doing what they're supposed to
be doing so I then go into businesses
and the first thing that these business
owners managers employees say your
officers were just here and they show me
the business cards from when they are
coming in on the amount of interaction
that we have with our business community
and we have filled our community liaison
position
um Clayton Adams has
um successfully been chosen for that so
he'll be our primary point in building
some best practices risk management with
our business Community we have those
business checks for example on midnight
shift the number of businesses in
vaccine that are that go unlocked where
someone has forgotten to lock doors
um are high and when we see it on the
daily reports and they're providing
these updates so it is working out very
well it's really great proactive
policing it's forcing officers to get
out of their Cruisers it is forcing them
to check doors to go in and engage with
people so it is changing how we do
business completely so it has been a
really a big success
so much Chief appreciate it and then are
you hanging around for the readings or
I'm not saying you should but I think I
want to confirm that we need a
suspension adoption on the one we do
you're requesting that
the trust funds yeah
thank you Chief
um
we are now going on to oh my update and
uh just I'm gonna try to be quick
because tonight is Ella's birthday I'll
turn 17 today so uh got ice cream cake
and presents in the future so don't
worry I will be fast I promise this time
for real
um a couple things I want to highlight
uh is we did uh provide an offer and it
was accepted to
fulfill our human resources coordinator
position Emily Buckley will be starting
with us on September 12th thank you for
your support
um
we have a couple year the parks updates
there uh
you should check out the pond it's
coming along very nicely met with the
contractor on site today and they're
looking at mid to late September
completion
um just to give you a feel for this the
where the mouse cursor is right there
there's going to be a tree island kind
of in this area right here uh so if you
swim between that tree island and the
bridge over here we're talking about our
first polar challenge is going to be
December 26th boxing day uh
uh should be right uh so the ice bowler
challenge is between the bridge the tree
island and back uh and anyone who
completes that gets bragging rights so
put that on your calendar
broad immunity
we'll be talking about our strategic
Plan update during Jen's committee
report I also want to highlight uh the
questions are increasing about the
Trinity Apartments uh development and
review
the first hearing is is a preliminary
hearing it's happening this Thursday at
Council or not Council sir Visa that's
that's a preliminary site plan they are
still it's fluid they still have
multiple versions kind of floating out
in The Ether
um and they're looking for initial
feedback from Visa uh it is a it is
still a
hearing it has been notified uh so it
will have all the same procedures as a
normal hearing
um board of education is meeting on
September 13th
I believe they'll be discussing the Tiff
then
Architectural Review tree and public
gardens commission and Visa app again
have September meetings I believe the
airbn tree and Publix will be
preliminary hearings as well but I don't
know that for sure so that's why there's
a question mark there
um but I would not expect any votes in
September and we've made sure the
developer understands that too that
there's going to be a prolonged or
adequate process I would say for this
um so if you have residents asking how
to connect make sure you do Point them
to the blast if they are if they're
within that kind of notification radius
they would have received letters already
but we are keeping the blast we're
adding extra narrative about it if
you've noticed just to make sure people
are keeping apprised of it
um and uh of course we also have this
issue where you know like bizap for
example these are it's a quasi-judicial
appearing bizat members are sitting as
essentially judges over that hearing
they can't discuss it with
residents outside of the hearing and so
residents I've even got a call today
where somebody was asking like hey who
do I talk to about this and I kind of
have had to educate and explain that the
everyone has kind of a different role
and of course Mark can clarify but
council is a potential appellate body as
well so you guys just as a reminder need
to be careful about the way that the
ways that we discuss this and we're
trying to provide as much information to
the public as possible so that they can
come and testify at those those key
points uh for whatever it is that
they're interested in talking about
um
two other things
quickly can you I'm sorry yep can you uh
Mark can you kind of weigh in on that a
little bit
sure so it's not uncommon of course for
members of the public to turn to their
legislators their council members and
ask for information or even legitimately
Lobby you in a position that they might
have uh concerning anything and what you
need to be watch out for though and
again you certainly can listen to what
people have to say but you should not
necessarily share any
um thoughts or get into any discussions
with members of the public regarding the
plan the the specific plans for the
potential development and the old
Trinity site because you at some point
may have to sit as an appeal board from
decisions that the bizap makes on these
issues and again I think what you really
need to politely let them know is that
you know they should feel free to share
their input and Thoughts with the mayor
because he doesn't have those same
restrictions but again that and that
there will there's a process that will
be played laid out but because again and
I know it's not always easy to explain
but that you may have to make decisions
that are
a little bit different for a city
council and so you can't really discuss
those issues without any because the
case might come before you
and I think one of the this happens with
any sort of project where there's
concern over the project I think one of
the one of the sort of gut reactions
that residents have is they see a
proposal
and they assume because it's been
proposed therefore it must be good right
and so I think it's always helpful to be
able to describe to Residents and I can
do this so feel free to send people to
me I Troy got an email from someone
today I spoke to a little bit later
about the same concerns and I was just
able to say
we have the same concerns you do like
with staff as we review this like
absolutely like the X Y and Z is
something that we are are you know
keeping a really close eye on and making
sure that that gets communicated clearly
and that that it has adequate hearing
and we believe through this hearing
process those will be addressed but just
them hearing like okay like this is
ongoing it's just at the very front and
contextualizing it can be really helpful
so I can do that Kathy Rose
staff Jason sudey uh who's our planning
consultant Karen Boker we're all able to
talk to Residents and kind of
contextualize that for them that doesn't
mean that they're all going to love the
end product or what gets approved but it
does mean that we can help kind of
communicate through it yeah I'm sorry I
think that's a really good point that I
should have mentioned that is that you
have this is just something you might
see someplace that is not the final
product and it's going through go
through a lot of hearings a lot of
vetting before we get there
absolutely
um I wanted to share something with you
that we're working on at Schneider Park
I've mentioned this in passing uh it's a
it's a project that I've been trying to
help steer for a while and I figured
Troy since it's our um
or what did we call the your program for
recognizing authors the council author
Series yeah um I wanted to share with
you the the Birch Walk that uh the tree
commissions did approve over at
Schneider this is a really hard plan to
read but essentially as you go down the
path this is towards the dog park not
only will it be the staircase restored
here but there's going to be a walk
through
um
white birches
with the
oh this doesn't oh there it is this is a
little bit easier to see white birches
kind of around the gazebo with the
Robert Frost Birches poem etched on
large flagstones uh in a series over I
think it's like 15 stones and those are
that's kind of a picture of what this
does
uh he's gonna be an honorary Bexley
resident by the time that we're done
with this so I thought it's a bit
fitting that uh talk about that that's a
fascinating
where was that
where did that originate from is this
based on anything I mean it's kind of
um do you know my love that poetry
started with this poem and I was a high
schooler in Connecticut in a campus that
we had a bunch of Birches everywhere and
I read this film and it like lit
something up in my brain yeah and so
um I was at Inniswood Park years ago
maybe 10 years ago Metro Park up in
Westerville and there was a a it was a
story I think and stone that the kids
could walk around yeah and I when I saw
that I was like I just couldn't unsee
the idea it's very neat and a Birch Walk
and so kind of floated that idea with
the Community Foundation before and
everyone's it's been very positively
received we didn't really know where to
put it and so this seemed like a really
great opportunity
um
now here's this is a big picture kind of
I want you guys to put on your
thinking Hats about how to handle this
uh question I'm about to ask you and
this is does not need to be answered
right away
I'm
please don't freak out when I say what
I'm about to say all right so everybody
has some context here
yes you're already running back
so I had a meeting today with our
planners for the parks and we're talking
about the Commonwealth Plaza
which has been coming along very nicely
and um you know we're gonna be starting
some
infrastructure work that's required
regardless of whether or not we're doing
the plaza just to facilitate the timing
and as we looked at the plan and we're
talking through some real specifics
um we're gonna we're planning on putting
stop signs at Commonwealth South and
Commonwealth North so that people stop
before they get into this different
changing road condition which is going
to be important because it's gonna be
different Road surface it's going to
slow down
they were talking about this crosswalk
in the center which is also a plaza and
you know different safety concerns about
how do we make sure that
pedestrians aren't just assuming they
can walk through here without a car
coming through and there are lots of
controls put in place
change of pavement conditions it rises
up it's a big traffic table we're
talking about maybe we put another stop
sign there to kind of make sure people
know their pedestrians so as we talk
through all the different things we want
to do to make sure it's a really quality
safe experience
it's going to be a very very very slow
Street which is good super slow I mean
slow to the point where those of us who
love beautiful infrastructure will slow
down and be like oh my gosh this is just
amazing
slow to the point where people who are
used to driving up and down Columbia to
get to and from their house are probably
gonna be like
I'm going to avoid this all together
right and that's actually by Design we
want them to avoid it all together we
want them to go around it and not use
this as a pass through for the park
so as we're talking about this and and
some of this is kind of on some of the
extra traffic controls are unforeseen
they've come out as part of our planning
process
I just asked the question this morning
let's just take a step back because this
is not cheap like it's we have a budget
for it but it's it's a big price tag for
the brick and the granite and all the
things going on here let's take a step
back and let's revisit our assumption
because the Assumption coming into this
was we're not closing
Columbia Commonwealth Park and I ask you
counsel should we think about closing
Colombia at Commonwealth Park after all
I'll tell you some of the pros and cons
if we did that
we wouldn't need to obviously have
Street grade infrastructure going
through it
the plaza design could change a little
bit so it's not necessarily just in the
center maybe it's skewed towards like
the Gateway future to the South and you
have sort of a performance line in front
of it I'm just giving out some ideas
the um Hardscape would be greatly
diminished therefore we probably cut
about a million dollars off the project
cost just by closing the street and the
safety condition would be greatly
enhanced for our kids like there would
be no concern obviously about cars
driving through the park
which is a current concern today less of
a concern with this design but obviously
there's no concern at all if we close
off the park the reason when we planned
this it was about five or six years ago
we went through the planning process and
the feedback we received from some of
the residents was
very adamant about not closing the park
for a couple the primary reason being
access to their homes on Columbia
and then residents at Drexel and
Parkview who are concerned about extra
traffic that would be created by closing
down the park and the question I'm
asking now is aren't we kind of just
closing down the park in a very
expensive way shouldn't we maybe just
unify Commonwealth east and west
um
having gone through that process there's
a lot of context there and it feels a
little sacrilegious to say this out loud
but I feel like it's an important
threshold moment to ask the question
before we get real you know intent on
going to bid and and I want to emphasize
I don't think this is a
foolish expense if we're keeping
Colombia open this is the way to do it I
think it'll be beautiful if we're not if
we don't need to do that everything
we've done today is compatible with this
concept like none of it gets lost and
not not the design I mean all the all
the infrastructure and placement that we
put in place the Gateway Futures all
that all would work really well
underneath the revised plan if we did it
we'd have to open back up the box and
have to go back to the residence and say
New Concept what do you think
um and we would it would take some
courage because there will be people
that will be greatly opposed to it but I
just want to ask this gatekeeper
question because what we're about to do
will create infrastructure that will be
of value and no one's going to want to
close it off now for decades and decades
and decades so
I'm asking the question Mr Marcelino I
have a question uh can we do uh
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foreign
it's part of our plan it won't add costs
it's built into it is that we would have
the ability to close it off and have
like a like basically this um
Street closed sign that's that can go on
a chain around the bollards so that it's
designed into it so that's already part
of the the plan to allow that from time
to time
but do it always
in which case it's like why are we
paying the Street's a lot more expensive
to build than a uh a path or
a plaza for example
it's hovering around
it depends on how you calculated and I'm
going to throw some numbers around that
honestly I haven't looked at them super
recently so I want to get make sure I'm
being accurate with this Andy might be
able to correct me but I think that the
street portion of it which includes the
surface the curbain Landscaping is in
the range of a million dollars I think
and then I think that the plaza itself
with the pergolas is hovering around
four or five hundred thousand
and what's the cost savings that we're
talking about about a million dollars so
it's about a million dollars cost
savings yeah to not have to make it a
thorough this is all speculation we
haven't we don't that design doesn't
exist so knowing the kit of parts that
exists yeah I think that's probably a
fair a fair estimate yeah okay
that's all the devil's in those details
so that's the sort of thing that you
want to go back to the drawing board
with a plan and and come up with
something different I mean we have some
time to keep planning we're we're about
to hit the infrastructure piece which is
water line has to happen anyway like
whether or not there's a street there
underground in the utilities has to
happen anyway
so we have some time to explore this
deeper but that's the sort of stuff that
you would talk through is like what do
you want to and build into those
amenities yep
that reaction
the question is
do we know how often has there been any
trafficking how often are as far as
um you know is it just residents are
people using it as a thorough you know
as a through way I mean if we're talking
a couple cars a day we did pretty
extensive traffic studies as part of our
uh initial plan so we have that
information
what it doesn't tell us is who's why are
they driving through so we don't know if
it's like going to a house you know
coincidentally I have heard for example
you know Columbia doesn't have nearly as
many stop signs necessarily as like
Drexel so not the Drexel has a ton so
it's it's a little bit easier uh there's
some people that cut through Columbia to
avoid the light at Parkview but it's all
it's not scientific it's pretty low
volume yeah
three uh new drivers in the last I don't
know how long very recent I know that
those intersections are a little on the
scary side because
if my kids are going West on either one
of
the commonwealths if you will
and Colombia doesn't have they're used
to them stopping they're not used to
people going and and you know I have to
really add a quick warning to the kids
to beware this there is not a stop sign
there is not a four-way stop they're not
stopping you've got to
um
and to me that just uh yeah I mean of
course if we're going to do that we're
gonna have to put some some more the
stop signs to make sure that those
little people crossing that street are
safe and and I've always questioned why
there weren't
stop signs there anyway because there
are balls that go out into that area and
um
and I just don't think that it's safe
for our kids and
and as
the person in this room that lives the
closest to this area I I have to say
that I think that closing it would make
it that much
safer for our community I think that
this would
I am saddened that more people don't
come to enjoy Kind of Love Park I mean
it makes it makes me sad that really the
what we use that I mean it made me so
joyful that the the the night out was
right there all I had to do was walk
over there and it was and then there was
so much joy on that field there was so
much
so many people utilizing that green
space it was it was so wonderful and I
really think that we are trying to make
it a destination for our community I
think closing that will make it that
much more so I really do and you know
the street
so I am
where the blue arrow is
basically and
that area there is where the Pond's
going so Commonwealth North between
Parkview
and Colombia has been closed I can't get
through
big deal
I mean it's a
we live in a grid go around it's not
going to be I mean I can't imagine I
can't imagine that that that that is
going to you know ruin people's lives
because they can't get down Columbia
that little stretch of Colombia why are
you laughing at me yes we live in a grid
big deal
no I can but I know I know well I I
lived through the people forgetting that
we needed a you know that how nice it is
to have a porta pot on on a soccer field
people I mean
don't get me started
you're rehearsal no you're reversed you
were first yes Jess was actually before
either of you I think to be honest I
thought you pointed at both of us sorry
um just to confirm if we decided to
close off the street we would bring this
back to the public for them
yes so I'm asking you are what do you
think about opening the question back up
I'm not asking for like a final decision
I say that with trepidation like I can't
like it's yeah but that's the question
so are we opening the question back up
I would assume we want more feedback and
this is new information at the time of
the plan
this was in concept and now it's real
like we have actual numbers we and I
believe in this plan I think it'll be
beautiful it'd be great
but would it be better now that we know
all the things we have to do to really
slow down the traffic like would it
is it really is the Pearl worth the dive
you know I think it's a big project and
we're spending
a nice amount of money on it and so if
we are we need to get it right
and it has looked differently than what
it was originally presented
it looks beautiful
um but I think it is worth
probably revisiting with the with the
community to get that feedback to see
what they think
um
with the Drexel project going on right
now
um you know would would there be a lot
of people who want to keep that open or
closed or what would they think about
that
um
so I'm kind of leaning towards it
possibly could be something that we do
look at revisiting a question on the
current plan
are there splash pads on this I can't
remember because I'm so you know excited
about our splash pads on the year of the
parks
um not there are not currently splash
pads but there's been talk about
integrating the water features somehow
in the plaza piece yeah are there swings
no so this is right now as design these
are pergolas with like a combination of
like you know Adirondack and Cafe style
seating
ice rink if we shut down the streets
there's that's a
that's an interesting topic for
conversation
Matt I remember this project uh
from last year when we talked in the
budget season I thought we had 400 000
allocated for the front entrance did we
do would this be a budget item to do the
street for the additional million
because I don't I don't remember like a
1.5 million dollar project or 1.4 the
the there's multiple budget items but
there's budget items for the plaza
itself okay for the medians
and then for the
Follies slash Gateway Futures on the
south side
and then the budget for the street piece
is coming from a combination of opwc
funding
as well as the street fund okay
so the street piece the million dollars
yeah and I really I feel super
uncomfortable give 300 a number because
I haven't looked at that spreadsheet for
a little bit but
it's a it's a high it's a high price tag
a chunk of that's coming from you know
opwc grant money
so yeah so I was getting how much that
million dollars are we on the course how
much is a grant money
I'd have to break that out I'm not sure
we even have it broken out yet all the
way
so we did budget for this we did whole
okay I didn't remember that okay it's a
we've set aside funding but it was it
wasn't like a line item it's like
internally as we've done planning we set
aside funding in the street fund to be
able to capacitate it and knowing as
part of obwc
okay
yeah mayor I was going to ask
I I think that I have a vague memory
however many years ago of like was there
a refresh group there's a whole like
Commonwealth like working group that
came to council and I don't know if the
majority of folks who are on here now
are on Council then but we had a lot
more information than
um
am I wrong in recalling what I just said
it was that no not at all it's uh it was
called The Commonwealth Park master plan
it was 2017 Matt McPeak it was his first
dive into city government
he was so enthralled with the process
that he just became the auditor
immediately so it's on our website you
can check it out
um
and
was that the first part of the question
though yeah I was just trying to recall
I thought that there was more
information and I don't know you said it
was 2017. okay
um so that's something to look for I I'm
interested in getting more information
when right now are you scheduled to go
to bid on the current plan as is so
we're still in the process of working on
those construction drawings which is
what you're looking at is sort of some
initial
draft documents uh that came out of our
planning process but now it's going to
construction drawings so we're not I
wouldn't think we would be ready to go
to bid until another month or two
um at least in terms of just the work
that's going into construction documents
it depends there's some fluidity
depending on how we bid out the burglars
if they're a separate bit or not if they
are a separate bid then that month or
two is probably accurate
and if they are Incorporated that'll
drag on even longer
and my last question is if you could
email all of council the 2017 document
that you just showed us sure yep and
that'd be maybe some helpful reading
Jess
both of your conversations I have one
last question if we shut down
um this area
for driving would we lose the parking
spaces yes how many parking spaces
um it's 12 I think uh I have to double
check 12 or 16 12 to 16. uh now hold on
we pick up some you pick up some extra
at the intersection but I think you'd
pick up maybe eight so it would be a net
loss
of like four to six parking spaces
because where the street is today what
gets closed and then you can park on
that side of the street on both both
ends
so it's a little bit of an impact it's
not it's not major
so I uh
I sat with Matt McPeak on the
Commonwealth uh
thing as well and I just remember the
this beautiful work by Brian Kent Jones
uh putting all this together I just I
just love love you know love all the
work that they've done on this a
transformative thing
this is easy question for me to answer
because in my mind if you were to say
Troy would you like to save a million
dollars I would say yes and then if you
said Troy would you love to create a
cohesive Commonwealth Park that brings
those together and allows that middle
instead of being a car passageway to be
more of a recreational Gathering area
that is between those I would also say
yes so for me it's a big yes
Counterpoint
um the design challenge with that with
Brian Ken Jones who's part of this team
that's working on this right now
um was not to close the street I know
that and I think that the same team
given the design challenge of okay you
get to close the street now and make it
more cohesive they would blow it out of
the park so I think not not to use the
best but you mean Architects would like
to get back at this and change it again
that's so surprising the thing you just
said that you that is achieved through
this park would happen but even more so
because it would be an actual true
stitching together well yeah for sure
but what we have here is this this Plaza
here that is going to unite those anyway
it just perhaps may have traffic coming
through it which we always thought was
going to be potentially you know
challenging or whatever what we have
here to me forgive my cynicism looks
like bexley's version of Lombard Street
a little bit where we're going to have
cars creeping through a you know an area
where people are going to be enjoying
themselves and especially a lot of kids
so I I totally get that if you want to
spend another 20 years with Brian Kent
Jones coming up with new drawings I'll
sit on that uh thing as well and I'll
look at those as well but I do believe
it would be worth it I I would you know
if you said it cost more to do this then
I'd have to sit there and think about it
but if you're saving a million dollars
by by doing this I'd be I agree
completely with lorianne I think it's
creates enough misinterpreting what
you're saying I thought you were saying
yes as in do it exactly how this is
drawn oh no oh gosh
am I being unclear
oh
I I'm here would you like me to say
everything I just said again no no we're
with you
I think I would shut it off I would
gotcha yeah I would think to unite that
is a really good idea I think it creates
a cohesive Commonwealth Park that I
think is much more valuable than the two
that we still have with that construct
that gang still allows traffic through
there like that so if we can do that I
think that makes the park better and if
we save a million dollars I like that
too I like having an extra million
dollars so both of those sound good yes
there you go gotcha sorry no sorry my
bad
Sam thank you
um in regards to I just want to make a
statement so I've been asked for an
answer right now
closing at the time was gone but I just
make sure that somebody came through I
don't know exactly which stage she's
been coming from for each side of the
part but as long as for somebody to
confirm about it because
it's station 20 that serves station 20
and or 8 on Long Street that serves that
area station 20 is right by St Thomas a
casting fifth
Fifth Avenue is casting and fifth right
up right by St Thomas off Cassie and fit
yeah yeah right there
but your Point's valid because they'd
have to go around but
um
have you have you approached the
architect about uh cost impact to his
contract or to their contracts and well
I don't know what the overall contract
for we would have to you know this is
like literally like basically the
thought I had in my head this morning so
I was like I need a design you know if
we paid him a hundred thousand dollars
and he's got to totally redo it and he's
like all right you're gonna pay me
another hundred thousand dollars to redo
it
but I there have been funds expanded on
this plan and it would be like a due
diligence right that we have to now
shift gears oh yeah additional design
costs yeah it's a totally different
designer like the construction drawings
for a street are different from yeah I
mean why don't you if you tell them to
hold on construction drawings
I don't know hold on I'm waiting to hear
what you guys have to say we don't spend
anything well I just know these kind I
don't know the way it's structured but
usually there's
schematic design design development
construction drawings you pay in
increments if I walk out of this room
and the feedback I'm feeling is like yes
back up this box and we're gonna pause
CDs right away yeah okay
my if I had a voter I'm saying my
opinion would be to pause CDs I don't
know if anyone asked the question I'm
hearing from you guys ask the question
of the podcast question
cool so that was as usual very short
report
oh that was that was an aberration I I
I'll cut you some slack on that one
aberration there's a lot that was a big
thing to talk about
sorry I didn't mean to cut the mayor off
but I'm done moving I appreciate it all
right I think we're on to the kids okay
we're on the consent agenda and two
hours into the meeting
um that's okay there's a lot going on
meeting minutes from August 15 2023.
I'll answer questions on the consent
agenda
if not I moved to adopt the consent
agenda may get a second second second by
Mr Klingler uh Mr mcpeek please call the
rule Mr Marcelino Miss lamke yes Miss
sad yes Mr Markham yes Miss feibel yes
Mr Klingler yes Miss Robinson yes
consent agenda passes thank you all
right we have no third readings ronda's
second reading for ordinance 23-23 to
appropriate ten thousand dollars from
the water fund and ten thousand dollars
from the sewer fund to pay overtime for
the remainder of 2023 MS lamkey
thank you Mr Fishel I'm gonna throw this
over to our city auditor or the mayor to
maybe give some additional explanation
as to why we need this at this time
yeah I can just give a brief overview
um reached out to both Beecher and um Mr
Bayshore and and ultimately just tried
to get to the root of ultimately what's
what's leading to this and um if I
understood our email exchange correctly
um you know and all of the budget
conversations that occurred the intent
was to have
um the overtime budget set at amounts
ultimately they're reflected in this
um this this ordinance
unfortunately through the budget process
that intent did not get translated to
the budget that was presented to us
um so
you know at the end of the day I went
back and also looked and last year I
think we spent closer to twenty thousand
dollars in overtime for the water fund
so you know when you look at it
um it seems pretty apparent that in the
water fund
um those funds were used in Prior years
and obviously on Trend this year to
exceed
um the amount that we have in the budget
sewer fund is right now under budget
um I think this is more of a
precautionary measure in anticipation of
overtime that comes with some of the
seasonal changes and issues that occur
but I don't want to speak for for you
but would you agree with that
I would yeah so you know from my view
um gotta trust the the department heads
and and respect the intent and respect
the intent did not get put into the
budget that was approved from my view
um I would just like to partner with the
mayor and Beecher and and the department
heads and really better understand
um the budget process and understand how
do we get to a point where despite all
of these Herculean efforts that
everybody goes through to build out a
good budget we're looking at a budget
that was not what what folks intended so
um you know what I'd like to do is reach
out to Beecher have him go back and look
at you know this ordinance and a handful
of others and just get to the root cause
and understand what's happening and try
and put in processes and controls where
you know we're we're not at this kind of
spot and revisiting budget heirs because
when we look at this
um you know in the grand scheme of
things on our budget these are not huge
dollars but
um for me it's more important in getting
the processes and controls in place to
prevent
you know a few more decibel points
getting added to these numbers and and
finding ourselves in a bigger issue so
um that's perhaps a bit more than you
were looking for but
um that's ultimately what I learned and
then
um you know what I'd like to do in the
coming months in anticipation of the
budget season kicking off
great thank you Mr McPeak um and are we
fairly certain that those figures are
sufficient for the remainder of 2023.
yeah I'm pretty confident with those
numbers right now okay
okay
potentially consent agenda I'm just
asking how do how do folks feel
no objections all right I'm hearing yes
okay Natalie put that on the consent
agenda for us thank you
okay so we're on to Second reading of
ordinance 24-23 to appropriate fifteen
thousand nine hundred six dollars from
the law enforcement trust fund fund 18
and to appropriate 21 000 to 425 from
the DUI Enforcement Education fund fun
fund 24 introduced by Ms lamkey
thank you Chief Lewis spoke to this a
little earlier tonight and he's asked
that we
suspend and adopt this are there any
questions from Council
hey see none I moved to suspend the
three reading requirement for ordinance
24-23 motion to suspend the three
reading rule by Ms lamke second seconded
by Ms Fievel
um Mr McPeak
am I calling the role for falling around
adoption okay suspension okay thank you
sorry uh Mr Markham yes Mr Klingler yes
Miss sad yes Mr Marcelino Miss viable
yes Miss lamkey yes and Miss Robinson
the three ringing Rule's been suspended
for and it's 23 day 24-23.
my motion to adopt ordinance
24-23 motion to adopt by Ms Lemke
yes Mr Markham yes Miss Robinson Mr
Marcelino and Mr Klingler yes
motion is adopted okay we are on to a
second reading of ordinance 25-23 to
appropriate 35 000 to the senior program
professionals account zero
one-355-51135 to cover the additional
costs associated with an increase in
programming Ms lamke thank you uh Mike
price book about this uh earlier today
and I believe at the last meeting we've
also been asked to
suspend and adopt this one are there any
questions from Council before I make a
motion
I moved to suspend the three reading
requirement for ordinance 25-23 ocean to
suspend the three reading rule by Ms
lamke
second second by Miss Todd Mr McPeak
Mr mercelino Miss Robinson Miss fiebel
yes Assad yes Miss lamke yes Mr Markham
yes Mr Klingler yes Moshe says spend the
3D rooting rule was passed
I moved to adopt ordinance 25-23
uh
oh yeah no I thought I heard Laurie Anne
say something we're good I hear
Whispering behind me but uh there's been
an emotion to adopt by Mrs lamke second
second by Mr Klingler Mr mcpeek please
uh Nissan yes Miss Bible yes Mr Robinson
Mr Marcelino Mr Klingler yes Miss lamke
yes Mr Markham yes ordinance 25 23
passes
thank you all right we are now on to a
second reading of ordinance 27-23 to
amend chapter
452.06 unattended vehicles duty to lock
ignition remove key it's set break Etc
in order to modernize provisions of this
section and to expand restrictions and
idling for the protection of both the
health of citizens and the environment
and to add section
618.25 animals and unintended Motor
Vehicles in order to protect the Health
and Welfare of animals and unintended
Vehicles introduced by Ms fiebel
okay we introduced this last week and we
do have some amendments that hopefully
will sit a little bit better with some
of you but prior to doing that I just
want to do a little bit of reminding
um I want to
state that I think that we all could
agree that reducing idling conserves
fuel
and it clears the air the chemicals from
Vehicles exhausts are harmful
and can make asthma worse
did you know that most of us waste one
to two tanks of gas every year by idling
and that idling for more than 10 seconds
uses more fuel than simply restarting
your car
for over 13 years the state of Ohio made
it illegal to leave your car
unattended
while on
until
the revarts remote starters were
introduced and that was around a 2017
and that made it legal too because your
car could continue to be locked because
indeed that was Ohio's reason for making
an unattended idling vehicle illegal is
because you would end up locking your
keys in the car
or leaving it unlocked and leaving it to
be a very easy target for people to um
to steal it in fact Ohio is the fifth
largest uh it has the fifth largest
number of stolen vehicles in the nation
um
and uh but um in between 2013 and 2015.
um nearly 9 000 cars in the state were
stolen with keys in the ignition
and the first 15 days of January 2021
100 cars were stolen in the metropolitan
area in our metropolitan area
um Popular Mechanics advises that the
process of warming up your car
does not prolong the life of your engine
in fact it decreases it by stripping oil
away from the engine's cylinders and
pistons
it's not better to start to it's not
better to idle uh than to start up again
because the idling leads to incomplete
combustion and more residue on the
Indian components
it takes less gas to turn off and
restart the engine than to idle it more
than 10 seconds and idling for two
minutes
burns the same gas as driving a mile
there's no benefit to warming up any
modern day car model if you still insist
on warming it up though
it should be for no more than 30 seconds
since the engine warms faster when
you're actually driving the car
recording the EPA more than two dozen
states
and many cities and local counties have
laws that limit the amount of time that
a vehicle can be idling
so I'm arguing that this is going to
come to our state I pray that we are
progressive enough to
to save our environment just a little
South Euclid the outer temperatures when
it they have a law that with the outer
temperature is less than 32 degrees or
greater than 85 Degrees those are the
only times that you're allowed to to
idle and South eucalid in case those of
you don't know that's a suburb of
Cleveland and in Cincinnati drivers May
idle 10 minutes in any 60 Minute period
if the temperature is below 32. or above
85. and that went into effect in August
of 2014.
there are entire states that don't allow
idling
Connecticut Colorado again they're even
put an executive order that it makes uh
that's an anti-idling policy for
employees that drive public vehicles
so I could go on and on about about
um how Progressive this you know this is
going to happen it I mean it's not going
to happen necessarily here someday
people are going to be Progressive
enough in our state to realize that this
is a problem
um but Ben I would love for you to Mr
Mayor to put up
um the
the proposed amendments that we have to
this I mean
it these amendments um
indeed will allow for public for for you
all to do your your your starters from
the warmth of your place and allow your
allow your cars to to warm up
um
it gives uh it gives our our school
areas
um the right to
the principles the right to say
that they don't allow idling
um in the carpool line so hopefully
um the kids and I know there are a lot
of there are students on esec that will
be supporting this and I know that they
will be pushing their principles not to
do that because as I said to you well
last last time that the um
that the CO2 gravitates
the majority of it is at a low spot
because the cars are low and so our poor
little kids are the ones that are
breathing it in and the car lines
um
uh
yeah I think so too
um we have
um
so the superintendent can say or the
principals could say to prohibit I guess
it's just the superintendent yeah and
principle sorry
um these were things um some of these
amendments were
Ben listened last week to some of your
concerns and and you will hopefully see
them I don't know if are these new to
all of you or did you see these you
haven't seen these okay yeah all right
it was on the attached to Jenna but then
I just realized that there were comments
from Mark this morning that weren't on
that version so now it's an updated
attached
version
so it does allow you to to warm your car
up for 10 minutes on private property
um no more than 10 minutes in a 60
Minute period and and certainly while
you're actively taking snow off
um when it's not on your own private
property
um so then then D was the idea with the
with the superintendents um or the
principal
um uh
idling in Parks or in city property is
is not allowed
um and then D is um discusses for the
public safety of Public Service Vehicles
which uh could you can which parts of
these are new the uh I think most of
what I just outlined is is not just blue
like some of the right sorry that whole
section we basically
if I if can I do a quick overview is we
took out in response to the feedback
from last week we just kind of reread
the whole thing
and
um what it does is it preserves the
right as Lorraine said to
remote start your car just like you have
today doesn't change that at all it just
specifies that if it's not on your
private property that it that you would
be want you would be doing so for the
purpose of warming of the car up to you
know defrost essentially de-ice it do
you smell it
um and there's a time limit on that
and then gives broader rights to school
zones to extend it Beyond
simply a time limit to say that idling
is can only be done if it's a reason
related to health or welfare of a human
being
and the same language would apply
automatics due to our public parks and
city of Bexley property
so we're trying to listen to everything
that was said last meeting you can
continue to idle
on your own property you can continue to
remote start your cars
um on the on the on the street if it was
being used for utilitarian purposes of
removing snow
a nice
um and that there could be some more
broader deeper exclusions Within
parks and school zones we made sure that
the emergency vehicles were carved out
this version also has something about
mosquitoes in it that if uh just kidding
there's no mosquitoes in it
but only when they're helping can you
idle
same deals some questions yeah just in
what there's I'll tell you just from the
onset I think that this is certainly an
improvement thank you very much for the
work I would like more time with this
almost no matter what I'm interested
you're going to ask accounts will be
willing to table this to reconsider
because again I look at that this is
uploaded at 3 22 PM you know this is a
second I don't
care to move forward with it on a second
because when we
watch I mean I'm just going to move
forward
so that's how I see it just because of
where we're at with it
um I don't necessarily understand why a
superintendent or a superintendent or
principal would be the one
uh prohibiting this and enforcing this
um and so these are my questions that I
have sort of on answering them again
getting back to what the penalties are I
mean we just said some relatively
moderate penalties included in an
ordinance earlier for most volcanoes and
this could potentially have something
similar along with that I just don't
know I mean a minor misdemeanor I know
it's a small thing but it's really not
if you take the bar exam you still have
to report a minor misdemeanor you have
to explain it
um if you apply to become a police
officer you're still going to have to
explain that you had a minor misdemeanor
and while these things can be small in
nature they can certainly add up so I'm
just very concerned about that and the
impact of them because they show frankly
that you broke the rules and you didn't
care about the rules and that's what the
question is that you have to ask in your
character and fitness examinations
um to take those types of tests or enter
into that type of profession so I have
some concerns so if everybody wants to
move forward and you know I'll just tell
you it'll be a no from me
um if I don't get more time with it I if
we don't table it and consider but when
you want to table it whether it's next
time or this I don't that's fine but
um where I currently stand on I guess
Monique
um similar to my question about the
mulch volcanoes and the mosquitoes
could we separate out the
part about animals and unattended motor
vehicles and flush that out a little bit
more maybe under
safety and health because I'm
it's got that you're adding a section to
think I would like to see these
separated
that's just my my thought I would
certainly have no problem taking some
more time with this one as well so I
would I would support just a little more
time
who else I'm here Matt
no go ahead Matt
um thank you for the Amendments
um I really appreciate them
I am
I I
my main concerns is is really just the
enforcement of the idling I mean 10
minutes then a 16 minute period is that
like
you know an officer or a code
enforcement officer a police officer is
going to roll by start a stopwatch go
around the block for an hour
I don't know if that's really
enforceable
um
that's that's one concern I have the
other is
um like food trucks like uh you know
Gordon Food Service that delivers food
trucks they have they have to stay
idling because they refer their
Refrigeration on their trucks they have
to keep the food
um
cool right to deliver
or um
or any other sort of delivery service
that is delivering something
refrigerated
um
what else is that those those were the
two main main concerns I have I just um
I think it's going to be I don't know
that we can enforce it so I don't wanna
create a law that's unenforceable kind
of what we said last last time
that's that's my half oriented you
um
I appreciate what everybody says and
we're certainly not there's an
absolutely positively no reason to rush
anything along none whatsoever
um
this is I think this is really important
and I think there are a lot of
um States municipalities that agree that
this is really harmful and and
um simply bringing it in
to your
you know radar is is important to me
um
and I um I I
hear your words when it comes to
enforcing
and I know how important
a lot of the laws that we have passed
while I've been on Council have been and
I know that many of those laws are met
with warnings I mean I do know that you
could be fined for five five hundred
dollars you leave your car in Columbus
unattended and on
that's a 500 dollar
fine if you're if you're caught
um
I just find it
um
disgusting that for example I was at the
Beagle yesterday
and was sitting in my golf cart and a
woman left her car
she went inside
and the car was running in fact I had to
ask a friend this car's running isn't it
and she's like yeah it's running the
entire time
she was in the grocery store
her car was running no dog in it no
person in it nobody in it
and it was running
and it's just something it just doesn't
sit right with me it doesn't sit right
with me that that is something that
we're allowed to do in our community
that's
such
such a waste such a waste and and maybe
I had too many people in my life that
lived through the depression that would
have been ill at that just throwing that
energy and that money away so not only
that
but throw in the unnecessary exhaust
into the air
so I just I really think that it's
important for us to sit on this and
think about it and I and I and I love
your help and I love your minds and I
want you to help me with this and and
maybe an ordinance isn't the answer
um
and I'm willing to to be okay with that
but I but I do believe that when there
is a situation like this and when you
put a little bit of teeth into it when
it becomes a code and you can put those
numbers on those signs people think take
things much more seriously
um
so I want you to keep thinking I do and
I appreciate it please know that
Jess
I appreciate the research you did on
some of the municipalities that are how
they're
how it's being treated in those cities
if you don't mind since you already have
that compiled because you did all that
work sharing it with Council I'm happy
that'll help me kind of look at this and
the Amendments that have been made and
um get some time with it to better
understand it
um
I would really appreciate that and I
appreciate you uh doing the work that
you've done one other quick question on
this maybe for consideration is when we
were looking at freezing temperatures
you know it's really hot this week
um so we're living that heat
um how we looked at and even you did
mention that as far as you know 85
degrees and over and then you gave like
32 and under
um I don't think that's reflected in
this currently the heat correct it's not
okay it's it's very complicated that we
TR we we wanted and it was a Mr
Kessler's suggestion and I went there
with that the last time
the ordinance that I initially wrote
probably a year ago
after lots and lots of research about
these kind of things I
um
I had those numbers and it just seemed
very complicated I mean your
could argue your heat tolerance is
different than you know what you could
manage I mean some some states Wisconsin
for example I think there's their
threshold is 20 degrees
they're used to it being a little bit
colder I mean so I think it I think it's
you know it's it's all of these and and
when you look at a lot of conversations
that are on articles from the news Etc
that I have been doing research on you
hear a lot about warnings they're
warnings and I would much rather my
police officer spend time giving a
warning than having to spend hours upon
hours upon hours trying to find a stolen
car
um
because if you leave your car unlocked
and on that is just it's it's it and
it's just only getting worse our car
thefts are only getting worse
they're looking for easy opportunities
so I heard
um Sam say that he would like to to
table this
and if that it doesn't really to me in
the past it hasn't made sense for us
that's usually not when we table it we
usually table it at a third reading
um but I am I'm I'm comfortable
I'm just gonna throw out there that I
think my just my input into that is I
understand Sam's Point but typically I
think we go through a three reading
process
uh my
my recommendation would be to let it go
to the third reading because that's two
weeks you don't know what's going to
happen
listen I'm not asking a question right
now Mark uh that you don't know what's
going to happen in that time period so
uh that's the three reading rule does
give time between each of those for
things to happen certainly at the third
rating we can table it we can table it
for a year you know if we need to if we
feel like we want I'm not going to say
don't don't make a motion to table it
and I'll vote for that I mean I'll vote
the table and if people feel that way I
feel it's premature maybe to do that uh
for the ordinance itself I think
um
this is an improved version because it
does allow for you know some of these
instances I'm still when I get to see
I'm confused a little bit
um
I feel like we have in number one
then we're going to allow idling for 10
minutes on a residential property
but then when we get to 2 we're going to
allow for 10 minutes
if it's not on a residential property
for ice snow or sleet accumulation I'm
not sure what the difference is between
those two in this that scenario that
we're looking for like in this first
scenario it feels like we're allowing 10
minutes idling no matter what the
conditions are so that the resident can
just do that whatever and then in the
second one maybe if it's out on the
street or something we're giving an
accommodation for that
um
I it's you know it's better like I said
it's still kind of odd to me that the
resident's going to go back in and set a
clock for 10 minutes and if they go back
out and there's still snow all over
their car they have to take off the you
know to comply with the law a little bit
but I see the spirit of that that it's
trying to accommodate like some use or
whatever it just seems a little bit odd
to me and and I don't know I don't know
I don't know how how I feel about it
I'm with Monique that I think you should
pull the animal thing out of this and do
it separately I think that's a
no-brainer I don't think it's related to
to this really in terms of what we would
consider
um and I think
again
I'm pretty pleased with the way this is
all kind of I think this is legislating
uh Sam
um so if you want to table it if you
want to put that up there I will
definitely back you up for that but I
think I mean I think normally we would
send it to a third reading and then
decide if it would like to be tabled
then
you know Mr President they're they're
rationale behind this it just comes from
the fact that it's it was uploaded at
322. I know work was going into it I
know we all have other things going on
etc for this and certain I know that
we're getting feedback from our Council
on it but I mean I'm looking at this and
this is completely different as to what
we looked at last week and I didn't get
much time so I don't know that I
actually have had enough for a second
reading this to me seems like okay we're
working from scratch but that being said
to move it along I I guess we'll know
that I will need more time especially if
the next version of this whatever comes
to their next iteration is released on
you know the same day or even within a
couple days I'm going to me time the
process uh myself and so that's all I
just don't want to back myself into a
corner where I feel as though I have to
vote no because I I'm not comfortable
with it and we've gotten to that point
so well I understand tradition is after
the second reading I just want to pump
the brakes and see what this says then
maybe we get a second version and then
we call it a second reading but again if
the rest of the council would like to
move to the next step it's not offensive
in any way and I don't necessarily need
to break custom on that but
that's fine I'd like to make a motion to
table
um ordinance I don't even know what it
is
27 23. motion to table ordinance 2723 by
Ms fiebel second second but was it Matt
Matt Klingler seconded it
um I've
Mr President before you take a vote I'd
like to address some of the concerns
from that were raised as an
administrator okay if that's okay
sort of you asked for comment before
vote don't you not when it's tabled not
to table okay
all right
uh
um I think that's maybe what downtime
that's what we're getting here
I can remove I can move my spot okay
I'll remove my request to table you guys
can table it away I just feel like it's
it benefits from discussion as opposed
to just washing the topic but I'm not
supposed to talk right now so
say yep I'm good with that you're good
with that Matt I'm fine motion's
withdrawn I appreciate that
I was just I'm just following protocols
oh I understand that I'm not trying to
say I was raising my hand trying to I'm
sorry no I didn't I apologize I'm sorry
so I think um
several things have been brought up that
I want to address from an enforceability
administrative perspective and also
working with lorian on the ordinance
um but I want to start with
a reminder
that the movement right now around items
of environmental justice is moving
towards the concept of a Bill of Rights
for those of us who consume the
environment who are in the environment
who are impacted by the environments the
environmental Bill of Rights
is a
is gaining traction throughout the
country throughout the world the concept
that we have rights to a clean
environment right so we have rights to a
warm car that's free of ice and snow we
also have rights to a clean environment
and what comes out of a internal
combustion engine is poison it is
literally poisoned into our atmosphere
so I want to remind us of that
we talked a lot about enforceability
when we were drafting this
um and listened really closely to the
idea that there should be the
fundamental right to be able to
keep your car running unattended on your
private property and so that's
incorporated into this the idea of
having a 10 minute Mark is a it exists
in Ohio already in other areas
and B it would be a situation you
imagine how do we enforce the law eighty
percent of the 90 of the time it's
because somebody's called and complaint
and so mark fishel's my next door
neighbor and every freaking morning he's
out there just running his car because
that's what he likes to do he loves to
try out that remote start button and
it's a day
whatever the day is it's been running
for 20 minutes and I call it into the
police department and yeah we don't want
to be bad neighbors we don't want to
legislate good neighborliness but the
reality of the fact that ladies and
gentlemen is that we do have human
beings in this world who make poor
decisions
and they flaunt them and so the law
exists to protect everybody right and so
if there's a situation where somebody is
egregiously violating such as the
incident that lorianne witnessed
yesterday that would have been a
violation of this ordinance
they have the right to ask for
enforcement an enforcement would look
like this knock on the door Mr Fishel
are you aware that there's a limit on
the time that you can run your car oh I
didn't know that but now I do and turn
it off it wouldn't be a police officer
sitting there with a stopwatch it would
be because that's not what they want to
do they want to just educate and move on
if you're the problem go forward so it's
a really actually quite elegant way to
be able to effectuate the ordinance
without having to
be burdensome
um unless you had a repeat violator
which is not often the case most often
the case is
education and moving on
the thought with Heat versus cold is
that we focused on items that were
were tied to health and safety issues so
when my car is hot and I go into it I
can roll down the windows and
immediately cure that issue
it's not the most comfortable it could
possibly be but it is not unsafe for me
to be in that car right I don't have to
from a safety perspective cool down the
car in advance of entering the car
believe me I've got a dark dashboard
it's a heat sink it sucks roll down my
window it cools down a little bit so I
don't have to do it the same way with
ice and snow
you have to remove that safely before
you then enter the roadway and engage
with other drivers so that's that was
the concept of leaving out the hot
conditions and sticking to the cold
conditions so I just wanted to explain
that and give it background and that's
all I had and
the other idea I had was we could amend
this to take out everything except for
the animal thing
and then that would be the ordinance and
then you can introduce a new one that
just focus on Ireland
not tonight I mean we have 18 days until
our next councilman or you can just
table it let's go crazy but thank you
for allowing me fancy to provide the
revital I appreciate it
all right I feel like we got a lot of
things flying around here right now
um Lori and do you want to reintroduce
the table are you good with Where We Are
let's go let's get to Ella's party
all right let's just go let's do more
commotionally later okay sounds good all
right we're good where we are we're good
all right let's move on all right we are
on the second reading of resolution 4-23
to authorize the mayor to seek financial
assistance from the Ohio Public Works
commission for funding a various Capital
infrastructure Improvement projects MS
lamke
thank you so much Mr Fishel
um
mayor I think you briefly explained this
one at the last meeting
um
on my copy there's
there's some Bolding
um that's not an amendment right
no okay it's just in the original
I think it's just highlighting the stop
casting in Montrose in South Remington
okay we confirmed
South Remington is um
this is between
Mound and Charles I believe that they're
targeting I think I thought we were
still waiting to find that out uh well
this section was whether or not there's
another portion of Remington I was going
to ask our city engineer to present at
the next council meeting okay
um or Andy one of the two I'd be fine
with that so
um no consent agenda on this one then
um any other questions from Council
given that we'll have a presentation at
our next meeting
okay that's what we'll do
just making a note
all right we have first reading okay we
have a first reading of ordinance 29-23
to enter into an agreement with Saint
Charles Preparatory Academy or school as
the case might be as lorianne pointed
out to provide a Bexley police officer
to work as a school resource officer to
Saint Charles for the 2023 to 2024
school year introduced by Mr Marcelino
officer that is already at St Charles
Preparatory Academy uh we might not be
the exact same but it'll be the funds
will be the same there and uh they are
paying for it we are not so it's just a
renewal of what we already have in place
and I will note that I also find a
benefit to having a police car there in
the Saint Charles Drive as I do think it
slows people down as they're coming in
and out of the city as they may or may
not know whether somebody's in there so
does
[Laughter]
and
maybe you can park it on the median
so this is something that comes up if I
may yeah this is something that comes up
every year thanks to Natalie she
remembered it this year since well
that's better than I've done in the past
and so of course we're always be we
always seem to be a little behind
um
this this version of the ordinance
actually
would authorize the mayor to enter into
subsequent agreements as long as they're
on basically the substantially the same
terms so I just want to point that out
because that's a little inconsistent
with the with the actual title that I
read
um again it's obviously if you're
comfortable with that that's fine if
you're not then it could just be for
this calendar year
or a school year
and would probably would recommend
suspension and adoption because of in
fact we're in the school year already
suspension adoption on first reading
here that if you guys are comfortable
with it sure if not it certainly can be
done it's been done retroactively in the
past so that's totally your call
I mean my comment is I don't have any
problem with it it's just extends the
same agreement but go ahead Mr Clinton
just a quick question is that
indefinite into the future he can uh the
mayor he or she can authorize into
agreements that's what it's intended to
do so it doesn't have to come back every
year that's why I pointed that out
um obviously you always can say he can't
do it and the mayor can't do it anymore
well and it's not that our mayor
wouldn't but a future mayor if they
didn't want to continue the agreements
would it then come back to council and
we could approve the agreements I don't
know how I'm just looking into the
future we just if it's year over year we
just wouldn't approve this
so you're
I'm thinking like playing Devil's
Advocate right if Ben's not here and
whenever he stops wanting to be mayor or
or
or he doesn't get elected I'm just
kidding there's no
no I'm saying if if if if the mayor
should just table this for right now
if our mayor is not the mayor and in a
future mayor does not want to continue
the agreement and St Charles does would
it come back to then city council and
say yes we want to continue the future
city council wants to communicate
because I'm in favor of the languages
now I'm just thinking Devil's Advocate
down the road
when we're not here so I would have
presumed that Saint Charles in this
scenario wants to continue it but I
won't sign it
then the Saint Charles can come to
council and be like hey
we want to have this agreement but the
mayor's not signing it what's up you can
legislate
requiring the mayor to execute an
agreement then we need a super majority
considering if you're going to oh that's
true yeah one of these days man
again again I'm not saying this mayor
I'm saying what none of us are here in
the future I'm just thinking like what
happens then what he said is correct
what the mayor just said that that that
city council could legislate that mayor
could veto it and you'd override his
veto okay or vice versa
yes just so it usually comes to US every
year
and we're just trying to change it so
that it won't it's supposed to I think
we might have skipped a year but yes
okay that's the issue this is still uh
did you I'm sorry what your question was
was
this changing it to go so this is just
still changing it to an annual
thing at 22. you wouldn't come back in
front of us it will come right no the
language says this is a one-year deal
but you're authorizing the mayor to
continue the same one-year deal and
subsequent instead of it coming back to
you and that's why I pointed that out
because if you wanted to come back to
you we can easily change that language
right now in section two and amend it I
got it
yeah yeah go ahead what was the date the
last agreement ended do we need that you
do we need retroactive language in here
well this would cover it this the
agreement would cover it the last
agreement was effective essentially
August 1st till July 31st it was passed
because I looked at this recently by
City Council on August 22nd with
actually one year ago today
okay all right I'm sorry go ahead finish
here so it sounds like we wouldn't need
that language in here if it passes as
written
right
we don't need any language to make a
retroactive it covers this this school
year which is we're good so one of the
questions though that we're that we
really are are kind of coming at back
and forth here is section two we can
take that out if we want to make this an
annual thing that we have to come before
us and vote on and think about and renew
as is you're right it would be like and
we wouldn't see it anymore it would be
going on it would be in the mayor's
hands the mayor then would decide you
know what to do back and forth but
theoretically if the mayor did not
continue it and St Charles wanted to do
it they would come to us and say hey
yeah
we would like for you to continue this
and we would write up our version of
this Etc yeah just to be clear I'm in
favor of the language it isn't currently
stated okay just asking if it's not
us here I think that's a great point you
know I I just think what he does that's
good we're cognizant of what we're doing
here because we don't have to do that we
can remove that and then right every
year would come up and we can sit here
and say
etc etc
oh yeah
uh and on the other hand like if
if it were getting repeated every year
in council's like hold on we don't want
to do that you always can come back and
just change the ordinance so that it
doesn't know how to do it yeah
but
where is it at
me
it's uh the second line of section the
first section two
sounds
as long as they are the same are on
substantially the same terms legally
that's a good point legally what do we
what are we just saying there
experiments are do you mean
substantively
I mean instantly the intention in the
language was that if there are commas
and grammar and different things that
that don't affect the substantive
portion of the agreement that we
wouldn't have to come back to council
um yeah sorry I mean I think it can just
simply say on the same such agreement is
on the same on the same terms as the
2023-24 agreement that should be
sufficient and if anything's going to
change of any significance then it comes
back to council right so what lauriana's
kind of ask you there I think is like if
the mayor decides that we're going to
pay 10 of it all of a sudden is that
what's the definition of substantial you
know if there's
yeah I mean that's right if it doesn't
pay the full cost it has to come back
together okay 100 but again I I mean we
can you can easily just say provided
such agreement Agreements are uh are uh
reflect the same terms as the 2020 324
agreement doesn't that seem like a
better way to say that that's fine
substantially it seems like I'm with
lorianne I don't know I don't know what
that means okay that's fine I don't have
a problem with that well that's what
we're paying you for but like
and the reason I put it in there is
because lawyers that that's that's
common lawyer language to say so so so
so so that way again if it comes back
and you know who knows was minor things
might get changed that's why we use that
language so that's why I'm comfortable
with it but if you're not if you're not
comfortable with it then you should and
whatever you know yeah I'm just looking
at our lawyers and they're they're act
like they're happy
all right yes ma'am
like relative cost increase was there
just a cost of living increase or
whatever the
it's just police officer increase like
calculated based upon their rate so yeah
so we're good as long as we approve the
police or the union we get into we're
good with
three percent or whatever you know what
I mean whatever that whatever is not
okay I would have to agree to it but and
I'm I'm fine with float yeah
oh whose is this
oh
substantially it's yours substantially
all right
[Laughter]
uh sure do you want me to suspend the
three reading rule
I don't think we have any need to do
that it doesn't sound like it
nobody section two section two
oh that that we do need to that's just
change the typo though
uh motion to suspend the three reading
rule for ordinance
29-23 by Mr Marcelino second second by
Miss feibel uh Mr McPeak
massage yes Miss Robinson Mr Markham yes
Mr Marcelino Mr Klingler yes Miss Lampe
yes it's viable yes motion to suspend
the three rooting rule passes
motion two
adopt uh ordinance
next second uh motion to adopt by Mr
Marcelino second by Miss sad was that
you all right all right Mr McPeak Mr
Marcelino yes Miss Liam key yes Assad
yes Mr Markham yes Miss viable yes Mr
Klingler yes Miss Robinson
ordinance passes all right I'm assuming
no uh action on table with ordinances
probably more we have two more there
were these two oh I don't have that's
the dangerous vicious one okay okay oh
what are your thoughts about me not
doing and you're not talking a bit more
about uh 30 and 23 okay
uh 5c abortion I'm concerned with don't
read it or you want to amend it I want
to remove it but yeah yeah I don't feel
comfortable introducing it currently so
I think you need to make a motion to
amend the agenda to remove
ordinance 30-23 just to be clear I would
uh move to amend the agenda to remove
ordinance 30-23
at this time seeing the fact that I
believe that there's some additional
work that needs to go so moved
okay all right so moved I'll second that
uh all in favor say aye
aye aye all opposed same sign all right
let's remove that from the agenda uh no
reading for tonight for that one just
yeah
okay so then we do have a first reading
of ordinance 31-23 to establish the
Bexley Senior Services fund to receive
donations to be used for senior services
for bexley's residents senior citizens
MS lamke
thank you Mr Fishel this ordinance
establishes that we can have a special
Revenue fund that accepts donations to
be used for senior services for our
resident senior citizens
huh
any questions
first reading yep
all right if not we'll move on past that
into tabled ordinances
uh I don't think there's any action on
tabled ordinances and that person's just
not saying anything so we can move to
finance committee report
um one thing
given that we're coming up on budget
season traditionally we have sometimes
met about an hour before a council
meeting to discuss our wants and needs
and
kind of put on things that we think are
important in the budget we were thinking
that maybe Tuesday September 26th at 5
PM which would be an hour in advance of
our normally scheduled council meeting
at six
uh yep Tuesday September 26th how does
that work for everybody
yep works well for me
sound good all right we'll put that on
Natalie 5 PM for that put that on that
would be great
um start thinking now about what's
important to you and what you'd like to
discuss then thanks and the report thank
you
um safety and health Sam Marcelino
support thank you
uh strategic Jen Robinson
the Strategic plan uh
presenting this part of this strategic
plan to uh not open the community
um so you will be receiving a Google
home from me uh for more meetings she
doesn't love me
we definitely want to get one but just
cancel what we can go through and kind
of go and make sure that the document
looks exactly the way we want to and
then I'll be working with the mayor too
that's a helpful discussion with the
community so look for that uh it should
be coming from you tomorrow thank you
uh zoning and development Mr Klingler
just a couple things the mayor touched
on in his uh reports we do have some
upcoming meetings with bizap ARB some
projects of note are on there
um we have the Visa meeting coming up
this Thursday also kudos to the mayor in
our front yard corner lot study group
we've made this past week we made more
Headway than ever so uh we're getting
somewhere on it and he's doing a great
job leading that meeting so kudos to the
mayor
uh
end of report thank you service
environmental MS fiebel
um our big um uh jazz in the park smoke
and fire is the Saturday night please
come and join us and take to have a
taste of some fabulous barbecue
I can't remember it's like help me I
knew somebody's gonna ask five to uh
yeah I had to get it five to ten five to
ten
come
yeah
oh man
that's kind of a
not great image right now recreation in
Parks Jessica sod
yes uh Wednesday September 6th is our
next Rec meeting at City Hall
um we have a another meeting for our
Jeffrey Mansion preservation committee
which I need to make sure I'm
um keeping you guys up to date on this
uh group of individuals will be setting
the blueprint for our future generations
for Jeffrey Mansion so it's an important
group we meet next Tuesday August 29th
at 4 pm at City Hall and wanted to
remind the group here that um the
community campout still has spots so
please register
um that will take place on September 8th
and 9th
I will be out there come join me you
can't are you camping is that what
you're saying you'll be out there
camping or out there and urging people
to camp
we will see TBA Adam said it to me this
year but um we will see
your last chance
all right
surprisingly none of the public stuck
around to hear all this legislative if I
may if I if I might have Mr President
just real quick sure so I mean I just
want to say that you guys I mean I
represent a lot of cities and counties
throughout the state you guys do a
really good job I mean in all
seriousness it's the the amount of
thought and effort and conscientiousness
I mean I know a kid around these
meetings once in a while sorry again
that's who I am but you guys really do a
good job it's very impressive we I know
I have a different point of view than a
lot of citizens but citizens should be
very thankful they are in all serious
well because I'm biased I meant because
I'm biased and I already am thankful but
everybody else I mean seriously no we
don't care what they say about you too
we think you're good
yeah I don't have to run for a
re-election it was a it was not meantime
I appreciate that uh motion to adjourn
again all in favor aye aye we're out of
here