but you know that's probably probably
that is probably she right now because
remember she's
I hate working on
Max they give me a uh
thank you
the only real new thing is the blow up
which my daughter bought for me two
years ago for Christmas because every
year I go to l and a picture of the most
not blow say I'm buying that this year
and so they called my block they called
your block but when your kids buying
something do you see on North cassingham
Stanwood in North rington there's a
Santa Claus in front of almost every
house oh really like they got
together yeah yeah yeah I mean it's
funny because it started with a
residential complaint and then they all
teamed together and said let's all do it
so someone complained about it BL I said
it was UN just distasteful and wasn't
good for
Bexley nice so now there's a about 150
of them on
stwood well if they complain about a
Santa Claus I'd love to hear what they
say about the Die Hard set up the
skeleton no you
know oh yeah P
pits
scar okay ready
understand he was supposed to but maybe
he's not I don't
know
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right
meeting laste 24 season and let me call
the mar MC is probably as you speak BL
in
Califor Quint here
here Williams here Jim Wilson pres up
next where she is Charlie
flower okay bar Giller ultimate here ay
young alate here um Ellen B is also on
Florida Larry hman is ex official and
Ellen is ex official so as staff we have
the um I was trying to think what
adjective to use so I'll just
say about Irreplaceable
as and we have a so let us move on to
review of the minutes of November 20th
2024 I have reviewed them Jim has
reviewed them they were sent to you I'll
think a motions from
people
appr discuss motion made second approve
november24 all those in favor to say
I Mo carries uh we have no landscape
applications to today does that make
anyone
sad okay no all right and we have no
comments that I see so so I would like
to um mention that uh as I had explained
to Charlie that in honor of everyone's
incredible diligence and expert Services
I have made a donation to The beex
Community Foundation um and they have
bought these SP
in your honor that that were wrapped and
if you want to decorate them with
whatever you want to decorate they
will or growing a tree or box Grant if
you have any tree questions something
like that so we need to resubmit them
take them to the Jeffrey mans no I will
do that tomorrow so you just can
decorate it here you can pass down some
of her color
pencil the coloring and how do we go if
you don't have time to do it I think
they will suffice as if you want to add
a
personal so um I did I got to ask for
the
agenda okay on we go so we are looking
at announ some small victories I will
start with the end of your summary of
the
best season um we as Bexley bloomers and
celebrity Bloomers donated 884 hours to
the greater city of Bexley our total
over four years is 3,000 Plus
hours and you real volunteer terms they
kind of volunteer hours we have donated
more than
$100,000 so we also have um a Pras for
backing update on fundraising and grants
that's supposed to be attached to your
agenda mentioned post so I'm not sure
how this not that not that one more one
more got December January
programs right away press That's is all
I
got
um
gosh that this is the Dropbox for our
meeting so if it's not on here I don't
know where it would be
we should
be is it this yes there you go thank you
so much okay so here's here's the
fundraising so far to Ving um as you may
remember we had indicated Grant we to
raise $40,000 to plant fre in the coming
year we've so far raised
34363 on7 donors $340 average gift last
year we were you know $3,000 behind
where we are this year so
that's
terrific and then is there anything
below that grant that would give the
total and the season with almost
$18,000 15
sh2000 so between those
two City
$58,000 okay so Al yeah you know we have
people in beex that love the community
and love the community and love GS and
what one of our friends Phil Waterman
has put together a slide presentation of
interesting aspects of our Liv for us
and um he is willing to share that with
us not in a regular meeting but for
those who are interested and Jim and I
have committed to to it and I'm going to
just read what he wrote to me so you'll
know sort of the nature of it he said
the slides came about following my
concern over the drought and subsequent
suggestions I had um uh then it goes on
seems the best measure would be to show
uh some of these ideas by slides most of
them deal with means and approaches City
could take to contend best with
environmental stresses such as a climing
model and suggestion for
speaking so um if you're interested let
me know I'll send out a note i' sure
that your time is probably um you're
probably not like 4:30 on a
weekday okay I don't know I just want
see and then we can find work around
yeah it's not gonna be
today Jim I know calendar is busy busy
busy so he's probably looking at
somewhere in in the gy hopefully
hopefully hopefully that's right so
that's what I get
question so are someone
not always okay and Grant is there any
uh do you have any interest if it's
available during the time that you're
yeah for sure so I'll be back in touch
with Bill he's a very keen server and um
and certainly a a prover and expert in
right and then the last thing for an of
small victories is I marry on I me to
mention again that the total produce
given by the fley community gardens
P brought to crory was 1,225 pound this
year and the total for the for over the
10 years is
10,000 that's five T right good any
other announcements or small
victories all right on we go Grant it's
your turn to tell us all about the year
reviews okay so the cities fall planting
is going
well um again with all the rains and
stuff this is why I prefer to plant in
the spr uh the fall and not so much in
the spring so they're getting two rainy
Seasons uh the trees on Broad Street
were planted uh along with the trees on
Park View I don't know if you've driven
those two streets yet but infill has
happened uh we did Spencer was in charge
of that he did not know the rule of not
planting trees on Drexel Circle so we
will be removing those trees that were
planted on Drexel
server
um other than that the trees throughout
the city it's all going well we haven't
had just have a few complaints but
honestly it's been a pretty smooth
season the trees are looking healthy and
happy
and uh so that's all good um a
suggestion so a few months ago we talked
about the tree on Denver uh this in the
North End is a cork tree which nurseries
are no longer growing you can't find
them anywhere so is that because they
declared evasive I don't know that
they've been declared evasive I'm not
sure maybe they're just not Lo well
again a nursery has to put a 10-year
investment into a tree before they get
any money back and if the tree wasn't
selling then they just sto sto growing
it uh Denver is funny so it has three
different rideways so if you're at
Drexel to Stanberry there's probably an
eight foot
treelon and then if you go from
Stanberry to Cassidy it's probably a
foot and a half tree laon and then from
Cassidy to Gould you have about a two
and a half foot tree laon so again if
we're only picking one tree per Street
we need to pick a tree that could
potentially uh hit all those parameters
or we can have a larger tree for the p
of Denver that that will hold up a
larger tree versus something further
east that is going to be a smaller
species of tree but I was you know this
would be a good homework assignment for
tree commission over the holidays to
think about what tree would be a good
selection for that
street I I haven't had time to have a
recommendation but I think it would be
fun if tree commission came up with a
recommendation I mean yeah
we if we're considering an experiment to
avoid the so-called M culture maybe
Denver is a place to think about that
yeah well that that brings me to mtros
Elementary uh which what's
that uh which Audrey and I met with each
other last week she had come up with
some suggestions with which I think are
pretty cool so um on Remington so manro
is in the South End if people aren't
familiar with the
schools uh so it's Remington Mound and
montros are the
streets uh We've suggested um a Smoke
Tree uh on the Remington side the
current Street tree planting there is a
silver
Linden on Mound currently we are
planting horse
chestnuts uh we're thinking about
potentially using smoke the Smoke Tree
form on uh Mound and then on
mantros uh is a forest pansy red bud and
we are currently planting the tartarian
mapel so I think this would be something
we would have to vote on um for tree
commission if we want to try to
introduce these new uh trees to this
this school and um and then after that
once we get approval that of switching
the species then a and I will get
together and come up with a final plan
for the streets question the Smoke Tree
they were shrub are they now there's a
tree form Smoke Tree yes and we were
thinking either the royal purple or the
straight
American so this is sort of a
combination of being a canopy tree and a
umet what you call it ornamental tree is
that right T we looking for something
between uh it can be it can be either
way um I know there what there's power
lines on Mound right so we would have to
think about Mound and that's where we
introduced the smoke bush there uh there
isn't too much on the other two streets
but it is a what a three foot RightWay
so you can't get anything huge yes
correct
no it's a single
stem so do you have any sense of how
many bacon seeds there are
for yes so on her report we were
thinking possible um 12 possible
additions four removals of some of the
trees that aren't doing so
well no there a black um a lot of the
trees that are underneath power lines
and I think there's a uh a maple a
smaller Amir Maple that probably should
be
removed well any First Impressions about
the
suggestion it's the red it's the red red
bud
way was to introduce in contrast to all
the yellow color and then Le shape all
different
shap yeah and then we we would label
these for maybe an arborium
Feature Future when they get
Bigg this are you focused on Fall
plantings or would you try some St uh I
would probably do a fall planting
yes so I would suggest that um since we
now have species to consider that we
research those and walk that area
individually and see how those
suggestions feel set
sound I can drive yeah I
know I handed in my scooter but it may
have been too early
Jim how does that sound to you sounds
great okay okay um I think the horse
chestnuts have done pretty well there
I'm unclear L have the Lyons have done
well there's not too many lindens on
that stretch of Remington uh the the
horse chestnuts get scorched now the
last year they didn't really get that
much
Scorch uh but they usually in the past
have just really browned out too there
just the lack of water you know there's
a lot of things that cause Scorch
humidity heat all that so but they still
they look great they're doing well I
mean so it's kind of like a crab apple
that looks great for the first three
weeks and then it's like what happened
should I cut it down also one note this
mention on Denver Island there's power
lines on the North
side so you might have to do something
like we do on Colombia where we have the
paper bark Maples on the east side and
then on the North side or like VI Versa
yeah so do anybody have any questions
brand about the fall planting are you
happy with the
trees and of
almost H very just the the few that I
brought up to
yeah right it is
that's yeah
get a list of these trees we all get
them WR down
me and the last tree commission meeting
this was agenda was on the
agenda so you can go back to that or I
can scan it yes
and okay any any other questions for
Grant nothing br are you g to get away
with questions
yeah right thank you Shea I appreciate
you okay so thank you for doing that AA
thank you for helping out appreciate it
uh Jim do you want to talk about the
tree planting and maintenance plan sure
um so I'll start by saying that I
believe when I said I take this on I
said we'd get it done by last April and
Susan laughed at me that laughter was
well
um we haven't done a whole lot of work
recently mostly because I've been the
bottleneck here because of the rest of
my life um but I I believe that we are
pretty far along my intention is to
circulate a draft to our little working
group um probably over the holidays with
no expectation that no one that anyone
will look at it until after the holidays
and then maybe we'll meet one more time
and I think think we could bring
something back I think some places we
may just make
recommendations to the city study things
rather than try to figure out every
single issue out there um I think
intersecting with that to some degree is
um and you'll see this in my next item
is the issue that the mayor raised um in
our last meeting about plannings behind
the sidewalk and and the differing
interpretations of our ordinances and
different views on Defence to
Residents um there um the current draft
that I have actually has some language
um that would give us right of control
over new plannings behind the sidewalk
and that may be controversial I don't
know um but that's one area that that
probably a little roou to talk about in
terms of how specifically we want to be
in this plan and that may make more
sense when I do my next
presentation um so sort of help us all
have a common understanding of what our
role is with respect to the right of way
and how the varying ordinances fit
together at least in my view in terms of
decisions
around you want go to I would love to if
um if Brant doesn't and then pulling up
my very fancy PowerPoint
here I've demonstrated that I can find
Art um showing a wrer play seeing
showing how much people enjoy their wrer
play with their
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dogs all right you'll note that I did I
did not select a picture of the dog
enjoying the right of way in an
inappropriate
way
um um Grant if you can just go to the
next one so you know just I think most
of us know this but right way refers to
the land that set aside for public use
such as streets roads sidewalks and
alleys um they're typically owned by
governmental entities and we'll come
back to that and are accessible to the
general public so that's the sort of
starting point that we're talking about
we go to the next slide this is um an
illustration I found on the internet to
maybe help us sort of see what the
segments of the right of way are I think
a lot of people think of the RightWay is
just the roadway and obviously that's
part of the right of way but you'll see
on both sides and it's a little clearer
on the right side that you know in
varying instances the right of way well
the right of way I think always extends
to as far as the sidewalk in as far I
you know at least on streets that have
sidewalks correct um and a lot of people
people I think assume that the RightWay
ends at the sidewalk but um for some
streets in Bexley and I have a list that
will see it in few minutes um it extends
past the sidewalk and that's those sort
of divisions of it are kind of important
in terms of how our ordinances play into
the right of so we go to the next one J
would be nice if you got an
accurate not very
hope never
dies when I when I win the Power Ball
and it has a billion dollar pot I'm
gonna bury all the power lines in
Beckley I make that commitment to you
right now we are being we are being
taped you know unfortunate thing is you
have to buy a ticket to
win right well I know I'm sick into my
commitment if I win a million dollar in
the Power Ball
so so rways can get created in different
ways um uh the way cities get organized
and Sheila may know this is that that
flat Maps get submitted to the city and
accepted um and often designate the
portions of the plat being dedicated for
necessary streets and beyond that the
RightWay some instances I'm not sure
that if bei's ever done this the
RightWay can be taken by mnet domain and
then the city can acquire an easement um
from the residents um but wouldn't own
that uh you go to the next slide um at
least in my research um just to fully
demonstrate the kind of nerd I am I went
to the the county recorder's office and
tried to find as many many of the plat
maps for Bexley as I could find and
they're not easy to find it's pretty
easy to find uh you know the the need
for someone's individual lot but it's
much harder to find the plat Maps but
there I found most of them and I know
that the the one of the challenges of
these old plat Maps is it's not H
Britain it's someone who was assumed to
have neat handwriting whose information
is in there but for most of Bexley all
right ways were dedicated when the flap
Maps were submitted and at least under
my reading of Ohio law that means that
the RightWay is actually owned by the
city it was dedicated for the public use
and there's a statute that says in Ohio
that where right of ways were dedicated
as part of a plat map that the uh the
legal term is the city owns it in fee
which means that that is owned by the
state now I haven't talked to Mark or
Katherine Cunningham about their views
about that but that's what I found in my
research um would you just say it's
owned by the state the city the city the
municipality to whom it's dedicated so
okay
that's is this Comm that we see in the
middle uh yeah it's Commonwealth but
instead of being oriented like North and
South like you would expect this is the
circle part there is drexal circle um
and then that's Broad Street sort of
with its not NE not quite
perpendicular um aspect to um Dawson
Drexel um um I guess at the time that
was
dedicated that it was called Dawson
North of Broad which I don't know when
that changed U the other streets the
names haven't
changed and you know it's called
standard
right um so at least that's my
understanding of of the city's
relationship in Bexley to this right of
way so if we can go to the next slide um
it sort of covered this but wanted to
reiterate it in the context of our
particular ordinances so the street um
it obviously is the portion of the right
way intended for bicular traffic and is
as beex it becomes fight friendly often
Fikes um the Tron um is the what our
ordinances call the area outside of the
street itself um and one of the issues
um that the mayor's pointed out is we've
got two different definitions of Tron in
um our our city ordinances in chapter
10:26 with with I I know everyone in the
commission is deeply familiar um but
that's the one that
really has been in place sort of since
the tree commission was created since
the late 19
1990s and it defines the the tree lawn
as extending from the curb all the way
to wherever the adjacent property owner
land
begins um the other chapter that
addresses this is the next one which is
chapter
1027 which is a fairly recent one that's
the one you were those of you that have
been around the commission for um a
decade or a little less remember we had
some discussion about plan around trees
and the mayor um did some work and city
council adopted an ordinance about what
could be planted and there it only
applies to the area between the curb and
the sidewalk so the narrower stretch the
the part that most people I think tend
to think of as the tree one so we've got
two different definitions which is sort
of part of it um that doesn't I don't
think for for those streets um where the
Treon goes behind the sidewalk we'll get
there in a minute 1026 is sort of
like the one of the things that we'll
get to that we need to clear up exactly
what that means in terms of our
Authority the city's Authority the
property owner Authority U so if we
could go to the next
slide um basically here's and um this is
just kind of a high level breakdown of
the responsibilities between the city
and ourselves so the city um under 10
26.03.2013 shrubs and Evergreens and
note that it's the city that has the
authority to plant um as much as I know
the tree commission members would like
to do all the planting themselves the
city actually does that but we'll come
back to that sort of in a minute in
terms of how that interacts with our
Authority um and in
1027 it's the city that has the
exclusive right to plant trees and
shrubs between the street and the
sidewalk so the narrower definition of
Tree Lawn only the city can plant there
according to our current ordinances not
it doesn't specifically say in the
broader definition of Treon that only
the city can plant there um our um
Authority also not only comes from 1026
but also comes from uh 288 of of our
ordinances which is the the section of
our code called the
administrative function and that's where
um our tree commission is authorized and
then our responsibilities are given so
one of the things that we do which we're
in the process of doing is uh develop a
written plan for municipal care and
planning program one of the questions is
what's that mean in terms of the city's
authority to
plan um is the does do they follow our
planning program well it hasn't been an
issue because at least as long as I've
been on the commission I don't think
we've had a written planning program but
as we develop one that's one of the
things that we'll have to work out um
and then the other is um and we've
always done this is to establish the
recommended species and varieties of
trees and man uh major Landscaping to be
planted in tree Lawns and public gardens
so at least my reading of that is um
when the city plants to plant the
species that we've desicated on that
list and I think that's what grants
always done um so um and then um some of
our other areas of responsibility are to
assure satisfactory replacement of trees
and shrubs removed from the Tree Lawn
this is one an area that will I think be
part of the conversation about these
ordinances um because because um right
now it's mandatory unless we exent a
particular spot in the treeon that a
tree removed be
replaced um and that you know that sort
of connects with the issue that the
mayor raised last time that we mentioned
to city council which is that's an area
where trees were removed Grant went to
replace them and so um Grant did exactly
what the ordinance said he was supposed
to do and and um so and then we took the
action last month to least defer those
plantings and that'll be on our spring
agenda I so the other is to approve a
request to remove any tree or shrub in a
public Street park or public place I.E
the infamous American sweet gum
controversies over the years that is if
someone was unhappy with a sweet gum
they had to come to us we created a
program for that but any other tree we
deal with it Grant brings them our way
when there's a request to remove a tree
in the tree lawn it's our responsibility
and then lastly is to cause removal of
any tree or shrub planted
inconsistently with this chapter um and
that um invol includes like the
prohibited species which one of the
things I've discovered in conversation
with the mayor is actually shrubs are
prohibited so we need to figure out that
issue in conversation with the city
because right now technically if someone
plants a shrub even in that area between
the sidewalk and their property line um
that it doesn't even say we can approve
the planning of a shrug it says it's a
prohibited species so that's one of the
issues that we need to we need to
consider if you could go to the next
ingredient I mentioned earlier that
there are you know a fair number of
Street streets um with more than 5 ft of
R we behind the sidewalk and um I can't
guarantee that this is completely
accurate because I know that Matt was
continually updating but this was taken
from a list that Matt had given um that
showed that breakdown on the right of
way between what the street width was
what was uh um behind the sidewalk and
so this is at least my attempt to sort
of create a list of where there's more
than5 ft behind the RightWay and at
least the Takeover for me is there's a
lot of areas in Bexley where right now
we um we have the opportunity to plant
and part of the conversation we need to
have is how we work that out um
consistent with keeping people inxy
happy but also not losing the
opportunity to plant in places and um so
we we go to the next slide
um um the the flip side of the question
is what's the property owners uh or the
adjacent property owner
responsibility um between the seat
Street and sidewalk this goes back to uh
section
1027 um they have to maintain the tree
lawn as a grass or lawn area with the
grass not to exceed 8 in in pipe there's
nothing there's nothing in that the
section on the other side about grass
height but there's an overall I think
building code section that says everyone
has to keep their grass under 8 inches T
so if you only want to mow a couple
times next summer you can go to 8 inches
but um you one of the areas here is that
you can mulch or plant flowers in a
three- foot radius around trees I think
we've touched on whether that's
necessarily the right place that
uh things should be planted but that's
another area for conversation about our
current
ordinances um the property owners can't
plant the prohibited species we've
touched on that um if there's
construction going on um they can't they
have to protect the trees um and then
they can't damage trees in the tree lawn
and they their own trees if they're
planted close enough to the sidewalk
they have to prune them to avoid
instructing the sidewalk and they have
to remove diseased treason I think
sometimes Grant advises them on when a
tree should be removed uh if you could
go to the the next one excuse me but
we're not the citizen is not allowed to
trim a city Tru that's
correct I suggested the equivalent of a
Citizens Police Academy fory to grant
that he
was he didn't think I'd
sterilize
right um so I think there's some
underlying questions that the tree
commission needs to think about and um I
probably should have said this the
beginning we've talked to the mayor and
um uh council president lamb key has
asked three members of council um um uh
to engage in a conversation with Susan
and I um and the mayor and Matt and uh
you know Grant probably and I don't
think we've formally figured out exactly
who's going to be
part of that for the city but or maybe
you have mayor but um um you know this
is background that we'll probably share
with them but um some of the underlying
questions would be you know what's our
understanding of land that's been
dedicated to the city um as a former
history major I I tend to think of it as
something like the common it used to
exist in um at least in the UK um for
the so-called clearing of the commons
when private people took over the public
lands but is that the right way to think
about it um is it different than public
parks and the like in terms of how we
think about the use of land in the right
of way um and then what voice should
adjacent property owners have with
respect to such lands which is the issue
that um the mayor brought up last month
and the city council had a brief convers
ation about and that's I think one of
the reasons that President L's asked
some members of council to have a
conversation looking at our ordinances
in that regard um then the obvious
question is do we have different views
of the space between the street and the
sidewalk and Bas on the other side of
the sidewalk and is it the same view for
every street or do we have different
views depending on the width of the
right of way behind the sidewalk um you
know what are the respective roles of
the commission and City staff I think
we've had good working relationship but
is there any need for clarification
there and I think that'll be useful to
hear from Grant in terms of where does
he get questions where if any where he's
not clear whether he should bring it to
us or just deal with it um and then the
question I always put in every
presentation what are we not asking that
we need to ask um so this is hopefully
helpful back background I think this is
a conversation that we will continue um
you know we welcome your input I think
Susan and I have been designated to have
this conversation with the members of
city council but we I think we'll be
back to you with questions as the
conversation evolves and you know I
think what it's going to lead to
but is perhaps some revision of our
curent
ordinances and you know um I'm always
happy to talk ordinances if anyone wants
to talk ordinances but I think these are
important issues and my view of the
world is it's always easy to draft an
ordinance if you know what you want to
accomplish with it and I think it would
be good for the tree commission to start
thinking about you know how how do we
balance these competing priorities of
our city where you know we want we don't
want residents to feel like the tree
commission or you know the the uh you
know the folks imposing things on them
but conversely there's huge
opportunities as we talked about
maximizing the plantings within the city
uh for plantings behind the side so I'm
happy that uh answer questions hear
thoughts I think um we are in one of our
meetings where we are not press for
agenda so
okay okay you can questions
so does anybody have any thoughts just
that I guess my first thought is like
meshing the initiatives
across all the different purposes you
know like the Jeffrey management
management plan should us with the tree
Vis and common space
Vision so I think if it is a common
space
Vision then not the adjacent land it's
every
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everyone and in order for people to
align survey and understand very
thoughtful system has challenging but
you and in with an appropriate survey
you can understand why people have
positions that they bu you know are they
interested in retaining their property
value are they interested in Aesthetics
or do they understand what science
underling
right and so I think that
asking
asking constituents and citizens with
their positions are give you full F to
respond to draft ordinances at the ler
right so I think that that's just a gut
thought like my experience is in these
large process necessity you know
balancing from the top down and
botom I think a lot of time
bot so
um trying to hear well said I always
thought about the current state
comp may not based proba not
based but I have opinion
I
so is there a place in the survey box
for Education prior to survey totally
because otherwise all you did is well
you but there I think you need to be
empowered with knowledge and so you
could say the horest canopy in vac has
defined at a rate of X the percentage of
trees that are healthy is down right
like present information that gets
somebody to understand why maintaining
health for is essential this is for
related with higher property values
higher standard of living better help
right so if if we can kind of guide
people into understanding why they might
want to care for these assets we on
thinking that big brother is interested
in controlling tree have you know then I
think that we can craft the dialogue and
more passion so and that's where it's
it's scary to ask people what they want
um but but I think that like we've done
social surveys where we've looked at um
green infrastructure in Chicago and
we've surveyed community members um
University campus constituents and
businessmen and everyone is actually
interested in the Alternatives which
then beg question how do you have like
status quo we have like a couple
construction companies that run it right
like we don't have status quo because
like we actually ask people what they
want and like Drive diversity out we
have
status these things right so I think
that if
you know those surveys kind of indicate
that every would donate time they would
donate resources they like the
Alternatives they would be interesting
and more thoughtful processes they got
people that they wanted and that was
across the board so then people seem to
be comfortable with dialogue and and
thoughtful delays and processes and you
know
around so I think that you know I
obviously you there's there's knowledge
that should be weighed maybe slightly
more heavily than than certain
perspective but you know I think that
it's good to at least know what people
want because if everybody says we like
green canopies and we like these
approaches then you can write the
anding um but if or you could say 88% of
people were
support
pretty I think it's when you're split
though that you have to be concerned and
I think that's where he might say that
like people like green you know open
spaces and people understand value in
Forest canopy but they're not willing to
compromise well if you were going to
give people
10 facts empirical based on on real
numbers not on this is what I true what
would be those 10 pieces of information
about
trees environment sustainability
openes oh yeah yeah
totally I can email yeah yeah totally
would that be of interest to the
absolutely be great you know all the
information you were presenting I
think in s good for us to Rie over the
years of what has happened with in a
it's too much information
I would do five and that's it you're
get all
that
iose you made two Salient points and I
think you know at least three people are
like you know what yeah I would buy in
for that
but but I can see all this relationship
this works for
City Place comes down but how do you get
the
homeowner to get they don't they don't
know a right away from anything I mean
I'm not getting critical about that
that's just not something that they and
I know it's on drawings I know it's on
whatever but I think people do a lot of
planning total innocence you know what
they're what they're doing so how you
notify and how you get the public to buy
into
thaton okay well good so I did
that so so as a realator do you do you
reviewes with with residents they when
it's when it's obvious that it may be
a I would say most people have no idea
really
innocently lovingly planting for the
beauty of
living I think I'm very guilty of it and
I worried a lot being on the commission
the mayor probably could arest me for
my Landscaping in
the that's in the ordinance I could
personally arrest you
actually will
awkward that a daily
find so so it's it's not I mean you know
I just remember going for the and
pointing out all those things that are
you know just part of the plan and most
people they
original and you know back when probably
bought your house years ago we it was a
whole different El of information that
was provided and now it's all about the
internet and quick exposure and people
running house just you know not clearly
understanding that whole
process but they do see the value in the
tree about that
well I think that's a good point there
Sheila is that if people approach these
things as disposable assets and they're
transferable quickly that it leads
precisely the value of the tree
condition to make sure that that can
Beed right because the aestic ofy
isy there any other questions you want
to reue here discussions no I think this
been a useful conversation I Accord to
Charlie's email and uh if Sheil has any
ability to sort of quantify the value of
Street trees um when people are looking
at homes or looking at C homes that
would be great and then you know we'll
engage in this conversation with the
with the folks that council president n
has designated as our conversation
partners and with the with folks in the
city and um I'm confident of one thing
we will be back with more
questions so um Jim referenced this
conversation with the mayor introduced
at the city council meeting and I
checked in it was on November 19th at
the city council meeting and you can you
want to review the information it's
likee
14
it's so it's been been AR so that kind
of sets up some of the the questions and
discussions that have been pursued since
so we talk about what in January
after okay let's see Jim any more
questions for Jim I I do actually and
it's what we were talking about last
time grantant was mentioning that that
the person didn't want the tree and and
so you pulled it or you're planning to
pull it and I was trying to think of
other Solutions I know our goal is to
have can for our city but what we were
to um foro our all of our ultimate goals
to have City trees but me on city
property but what if we were able to get
them to plant the tree the back because
ultimately we do want to have canopy
that's the most important value that we
have to the environment so could we
actually say would you like it in your
backyard because they may be more
inclined to take care of it I don't
think we can do that under the current
ordinances but it's an idea that could
be considered where ordinances are RIS
so this the city funds that can't be
spent on private
property I would say the
$40,000 that that we're giving to Grant
how do you like those Grant from the
Community
Foundation I would be a little bit taken
back City plan buy $500 GI Charli
backyard
but if we're finding ourselves desperate
to
trees a
lot well I mean that's what the whole
Arbor Day um tree giveaway is is to
plant trees and people's yards and
backyards yes it doesn't have to be a
front yard back it's everywhere and
we're getting a lot of push back even
with that and it's a free
tree
so yeah it's planted they don't even
have to do anything but say yeah I would
like to have a tree and people still
don't still don't want
them so I so one piece of bring it with
you I I asked Sheila the last time if as
a she could share with us how um how how
this turn over um what percentage
turnover I go five years so
my guess is five years so the Aver home
selling every 15 years where it used to
be 5 to seven years then 8 to 10 years
mostly because of the interest rates
where you had less than 4% years ago
certainly
not and
or% um just for your information 2024
presented properties that sold in 36
days after hitting the
market um in 23 is 26 days the
differ um the median sale price inex is
464,000
50
meaning for
people live compared to the median sale
price in
2023 which was a year 5 5
34900 um the average hous learning is
127,000 74%
of 98% of people graduate from high
school and thus far as the three days
ago we had
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24 you want to know anything else yeah
anything else check to see um
how the value
inrees trees yes interes you think
between trees andig
trees any other
questions Jim thank you very much you
together helpful pressure way all need
and I'm going to now both mad in the May
here so we um closed our discussion on
the lack of protection at coh Last Time
by many wild ja about how we might
ensure uh replacement dollars for those
treats when they go to Su in years and I
think the term we came up with was esro
fund I just want to know if there's been
any movement or any more thoughts about
how we can make sure that um I
I guess that there's some responsibility
and accountability for the Wess to but
starting with spring time
right uh yeah I mean some some of it you
know I understand the tree protection
hasn't been up as well as it should have
been um or should still be uh but you
know a lot of the digging in the rideway
is part of what has to
happen and yeah I mean we lose
trees I mean even though they you know
look at the the house on North Park View
that did a massive renovation in the
back and they had Alan marber come in
and they air rated the soil they put in
these giant Gravel Road to do the
addition in the back and every one of
those oak trees are dead so I
mean um you can do everything right
you're still going to kill these trees
it's just the construction part of it is
the the the the biggest problem so if
we're going to continue to add on to
Main Street um you know this is GNA
happen for that mayor I would just
suggest that um you know Matt has talked
to them multiple times about since our
conversations just about true protection
but to your point like if the damage has
already been done even if they did
everything right they didn't yeah in
this instance they did not do everything
right um and the
requirements were part of their permit
package in the first place so I think
that fire prior to providing final
occupancy we could um request either
escro funds for the trees or uh a
donation to trees for Bexley either one
at the appropriate I don't know what the
caliber inches are they're about 10 to
12 inches and times two yeah so that
would be like4
$2500 was that is it like $100 per C
well it was but in reviewing I think I
mentioned the city of colomes now they
$200 an inch but but that is in their
ordinances so it's a little bit easier I
mean to be quite honest this would be
sort of an arbitrary request in the
first place but I would imagine that um
knowing the ownership a little bit and
understanding of Civic mindedness I
think they might be willing to to go
along with that and uh I think it's very
reasonable to
request Esra at the minimum and I think
they would maybe voluntarily just
contribute those funds so we can
ask but good
Le okay and then um I did want to just
mention that we had a joint meeting of
the ARB s ex publiction a couple weeks
ago
and um started to look at potential
topics for all of us um we're still I'd
say still getting um our footing on
interacting with each other and um and
finding Shar topics I made great strides
I so um one of the new ways that the
this meeting
is that
everys will be in
charge
arit
Mar just you know keep Ming forward and
see makes good
sense we enjoy each
other mayor we come back to your meeting
right to your report right now because
it's a good break in the action
I'm here to talk about other about who
other oh other yeah
well it's a catch all word is good so
um our budget pass which is good
includes Landmark amount of funding for
tree
planting um as well as uh support for
the commercial design guidelines process
which we hope to kick off in the spring
of of this once the strategy gets
wrapped up um so mayor when you say
funds for that is that for
professional salty company um it's for
facilitator probably um as opposed to
like a you know somebody going to do
everything bus
suspenders um okay how currently
budgeted that I mean there is a little
bit of room to expand beyond that if we
need to but that's sort of Envision as a
facilitated process as opposed to
somebody recreating it entirely like
mksk did the entire
doc so we're going to see Landing
strategy is being done in house um with
a facilitated model similar uh
Jeffrey the Jeffrey master plan was kind
of supposed to be like that although omm
did more work than I think we'd
initially scoped out for that so thanks
hm um but yeah we we yeah we'll see as
we as we the process
give
um we planted a lot of trees this fall
but I think you covered that the uh
holiday Olive Tree is doing very well
out in the
foyer
tree the $4 fiddle fig from Trader Joe's
is hilarious that thing is columnar
fiddle fig I don't I don't really know
where that came from but I bought it it
was this t take
bring just keeps growing um in Arboretum
news we took delivery of our own laser
which we are now able to
engrave tree plaques and shrub plaques
to our hearts
content and so I was a little bit
delayed because I was in my office
making you guys a little Christmas
present um I have some Bexley Arboretum
tree
ornaments to pass around Grant I'll make
you one I only have
enough this is day one of learning how
to use this thing so it's uh but it also
it also Burns and cuts wood which is
kind of fun I can smell it yeah it's
fresh I think I smell of it
yeah so this engraves ianes Steeles I
mean it
engraves St watermel SC water bottles
rubber like you can make stamps with
rubber it's crazy what it does we
purchased it just for the tree plaqu but
Emily perfect quickly ascertained all
the other things we could do as our
resident maker you like that love it set
a merch outside I mean watch out
like we can sell these inm March at the
festival oh can we sell stuff sure what
I haven't told Grant yet is that it can
cut up
to7 Ines of solid wood oh nice so you
could go crazy with this
thing with our collection of beex hard
be careful with not burn the city hall
down I know there's a fire extinguisher
right next supposed to leave it
unattended oh
yeah you need to pick a I Jo
the because you're not the
service
ccle what's that this work forville just
kind of artwork oh yeah I mean I with
those 10y old girls I should be careful
we should probably be careful saying all
the things you can do with it because
then we don't have bandwidth for it all
but yeah it's pretty it's a pretty
interesting machine it's
um it's neat um the uh landscape uh
design consultant staff consultant we
have interviewed three we have our
fourth interview this week and then Matt
and I are going to circle back to your
chair and just say where we're at
or you know deciding next steps and
potentially making an offer we have
some
promising and I'm happy to answer your
questions is that thing running right
now or is that you hopefully it's not
running we have a problem it's
running
become Sky okay so any questions for the
mayor we could ask if um the birch trees
are going to be replaced down the Birch
block or if we're going to use those for
Christmas deor Burns we will be burning
them there's a really nice Beaver Dam
further down there a lot of bir with a
lot of birch yeah is there yeah that's
what that's what has killed those so how
many T you think are down there just
one they're very territorial so you're
not gonna have more than one in an
area but we will be
replacing put
around yeah I mean you gotta get rid of
the Bieber I'm G say like we would have
to keep a fence around it forever so
it's like
protection for we're gonna what we doing
is we're also planting some other
Birches closer to the den and putting
smeared peanut butter on
those
training other question besides Beaver
question for the
mayor okay anything any update you want
sure about cassid and fif Avenue
anything on the Gant chart um I know
that I mean nothing has changed much
since our last meetings the timing
everything the c fit they did they've
gone to bid I know
that
the sounds like it's going to be coming
up in a couple of months the Columbus
side starts Columbia G has been doing
some work up there
um but I don't have any explic updates
other than we have I mean we do have
some continuing engineering work on our
side to figure out um some options that
we have for Cassidy um parking and
Alignment uh north of Maryland to see if
we can start to duvail you know more
into their plans facilitate better
on which would require reimagination to
the Tre on at least on one side of it
so but that's too early to really know
good too early to get any feathers
ruffled or or more appropriately get
people
excited what's that
Tre the cherries no the
El we we've replaced those well because
the last time the street was redone they
the
street madonian
all that construction is
all
coming there are two buildings coming
down the one is the
auto repair that's been closed on the
north east side and the southwest side
that warehouse
is all the windows are
oh yeah I'm sorry that's right
apartment's just behind that bom that's
right that's
the um it's it's widen in the street
because the the trucks turn onto the
sidewalk and so because there's like
that large facility they're making it so
that the trucks can do make a turning
motion there be dedicated right J linee
because right now they not U so there's
a wiing indry occurring which was
controversial there residents in the
area that didn't want to widen because
of you know pedestrian friendliness but
I think on the joint flip side of it
there will be sidewalks and tree Lawns
and so The Pedestrian friendliness
overall Prett enh for the project we
have a lot
ofre
tra and now being more
accessible I just think there just
traffic I think there is we're finding
more traffic and actually we've studied
the capacity and Drexel and there's not
we're not seeing a change in like
there's not a downward trend of Drexel
or an upward Trend in Cassidy but there
seems to and we're still doing more
studies to confirm that um it so it does
seem like Drex Drexel has not resulted
in rerouting of traffic there's the same
sort of volume occurring on Drexel but
at the same time there is a you know
there's an uptick in commuter traffic
for sure as people return to work um we
had a huge law um over the you know 22
2001 20002 time period and we're seeing
a very different traffic pattern here at
this L um in the past year not due to
the construction it's due to it just
change in the way that vehicles are to
su's point moving and so we are having
to adjust traffic signals and and you
know studying additional if there are
needs for slowing or calming traffic and
i' I've noticed that like driver
Behavior this is really hard to quantify
is more distracted we we're seeing more
pedestrian cyclist hits throughout the
country Bexley hasn't been immune to
that more distracting but also just like
you know you talked about getting out of
your
driveway it's really hard to get out of
your driveway people aren't stop
stopping to let people out of their
driveways this just seems like there's
just an overall rudness of
driving so I think you compound all
those things when you're on a business
Street it's feel it yeah uh different
subject do we know yet since um Linkus
pass um what whether it's going to have
an impact on our
medians um yeah so uh it will have an
impact on our medians there's a med the
Linka station is currently proposed at
Pleasant Ridge in Main Street where
there's a median in front of Christ
Lutheran Church so there would be still
be a meeting there but there would be a
loss of trees there
um we're also looking as part of that uh
and Sheila I need you to close your ears
for a second not get too flustered as I
this concept of extending the median to
be continuous to uh Drexel so that it
would shut off it would shut off turn
motion from Maine into the current cold
wall Banker building um which also has
access obviously
off yeah but it would really it would
really enhance that median interface um
and we think there's just a fairly low
volume of use in that curve Cod so
that's a proposal to even out the trees
in fact we would pick up extra trees um
I think we'd be net positive we're also
looking at some interesting we have to
talk to cap about this but Landscaping
options for the
South West Corner that's you know has
some dilapitated brick walls and
plantings that uge refresh this
uh so I think there's some really
interesting concepts for increasing you
know canopy and and green space in
conjunction with uh the station which
will obviously lose trees right where
it's at and I assume Kota has complete
control over the design of the station
is they they sort of have a common
blueprint or do we will the city have
any ability to push back and make it
look a little bit more unique to that c
yeah I mean kod does doesn't have the
power to like force anything um so we do
need to you know we we we do need to
approve it
um right now they're looking for
uniformity throughout the region um so
if we were to insist upon a unique
treatment that would
be a calculus that we would have to
enter into thoughtfully I
think we're thoughtful yeah well we are
and sometimes we're good at calculus
yeah
mine as we build more mediums BL people
be able to turn left into a business or
whatever are you thinking that we might
be needing more permission for
urns so one of the reasons that
we uh with link us one of the reasons
that we have mixed traffic on Main
Street as opposed to that dedicated bus
Landing can happen in some of the other
contexts it's because our rideway is not
wide enough to accommodate
u-turns um and so even if we were to
have give up have to have given up to
have given up the parking we can't get
that U-turn it's
necessary other areas where there's
dedicated bus traffic there will be a
continuous medium all the way down the
street and it will cut off all of the
left turns into not just businesses but
into smaller side street so for example
if we had had that dedicated Bus Line in
in Bexley you know grandon Vernon uh
Chelsea a whole slew of streets would
not have had Turnin motions you would
have had to go to a place where there's
a light or a U-turn but we don't have
enough space for a U-turn so um the
rideway is narrower not just narrow it
is narrow on Main Street in the backi
portion compared to east and west of us
but also we have buildings that are
built closer to the street so we don't
have the same options of like widening
that ride of w even if we wanted to do
that so long story short uh no uh we're
not going to have any urn
have we but we're not like with the
exception of the Christ Lutheran parking
lot and potentially the building that
has the out in Coldwell we haven't cut
off any L and turns medians don't do
that um we would have a lot nicer
medians if we could if we did shut off
more left an turns but we've chosen not
to do that in general um you know this
this is being discussed because it there
there are reasons to not have that El ch
turn in front of the what is that
address I don't even 2288 2288 uh
because of the bus approaching the
median so there's reasons not to have it
um and that that particular property has
alternate access it doesn't that's not
the only access has so in general we're
not shutting off
access thank you
question Main Street so close it down
for the and other activities
no no change in that no so we still have
I mean we still have sovereignty over
our street it's uh we are subject to
some some restrictions because it's a US
route or state route and US Route um
but Kota needs their our permission to
operate they need our permission to do
everything we're talking about they
currently operate on our street when we
shut down the street we let them know
and they
reroute um I don't know what it would
look like for bus Rapid Transit when we
shut it down that's a good question
that's something for us to find out
about
everybody that's right I mean it is some
of those buses are longer so I'm not
sure quite how well reing works in those
situation but I know I mean it's we're
not the only city that has you know
closes down the street for events like
that happens all over the place I just
question I'm near St Al there's um
yellow is that come medium no no it was
go it was supposed to have been a medium
and and when we were installing them we
felt that that intersection was just too
tight and was going to be dangerous so
we chose not to do it um so the yellow
dotting is because at that section
Drexel actually jogs a little bit to the
East and so it's like orienting people
visually that that change is occurring
so that they don't run into the media so
that Grant doesn't have to keep PL
so I could saely sa just foring
sa and there was only little fun trivia
about the medians on Drexel there was
only one change that we made after
having installed everything we removed a
little teeny bump out right in front of
St Alin because it was just it didn't do
anything and it was you know problematic
so okay all right mayor than thank you
very much one more thing one more thing
because we're talking about link us and
this is related you know we received we
had three projects that we asked for as
part of the transit supported
infrastructure that link us funded I
think I've told you guys before but I
want to reiterate it um one was the
local match for our Livingston navity
joint project it's like $1.6 million so
Backle has no cost currently Livingston
Avage joint project which is huge it's
$5 million project we probably any sort
of additional RightWay acquisition we
will pick up so we probably will see
some cost but right now it's really good
this the other one is a com Corridor
project where hoping to bring trees and
other kind of
cming mechanisms to the cassingham and
Remington route that ties mantras
gingham and Maryland together um
including what are called tabletop
intersections near the schools and near
the schools what that would be is like
raising the intersection up at those
like say for
example um Elm and cassingham so that
when you know primary Crossings for
students students are elevated a little
higher
it almost functions as a huge speed
table on that intersection um we would
be looking for something similar at
Maryland and
cassingham
and not sure that montress makes any
sense because of just the way that Main
Street is right there but I'm looking at
tabletop intersections and some other
traffic comps that's part of the lest
funding for transort inter and finally
the Main Street bridge at Alan Creek is
a terrible bridge to walk on and so it
has uh funding to provide for some
better pedestrian bike interface on that
bridge and preliminarily talking to that
fron engineer looks like you can
potentially narrow the travel Lanes on
the bridge to the same width that we
main streetus is wider than we are and
there's an extra Lane on that bridge so
it could be narrowed and you could have
a much wider sidewalk potentially
protected at least on one side um so
bikes and exper have a better interface
so that's part of the fin any discussion
about putting the bike Lanes on that
bridge would love to do that but that's
not part of the funding it's not part of
the funding is um you
know you one of your early exhortations
to me when I became mayor was to stay on
top of this bridge yes and I've actually
become quite about this bridge and I'll
tell you there's not a there's not a
world in which it's like slated for any
sort of replacement anytime soon is that
too bad uh it is uh there are some
options potentially to Route the bike
path without replacing the bridge and so
that's one of the things we're looking
into to
I wouldn't be super optimistic about it
okay but it's not
impossible so um as many of you know the
sidewalks are so narrow on that bridge
no one likes to use the bridge and
therefore the beautiful Pump House Park
that was
uhti has been in my opinion
underused and sot
okay the church to the south of the park
is also good to let
us work with them to make the parking
available like during non-church hours
for people to use P House Park we've
just never like gone through the
exercise of getting Columbus toe to an
additional path which they would need to
do and certainly something we
can will there be a
dedicated on Broad Street
also um in a in a distant future
potentially there would be
a potentially
dedicated yeah that would be
concerned so that's part of the equation
now Columbus is dedicated B bike
Lanes Broad Street is essentially a six
Lane Road where they're doing their
dedicated bike lane studies so it's
substantially wider than it is Bexley so
we can't replicate that beex
yeah
bummer well we've got more trees then
right we have more trees okay all right
let and less right away
too thank you okay so let's go on to new
business and this time of year we
usually do our P misses you know two
three or four things that you're excited
about um two four things that we can
work on doing better two three or four
things that never want to begin with so
I would say some of our real hits for
the year we're getting car
commission we're appreciative of Matt
joining the city's employee poor because
he bringing new ideas new computer
skills broader Vision I think to the
city certainly to Theiss we're grateful
for that thanks yeah that's that's
excited to
see but finalist for the landscap decide
on process um I would say this has been
a great year for Grant I hope he feels
that way 200 trees planted in the
bounding
yeah a great partnership with Community
Foundation you know
$40,000
great um any other hits that feel that
we have this year may get bra oh you
know all the new additions to the
parks and new additions to your staff
right yes and the
staff last
mayor one of the
SE correct
okay so um I'm excited about the
potential for the joint um commission
and city meetings don't think we had our
yet but wether
were three meetings
go um Jim do you have anything you'd
like to add um well I'm I I'm excited
about this group that uh council
president L Key's put together to talk
about clarifying the right of way and
forward to working with the the three
council members um on that and I think
it'll be good for all of us to have
Clarity around that and clarify most
importantly what our values are um for
you know that part of our city um I
think
um
the already done mea on the progress on
the uh planning and maintenance plan but
we will we've at least made some us and
Susan was right about how long it would
take so we will we will get there in
2025 I think one of the big hits this
year all the activties on Arbor Day I
think for many of those um and was great
planning of
manable super
fun had a great
year and tree giveaway was a little bit
um let's say but we say a little bit off
the rails this year but Grant and I are
committed to finding way to get that
done that works for Grant works for the
city I should report B in my other half
that the library board regular here is
that the programs at the library related
are as successful as
any that well that's good thank you so
and and with that um Grant can you go to
the that Mary sent on that January
program so Mary's four programs for
January February March and April the
first program is is called buying back
the land for the sake of the community
and it's a story about buying land in
appala and know a
about they moved into West Virginia as
well and people are going to come and
talk about the you know to be the wild
by and that's going to
be in person and
also and then she has three more three
more programs coming this is the one in
February this is the story about
the site so that also be streaming and
live no cost for any these programs
we our calendar um the one the one I
don't want to say Miss but the one um
activity we did for ARB that has caused
us to rethink the presentation of that
is the AR Day and birthday festival and
um I believe that the events celebration
has agreed to integrate that into The
Jeffy Woods Festival this year so
there's more opportunity
for big equipment to be on S R cherry
picker clim
Tre watch gr C the wood make honestly
make wood
caring and there's a I think right thing
I think we've talked about that in the
past I don't know how
Insurance enjoys I was suggest that you
talk to
C um mayor I wasn't in on that meeting
so I'm not sure about the full bread of
activities because I think it was s
events of Celebration side yeah it it
was a very cursory discussion okay um
where I don't think I think the feedback
that I heard was that we're totally
receptive to it want to hear a little
bit more about like you know how we can
work on Cross programming and if there's
you know what does Earth Day itself look
like what does Arbor Day itself look
like then in April those are just
questions I
so but Hey Jeffrey Woods Festival is the
best
Festival as long as the magic of the
Jeffrey Woods Festival doesn't diluted
then we're all for
it en what I mean by that is don't make
my made Ser
station
right too
much thank you I know you have to Barb
was kind enough bring a thank you gift
to our vice chair and it looks like it
has something to do with
C thank
you it may be out here next year in in
the holiday festival oh yeah do I hold
this in trust for the city or
thank
you um how do you think we all been Rie
applications this year last tape
applications May
last
investigate
standardized methodical approach to
questions that we ask so Karen was going
to email me the questions that or the
attachment they put on but I haven't
received that yet
that well I haven't seen anything from
Karen okay I'll just put that question
want to see
what anything you'd like to see us do
that we're not
doing any ways you want to participate
that you're not
being asked to
partipate there was some discussion at
the end but there was a lot going on
about discussing the additional tree
species that
we approve to be able to choose from
when is that discussion happening is on
when we bring back the planning and
maintenance plan early next
year um good question
uh anything
else
no uh there was how can we improve
our
cookies the Oreos are missing yeah they
are missing you're right you're
absolutely right I think it was self
conservation
yeah Charlie be interested in since you
probably attend a lot of meetings always
interested in the way those meetings are
conducted in topics that are maybe state
or national interest that we should at
least have some sort of sense
of talk about know may species that are
being
selected that tutorial or is that a 10
minute
or we could just EMB
it I mean I think I think people would
like to hear you know like species just
begin with that think because there's so
many people that say well what are you
going to PL what you yeah but I mean
that's like coming from like
a Horticultural perspective or a natural
you know I mean I
think toes just selections samees
so I mean I think there's a lot of
things there I think it just kind of
relates to
theion any follow questions with that
no well but going back to Applications I
will say that I think the fact that we
haven't spent as much time this year on
applications as we did the year before
has been a bless yes I mean otherwise
out of discussions I m just on that and
I'm sure that the next person will help
this streamline the application
process Greatful that Matt did you have
anything you wanted to
ask no I'm just excited to get our
landscape consultant on board we have we
have four really good candidates and um
hope to have a decision by know before
the first of the year and have ready to
roll for 2025 so thank you for all you
all you do and um please let me know if
I maybe of assistance to yeah man
answers emails what up don't
don't
be yeah right well I know we better talk
about that so if there's nothing else to
come before this beautiful wonderful
body I would just like to make a comment
up in my grude of bringing the pots back
pots look better than ever this year um
and so many people have come so thank
you for I want and I think the lights on
the medians on Main Street look terrific
they got them done before the rains and
yeah I knew I had a question for you how
long before the trees on D can withstand
the weight of Lights seven and a half
years oh you made that up when
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you
here wait option it's an
option Figured You
Out alternative timeline they do it next
year no I don't think they they need at
least two years to get really good and
established in the root the root base um
and we'd have to run electricity out
there which is not going to be that that
won't be
cheap we like those projects think been
up to a little company plug here the
Donald's AR
wonders this year I encourage go all the
reservations and this weekend the last
weekend but um something there obviously
we PR help not that we're not doing that
here but um versus having a lot of
lights in the trees we UPL the trees
which kind of lends a different feel to
the atmosphere it focuses more on like
the tree itself and the structure of the
tree the haveit of the tree um like that
could be something that we do that's
much less
right yeah we did we did that first on
Main Street and it just but we might
have different lights and maybe we we
need to do more of a study on what best
lights and the filament that we put on
the lights might not have been the
appropriate uh disc to do that with but
yeah I mean
look yeah I think Drexel the uplights
look amazing on Drexel as they do and
there is electric on drexal I don't know
why I said that but
well there's no irrigation there's no
irrigation on
Drexel it's not
lining there's no Outlet
right all right let's not go there okay
well if there's nothing more to come
before the good of the order we'll say
happy holidays see you on January 15 the
thir Wednesday o' third Wednesday third
Wednesday
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